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shafiru
Profile Joined January 2009
111 Posts
March 04 2009 04:11 GMT
#61
This can be very useful C+ and above
bengaliToss ftw...
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 04 2009 04:20 GMT
#62
I'm mulling over some possibilities with regards to redtoothing your Spawning Pool in ZvZ to feign a 12pool when you really did a 9pool; it would require your opponent to not count your Drones but I'm sure every once in a while they wont notice that 2-3 are missing and will drone too hard to fight off your initial Zerglings.
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StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
March 04 2009 04:24 GMT
#63
rofl @ accidentally killing your own spire

Op might wanna emphasize against this mistake. Spire gets built really slowly cuz it has low HP and large build time, so it's totally possible to kill your own spire. LOL. watch out
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
iratepornstar
Profile Joined January 2009
United States27 Posts
March 04 2009 04:25 GMT
#64
On March 04 2009 12:48 onihunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2009 12:34 ZidaneTribal wrote:
seems like could work on a lower level, but im sure pros know exactly when to scan to see the spire finish


Agreed. This won't work at D or at pro level, but in between...there's potential.

This is such a sick idea.


This idea is more viable at the pro level than any other IMO.

The only level I don't see this ever working at is mine (D)
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 04 2009 04:26 GMT
#65
On March 04 2009 13:24 StRyKeR wrote:
rofl @ accidentally killing your own spire

Op might wanna emphasize against this mistake. Spire gets built really slowly cuz it has low HP and large build time, so it's totally possible to kill your own spire. LOL. watch out

if you're at the level where you might accidentally kill your own spire while intentionally lowering its hp, you are not at the level where doing this trick is relevant to your play
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
March 04 2009 04:34 GMT
#66
Honestly, when I first saw that you were going to name something after yourself, I was getting ready to flame away, but I actually read the OP and it's a very ingenious idea.

I fully support redtoothing
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 04 2009 04:37 GMT
#67
lol
thats cute
wont work vs koreans though, half of them dont even bother getting scanners till 50 if they see you open 3 hatch, they just know the muta timing.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 02:49:36
March 04 2009 04:41 GMT
#68
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 02:49:39
March 04 2009 04:43 GMT
#69
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
iratepornstar
Profile Joined January 2009
United States27 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-04 04:53:48
March 04 2009 04:50 GMT
#70
On March 04 2009 13:37 IdrA wrote:
lol
thats cute
wont work vs koreans though, half of them dont even bother getting scanners till 50 if they see you open 3 hatch, they just know the muta timing.



What about the other half? Honestly, if it works once out of 50 times it's worth it, and as Chill said there's no reason not to.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
March 04 2009 04:55 GMT
#71
Hmm...this is actually pretty neat. I love little tricks like these that screw around with your opponent's mind.
this is my quote.
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-04 05:51:02
March 04 2009 04:56 GMT
#72
never mind

redtooth is weird
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iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
March 04 2009 05:03 GMT
#73
On March 04 2009 13:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2009 13:24 StRyKeR wrote:
rofl @ accidentally killing your own spire

Op might wanna emphasize against this mistake. Spire gets built really slowly cuz it has low HP and large build time, so it's totally possible to kill your own spire. LOL. watch out

if you're at the level where you might accidentally kill your own spire while intentionally lowering its hp, you are not at the level where doing this trick is relevant to your play


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=25706
#5
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 02:47:03
March 04 2009 05:03 GMT
#74
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
March 04 2009 05:08 GMT
#75
redtooth, hats off to you for actually theorycrafting something legitimate. Everyone else has something to learn from your ingenuity.

Also, to the skeptics, find me a Terran who can successfully break Zerg's natural while mutalisks are out.
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 04 2009 05:10 GMT
#76
Wow that is so great. I'm so gonna have to try using that!
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 04 2009 05:15 GMT
#77
Pretty sweet idea, and like Chill said there is really no reason not to do it. If you get caught by the scan then oh well no loss, but if you don't you could have earned valuable seconds before the first turrets go up.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
March 04 2009 05:16 GMT
#78
LOL i'm gonna go try this in iccup right now
Pain is temporary, but glory is forever.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
March 04 2009 05:17 GMT
#79
i love how you named it after yourself
this thread made me smile

i'm a redtooth fan
conCentrate9
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States438 Posts
March 04 2009 05:25 GMT
#80
Post your replays if you do try this, guys.
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