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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
February 17 2012 03:43 GMT
#721
On February 10 2012 11:22 slOosh wrote:
It seems that the game was won mostly through help of blue roles in confirming ppl for late game rather than strong analysis.

People in Obs QT said my case against Zarepath was weak / confirmation bias, and I think besides MidnightGladius' vig shot and Adams hunches on Chocolate, as a town we didn't ever rally around a good analysis case.

Could you help point out posts which tipped off people as mafia? Or is this more an overall feel in which each post adds to the case rather than one solid post upon which you can lynch mafia?

Also, how can you differentiate between timidity due to being new to the game and timidity due to being mafia?

I agree that you didn't really rally around a good analysis case all game. I felt the zarepath lynch was lucky, and the rest came down to good blue play. MidnightGladius caught balt11t not contributing (which was a solid read), and chocolate and bromancipate were found mathematically.

I don't know if it's easy to point out which posts tipped off the people in the observer QT. Besides, most of the people in the observer QT were pretty far off base most of the game. In this game, I think the easiest way to figure out who was mafia was to look at the people who weren't really contributing very much. It was pretty obvious that the mafia didn't have much thread presence when zarepath got himself lynched. At that point, you should be looking to the players who don't have much of an ability to push an agenda in the thread. You can do really solid analysis by thinking about the position the mafia must be in based on how the game is going and then looking for players who fit the profile.

Generally, I don't think that you will find a tip off in every post by a player. I personally think post by post analysis is very silly. It usually comes down to a few posts where you realize that the player is not pushing the right kind of agenda. I'm reluctant to point out a specific post in this thread because of confirmation bias however. If you're okay with a little of that possibly leaking in, I'll go find something.
Uff Da
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
February 17 2012 21:01 GMT
#722
What does pushing a wrong agenda look like?
What differentiates it from a normal agenda (or a newbie town agenda)?
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 05:34:27
February 18 2012 05:33 GMT
#723
On February 18 2012 06:01 slOosh wrote:
What does pushing a wrong agenda look like?
What differentiates it from a normal agenda (or a newbie town agenda)?

Generally town players will try to contribute. Meanwhile, mafia will try to act like they are contributing without actually doing anything themselves. Look for things like:
Poking holes in the accusations of others while not putting forward any of your own
Pushing someone they know has no chance of getting lynched (usually so they can justify staying off bandwagons and not voting with the town)
Pushing a few candidates someone weakly in the hopes of the town picking up on one of them and running with it (that way they "contributed" to the lynch). You will notice that they drop a lot of their weak accusations relatively quickly and quietly.

Meanwhile newbie townies fall into 2 categories:
They try hard to contribute (at least once or twice - they may get discouraged after failure), but their logic is generally pretty bad.
They follow around players they think are better/more experienced, agreeing with most of the things that player says

Newbie mafia tend to get talked out of doing the latter one for too long by their teammates and you can usually differentiate with the former based on whether they actually tried to do a good analysis or not. It should be decently obvious to see which analyses took actual effort to put together, even if the logic isn't very good.
Uff Da
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11688 Posts
February 18 2012 18:55 GMT
#724
Hm, i did basically all on your mafia list while still being town, probably because i am just too careful and not really sure of what i think is really true. Probably what got me lynched in the end.
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