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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 04 2013 11:32 GMT
#441
(P)Dear vs (Z)RorO - Game 1 Recap


Map - (Wiki)Whirlwind LE

Dear Spawns 11oclock
RorO Spawns 5oclock

14Pool 16H opening for RorO
Dear Gateway and a Zealot starting immediately after, maybe some aggression incoming
Nexus does go down after along with MSC starting
RorO follows up with 3rd hatch
MSC kills the scouting ling when it comes out
Gas starting for RorO
3 gates added for Dear as warp gate gets chrono'boosted
Forward pylons going down...looks like 4 gate pressure
12 Lings on there way for RorO
Ling speed starts
Warpins have begun!
Just zealots being warped in and probe production has restarted for Dear
32 lings coming as reinforcements, lots of Zerg dieing but it is just Lings.
Lava being wasted is key here.
Robo starts for Dear
13 Worker lead for Dear due to the pressure he is putting on
3rd gets killed by Dear
Dear has a 19 worker lead
Immortal begins along with 4th gas starting
RorO is just throwing lings at these Zealots and getting awful trades, why hasn't he taken another gas and tried to get roaches out, no body knows
RorO just GGs as 30 lings die to 10 zealots for the 10th time.

(P)Dear 1-0 (Z)RorO
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
December 04 2013 11:32 GMT
#442
Why isn't a roach warren standard....
The Bomber boy
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
December 04 2013 11:32 GMT
#443
On December 04 2013 20:32 Veroleg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 20:23 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 04 2013 20:19 Wintex wrote:
On December 04 2013 20:17 Lorning wrote:
Bomber is only losing these days. If he even takes 1 map, I'd be surprised

He can't possibly lose vs Maru in his best matchup.
He has lost in a matchup he was uncomfortable in, and sOs probably has the best PvT in the world because of the style he plays.


sOs lost to Innovation and Taeja in PvT at DHW. Not sure how that is the best PvT in the world.

huh? how does that work?

Easy, he is Bomber's fan.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
December 04 2013 11:32 GMT
#444
As much as I dislike RorO, I have to cheer for him in the face of Protoss.
Long live the King of Wings
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
December 04 2013 11:32 GMT
#445
inb4 Dear does it 3 times because he has no respect for Roro.
Animostas
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States568 Posts
December 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#446
This build is so fucking strong lol. It was used a lot in IEM, I wonder what's the solution to it.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#447
On December 04 2013 20:32 Pandemona wrote:
Poll: Reccomend Dear vs RorO Game 1

Meh Game (9)
 
60%

Bad Game (5)
 
33%

Excellent Game (1)
 
7%

Good Game (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: Reccomend Dear vs RorO Game 1

(Vote): Excellent Game
(Vote): Good Game
(Vote): Meh Game
(Vote): Bad Game


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MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
December 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#448
I don't even know what a Zerg would do against that. Seems like the best build to do on a big macro map like Whirlwind.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
December 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#449
On December 04 2013 20:32 Wintex wrote:
Why isn't a roach warren standard....


On December 04 2013 20:31 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 20:30 LimitSEA wrote:
This is brutal. Dunno why Zergs don't build a roach warren early just in case.

Your eco is still pretty bad if you went 5 min roach warren and they don't commit then

Moderatorlickypiddy
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
December 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#450
On December 04 2013 20:33 Animostas wrote:
This build is so fucking strong lol. It was used a lot in IEM, I wonder what's the solution to it.


Maybe scouting?
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
December 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#451
Soul Dear = Soldier? O_O
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
December 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#452
On December 04 2013 20:31 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 20:30 LimitSEA wrote:
This is brutal. Dunno why Zergs don't build a roach warren early just in case.

Your eco is still pretty bad if you went 5 min roach warren and they don't commit then


Yeah but you don't have to build 12 roaches. If he does 2 warpins, then lings to buy time for roaches is best?

Getting an overlord close to pylon to allow you to spot amount of zealots is also effective. He'll probably not even warp in stalkers to kill it.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
December 04 2013 11:34 GMT
#453
can dear stop the rorotrain?
Moderatorlickypiddy
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
December 04 2013 11:34 GMT
#454
That sounded like ME3 music before start of game.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 11:34:24
December 04 2013 11:34 GMT
#455
One of those P snowball things I guess. Have to be ready for the first warp in and pylon or you are dead i guess
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
December 04 2013 11:34 GMT
#456
4 gate still imba in 2013 lol
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
December 04 2013 11:34 GMT
#457
On December 04 2013 20:33 Big-t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 20:33 Animostas wrote:
This build is so fucking strong lol. It was used a lot in IEM, I wonder what's the solution to it.


Maybe scouting?

Scouting does not work either. It delays tech, but not by really serious time. And you are not forced to commit.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
December 04 2013 11:34 GMT
#458
On December 04 2013 20:31 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 20:30 LimitSEA wrote:
This is brutal. Dunno why Zergs don't build a roach warren early just in case.

Your eco is still pretty bad if you went 5 min roach warren and they don't commit then

What would you recommend then?
The Bomber boy
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 11:38:05
December 04 2013 11:35 GMT
#459
On December 04 2013 20:32 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Anyone have the particulars on that Protoss build? Kind of feel like trying it out on the ladder now.

13 gate, 14 gas, zealot, cut probes at 20 (do 3 chronos then rest on warpgate), warpgate, nexus, mocore, pylon at nat, 3 gates walling nat, move out and rally sentry from main gate to nat. Warp in 1-2 rounds of zealots from a proxy pylon and go.

Best counter is to not take a third, hold with a few sunkens and tech faster. Hydras go really well vs a slow tech toss
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 04 2013 11:35 GMT
#460
On December 04 2013 20:28 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 04 2013 20:24 opterown wrote:
On December 04 2013 20:19 Wintex wrote:
On December 04 2013 20:17 Lorning wrote:
Bomber is only losing these days. If he even takes 1 map, I'd be surprised

He can't possibly lose vs Maru in his best matchup.
He has lost in a matchup he was uncomfortable in, and sOs probably has the best PvT in the world because of the style he plays.

Maru lost to JD. Even friggin' Scarlett has better ZvT than him.

JD.
And I like JD.

it's also maru's best, and maru has looked pretty damn solid in it.


I'd say the walls he bashed his head into looked more solid

Well, HerO and Dear at least. I can't really think of any other good protoss players that Maru's played. Duckdeok I guess.

D:

dear's got pretty solid walls but hero's can be meh unless he flukes a good run


Isn't Maru's TvP his best matchup? HerO's been so out of form but he still beat Maru. Wow, way to go HerO!
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