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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 30 2011 14:48 RobbybabyDTF wrote: I got win7 64 bit and 8 gigs, is it possible to allot some of my ram to graphics? If so how? or would it even have a benefit? You can't. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
Since i dont know too much about any of this stuff, i need to ask. Will upgrading from 4gb ddr3 ram to 8gb improve my FPS? Ive got a i7 clocked to 3.7 Ghz, gtx 470 and 4gb ddr3 and im kinda experiencing fps issues. If the screen is full of a maxed out moving ling/bane army engaging a maxed out terran army, my fps goes as low as 25-30. Is this normal for my kind of hardware? Its still playable but i absolutely notice the diference in fps and it anoys me. Ive got everything on the lowest in options. If you have an i7 and you are having any issues, ever, then you clearly have a problem that shouldn't be happening. It would take knowing the specs and system settings and software settings of your whole PC, but something isn't right. I have an Athlon X3, which is about a quarter of the power, and never have such issues. Ever. And I run on everything maxed. However 30fps isn't really that low. I dunno. Use fraps and see where exactly your FPS is going, because you shouldn't really notice a 'dip' to 30fps, you'd only notice if it went below 30. So your probably hitting a low of 15fps, as my guess. Either way. And I'm sure you are aware your system can handle everything at ultra with 60+fps. 2GB of RAM will run SC2 perfectly fine, as long as you don't have any programs running. If you do, you will get slowed down. 4GB should cover all multitasking except gaming + extreme applications, like maybe rendering and whatnot. Streaming should even be okay with 4GB. Also W7 64bit uses more RAM than 32bit, so if you are running at 3GB or less, use 32bit, if you are using more, use 64 bit so it can be taken advantage of. Using certain themes will use more RAM but it shouldn't matter if you have 4GB or more. | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
That being said, I saw DDR3-1600 RAM was available for $30 / 4GB last week on newegg (corsair XMS). I mean, at $30, why not stick it in and at least fill out all your ram slots. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 31 2011 00:14 Belial88 wrote: ^ Because theres no reason to? I mean damn, why don't you donate the $30? I'm sure someone can appreciate it. Can't you just take your girl out to dinner or something? Yeah, he can appreciate it if it makes one app a little bit more efficient. Don't make me hold up a crucifix made of X58 motherboards and chant "Triple channel DDR3" until you go back from whence you came. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.antiquated.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Donate-to-japan1.jpg) User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 31 2011 02:43 Belial88 wrote: ^ he hasn't made any comments indicating he could appreciate it, and given this is a SC2 forum, in the tech support section of that very forum, I'm makin a completely out the ass guess this is for Starcraft 2, in which case going over 4GB is goofy. + Show Spoiler + This isn't your budget SC2 PC thread, and you certainly didn't like people coming to the original version of that pointing out the misleading or inaccurate parts that you ended up needing to remove. Read the article in the OP, and see why the question was asked. As it turns out, someone wanting to spend more than $400 on a PC isn't a crime, and people use this particular forum for lots of questions not directly pertaining to SC2. If you don't want other people questioning your thread (I know for a fact you don't), don't go jumping on people for reasonable questions, with a solid basis, that might involve spending a few more dollars on small performance gains. | ||
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Sablar
Sweden880 Posts
But since 4gb RAM is like $40 it may very well turn out be useful for at least some things, and future games. Could that $40 be spent on something better like charity? Yes, but I don't see how that is relevant here. Anyway I'm not going to rush out and buy more RAM just yet myself though. I think most games are fine with 4gb. But I guess getting 8gb can be better than I thought. | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
Maybe I bought it already before I realized I wouldn't need it and my time is important to me and it's not worth $30 to take a trip to the Post Office and return it. Maybe I like seeing all 4 RAM slots filled, since it gives me satisfaction knowing that I'm operating at closer to 100% of my board's efficiency. Maybe I think it just looks pretty? or maybe, just maybe, at some point, I'll need 4GB more of RAM and I think that DDR3 is about as low as it's ever going to get. When DDR4 comes out, DDR3 production will stop and prices will actually RISE, like it did with DDR2, so I'm actually *saving* money by buying it now instead of later. None of that changes the fact that $30 for 4GB of RAM is stupidly cheap at its current price point. And for the record, I *agree* that getting more than 4GB of RAM is unnecessary and that's why I was explaining that I rarely, if ever go above 4GB of RAM usage. But you are being a jackass with the tone of your posts. | ||
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Sablar
Sweden880 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 31 2011 04:03 Sablar wrote: I still get annoyed over the over-the-counter PCs being sold with totally crap hardware and tons of RAM though. A bit OT but.. people who don't know PCs seem to assume RAM = performance. Better than when Vista first came out, and people selling it on PCs with 1GB or less RAM. That should have been criminal. But yeah, RAM can only help so much, which should be taken into consideration by anyone reading this thread. If in doubt, ask. | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 31 2011 04:09 exploding.godhand wrote: RAM is always helpful, but there is a certain point where a Gig will be less helpful than it would have been before. I have 6 gigs right now, and I am comfortably playing sc2 on low settings. you don't need a lot. If I added another gig, it would help, but less so than adding the 6th gig was. It all depends on what you use your computer for. You usually don't need more than 5. RTFA. Also, I'm curious how much you think RAM is helping if your graphics card is weak enough that you're on low settings. This thread is originally about using RAM to speed up page file access. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
8GB won't help you but with prices as low as they are, its a bit of a "why not" situation. It gets you ready for Windows 8 when 2012 pops around I guess. The only time I've gotten into the issue of needing 8GB of RAM is with Mac OS and that's because it sticks recently used programs into RAM and I don't think its quite as efficient as Windows 7 is (superfetch and all that). I do photoediting, GIS work, and light video work and the only problem I've ever got were I/O bottlenecks. | ||
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please
Benin60 Posts
I would like to grab some more ram, I dont mind paying for 2x4gb but im just wondering. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 31 2011 10:31 please wrote: Say i have 4 gb of ram on 1 stick, can i add 2 additional 2gb sticks that are the same, but different to the first one? I would like to grab some more ram, I dont mind paying for 2x4gb but im just wondering. Can't imagine that would be anywhere near as ideal as each channel having matching RAM of the same quantity, with the same number of modules. Depending on how mismatched you ended up being, you could probably even end up a bit slower. | ||
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please
Benin60 Posts
On March 31 2011 10:37 JingleHell wrote: Can't imagine that would be anywhere near as ideal as each channel having matching RAM of the same quantity, with the same number of modules. Depending on how mismatched you ended up being, you could probably even end up a bit slower. thanks for the advice =) I have noticed im getting close to maxing my ram at 4gb, just to add to the thread, i think getting 6-8 will be a worthy investment. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On March 31 2011 02:43 Belial88 wrote: ^ he hasn't made any comments indicating he could appreciate it, and given this is a SC2 forum, in the tech support section of that very forum, I'm makin a completely out the ass guess this is for Starcraft 2, in which case going over 4GB is goofy. User was temp banned for this post. 1) not solely a sc2 forum 2) tech section is not in the sc2 forum | ||
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