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Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
January 31 2012 21:17 GMT
#461
so there seems to be some team work going on between some of the players here.
The pattern that emerged that i picked up on, is that there are several players who lay low for a while, and then come out of inactivity and become very aggressive using the same logic that other players have attempted to use.

For example zarepath, and zelblade seem to have very apperant cohesion going on yet instead of pointing that out, you jump to the conclusion that is by far more difficult to jump to, and that is that we are busing one another.

adam laid the frame work for their aggression on me, which was quickly picked up by zelblade and zarepath, and zarepath as we all know is confirmed mafia

now i dont think adam is mafia, he initiated the attack, which is fine, what i am more concerned about are those that just hoped on board, zelbade, zarepath and later doyouhas. Adam would later retract his statements that i am mafia due to the answers that i provided in response to his attacks were not what he had expected from a mafia. The others never retracted their statements even after zarepaths mafia flip made it impossible to label me mafia if it were not for us busing one another, which is impossible to prove

after the fall of zarepath, adam would go on to claim that he no longer feels i am mafia and removes his suspicion of me, and then places it on zelblade and balt11t, balt as we know would later be shot and flip mafia, and if adam were mafia he wouldnt abandon his case on me to turn his attention to balt

Now i believe zelblade is mafia, in his attacks on me he is his very defensive and critical of my attacks on zarepath, his analysis felt far more emotional then logical, Capitalized bold letters, double question marks, the use of logic that isnt logical, and this omggg how could you think that defense
Also just the very notion that you furiously defended someone that fliped red insta makes you a prime suspect. Then on top of that after zarepath was proven mafia you acted like you were all on board with it


+ Show Spoiler +
On January 28 2012 17:33 zelblade wrote:
On another note, looking through SS's filter this post of zarepath's which he quoted really jumps out to me.

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 10:58 zarepath wrote:
Also: feel free to investigate me at night, if there's a DT (which I highly suspect to be the case, considering the numbers). It will be a waste of an investigation, but with numerous lurkers not being pressured, multiple suspicious people not being followed up on, we're going to waste too much time and attention on me without a confirmation.


What i think is wierd is the "feel free to investigate me at night part". Why would he want a DT to check him, when he himself even admits that "it will be a waste of an investigation"? I dont think that town would ever request a DT to check him unless there was a high chance that he was going to be lynched the next day, as doing so would use an action which could be better used on a scummy player to try and weed out scum. Finding scum is definately more important, IMO, than confirming 1 townie.

As such, this causes me to agree with DoYouHas that perhaps zerpath is indeed the godfather fishing for DT checks, enabling himself to get the status of "confirmed town", whilst wasting a DT check at the same time.

Also the way that SS attacks zarepath makes me feel that they probably arent on the same team. I mean, if they were both mafia, why attack each other that way at that time?

I would still prefer lynching SS at this point in time, unless he starts stepping up or a better case on zarepath convinces me that he is indeed mafia.


notice how he says

I would still prefer lynching SS at this point in time, unless he starts stepping up or a better case on zarepath convinces me that he is indeed mafia

he was mafia but that didnt seem to change your mind

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On January 30 2012 13:12 zelblade wrote:
Nice lynch :D

Since it seems that most of us were on zarepath, I guess that the mafia probably have little to no thread presence. Suggest we take a hard look at the lurkers for the next lynch.

As stated earlier I need to go now and will be away from the thread for quite a while.


ja hahah, except you! You were the one defending him

tldr
adam
zelblade
zelblade seems scared, look how he gave himself away with his aggression on me and his defense of his buddy zarepath

also be careful zelblade, you kill me and i flip green, which i will, you are dead the very next day
vote: zelbalde
What do you mean you heard me during the night, these are quiet pants!
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
January 31 2012 21:23 GMT
#462
On February 01 2012 05:30 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +

He says that my case against zarepath day2 convinced him of how manipulated he was day1, but by whom? Certainly not zelblade who barely posted anything. The only real answer is zarepath. So then why is Simberto holding his vote on zelblade as the 'fishier' candidate instead of moving onto zarepath? Or is this 'the devil made me do it' defense something that has only come up after my analysis of Simberto because this supposed manipulation has not informed any of his day2 decisions?


The answer to your rhetoric question is obviously zarepath. I was holding my vote on zelblade because there was no lack of votes on zarepath and i could switch my vote at any point (i even stated that i would switch to zarepath lynch if zelblade does not work in this post.) Also in that post i mention that i want to avoid falling in the same traps that i did on day 1, so this is not something that i just made up after the accusations today. I find it strange that you missed that after you apparently read my filter pretty exactly, i fear that you are falling into a confirmation bias trap at the moment.

The 'traps' you mention in that post is pretty clearly just confirmation bias, not the belief that you were being manipulated by mafia. SO, let me put this clearly. You state that I presented a strong case against zarepath, your own logic made it stronger, you found more inconsistencies in zarepath's posting than even I pointed out, AND apparently you were convinced that zarepath had manipulated you into anti-town action day1. How does this possibly fit with your actions day2? You don't bring up this manipulation theory, you don't add your own analysis to mine, and you don't switch your vote to someone who, by your own reasoning, is far more likely to be mafia than zelblade.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11460 Posts
January 31 2012 21:59 GMT
#463
On February 01 2012 06:23 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 05:30 Simberto wrote:

He says that my case against zarepath day2 convinced him of how manipulated he was day1, but by whom? Certainly not zelblade who barely posted anything. The only real answer is zarepath. So then why is Simberto holding his vote on zelblade as the 'fishier' candidate instead of moving onto zarepath? Or is this 'the devil made me do it' defense something that has only come up after my analysis of Simberto because this supposed manipulation has not informed any of his day2 decisions?


The answer to your rhetoric question is obviously zarepath. I was holding my vote on zelblade because there was no lack of votes on zarepath and i could switch my vote at any point (i even stated that i would switch to zarepath lynch if zelblade does not work in this post.) Also in that post i mention that i want to avoid falling in the same traps that i did on day 1, so this is not something that i just made up after the accusations today. I find it strange that you missed that after you apparently read my filter pretty exactly, i fear that you are falling into a confirmation bias trap at the moment.

The 'traps' you mention in that post is pretty clearly just confirmation bias, not the belief that you were being manipulated by mafia. SO, let me put this clearly. You state that I presented a strong case against zarepath, your own logic made it stronger, you found more inconsistencies in zarepath's posting than even I pointed out, AND apparently you were convinced that zarepath had manipulated you into anti-town action day1. How does this possibly fit with your actions day2? You don't bring up this manipulation theory, you don't add your own analysis to mine, and you don't switch your vote to someone who, by your own reasoning, is far more likely to be mafia than zelblade.


You are turning my words aroung in my mouth.

You presented a strong case against zarepath, my own logic made it stronger UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT ZELBLADE IS RED, and yes, i found more small breadcrumbs in his posts, like for example that baby thing that just made no sense at all I am just not convinced that adding up small breadcrumbs is a good way to find mafia, because you can do that against anyone. For example, i could easily find lots of small stuff against MidnightGladius who we now know is town.
Thus, adding more of that stuff would have turned an objective investigation into a witchhunt, which is really not something we as town want.

I was convinced that IF YOU ARE RIGHT, i was manipulated to lead the lynches during day 1. However, i still thought that the best way to test this was to lynch zelblade. The only thing my reasoning showed was that there is some cohesion between zarepath and zelblade, and zelblade already looked very scummy day 1, so i stated that i would rather lynch him then zarepath, and, more importantly, that i did not want to lynch someone based on someone else telling me to do so, rather then the person i myself thought of as the most scummy, since that was obviously something very wrong in my day1 play. Someone tells me someone else is fishy, i look at their filter and get confirmation bias. This was something i obviously wanted to avoid.

Also, i stated very clearly that i would not block a zarepath vote, but prefer one on zelblade. Thus, there was no need to change my vote at that point in time, my intention to vote was absolutely clear. I would vote upon whomever we can get a lynch on between zarepath and zelblade. The timing of that post was also just there because that happened to be when i got around to playing the game, even though you will probably use that as a reason that i am mafia anyways.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11460 Posts
January 31 2012 22:03 GMT
#464
Anyways, i am going to bed now. I hope that you guys look at this objectively and realise that i am not mafia instead of pushing each other higher and higher on this throughout the night.

Also, i am now posting my vote against Chocolate in line with my above reasoning, which i wanted to avoid since it will surely be turned against me as a distraction or something of the sorts.

##vote Chocolate
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
January 31 2012 22:09 GMT
#465
On January 31 2012 19:21 zelblade wrote:
Also one thing that I feel is wierd:

Show nested quote +
Simberto
Just one thing i wanted to say: DoYouHas claiming having been shot at does not make him 100% town, even without a counterclaim. It could be a mafia ploy to get someone 100% trusted by not shooting at all. I don't think that this is what happened (it sounds pretty far-fetched), but one should still keep the possibility at the back of ones head.


It seems like he is attempting to be casting doubt onto DYH at this point. I understand this is a minor point, but i feel that it is really wierd.

You're right, it is a minor point but it is possible. I don't think he is casting doubt but just trying to keep everyone with an open mind, since it is possible. I highly doubt mafia would waste a shot like that, and DYH has really good analysis and posts, but still, it is a possibility that i think he wanted to make sure others understand.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
January 31 2012 22:17 GMT
#466
On February 01 2012 01:24 Simberto wrote:
And to avoid this whole thing being to one-sided, i want to point out two significantly non-scummy things i did.

I was the first person to be suspicious of balt11t because of the way he attacked FakePromise, even though i should have followed that through after FakePromise flipped green. At least i hope that some of the suspicion that was on him is a result of that.

I was the first person to accept the day1 case against zarepath. At that point in time there was a very real chance that that case could succeed, and if it had succeeded, me supporting it might have very well been the deciding factor. Sure, it did not succeed, but that is not something i knew at that point in time, when there were still more then 2.5 hours on the clock. I only did change my vote away from zarepath when it became totally clear that there was no chance that we would get a lynch on him.

You are posting what you should have done but in my opinion you aren't posting enough of why you did things in the first place. When you are addressing posts you say what you could have done better, but we aren't interested in that. As they say, hindsight is 20/20. Just tell us why you did things to begin with.

Like this
Well, i don't know what i thought half a week ago. I know that that post does not make any sense, so i must have either simply put in the wrong name by accident, or at that point in time believed it is the right name. Should i make up some bullshit why putting that name there makes sense when it obviously does not?

I'm sure you can give us a more substantial answer than that.
Bromancipate
Profile Joined January 2012
Oman52 Posts
January 31 2012 22:52 GMT
#467
Alrighty, it is morning here in Aus. Time to find some mafia.

Honestly this Simberto thing is a little hard to understand. He is a hard read because some of his defence is logical. I will take a closer look into his posting.

Right now we have a few targets and little direction and it has made it difficult for me to determine who suspects who. So here is my summary of what people think of other's alignment.

People who think

Zelblade is scum
  • Adam4167
  • CosmosXAM
  • Simberto
  • SacredSystem
  • sl0osh?


Simberto is scum
  • Adam4167
  • DoYouHas
  • CosmosXAM
  • sl0osh?
  • Zelblade


SacredSystem is scum
  • Bromancipate
  • Zelblade
  • DoYouHas
  • sl0osh?


Chocolate is scum
  • Adam4167
  • Simberto


DoYouhas is scum
  • SacredSystem


I don't see anyone actively pushing for a sl0osh, Bromancipate, Cosmos or Adam lynch. Please correct me if I am wrong or I am missing something. Our target for this lynch must come from those top three otherwise we risk splitting the vote. This also helps us determine people's motivations for voting.

I will be looking into both Simberto and Chocolate, I don't think zelblade is scum. The problem I have is that a zelblade lynch gives us the most information. I believe SS is scum and a townie zelblade flip would help confirm this in others minds. Simberto has also been pushing a zeblade lynch and is still pushing that wagon, so a zelblade flip would help us with him.

I don't want to lynch a townie so I will not be voting for zelblade. Chocolate is an interesting one but a zelblade, SS or Simberto lynch doesn't really tell us anything about him, nor does a Chocolate lynch tells us much about the others. Yes Sim has recently been pushing a Chocolate lynch but he has been pushing zelblade harder. Like I said I will look into Chocolate's posting but for now a lynch of one of the top three gives us more info.

DoYouHas was only placed under suspicion by SacredSystem(linky) so I won't consider him a candidate.

So I have this conundrum where the one person on the list that looks town to me would give me the most information if he flipped. This is why I want others to make their intentions clear.

In short, please let me know if I am missing some information, or have misread your "reads". sl0osh, you in particular need to make yourself clear.
In Bros we trust
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
January 31 2012 22:54 GMT
#468
On February 01 2012 06:08 Simberto wrote:
Now, this might also sound like picking an easy target given my situation, but of those, I think that Chocolate is almost definitively scum. He did not contribute anything, at all. This can easily checked by reading his filter, which has about the same proportions as that of balt11t now. I won't bother to quote these posts. There are simply almost no posts, and he only posts when he is absolutely forced to. Also, his posts do not contain anything at all. Note that even Adam who started one day and was not active for a long time, too, has more posts then Chocolate, and easily far more content.

Adam is a bit strange due to lack of information, but certainly not someone one should lynch today.



Hang on, whaaaat.

I have 'far more content' then chocolate, but I'm still considered strange due to a lack of information? Isn't that contradicting yourself in the same post?

I think you better take a hard-line opinion on me, or risk being labelled as wishy-washy or vague on top of the mounting case against you.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 31 2012 22:58 GMT
#469
On February 01 2012 06:08 Simberto wrote:
As for my scum reads, upon rereading the thread i noticed that there is some pretty hard lurking going on. Now, this might sound like an easy copout, but it is still true.

Now, this might also sound like picking an easy target given my situation, but of those, I think that Chocolate is almost definitively scum. He did not contribute anything, at all. This can easily checked by reading his filter, which has about the same proportions as that of balt11t now. I won't bother to quote these posts. There are simply almost no posts, and he only posts when he is absolutely forced to. Also, his posts do not contain anything at all. Note that even Adam who started one day and was not active for a long time, too, has more posts then Chocolate, and easily far more content.

I actually think that SacredSystem looks pretty clean at the moment, even though i do not really like his style of posting.

Adam is a bit strange due to lack of information, but certainly not someone one should lynch today.

Bromancipate is not really conclusive due to there being multiple persons behind that name, but i don't think he is mafia at the moment.

I am also still highly suspicious of zelblade, but i am getting to the point where i am asking myself if i am not just tunnelvisioning him. I will take a closer look on that.

Also, i will go to sleep in about an hour, so if you want an answer to any further questions today, please ask them soon, otherwise you will get it tomorrow.

I agree with you on the lurking. I do believe that Chocolate should speak up as we progress into lategame. There are so many things to talk about and really no reason to remain quiet as a town. Right now, being neutral on people's lists is something that warrants inspection.

However, these are things I don't like.
You don't expound on your reasonings on SacredSystem - WHY does he look clean?
And WHY do you think that Adam is strange on lack of info even though you say in the same post that he has content?

On that note I would like Chocolate to comment on his opinions. Day 3 and I'm still not too sure what you actually think.
For instance, what do you think about Simbarto, SacredSystem and Zelblade?
Please be clear in revealing your thoughts (e.g. I think this person is mafia because of this, and this other guy is town because of this etc.)

Beside your small explanations everytime you vote, you don't really have strong reads on anyone, and most of your posts are comments on other people's plays (without reference to what this says about their alignments).

Bromancipate
Profile Joined January 2012
Oman52 Posts
January 31 2012 23:01 GMT
#470
On February 01 2012 07:54 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 06:08 Simberto wrote:
Now, this might also sound like picking an easy target given my situation, but of those, I think that Chocolate is almost definitively scum. He did not contribute anything, at all. This can easily checked by reading his filter, which has about the same proportions as that of balt11t now. I won't bother to quote these posts. There are simply almost no posts, and he only posts when he is absolutely forced to. Also, his posts do not contain anything at all. Note that even Adam who started one day and was not active for a long time, too, has more posts then Chocolate, and easily far more content.

Adam is a bit strange due to lack of information, but certainly not someone one should lynch today.



Hang on, whaaaat.

I have 'far more content' then chocolate, but I'm still considered strange due to a lack of information? Isn't that contradicting yourself in the same post?

I think you better take a hard-line opinion on me, or risk being labelled as wishy-washy or vague on top of the mounting case against you.


Adam, can you please give me your scum reads. From your filter it seems that you have, me (Bromancipate), Zelblade, SacredSystem, Chocolate and Simberto. That's a lot of scum! I drew up the previous list based on my reading of your more recent posts, but I can't be sure if it is correct.

Thanks!
In Bros we trust
Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
January 31 2012 23:33 GMT
#471
i never said doyouhas is scum
What do you mean you heard me during the night, these are quiet pants!
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
January 31 2012 23:34 GMT
#472
On February 01 2012 07:58 slOosh wrote:
I agree with you on the lurking. I do believe that Chocolate should speak up as we progress into lategame. There are so many things to talk about and really no reason to remain quiet as a town. Right now, being neutral on people's lists is something that warrants inspection.

However, these are things I don't like.
You don't expound on your reasonings on SacredSystem - WHY does he look clean?
And WHY do you think that Adam is strange on lack of info even though you say in the same post that he has content?

On that note I would like Chocolate to comment on his opinions. Day 3 and I'm still not too sure what you actually think.
For instance, what do you think about Simbarto, SacredSystem and Zelblade?
Please be clear in revealing your thoughts (e.g. I think this person is mafia because of this, and this other guy is town because of this etc.)

All right let's do this.
Town
Sloosh- Great analysis, very active, driving discussion
DYH- Good analysis, active, claimed being hit w/ no counterclaim
Bromancipate- Kind of on the edge, but has been posting a lot lately w/ good analysis and is driving discussion
Cosmos- started zarepath lynch
Adam- playing well, contributing
Don't know...
SS- very hostile attitude, confusing posts, omgus a lot BUT is active and seems to be trying to do analysis
Zellblade- just generally shady, lurker like myself
Mafia??
Simberto- Now that everyone has pointed out his inconsistencies he seems to me to be a mafia, or at least the best current candidate for a lynch.

If you want any clarification just ask. My don't know list is subject to change especially if others post a good analysis of one of them. If simberto was not a candidate for lynching i would be on SS just because he likes to omgus a lot.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 31 2012 23:36 GMT
#473
Posted while others posted :/

I do not like SacredSystem's style of posting. It is really hard to follow and sometimes gets too aggressive to the point of condescension and disrespectful tone. Perhaps this is null. But also notice how he is always personal in his posts (the prominence of the 2nd person pronoun). He isn't talking to town but talking to people specifically in town. Almost everypost. Dropping the assumption that Zelblade is mafia and the logical framework in which I think a zarepath zelblade sacredsystem balt11t is impossible, I think that SacredSystem is mafia.


With Zelblade, I looked again and tried to forget the apologetic tone on day 1 to be as objective as I can. It is clear that he thinks that SacredSystem is mafia, and has not let go of it from day 2. It isn't a deflection tactic as he isn't redirecting focus on him to SacredSystem when people suspect him. Transparency of posting and intent is town read.
I think Zelblade is slightly town (I am trusting in more experienced players' red such as yours when I drop the apologetic tone of day 1. Doesn't give as much content as I want, but very clearly sets himself against SacredSystem)


I don't like Simberto's WIFOMs and I've been asking him more questions to get a clearer picture of who he is. I don't like how convenient it is that all his mafia-esque actions are explained away by the ingenious mafia puppeteering. Add onto that his response to my "Zarepath typo catch"

On February 01 2012 01:09 Simberto wrote:
I seriously don't know what that is.

I assume that i was thinking about something else related to zarepath at that moment, and thus used the wrong name. I will look at that specific post in context to try to make sense of it.

So far, even though this will probably be called WIFOM even though it is not, why would i do that intentionally if i was mafia? I don't see any way that would make sense at all.

And if it is just a typo, i don't see how it would make me look any more or any less scummy, since i could have made that typo/being distracted if i was mafia just the way i made it now.
On February 01 2012 01:16 Simberto wrote:
Ok, after reading the context, i am even more confused. There is nothing there that could have made me think of zarepath. I think i just always thought that that post pointing out the "to town" was by zarepath, which would also explain why i thought him significantly less scummy than he actually was when rereading his filter, i thought he had contributed stuff, but apparently he did not.
On February 01 2012 01:16 Simberto wrote:
Well, i don't know what i thought half a week ago.
I know that that post does not make any sense, so i must have either simply put in the wrong name by accident, or at that point in time believed it is the right name. Should i make up some bullshit why putting that name there makes sense when it obviously does not?

I honestly thought this was just a typo and wanted to see what he thought, seeing as it can be construed as giving another mafia player credibility (like when Zarepath wanted to claim the original pressure on zelblade).
He gives a WIFOM. Then he says is was an incorrect read on Zarepath. Then he says he doesn't remember.
In the last line he mocks me how stupid it is to make something up to fit the story even though that is exactly what he did.
Right now I think Simbarto is mafia.


I would go for SacredSystem or Simbarto without the need of a Zelblade flip confirmation. Even without a flip, I think there is enough evidence for SacredSystem in the least, if not also Simbarto.
Bromancipate
Profile Joined January 2012
Oman52 Posts
January 31 2012 23:39 GMT
#474
Right, well I will take him off the list then. I read this
now i dont think adam is mafia, he initiated the attack, which is fine, what i am more concerned about are those that just hoped on board, zelbade, zarepath and later doyouhas.


As implying DYH is the same as Zelblade and Zarepath, both of which you think are scum. Who do you think are the remaining mafia?
In Bros we trust
Bromancipate
Profile Joined January 2012
Oman52 Posts
January 31 2012 23:44 GMT
#475
Updated:

People who think

Zelblade is scum
  • Adam4167
  • CosmosXAM
  • Simberto
  • SacredSystem


Simberto is scum
  • Adam4167
  • DoYouHas
  • CosmosXAM
  • sl0osh
  • Zelblade
  • Chocolate


SacredSystem is scum
  • Bromancipate
  • Zelblade
  • DoYouHas
  • sl0osh


Chocolate is scum
  • Adam4167
  • Simberto


Thanks for clarifying sl0osh.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
February 01 2012 00:00 GMT
#476
Bromancipate, while it is true that a zelblade lynch would give us information, a Simberto lynch also gives us quite a bit of information as well. If Simberto flips red, it all but confirms zelblade as town (unless Simberto is operating a long con bussing scheme). Also, it would be pretty strong evidence for narrowing our search down to either SacredSystem or Chocolate for day4. If he flips green (unlikely as I see it), it broadens our view of possible scum again, which is something I would like to know I need to do earlier rather than later. But look past all this to the endgame. We are 7 town against 2 scum. In order to win this game mafia are going to have to get 3 mislynches as well as not have their hit stopped the next two nights. This tells me that one of the only real ways that mafia have to win this game is by taking control of the days. Who among the remaining players really have the potential to take that kind of control? Myself, Bromancipate, sl0osh, Simberto, and maybe Adam. So not only do I think that I have made a strong enough case to get Simberto lynched on its own merit, but we would be safeguarding our endgame by lynching him.
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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 01 2012 00:07 GMT
#477
Posting lists is scummy prob, you should know that

Seriously though, I feel like of those 5 names I am mentioning, the last 2 scum are in there.

Chocolate looks bad. He spends all of day 1 soft defending zarepath, jumps on the zarepath vote quite late on day 2 (hes vote number 7 with 5 required to lynch), hes nigh on inactive and when he shows up he doesn't push any cases or reads.

Zelblade is an interesting case. I know people hate it when this gets said, but flipping him would provide a wealth of info. He was also fairly late on the Zarepath vote on day 2, after trying to push my case on SacredSystem. Jury is still out here, Id probably keep him alive another day while we lynch someone else and gather more information.

SacredSystem I eased up on a while ago. Hes another one who can stay around while we hang someone else.

Bromancipate: All I really said for you was that your post-count was lacking, but you're busy, so I get that. That and jitsu never followed up on something he said. He did however cast suspicion onto balt11t at the end of night 1 when not many people were really focused on him, so ill look elsewhere for mafia for now.

Simberto I've never called scum. I just said his postcount dropping off compared to day 1 was odd. Ill put some thoughts together on him soon.



At this point, I'm interested in a Chocolate lynch, and ill make my mind up on Simberto sometime in the next few hours after i finish reading.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
February 01 2012 00:20 GMT
#478
On February 01 2012 09:07 Adam4167 wrote:
Posting lists is scummy prob, you should know that

Seriously though, I feel like of those 5 names I am mentioning, the last 2 scum are in there.

Chocolate looks bad. He spends all of day 1 soft defending zarepath, jumps on the zarepath vote quite late on day 2 (hes vote number 7 with 5 required to lynch), hes nigh on inactive and when he shows up he doesn't push any cases or reads.

Zelblade is an interesting case. I know people hate it when this gets said, but flipping him would provide a wealth of info. He was also fairly late on the Zarepath vote on day 2, after trying to push my case on SacredSystem. Jury is still out here, Id probably keep him alive another day while we lynch someone else and gather more information.

SacredSystem I eased up on a while ago. Hes another one who can stay around while we hang someone else.

Bromancipate: All I really said for you was that your post-count was lacking, but you're busy, so I get that. That and jitsu never followed up on something he said. He did however cast suspicion onto balt11t at the end of night 1 when not many people were really focused on him, so ill look elsewhere for mafia for now.

Simberto I've never called scum. I just said his postcount dropping off compared to day 1 was odd. Ill put some thoughts together on him soon.



At this point, I'm interested in a Chocolate lynch, and ill make my mind up on Simberto sometime in the next few hours after i finish reading.

It was 7 required to lynch -.-
I think it's interesting that in less than 24 hours you have changed me from a null read to mafia, solely because I haven't posted much (although I have been posting). I'd also like you to show me when I soft defended zarepath.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 01 2012 00:26 GMT
#479
Says it right there at the bottom.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 30 2012 02:11 dreamflower wrote:
Voting Count Update

SacredSystem - 2
Adam4167
zelblade
zarepath

zelblade - 1
Simberto

zarepath - 6
DoYouHas
CosmosXAM
slOosh
SacredSystem
MidnightGladius
zelblade

Non-Voters - 3
Bromancipate
Chocolate
balt11t



Voting ends at 03:00 GMT (+00:00) today.

Currently, the number of votes needed to lynch is: 5 out of 9.



And since you asked:

On January 26 2012 04:53 Chocolate wrote:
Still looking at zellblade & zarepath but we've seen them post and zare is pretty active, zellblade may just be making nooby mistakes but he has still posted oddly.


and

On January 27 2012 11:07 Chocolate wrote:
Zare has a moderately strong case against him but I think lynching an active player who seems a little suspicious is worse than lynching one who is more suspicious and posts less


Good to know you're still reading the thread though.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
February 01 2012 00:36 GMT
#480
On February 01 2012 09:26 Adam4167 wrote:
Says it right there at the bottom.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 30 2012 02:11 dreamflower wrote:
Voting Count Update

SacredSystem - 2
Adam4167
zelblade
zarepath

zelblade - 1
Simberto

zarepath - 6
DoYouHas
CosmosXAM
slOosh
SacredSystem
MidnightGladius
zelblade

Non-Voters - 3
Bromancipate
Chocolate
balt11t



Voting ends at 03:00 GMT (+00:00) today.

Currently, the number of votes needed to lynch is: 5 out of 9.



And since you asked:

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 04:53 Chocolate wrote:
Still looking at zellblade & zarepath but we've seen them post and zare is pretty active, zellblade may just be making nooby mistakes but he has still posted oddly.


and

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 11:07 Chocolate wrote:
Zare has a moderately strong case against him but I think lynching an active player who seems a little suspicious is worse than lynching one who is more suspicious and posts less


Good to know you're still reading the thread though.

That was if those people never voted at all, once they had all voted it would've been 7. How does 5/12 even make sense?
In the OP it says how they determine the # required and for 12 it is 7.

You could call that soft defending zarepath but honestly at the time I was more suspicious of the lurkers. Also those were during the first day when the evidence and case against zare was much less than those of cosmos, ss, zellblade, or fakepromise.
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