On October 26 2011 13:54 woody60707 wrote:
Can someone explain this to me, because I hear this alot... Why do people who play this game think phoenix counter mass muta???

because if phoenix are microed correctly they rip through mutas

nvs.

Canada3609 Posts

October 26 2011 04:59 GMT

#34322

On October 26 2011 13:56 unit wrote:

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because if phoenix are microed correctly they rip through mutas

They have more range and can shoot / move at the same time.

If they are controlled well, they are extremely cost effective vs. mass muta.

Tektos

Australia1321 Posts

October 26 2011 04:59 GMT

#34323

On October 26 2011 13:54 woody60707 wrote:
Can someone explain this to me, because I hear this alot... Why do people who play this game think phoenix counter mass muta???

Because cost for cost if you have your phoenix spread out enough that you don't get glaive worms bouncing between all your units, phoenix rip mutalisks apart.

Toads

Canada1795 Posts

October 26 2011 04:59 GMT

#34324

On October 26 2011 13:42 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Make Bonnell a pillar

I don't know for a pillar but he do a great job and his personality fit with those guys

sunman1g

United States334 Posts

October 26 2011 05:00 GMT

#34325

the problem with that is.. once u done, you end up with dozens of phoenix who are useless against a tech switch from zerg, so they are not viable in large numbers and that's why they are never gonna be the counter to mass mass mutas, cause no toss would go mass phoenix to counter it.

NonY

8748 Posts

October 26 2011 05:00 GMT

#34326

On October 26 2011 13:56 unit wrote:

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because if phoenix are microed correctly they rip through mutas

in a real game, it's not time-effective to micro phoenixes in that way against mass mutas. it only works for small numbers and when nothing else is going on

DoomsVille

Canada4885 Posts

October 26 2011 05:02 GMT

#34327

Tyler sure is in bossmode today. Love how enthusiastic he is about the new units/game design.

Kar98

Australia924 Posts

October 26 2011 05:03 GMT

#34328

On October 26 2011 13:56 unit wrote:

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because if phoenix are microed correctly they rip through mutas

Give me a game where that has happened. You would need a bot to 'rip' through mutas with pheonixes

woody60707

United States1863 Posts

October 26 2011 05:03 GMT

#34329

On October 26 2011 13:56 dtz wrote:

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I think because it does in small numbers. Phoenix absolutely destroys mutas in small numbers. Once the mutas hit a critical mass , it doesnt though. I don't think a lot of people argues that phoenixes loses to mass mutas.

Did you see the chat blow up with angry caplock "HELLO PHOENIX" when they said toss doesn't have a good AA.

I agree with you no top level people say that. But the people i talk to and play with (non pros) say that me when I QQ about the mass muta that kill me.

BreakfastTea

United States184 Posts

October 26 2011 05:05 GMT

#34330

On October 26 2011 13:43 Hall0wed wrote:

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Obviously you don't play Protoss nor care about Protoss if you can't see what is wrong with the Replifail

Let everyone on this forum clap for your reading comprehension and critical thinking, you fucking idiot. The entire point of my post was that the replicator is a flawed unit. You just dissed me while AGREEING with my position. Yay for you.

User was warned for this post

Glockateer

United States254 Posts

October 26 2011 05:06 GMT

#34331

As a terran player, I certainly find the carrier much more interesting than the tempest. Buff the carrier instead of replacing it. Try changing the phoenix a little?

XRaDiiX

Canada1730 Posts

October 26 2011 05:08 GMT

#34332

You can only make one of the Thor units in HOTS.

The Conversation they had kind of implied some of them didn't know that! yet!

woody60707

United States1863 Posts

October 26 2011 05:10 GMT

#34333

I used to love the hellbringer/loki in mechwarrior.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States44312 Posts

October 26 2011 05:14 GMT

#34334

Destiny frickin hilarious...

Motherthors and Battle Hellion Transformation BM ^^

GeneralissimoNero

United States236 Posts

October 26 2011 05:16 GMT

#34335

Its a WATERBAT. The new hellion is a waterbat.

Ghoststrikes

Canada1356 Posts

October 26 2011 05:19 GMT

#34336

So I heard shredders do 20 DPS/second.

That is a measure of acceleration.

Build them early and they one shot everything later in the game

Kznn

Brazil9072 Posts

October 26 2011 05:19 GMT

#34337

Destiny should be a host of sotg too. He's amazing.

S2Lunar

1051 Posts

October 26 2011 05:21 GMT

#34338

I'm not saying that the Shredder doesn't look too powerful in the current alpha stages, but it only has a 6 second time.

So it would be very difficult to prevent ling runbys unless timed very well.

RogerChillingworth

2844 Posts

October 26 2011 05:22 GMT

#34339

ahahahaahha I'm crying at the DB impression.