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Darkfirex5
United States67 Posts
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Anacletus
United States733 Posts
On May 13 2012 12:30 Darkfirex5 wrote: well now we have a lot to work with at least, i guess ShiaoPi was onto something, time to avenge him :D I actually think that it may have been a mafia tactic to off someone who was NOT on the right track to make us think exactly what you are saying. Maybe you're mafia trying to start this trend? | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
He was at least generating content. Ana wasn't. More content means a higher chance of slip up whereas Ana might as well don't post. His fluffs are even more vague than BKEs even after day 2. general directions, bad town play. i aint mafia. But hindsight is 50/50. Dahdum, I would like to know your thoughts on unforgiven_ and mufaa. | ||
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Darkfirex5
United States67 Posts
On May 13 2012 01:57 Mufaa wrote: Ok. I'm posting from my phone so I cant separate the quotes into chunks to make it more readable but I'll respond as best as I can. First paragraph: This is too situational of a thing to address during the night before we've seen a mafia NK. I'd prefer to stay out of the details til d2 because I don't want to give the mafia too much insight on the pros and cons of night debating. If there is sufficient demand I will post about it. Until day when it's safer to post about it, I'd echo the point about if you've had a good d1 keep posting because you're probably a mafia target. If you aren't hold off until morning unless you have such a solid case from the night info that your death would confirm a person or at least some of the people you're suspicious of as scum. 2nd Paragraph: as far as my Brood vote I was trying to wait for a more solid case to get behind due to my inability to really create a solid case from my phone. I hope people would be suspicious of my lack of cases but like I said before d1 ran the 48h during a time when work really shit on me. Back to the question of the vote, I was trying to wait for a better case (I didn't think he was blue, but I wasn't expecting a scum flip either) so the vote on Jailbreaker was to try and get people to put some pressure on him before the day ended. Although it didn't get the desired effect of forcing him to post it did get people to remember him instead of just writing his inactivity off as lurking. Once I saw that people weren't going to pressure him into responding and he wasn't going to respond I switched to Brood in case there were last minute changes. I was still checking my phone in case I did need to switch but I still feel a Brood lynch gave us more info. Obviously this wasn't the best plan and if Jail ends up getting mod killed it was all for naught and I generated a bunch of heat on me for nothing. I have nothing to hide however so I don't mind the pressure on me since it is generating discussion. I think the fact that I didn't sheep a vote to avoid pressure earlier and have been transparent about my thoughts and decisions should speak volumes about my intent. I'll address the other posts against me when I get a chance and give my thoughts in general. Mufaa would u like to answer the 1st paragraph now that it's day 2? i dont want this to get burried because he got killed. | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
Finals have kept me busy, but I'm finished up with them. Now the only thing taking up my time is my SC2 tournament. Going to read through filters and try to get some discussions going. We have a lot of ground to make up on the scum. | ||
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Anacletus
United States733 Posts
Noticing the initial votes there are 5 people who didn't vote for me: austinmcc, Mufaa, Jailbreaker, Crossfire99, and Unforgiven_ve. austinmcc: I find his posts extremely town-oriented and the fact the he voted BKE and stuck with it through without bandwagoning seems very credible and I doubt that mafia would be so aggressive in posting, so I find him clean. Mufaa: I don't like how very early on his posts contained no assertions of mafia. I felt like he was just trying to stay clean and not put any pressure on himself until the very end of the day in which he voted for BKE. I also find his defense of me very fishy in that "Ana is probably just town" sort of thing. Jailbreaker: Dead/town Crossfire99: I don't find him suspicious for voting for me and sticking with his vote. Unforgiven_ve: I am not going to make a judgement at this time on his posting, although he raises my suspicions as well. My reasoning for bringing up the initial votes is because well - I know that: ShaioPi, Jailbreaker, BKE, and myself aren't mafia. That leaves 9 people left - with 4 being mafia. My synopsis of what happened day 1 was that the mafia began reasoning that I was of no use to the town so they abandoned my band wagon to try and hang someone more useful to the town. So my suspicions are of those who switched votes from me to BKE. My biggest suspicions lie with BioSC and FirmTofu - I truly believe them to be mafia and would like for one of them to get hung today, and here is my reasoning why: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=10#190 This post by Tofu not only distracts from any points made against BioSC but further asserts cases made against me and darkfire - and again my logic being that I know that I am not mafia so I can assume that the claims made against myself are baseless as his only points seem to be based off of what darkfire is saying. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=10#183 BioSC also makes excruciatingly similar posts to Tofu - it's almost as if they are working together! And my biggest reasoning to vote for them is because of how they both switched from my band wagon vote to vote for BKE after several times trying to seal a vote for me. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707¤tpage=17#326 My opinions on fluff posts using "we" in town situations are also pretty revealing with one's alignment. ##Vote BioSC Here's my vote - I strongly urge you guys to vote with me on this as I truly believe my synopsis to be accurate. | ||
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
Are you seriously calling me out for squashing this post? + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 10:58 Darkfirex5 wrote: Well though i still think Anecletus seems the scummiest, but he does make a... point i guess about BioSC id need more proof though than to change my vote to him, ill keep it in mind when reading his posts. I still find this a weak bandwagon forming as i stated before, does anyone want to respond to my post before? (feeling ignored D: ) As I have said, its one of the worst posts to try and make a case off of. I don't even have to look up other posts to contradict it. It contradicts itself! I really don't have to start a case with you. You've made that for yourself day 1, and I feel like there are others that we can sniff out. Honestly, going from + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 09:22 Anacletus wrote: I don't have any information. So no benefits and no doubts shall be given then I assume? to this post above mine should speak volumes. If you have any more meat to this case against me beyond "He voted for me, time to vote for him" I would love to know. As for whom I would like to call out, + Show Spoiler + I'm suspicious of Darkfirex5. He seems to be trying to shift focus away from Anacletus, and this is why I think that. + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 10:58 Darkfirex5 wrote: Well though i still think Anecletus seems the scummiest, but he does make a... point i guess about BioSC id need more proof though than to change my vote to him, ill keep it in mind when reading his posts. I still find this a weak bandwagon forming as i stated before, does anyone want to respond to my post before? (feeling ignored D: ) He's already done this twice in this day, pointing out small flaws and meaningless details in my posts to try and get an argument started against me. My strategy to deal with it was to stamp it out. Just because I'm putting pressure on someone, though, doesn't mean I'm not looking for more reads. There are at least 4 mafia in this game, and town needs to find them all to win. Darkfire: I still haven't gotten an answer for this post. Mind filling me in on the details? Like how you are trying to shift blame off of one of the scummiest players at the time to someone else on such a triviality? Unvorgiven_ve: Where the hell have you been, and why is it that the person the mafia hit has you #1 on their list? DahDum: I've still got my reasons for suspecting you, and having Brood call you out only to not respond for 1.5 days adds to the suspicion. | ||
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
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Anacletus
United States733 Posts
On May 14 2012 10:54 BioSC wrote: EBWOP: Ana: Please use the spoiler function if you are going to quote posts please. It makes the post much easier to read... I was linking to the exact quote instead of just quoting it in my post to try and make it easier to read and make it not so huge of a post. But spoilering quotes does sound great as well - I will make sure to do that next time, thanks for your input on this. | ||
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Anacletus
United States733 Posts
On May 14 2012 10:51 BioSC wrote: @Analectus: Who did you get to write this for you? Seriously, this is night and day better than your first day posts. I would be proud of you, but for someone who's neck just came off the chopping block for crappy posts, this sure is an oddity, especially against me. I've given my reasons for shifting my vote, look through my filter for it. If your reason to vote for me is simply for NOT voting for you, then you need to look a bit deeper. This is very cute. On May 14 2012 10:51 BioSC wrote: Unvorgiven_ve: Where the hell have you been, and why is it that the person the mafia hit has you #1 on their list? This is exactly what I am talking about man. You're playing exactly like mafia would. Of course the mafia wouldn't kill someone who was suspecting mafia - they would lynch someone who was pointing fingers at another townie and then after the killing they would bring up "Oh, this person_X thought Person_Y was mafia and Person_X was killed, that must mean Person_Y is mafia too and was killed for the suspicions!" I'm even more deeply convinced that you are mafia now. | ||
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On May 14 2012 11:16 Anacletus wrote: This is exactly what I am talking about man. You're playing exactly like mafia would. Of course the mafia wouldn't kill someone who was suspecting mafia - they would lynch someone who was pointing fingers at another townie and then after the killing they would bring up "Oh, this person_X thought Person_Y was mafia and Person_X was killed, that must mean Person_Y is mafia too and was killed for the suspicions!" I'm even more deeply convinced that you are mafia now. There are many types of mafia play style. Your theory is based on assumptions, a pretty horrible reason to lynch someone. I can just as easily assume that the scum are killing off people that ARE on the right track, and keeping people like me, aka people who are not yet on the right track and have been brought up multiple times, alive. Honestly, the people that keep bringing me up are 3. Dahdum, Darkfire, and YOU. All of you have brought up asinine things in my posting, typing errors, assumptions based on how they believe scum to be playing, ect. I've addressed them all. You got away with bad play day 1, and now you are trying to accuse me of being scum simply because I voted for Brood. Hint: YOU voted for brood. And if I were to ASSUME you are town, why the hell would you bring up someone who switched from you (a town according to you) to someone we believed was acting scummy? I've bolded my question to you. ##Vote Anacletus | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
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Darkfirex5
United States67 Posts
On May 14 2012 10:51 BioSC wrote: @Analectus: Who did you get to write this for you? Seriously, this is night and day better than your first day posts. I would be proud of you, but for someone who's neck just came off the chopping block for crappy posts, this sure is an oddity, especially against me. I've given my reasons for shifting my vote, look through my filter for it. If your reason to vote for me is simply for NOT voting for you, then you need to look a bit deeper. Are you seriously calling me out for squashing this post? + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 10:58 Darkfirex5 wrote: Well though i still think Anecletus seems the scummiest, but he does make a... point i guess about BioSC id need more proof though than to change my vote to him, ill keep it in mind when reading his posts. I still find this a weak bandwagon forming as i stated before, does anyone want to respond to my post before? (feeling ignored D: ) As I have said, its one of the worst posts to try and make a case off of. I don't even have to look up other posts to contradict it. It contradicts itself! I really don't have to start a case with you. You've made that for yourself day 1, and I feel like there are others that we can sniff out. Honestly, going from + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 09:22 Anacletus wrote: I don't have any information. So no benefits and no doubts shall be given then I assume? to this post above mine should speak volumes. If you have any more meat to this case against me beyond "He voted for me, time to vote for him" I would love to know. As for whom I would like to call out, + Show Spoiler + I'm suspicious of Darkfirex5. He seems to be trying to shift focus away from Anacletus, and this is why I think that. + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 10:58 Darkfirex5 wrote: Well though i still think Anecletus seems the scummiest, but he does make a... point i guess about BioSC id need more proof though than to change my vote to him, ill keep it in mind when reading his posts. I still find this a weak bandwagon forming as i stated before, does anyone want to respond to my post before? (feeling ignored D: ) He's already done this twice in this day, pointing out small flaws and meaningless details in my posts to try and get an argument started against me. My strategy to deal with it was to stamp it out. Just because I'm putting pressure on someone, though, doesn't mean I'm not looking for more reads. There are at least 4 mafia in this game, and town needs to find them all to win. Darkfire: I still haven't gotten an answer for this post. Mind filling me in on the details? Like how you are trying to shift blame off of one of the scummiest players at the time to someone else on such a triviality? Unvorgiven_ve: Where the hell have you been, and why is it that the person the mafia hit has you #1 on their list? DahDum: I've still got my reasons for suspecting you, and having Brood call you out only to not respond for 1.5 days adds to the suspicion. BioSC filter my last few posts, i havent been talking about you. I've been trying to look into Mufaa and dahdum. I've shifted away from you and i still want Analcetus to be lynched becuase if he pops mafia, it will be easy to track who saved him from the first lynch. In response to you directly, I was on edge with you being mafia but i began thinking you were protown. Again recently I've begun looking at dahdum and Mufaa. Also i was trying to poke at your defensive play, becuase you seem to always respond hyper defensive. I was trying to get more information out of you by knowing that i had an FOS on you. But now, moving ahead i think the biggest target is mufaa dahdun and Anacletus. I'll look to analyze material when i get back from school. | ||
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Anacletus
United States733 Posts
On May 14 2012 12:06 BioSC wrote: For someone who claims to be town, you sure do know exactly how the mafia are thinking. + Show Spoiler + On May 14 2012 11:16 Anacletus wrote: This is exactly what I am talking about man. You're playing exactly like mafia would. Of course the mafia wouldn't kill someone who was suspecting mafia - they would lynch someone who was pointing fingers at another townie and then after the killing they would bring up "Oh, this person_X thought Person_Y was mafia and Person_X was killed, that must mean Person_Y is mafia too and was killed for the suspicions!" I'm even more deeply convinced that you are mafia now. There are many types of mafia play style. Your theory is based on assumptions, a pretty horrible reason to lynch someone. I can just as easily assume that the scum are killing off people that ARE on the right track, and keeping people like me, aka people who are not yet on the right track and have been brought up multiple times, alive. Honestly, the people that keep bringing me up are 3. Dahdum, Darkfire, and YOU. All of you have brought up asinine things in my posting, typing errors, assumptions based on how they believe scum to be playing, ect. I've addressed them all. You got away with bad play day 1, and now you are trying to accuse me of being scum simply because I voted for Brood. Hint: YOU voted for brood. And if I were to ASSUME you are town, why the hell would you bring up someone who switched from you (a town according to you) to someone we believed was acting scummy? I've bolded my question to you. ##Vote Anacletus I haven't brought up typing errors in your postings or any asinine things. I am not voting for you solely because you voted for BKE. I am voting for you because of how you acted so confident in voting for me yet were okay with swing voting so late. I associate voting late with being mafia so you can change votes without being noticed. I voted for BKE because I felt pressured to vote for someone else to save my life - as mentioned SEVERAL times before I didn't think he was mafia. You haven't even addressed how you've tried to tie me to darkfire so hard yet at the same time have had posts paralleling FirmTofu. And of COURSE I bring up the fact that you're trying to denote hanging correlations with who the hanged thought was guilty, it's pretty standard mafia play. I'm convinced that you're mafia and you're voting for me because I think you're mafia? Cute reasoning, my vote isn't a counter to you voting for me on day 1, this is me being convinced that you are mafia. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
wtf. Look at the facts guys. This guy completely switched the direction of a lynch on a scummy player onto a blue town. Yeah, he's been playing pro-town, but that doesn't negate the fact that his actions have led to a deficit in our numbers! If Anacletus flips mafia, austinmcc is nearly certainly mafia. Everything points to it. Buddying is already evident in Anacletus' posts but I'm going to read more to find a substantial argument in favor of this. | ||
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Especially when you don't even have the quote in context. + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 06:43 Darkfirex5 wrote: Lastly: I was refering to why you said town gets a nice snipe instead of we are geting a nice snipe, i was only adding on some slight pressure on the begining, which was similar to other posts. The way you get very defensive and attack my one post only asking about your reference to town/mafia. FOS: BioSc From your posts folowing, i think less of you as being mafia, and more so townie, that doesnt mean i wont continue keeping an eye on you too. Shocking, to state that I don't trust someone in a mafia game. Again, I've stated my reason for switching votes. Since you can't be bothered looking it up, here it is: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 05:45 BioSC wrote: Back to the case at hand. I've stated multiple times that I believe Anacletus to be scum, however, with the recent case against BXE, I'm inclined to swap my vote to him. The biggest reason I am to swap my vote over, is this line in Austin's case. + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 05:08 austinmcc wrote: If that makes sense, and recent action just doesn't support a scenario where Anac is scum and Brood is town, then we should take out Brood. We can deal with Anac later if he IS scum, because he's got no chance to be really disruptive after his start. Both players have had people call them out on being scummy. However, due to Anac losing all credit with the town, regardless of affiliation, it would be tough for him ,should he be mafia, to get any ball rolling on someone else in town. It's not a forgiveness for bad play, its a delay in action for a scum target appearing more scummy near the end of the day. ## Unvote ## Vote BroodKingEXE Town gained more information from lynching someone acting a bit less scummy, than someone who was playing so awful that they were a detriment no matter what team they were on. As to you voting for BKE just to save your own skin... Yeah, there is a better way to do that. Make a case against someone who is playing scummy, like we told you about 5 times. The way you were playing yesterday probably meant we weren't going to believe you, but that is what it is. Voting for someone you believe isn't scum? That shouldn't be a town strategy. That is the strategy of scum that got saved by a bad town play. I haven't tied you to anyone. I've been pointing out your scummy plays. Something YOU have failed to do so far in your case against me. As to your "Late Vote" Theory, there were 3 swapped votes in the same hour. Mine, Yours, and DahDum's. There were 4 people who switched later, including the hour of lynch time. Honestly, if you ARE town, I don't even think you know why you are making a case against me. If you are mafia, then the obvious reason would be to get a ball rolling on someone who's been vocal in the thread, so to make it "easier" to garner votes towards me. | ||
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Unforgiven_ve
Venezuela1232 Posts
i did read some of the post and i have a couple htings to point out, but im so tired, its 1:50am and i just got home. i will be posting tomorrow. | ||
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Anacletus
United States733 Posts
Again, I've stated my reason for switching votes. Since you can't be bothered looking it up, here it is: I've stated several times that I am not voting for you solely based on your reasoning for changing votes. Make a case against someone who is playing scummy, like we told you about 5 times. You're pretty condescending for someone who doesn't address any of the points I've made against them, but instead creates round-about posts that pretty aggressive. I haven't tied you to anyone. You've tried to tie me to darkfire several times. Something YOU have failed to do so far in your case against me. We can't lynch more than one person per day so I'm not aiming for a complete mafia call out - I am just convinced that you are mafia. I've also said several times that I believe that FirmTofu is mafia as well based on your posting similarities. But I guess you overlooked that. Honestly, if you ARE town, I don't even think you know why you are making a case against me. Got me there! Wait, not really, try reading my last couple of posts. If you are mafia, then the obvious reason would be to get a ball rolling on someone who's been vocal in the thread, so to make it "easier" to garner votes towards me. So your defense now is: "I'M NOT MAFIA, HE'S MAFIA"? Let's say the town DOES finally decide to hang me, you don't think I'll end the day with someone like "Okay, once you hang me go after BioSC and FirmTofu"? I feel like your strategy is pretty near-sighted for being a mafia. Your cute plan of trying to get whoever ShiaoPi was fingering more imaginative. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
As of right now, I've got a few people that I'd love to see post more. Mufaa, Unforgiven, Hyaach, Firm. I've got weak townie reads on some of you, but there's just not enough there to go on. Please try and get some substantive posting in today. Inactivity is killing us (and i've contributed), so we've got to try and turn this around. Also interested in hearing more from Dahdum and BioSC. You guys keep calling each other out, but haven't drummed up that much interest from the rest of us it seems. Can either of you really put something good together on the other, why you think they might be scummy beyond just OMGUS? Either one of you could have something there, but I don't find anything in your filters all that convincing. Asking for more from others doesn't really give you anything from me, so here's what I've got to contribute. Right now my top read, and my vote, are on Darkfire His D1 filter is some general talk about "bandwagoning" and pronouns. Votes Anac because he seems scummiest, but doesn't really give much of his own read. Just kind of going along with where votes were falling at the time. He pops in during the Anac/Brood discussion only to give the one post that everyone seems to find suspicious: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 06:17 Darkfirex5 wrote: I'd suggest filtering BKEXE's posts. From what I'm reading of what he has posted, there isnt anying that makes me want to switch the bandwagon onto him (fairly) last minute. There isnt enough posts from him to make the acusation he is more mafia than that of Anacletus. I dislike this massive wagon switch because instead of going with the safest mafia guess, we switch it last minute to someone i think we need more posts from to prove he is mafia. Dark, I need to really hear some defense of this statement from you. What made Anac the safest mafia guess? What reasons did you really have for voting him? You repeat this argument after D1, lamenting why nobody listened to you. Well, what should we have listened to? Give us a decent reason you voted Anac and didn't vote Brood. Brood's filter was one of the longer ones in the game at that point, as we've pointed out, and, in fact, Brood's filter during D1 was longer than yours is this entire game so far. If his filter wasn't long enough to give you evidence he was scum, your filter really isn't long enough to convince me that you're town. The only response you've given to anyone's suspicions on you so far is The reason i like to stay cautious is because when things start happening fast like at the end of day one, we may end up switching the bandwagon and lynching a townie, inthis case the cop. I also think suspicions on people are much different then placing a vote. By me saying im suspicious of people means okay, something doesnt seem right but i need more evidence for me to want to put a vote on them to be lynched. The reason i kept the slight defense on Anacletus was becuase it was still day 1 and its hard to decide on the lynching. I ended up voting on him anyway becuase he seemed more scummy than EXE and i didnt like risking the vote on EXE before more evidence was obtained from/for him to prove he was scummy. So i went with the person who seemed the scummiest at the time, Anacletus. This feels like really weak reasoning. I maintain that there wasn't much of a case on Anac, and there was a decent case on Brood. I don't know why you had enough evidence on Anac but not on Brood. You've never really clearly explained your choices, either during D1 or in response to people calling you out. And they have. Here's ShiaoPi: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 10:00 ShiaoPi wrote: I want to focus a bit on darkfirex5: If you read through his filter, you immediately see that there is simply a lot of weak halfcases he starts against several people, these include: Anacletus (where his vote ends up), BioSC, FirmTofu and dahdum. His posts are few and mostly within the context of the Anacletus discussion, in which he seemingly takes a diverting role with his suspicions. In regards to BKE he writes the following: + Show Spoiler + I'd suggest filtering BKEXE's posts. From what I'm reading of what he has posted, there isnt anying that makes me want to switch the bandwagon onto him (fairly) last minute. There isnt enough posts from him to make the acusation he is more mafia than that of Anacletus. I dislike this massive wagon switch because instead of going with the safest mafia guess, we switch it last minute to someone i think we need more posts from to prove he is mafia. I bolded the part which seemed weird to me. I could agree with his reasoning on not wanting to switch before, but BKE was actually one of the more active players so it seems like a sentence without anything backing it up. Generally speaking he is acting scummy as in non-comittal to his reads/suspicions and inactivity. Keep your eyes on him. On May 12 2012 20:36 ShiaoPi wrote: Darkfirex5 also posted the following: + Show Spoiler + I guess no one listened to me about the switch of the bandwagon with no solid evidence compared to the "safer" bet with Anacletus, I'll be going over the people who switch vote, i gtg for now but i believe i saw a mafia group bandwagoning to get it started. <-- ill be looking into that Which means he is totally ignoring my post about him. Just a general statement of regret and a somehow flawed logic of a "safer bet". I believe we have quite established that Anacletus can easily be lynched later if the need arises. Anyone else up for pressuring him as well? Here's me: + Show Spoiler + Darkfire. Others have already mentioned this. As votes are coming in on Anac, says it's a "weak bandwagon," with weak reasoning behind it. An hour and a half later, drops his vote on Anac. Now finds Anac scummiest. Then he defends Brood, saying he wants "more posts" from one of the more active players at that point and time (based purely on filter length). At night, we get this: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 11:32 Darkfirex5 wrote: I guess no one listened to me about the switch of the bandwagon with no solid evidence compared to the "safer" bet with Anacletus, I'll be going over the people who switch vote, i gtg for now but i believe i saw a mafia group bandwagoning to get it started. <-- ill be looking into that I have no idea what to make of that. He didn't think anac was scum until anac's self-vote, then decided anac was the safest/safer lynch? Complains about no solid evidence on Brood, but again, I think the evidence DID look bad for Brood. And if it didn't, what good evidence was there on Anac? Also, just very, very focused on bandwagoning in general, mentioning it a LOT. It's not necessarily a bad thing, and I still believe that at the end of D1, Brood looked the scummiest. After ShiaoPi gets killed, here's Darkfire - On May 13 2012 12:30 Darkfirex5 wrote: well now we have a lot to work with at least, i guess ShiaoPi was onto something, time to avenge him :D Another unhelpful post after an event (Just like his "safer" bet comment after D1). Without any recognition that one of ShiaoPi's main reads was him. Shiao had called out Darkfire twice, I'd chimed in, and Dark still hasn't responded to any of that. While he recently claims to have been trying to look into Mufaa and Dahdum, there's nothing there. His looking into Mufaa is just quoting a post from Shiao (without ever answering Shiao's questions about himself). I don't see him "looking into" dahdum at all, except after dahdum calls him out on typoing Unforgiven's name into a post instead of Anac. There really just doesn't seem to be anything in his posts at all. There's a lack of unhelpful reads. Multiple UNhelpful posts (after D1 and N1). A complete lack of response to Shiao and my concerns about him. Right now Darkfire, you're my number one scum read, and you get my vote. ##Vote: Darkfirex5 | ||
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