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unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
October 26 2011 04:56 GMT
#34321
On October 26 2011 13:54 woody60707 wrote:
Can someone explain this to me, because I hear this alot... Why do people who play this game think phoenix counter mass muta???

because if phoenix are microed correctly they rip through mutas
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
October 26 2011 04:59 GMT
#34322
On October 26 2011 13:56 unit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 13:54 woody60707 wrote:
Can someone explain this to me, because I hear this alot... Why do people who play this game think phoenix counter mass muta???

because if phoenix are microed correctly they rip through mutas


They have more range and can shoot / move at the same time.

If they are controlled well, they are extremely cost effective vs. mass muta.
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
October 26 2011 04:59 GMT
#34323
On October 26 2011 13:54 woody60707 wrote:
Can someone explain this to me, because I hear this alot... Why do people who play this game think phoenix counter mass muta???


Because cost for cost if you have your phoenix spread out enough that you don't get glaive worms bouncing between all your units, phoenix rip mutalisks apart.
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
October 26 2011 04:59 GMT
#34324
On October 26 2011 13:42 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Make Bonnell a pillar

I don't know for a pillar but he do a great job and his personality fit with those guys
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
sunman1g
Profile Joined May 2011
United States334 Posts
October 26 2011 05:00 GMT
#34325
the problem with that is.. once u done, you end up with dozens of phoenix who are useless against a tech switch from zerg, so they are not viable in large numbers and that's why they are never gonna be the counter to mass mass mutas, cause no toss would go mass phoenix to counter it.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 26 2011 05:00 GMT
#34326
On October 26 2011 13:56 unit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 13:54 woody60707 wrote:
Can someone explain this to me, because I hear this alot... Why do people who play this game think phoenix counter mass muta???

because if phoenix are microed correctly they rip through mutas

in a real game, it's not time-effective to micro phoenixes in that way against mass mutas. it only works for small numbers and when nothing else is going on
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 26 2011 05:02 GMT
#34327
Tyler sure is in bossmode today. Love how enthusiastic he is about the new units/game design.
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
October 26 2011 05:03 GMT
#34328
On October 26 2011 13:56 unit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 13:54 woody60707 wrote:
Can someone explain this to me, because I hear this alot... Why do people who play this game think phoenix counter mass muta???

because if phoenix are microed correctly they rip through mutas

Give me a game where that has happened. You would need a bot to 'rip' through mutas with pheonixes
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
October 26 2011 05:03 GMT
#34329
On October 26 2011 13:56 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 13:54 woody60707 wrote:
Can someone explain this to me, because I hear this alot... Why do people who play this game think phoenix counter mass muta???


I think because it does in small numbers. Phoenix absolutely destroys mutas in small numbers. Once the mutas hit a critical mass , it doesnt though. I don't think a lot of people argues that phoenixes loses to mass mutas.


Did you see the chat blow up with angry caplock "HELLO PHOENIX" when they said toss doesn't have a good AA.

I agree with you no top level people say that. But the people i talk to and play with (non pros) say that me when I QQ about the mass muta that kill me.
BreakfastTea
Profile Joined May 2011
United States184 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 05:06:00
October 26 2011 05:05 GMT
#34330
On October 26 2011 13:43 Hall0wed wrote:
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On October 26 2011 13:39 BreakfastTea wrote:
Not normally one to complain about the number of protoss on SotG, but when it comes to a protoss being objective about a unit as conceptually powerful as the replicator, it's hard not to shake your head a bit.


Obviously you don't play Protoss nor care about Protoss if you can't see what is wrong with the Replifail


Let everyone on this forum clap for your reading comprehension and critical thinking, you fucking idiot. The entire point of my post was that the replicator is a flawed unit. You just dissed me while AGREEING with my position. Yay for you.

User was warned for this post
Don't take me seriously, I'm no Pro. Neither are you.
Glockateer
Profile Joined June 2009
United States254 Posts
October 26 2011 05:06 GMT
#34331
As a terran player, I certainly find the carrier much more interesting than the tempest. Buff the carrier instead of replacing it. Try changing the phoenix a little?
GET SM4SHED
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 05:08:59
October 26 2011 05:08 GMT
#34332
You can only make one of the Thor units in HOTS.

The Conversation they had kind of implied some of them didn't know that! yet!
Never GG MKP | IdrA
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
October 26 2011 05:10 GMT
#34333
I used to love the hellbringer/loki in mechwarrior.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45182 Posts
October 26 2011 05:14 GMT
#34334
Destiny frickin hilarious...

Motherthors and Battle Hellion Transformation BM ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GeneralissimoNero
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States236 Posts
October 26 2011 05:16 GMT
#34335
Its a WATERBAT. The new hellion is a waterbat.
I will cheer for a Slayers Terran over any other player.
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
October 26 2011 05:19 GMT
#34336
So I heard shredders do 20 DPS/second.

That is a measure of acceleration.

Build them early and they one shot everything later in the game
Never say die
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
October 26 2011 05:19 GMT
#34337
Destiny should be a host of sotg too. He's amazing.
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
October 26 2011 05:21 GMT
#34338
I'm not saying that the Shredder doesn't look too powerful in the current alpha stages, but it only has a 6 second time.

So it would be very difficult to prevent ling runbys unless timed very well.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3092 Posts
October 26 2011 05:22 GMT
#34339
ahahahaahha I'm crying at the DB impression.
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
October 26 2011 05:24 GMT
#34340
geoff is sooo fucking funny omg <333
d=(^_^)z
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