Good evening Rapists and Murderer’s. Since we have a glorious benefactor in the mighty Joker we get the joy of doing what we do best. For some of you it is killing, some it’s torturing, some it’s sitting there and continuing to drool. However for the rest of the night we get to have fun and games. For the purposes of the game I, the mighty Bloodyc0bbler was chosen to be the MC. For all those who received an invitation you should find your cell door now unlocked and are now free to play. For those whose door is now locked you may take the approach of dear old Qatol and break yourself out. If that option does not appeal to you, you could attempt Ver’s approach and walk yourself right out the front door. Regardless, welcome to the game. No one push, no one Shove, oh whom am I kidding, and everyone should do far more than push and shove.
Now remember everyone, joker’s rules are very explicit. People have to die. Everyone with his or her invitation was provided a list of who all was invited. You will find conveniently located ballot boxes located around every facility, the grounds, and possibly a few bathroom stalls. Once 48 hours have gone by, that person will die. Don’t ask how as I won’t tell. I will be kind and announce who the unlucky person was. I am sure you will all run into each other randomly, or scrawl notes on walls or the like to communicate. After 24 hours those ballot boxes reset and you get to continue the fun all over again.
BloodyC0bbler aka Jack Ryder has hidden and is now the asylum announcer.
Qatal aka Harvey Dent has broken out and headed into Arkham Ver aka clayface turned into a guard and walked his way to freedom sandroba…. I mean commissioner Gordon is knocking on the front gates.
There are no clues in the above post; this will be the only day that is exempt from clues. The roles listing on the main page has the win conditions of all sides added to avoid confusion for all players. Thank you. A voting thread will be posted momentarily.
I hope you fine folks have taken notice of this little gem:
Activity: You must post in this thread 5 times per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled.
And will spare us your foolish lurker tendencies.
Now anyone who wishes to do so, I invite your PMs with open arms.
First things first, let's lay out some things we want to achieve, and some guidelines.
A pro-town atmosphere
This normally goes without saying, but it often bears repeating. If we want to catch scum, we need to have the proper environment for scum hunting and for communicating with each other. This means a couple things:
Promoting scum hunting.
Not having pointless arguments
Actively contributing
All that jazz
Basically, we want to keep the thread as clean as possible, because chaos best serves mafia, not town. If you really don't know what to do, there's town guides. I'm not going to write one here, because I'm too lazy, and don't consider myself experienced enough to try. However, I am going to go through the three points above, as I think they are very important.
We always want people to scum-hunt. There's never an excuse not to scum-hunt; everyone can do it. This provides us with many benefits. First, it's the primary method for actually finding scum. It also means that people have to give their actual thoughts, and have to come up with things beyond "I agree". This gives us information, and information is good. It lets us know what you're thinking, and it puts pressure on mafia to have to contribute. Also, forcing mafia to scum-hunt means that there's a good chance of catching them just based on their analysis, because it's hard to find people who are scummy, when you know they aren't scum.
Next, we want to avoid bickering. This goes hand in hand with keeping the thread clean. This is different from actually debating with people, and you should be able to tell the difference between rationality, and NO U. If anyone is having a pointless argument, they will be asked to stop. It doesn't help town, only mafia.
Lastly, we want people to contribute. There's a posting limit of 5 posts per day/night, but that doesn't give you permission to skirt that limit. It's easy for mafia to hide amongst lurkers, and beyond that, lurkers are nearly impossible to analyze. So, contribute. This doesn't mean make tons of pointless one-liners, it means providing actual thoughts, analysis, and content. You can do it, I believe in you. And if you don't, we can always just ask a vig to shoot you. We don't want people to lurk.
Clues
There's clues in this game. However, all clue analysis MUSTMUSTMUST be backed up by post analysis. Before you post the clue analysis too. The reason for this, is that clues will most likely point to all kills. this means that some of the clues are going to point to vigs, some will point to third parties, and the others will point to mafia. Accidentally outing a vig because you solved the clues about them is bad. So, if you think someone's attached to a clue, go back and re-read their posts. If you think they look scummy, then post an analysis that contains the clue analysis. If you think they're town, just hold onto your analysis. Clue-analysis should always be used to supplement an actual behavioural analysis. It should never be the main point for calling someone scummy. In other words: Clues pointing towards a person does not equal scum.
Third Parties
Looking at the third parties, here's what we want:
-We want Joker to die. -We want Batman to kill Joker. -This means that Batman wins, and should hopefully be removed from the game, also removing Ra’as Al Ghul who can no longer achieve his victory condition.
This is the optimal way the third party part of the game will go. We want Batman to kill Joker before Ra'as can kill Batman, so that we don't have to deal with Joker ourselves. So, if you think someone's acting like an SK, don't be afraid to point it out, as this should help Batman achieve his win-con, and let us get on with the rest of the game.
If Joker is lynched, is Batman removed from the game? If Batman is removed from the game, is Ra'as removed from the game?
Yaaay I happened to check TL right when the day post went up! This is my first ever mafia game, so please bear with me while I try to figure things out. I read/skimmed/was confused by/scrolled aimlessly through Ver's epic guide, and from what I understand, it seems to be standard play to lynch the most inactive people? Though I guess that won't be apparent until a day from now, and with 5 posts each, "inactive" will have to be really relative D:
Another concept I saw browsing around some other games was a "zodiac list," which seemed to be somewhat effective (or at least not hurtful) and apparently is pretty much just a list of the best/most active players in the game. Unfortunately I don't really have a feel for who the good players are, and from what I can tell it doesn't seem to be possible to check people's posting histories unless you're a mod >.> Anyone mind helping me out with that?
Also, PM me! I don't wanna sit here alone T.T. I will totally try and everything. I am currently in Taiwan, which is 1 hour ahead of Korean time, and I have Chinese classes/I have to study/I eat at places for most of the afternoons. Mornings (if I wake up) and evenings should all be completely fine though. GLHF all!
I agree that Batman killing the Joker is the ideal situation. However I would regard all 3rd party, including Batman, as anti-town. They constitute 3 extra KP each night which results in a faster lylo and less DT checks and clues. If we catch one they should be lynched. None of this 'Keep me alive and I'll help town' crap.
Given the size of the game and the heavy activity requirement there will be a lot of reading to do. There will certainly be people attempting to just pass with the bare minimum of posts. These people should be scrutinised intensly, and lynched if any clues point towards them.
Rumour has it that the colour of your blood these past few months has been undeniably red. I hope you have reformed from your scummy ways.
CreamyButter, a question for you if I may. Taking the setup into consideration, how would you propose to play as Mafia this game if you were indeed to receive such a role?
On July 18 2011 10:31 CreamyButter wrote: Yaaay I happened to check TL right when the day post went up! This is my first ever mafia game, so please bear with me while I try to figure things out. I read/skimmed/was confused by/scrolled aimlessly through Ver's epic guide, and from what I understand, it seems to be standard play to lynch the most inactive people? Though I guess that won't be apparent until a day from now, and with 5 posts each, "inactive" will have to be really relative D:
Another concept I saw browsing around some other games was a "zodiac list," which seemed to be somewhat effective (or at least not hurtful) and apparently is pretty much just a list of the best/most active players in the game. Unfortunately I don't really have a feel for who the good players are, and from what I can tell it doesn't seem to be possible to check people's posting histories unless you're a mod >.> Anyone mind helping me out with that?
Also, PM me! I don't wanna sit here alone T.T. I will totally try and everything. I am currently in Taiwan, which is 1 hour ahead of Korean time, and I have Chinese classes/I have to study/I eat at places for most of the afternoons. Mornings (if I wake up) and evenings should all be completely fine though. GLHF all!
I don't think the zodiac list necessarily benefits as much as people claim. If we use this idea we need to stick with it past day 1.
On July 18 2011 10:31 CreamyButter wrote: Yaaay I happened to check TL right when the day post went up! This is my first ever mafia game, so please bear with me while I try to figure things out. I read/skimmed/was confused by/scrolled aimlessly through Ver's epic guide, and from what I understand, it seems to be standard play to lynch the most inactive people? Though I guess that won't be apparent until a day from now, and with 5 posts each, "inactive" will have to be really relative D:
Another concept I saw browsing around some other games was a "zodiac list," which seemed to be somewhat effective (or at least not hurtful) and apparently is pretty much just a list of the best/most active players in the game. Unfortunately I don't really have a feel for who the good players are, and from what I can tell it doesn't seem to be possible to check people's posting histories unless you're a mod >.> Anyone mind helping me out with that?
Also, PM me! I don't wanna sit here alone T.T. I will totally try and everything. I am currently in Taiwan, which is 1 hour ahead of Korean time, and I have Chinese classes/I have to study/I eat at places for most of the afternoons. Mornings (if I wake up) and evenings should all be completely fine though. GLHF all!
I don't think the zodiac list necessarily benefits as much as people claim. If we use this idea we need to stick with it past day 1.
Yes, that's the point of the Zodiac list. It's also good just to get people talking on Day 1, as we don't just want one person to make a list, we want people to discuss it with actual reasoning. The last couple times people brought it up, they were always scum, so the list wasn't kept up past the first day, so it didn't actually create any pressure. If we want to try it this game, I'd be willing to help keep it updated and relevant. Basically, we just need everyone to agree to actually use it to pressure people. That means threatening to lynch people on the Zodiac List who are under performing or lurking, not just letting it slide.
If joker is killed, batman is removed as a winner, and ra'as removed as a loser. If batman is killed, ra'as leaves as a winner but joker remains. If just ra'as dies, no one else is removed.
If you clue analyse backing it up with some other form of analysis or evidence can help, but isn't necessary. If you see a clue don't be afraid to point it out.
Unless its like, x is a detective, then don't point it out lol. On the whole I think relying on clue analysis is pretty terrible though so i won't be basing any of my voting around some vague clue which could be pointing to 10 different people.
On July 18 2011 10:37 deconduo wrote: I agree that Batman killing the Joker is the ideal situation. However I would regard all 3rd party, including Batman, as anti-town. They constitute 3 extra KP each night which results in a faster lylo and less DT checks and clues. If we catch one they should be lynched. None of this 'Keep me alive and I'll help town' crap.
Given the size of the game and the heavy activity requirement there will be a lot of reading to do. There will certainly be people attempting to just pass with the bare minimum of posts. These people should be scrutinised intensly, and lynched if any clues point towards them.
Mhmm, if we catch them, we should lynch them. However, how can we catch them? The only ways I can see, are through just behavioural analysis, and also clue analysis. That's why I say, that if someone is acting like an SK, we might as well lynch them. However, SKs normally act like lurkers, or are scummy, from my experience. So, that means the batman should be shooting into lurkers and scummy people. On the flip-side though, Ra'al is going to be shooting into pro-town players, as Batman wants to try to look like a green, most likely.
The priority is:
joker>batman>ra'al
Because killing up the chain, removes the players below.
So, I guess you're right, that we should always kill third-parties, to remove their KP. However, the priority should be on the joker, as he will most likely appear scummiest, and also his death removes all third parties.
And regarding blacks I feel it is best to ignore them. Usually I don't really like lynching blacks, but since they all have 1kp a night and will be shooting into town I say if we find them we should be lynching them.
Im going to be treating all the black roles as serial killers.
On July 18 2011 10:37 deconduo wrote: I agree that Batman killing the Joker is the ideal situation. However I would regard all 3rd party, including Batman, as anti-town. They constitute 3 extra KP each night which results in a faster lylo and less DT checks and clues. If we catch one they should be lynched. None of this 'Keep me alive and I'll help town' crap.
Given the size of the game and the heavy activity requirement there will be a lot of reading to do. There will certainly be people attempting to just pass with the bare minimum of posts. These people should be scrutinised intensly, and lynched if any clues point towards them.
Mhmm, if we catch them, we should lynch them. However, how can we catch them? The only ways I can see, are through just behavioural analysis, and also clue analysis. That's why I say, that if someone is acting like an SK, we might as well lynch them. However, SKs normally act like lurkers, or are scummy, from my experience. So, that means the batman should be shooting into lurkers and scummy people. On the flip-side though, Ra'al is going to be shooting into pro-town players, as Batman wants to try to look like a green, most likely.
The priority is:
joker>batman>ra'al
Because killing up the chain, removes the players below.
So, I guess you're right, that we should always kill third-parties, to remove their KP. However, the priority should be on the joker, as he will most likely appear scummiest, and also his death removes all third parties.
I don't think there is much to discuss regarding sks. They are all anti town and should be lynched when possible.
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