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Heed these two simple warnings. It will help make our GD a better place.

Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

Thanks.
Neo, 31.01.12
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
February 03 2012 00:59 GMT
#721
guys guys djwheat is so cute when playing lol.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 03 2012 01:02 GMT
#722
On February 03 2012 09:58 bosiddon wrote:
did loco's interview (http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=122786&db=issue) ever get translated


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308013&currentpage=24#466

That is the best you're going to get sadly
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 03 2012 01:02 GMT
#723
Is DJWheat playing with Dyrus? Awesome.
It's your boy Guzma!
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 03 2012 01:06 GMT
#724
shit, someone quote my last post so it shows up on this page. i can't do it myself or i'll look vain.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 01:10:19
February 03 2012 01:09 GMT
#725
On February 03 2012 09:59 clickrush wrote:
guys guys djwheat is so cute when playing lol.

Not trying to be mean here but DJWheat is learning so much faster than Destiny o.O


On February 03 2012 09:54 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


*giggles*

WOW dude penta with sona! that's amazing!!!
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 03 2012 01:14 GMT
#726
oh thank you Shikyo, what a genuine and flattering compliment
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 01:20:43
February 03 2012 01:14 GMT
#727
We don't have a thread for killing spree this week ^_^
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308568
Not as cool as Moonbear, but I will make it better as I can.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#728
LOL nice job fakesteve to pro
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
February 03 2012 01:29 GMT
#729
On February 03 2012 09:54 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


*giggles*


My hero <3
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 01:32:33
February 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#730
On the topic of pentakills, the best penta kill I've ever seen is when we were completely out of position and saw enemy team baroning with CV, and our gangplank ulted there and just got a penta npnp because they were all low from the baron
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 01:38:34
February 03 2012 01:38 GMT
#731
On February 03 2012 10:32 Shikyo wrote:
On the topic of pentakills, the best penta kill I've ever seen is when we were completely out of position and saw enemy team baroning with CV, and our gangplank ulted there and just got a penta npnp because they were all low from the baron


Got a quad on Panth doing this, heaps fun but it was a low rank game and I was something ridiculous like 18-0 at the time (stole Baron too, counts as penta rite?)
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 01:53:58
February 03 2012 01:41 GMT
#732
On February 03 2012 09:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 09:36 Seuss wrote:

I think your opinion is partially due to playstyle. For example, I max E last. One rank is enough for the full duration of the stun, and I use it primarily as a tool for deterring/dealing with anyone who comes after me. The increased damage and reduced cooldown on E are significant, but most of the time you're not going to be able to position yourself to use it on an enemy carry with only 1 rank in W. Thus I max W after Q so I can constantly reposition myself and hit the high priority targets while evading the front line.


don't you feel so powerless though? The difference between 1W and 5W is 25% mpen, which is a very negligible amount of damage. When Xerath came out I did the W max too but both from personal feel and seeing various streamers do it, I changed to E max which just offers more damage. At the end of the day, you're an AP carry, and you need to da stronk damagez.


Not at all. I feel far more powerless with a 12-20 second cooldown on the ability that allows me to hit even well-positioned opponents than I do with a stun that does 200 less damage. Teamfights are fluid and you will need to reposition during them, but with only 1 rank in W you can easily spend the important parts of the fight with a 400 range handicap. Moreover your ability to siege turrets is reduced.

Before you get a Void Staff the difference between rank 1 W and rank 5 is 18% (factoring in the mastery). At, say, 120 MR that's a 6.2% damage increase. So:

200 * (100/(100+120*.81)) = 101 damage
(100/(100+120*.63)) - (100/(100+120*.81)) = .0624
101 / .0624 = 1619 damage

So basically you only need to do 1600 damage with your combo to match rank 5 E. That's pretty trivial considering how much damage your combo does and the fact that you can hit multiple targets.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 02:01:42
February 03 2012 02:00 GMT
#733
Interesting that Riot stole the whole "Power Ranking" from TL.

(Did they steal it or is that used somewhere else as well? I only know it from here.)


http://competitive.euw.leagueoflegends.com/article/eu-power-rankings
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 03 2012 02:05 GMT
#734
Dey tuk our power rank! Maybe.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 03 2012 02:05 GMT
#735
On February 03 2012 11:00 r.Evo wrote:
Interesting that Riot stole the whole "Power Ranking" from TL.

(Did they steal it or is that used somewhere else as well? I only know it from here.)


http://competitive.euw.leagueoflegends.com/article/eu-power-rankings

Zenon actually made a post here asking for our help on this
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
February 03 2012 02:08 GMT
#736
"Power Rank/Ranking" has been a common saying forever.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 03 2012 02:12 GMT
#737
On February 03 2012 11:05 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 11:00 r.Evo wrote:
Interesting that Riot stole the whole "Power Ranking" from TL.

(Did they steal it or is that used somewhere else as well? I only know it from here.)


http://competitive.euw.leagueoflegends.com/article/eu-power-rankings

Zenon actually made a post here asking for our help on this


Oh, I remember.

Our heroic web content writer AverageGatsby is writing one for Europe and asked me for advice. I'm lazy, and misinformed, and also lazy, so I thought I'd try crowdsourcing it.


Dno, content writer asks Riot community dude for help on his topic, community dude asks 3rd party community for advice and gives it to the content writer. Content writer publishes news taking all the credit solo.

Sounds like a bad content writer to me. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
February 03 2012 02:14 GMT
#738
don't really understand why you object to it
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 03 2012 02:18 GMT
#739
On February 03 2012 11:14 UniversalSnip wrote:
don't really understand why you object to it


I saw "POWER RANKING on the Riot frontpage, I panicked and drew my e-sword to defend the honour of TL! =(
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 03 2012 02:21 GMT
#740
I dun get how aAa goes to an event and gets smashed yet is ahead of Mistral and SK, both teams who have actually looked, ya know, good lately.

(mistral better than sk obvi)
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