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vidium
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania222 Posts
September 23 2012 22:58 GMT
#21
Who need wheels in the space age? Just walk on everything you destroy!
You ever notice how no one returns to the barracks?
Minahga
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 23:04:18
September 23 2012 22:59 GMT
#22
On September 24 2012 07:39 wcr.4fun wrote:
I was expecting more of this, the anatomy thread has a lot more to say, this feels a bit superficial . Not to offend or anything, but there's not as much going into this when comparing it to the likes of the anatomy thread. Sorry!

Nah I'm not offended. It was my first try at this, so I'm definitely learning as I'm going. The Colossus sadly does not have much to say about it. People are free to add to the discussion as well, it's not like my word on the matter is final! ^__^

The next write ups will say more! So look forward to that.

On September 24 2012 07:39 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Reavers >>> Colossus should do your next one on them.

I decided after the Stalker I'm doing the Reaver. :3
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
September 23 2012 23:03 GMT
#23
On September 24 2012 07:58 vidium wrote:
Who need wheels in the space age? Just walk on everything you destroy!


Terran tech probably looks as fantastical to Protoss as Protoss tech does to terran. Like tanks and shit with wheels and Protoss is like "oh damn how does that work" and Terran is like "i'll never tell you"
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Kingsky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 23:05:40
September 23 2012 23:04 GMT
#24
On September 24 2012 07:39 wcr.4fun wrote:
I was expecting more of this, the anatomy thread has a lot more to say, this feels a bit superficial . Not to offend or anything, but there's not as much going into this when comparing it to the likes of the anatomy thread. Sorry!


well you cant really explain anything with the protoss race with our technology or physics anyway. even if assuming the planet they are in have the same gravitational fields and physics. Their engines and whatnot and how they move are explained by "Psionic energy" and that just kinda kills the science behind it.

i guess it will be how to intepret the loopholes and lore of SC->SC2 instead of analogy of technology of protoss
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 23 2012 23:05 GMT
#25
Perhaps these threads are better suited for blogs...
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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 23:10:18
September 23 2012 23:07 GMT
#26
Protoss engineers, were apparently amazed by War of the Worlds.

Lets also dissect the infamous gold fish which is swimming inside of Immortal. Whats the purpose of it?

Curious.

edit: no one saw that
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Ponera
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 02:54:19
September 24 2012 02:52 GMT
#27
I am Ponera and I am glad you made this as I am a total derp at technology! Thanks Riv!

Also the purpose of the fish is clearly like the fish in a hippo tank, to eat biological waste be it from shedding skin or pooping in his tank. :D
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b0mBerMan
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan271 Posts
September 24 2012 02:59 GMT
#28
Great work
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
September 24 2012 03:03 GMT
#29
Haha that was a fun read, thanks for the writing, keep it up!
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targ
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Malaysia445 Posts
September 24 2012 03:10 GMT
#30
Who says Protoss doesn't have wheels! One need only look at their buildings to know that this is false
http://billyfoong.blogspot.com/ my other opinions are here
Ponera
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 04:26:10
September 26 2012 04:22 GMT
#31
Really excited for stalker, I can't wait to hear someone's take on blink as well as the way those weapons actually move (moving parabollically), as well as the way they move- it's as if gracefulness had a functional baby with awkwardness. I wanna know what that thinger on the side of the top does as well. River, you are so creative, I can't wait to hear all about it!

I say nice things now you post more content that's how it works: that's the ninja code!
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Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
September 26 2012 04:34 GMT
#32
*Like*
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
September 26 2012 05:01 GMT
#33
That was awesome
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 26 2012 05:05 GMT
#34
This one was a bit underwhelming compared to your T analysis, but still cool stuff! ^__^

Thanks for making this~ protoss are cool
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Ponera
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada596 Posts
September 26 2012 05:16 GMT
#35
If you didn't know, the terran analysis is done by a different user. The writing style and goals of it are different, as to be expected by a different user! Each race has its own unique user, though IMO zerg is the coolest*

*disclaimer: I am biased.
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Ponera
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada596 Posts
September 28 2012 07:09 GMT
#36
Given what River has told me about her thoughts on the stalker, I honestly think this update from her will be the best update in any of the three threads so far.
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Minahga
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 19:17:28
September 28 2012 19:05 GMT
#37
Hey guys, sry for the long wait! Here is the Stalker in all its blinky glory!

The Stalker
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Stylish, sleek, and downright sexy, here we have a fragile yet agile machine of war. But it's not just any old Protoss robot, it's got a pilot inside! The Stalker is a Dark Templar Dragoon in essence, and has that typical Dark Templar style of being super sneaky in design.

The Stalker is a small 4 legged strider with 2 smaller arms underneath. Although Stalkers are not shown using these arms in game, they appear very sharp and blade like, most likely to replace the usual psionic blades that are absent on the Stalker. The Dark Templar inside seems to be reduced to only a head, making him a gravely wounded warrior nearly past his time. By "shadow essence" I think it means that only the mind of DT remains in that cold metal body, with his head fused at the base with a series of tubes connecting his mind to the walker. The entire upper body of the Stalker is the life support system, filled with a mysterious green liquid. Light can be seen emanating through and glowing regularly, almost as if it is indicating the Stalker's pulse.
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The vastly ancient and intelligent Protoss mind is not one to idle however, so the DT pilot puts his brain power to use in controlling 6 limbs. I imagine having four legs would take quite a bit of concentration to simply even walk correctly. The Stalker also has a large ornate shield on the right side of its body, protecting the important life-supporting body of the Stalker. This very much fits the DT theme of sneakiness and survival. You may also note the health and shielding of the Stalker is 80/80, a Stalker having double the health of a normal DT (40/80) and identical shielding. Looks like a pretty good life support system to me! It is also known from one of the Stalker's quotes that the Stalker's metal body is made of steel. This would be considerably weaker than Terran Neosteel. Nonetheless, Stalkers begin with 1 armor up to a maximum of 4 after upgrades.

The Stalker is not considered a biological unit at all, much like the Immortal, it is Armored and Mechanical. The reason why is because the biological parts (the pilot) are so deeply integrated into the strider keeping them alive, that all damage would go to the walker, which would then kill the Protoss inside once it stops functioning. This differs from Terran space suits as the suit is only a thin protective layer of metal, the person inside is still able to suffer from bio damage. Not so much for Protoss, they'd rather explode spectacularly upon death.

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Stalker don't care about no Marine. Source

On to the weapons. Stalkers are armed with Particle Disruptors which fire from the front of the Stalker's large body. Stalkers have no way of seeing it up there above their head, but they have no problem shooting air units so I wouldn't underestimate a Protoss's mental abilities to calculate where to shoot. As for the way the beam fires, with it appearing to quickly separate and recombine in less than a second, is the "disruption" part of Particle Disruptors. The damage comes from the Stalker making the particles it hits "disrupt" essentially splitting them and recombining them in less a second, just like you see in the initial firing of the beam. I can imagine this is seriously painful and would deal more damage to armored targets, the hardness of the armor cracking and unable to recombine efficiently like softer materials, leaving jagged holes behind.

Why it does not simply rip units asunder is what I think to be the result Protoss empathy for living things. Rather than burning the body or shredding it with their psionic might, they kill it with precision to leave the body whole, presumably so it may decompose. Upper tier Protoss units hold no regard for this philosophy however, relentless in their fiery attacks. It assumed you have really pissed off the Protoss at that point.

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Now for blink! Arguably the coolest spell in the game, it has a 10 second cooldown for fun micro madness. The lore describes it as a mere augmentation for the Stalker, meaning that for the Protoss, all they did was develop a portable Warp Drive and stick it inside every Stalker once it was finished! Something like manipulating space and time is so easy for the Protoss, and is nearly impossible for us to even imagine. Here is an excerpt from the Warp Prism's lore which uses a similar blink technology.

"For thousands of years the Protoss have studied the nature of time and space, gaining insight into the universe’s greatest mysteries. Using psionic manufacturing processes, they created a robotic mind whose programming is built into the molecules of an advanced crystal lattice. The resulting device is able to manipulate matter and energy with incredible precision."

It is assumed that a modified version of this device is used in the Stalker for the blink ability, manipulating its own matter rather than outside matter. From the animation it looks like it decompiles itself as Protoss data and then recompiles it at the new location in an instant.

Here's some Stalkers in mid-blink.
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Surprise!
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v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 20:12:07
September 28 2012 20:07 GMT
#38
Minahga, cool thread and awesome write ups.

The Zealot piqued my initial fascination with Protoss:

The Zealot is a Psionic Warrior trained for decades in melee combat and the Art of War. They are masters of discipline and efficiency; capable of harnessing their rage into a controllable frenzy, and dispersing into raw matter; able to engage ranged targets in microseconds . They are bred to both despise and hunt their enemies without mercy, training feverishly, even more so after the loss of Aiur.

Being lesser Templar walking the Path of Khala they have limited foresight which is used to predict enemy movement, make precise, deadly strikes, and evade assault. Knowing the penalty for loss of these brave and fanatical Warriors, they are warped to safety upon inflicting heavy damage. To later be transplanted into war machines if they are too wounded; once more destined to fight as Dragoons and Immortals.


I'd love it if you did one for the Zealot. They have some seriously cool tech.

"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
Minahga
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 22:44:56
September 28 2012 22:37 GMT
#39
On September 29 2012 05:07 v3chr0 wrote:
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Minahga, cool thread and awesome write ups.

The Zealot piqued my initial fascination with Protoss:

The Zealot is a Psionic Warrior trained for decades in melee combat and the Art of War. They are masters of discipline and efficiency; capable of harnessing their rage into a controllable frenzy, and dispersing into raw matter; able to engage ranged targets in microseconds . They are bred to both despise and hunt their enemies without mercy, training feverishly, even more so after the loss of Aiur.

Being lesser Templar walking the Path of Khala they have limited foresight which is used to predict enemy movement, make precise, deadly strikes, and evade assault. Knowing the penalty for loss of these brave and fanatical Warriors, they are warped to safety upon inflicting heavy damage. To later be transplanted into war machines if they are too wounded; once more destined to fight as Dragoons and Immortals.


I'd love it if you did one for the Zealot. They have some seriously cool tech.



Ponera and I are going to do a joint collaboration together on that one! He's going to do the Anatomy, and I will be doing the Tech. ^__^
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v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
September 29 2012 00:14 GMT
#40
Even better. Looking forward to it.
"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
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