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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 14:19:18
January 11 2012 13:47 GMT
#261
aaaahhh succession games, where you have a country with 99% compete chance and yet no traders, 0 inflation but an inflation reduction advisor : DDDDDD you guuuyyysss

fml, i fucked up some of the early screen shots in my turn, so the first bit might be lacking pictures a little Q_Q
3Form
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom389 Posts
January 11 2012 14:25 GMT
#262
On January 11 2012 22:47 turdburgler wrote:
aaaahhh succession games, where you have a country with 99% compete chance and yet no traders, 0 inflation but an inflation reduction advisor : DDDDDD you guuuyyysss

fml, i fucked up some of the early screen shots in my turn, so the first bit might be lacking pictures a little Q_Q


inflation reduction is for minting since we are so far ahead in tech was considering taking national bank just for more minting!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 11 2012 14:50 GMT
#263
On January 11 2012 13:24 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 07:58 Fruscainte wrote:
OH MY LORDY

DAT BRITTANY

UKRAINE HWAITING~


just popping in as somebody who has never played any of the games in this series - how historically faithful are they supposed to be? Ukraine did not exist even as the concept of a country at the time (1468), I am surprised to see it on the map!

Actually it did. They just did not have easy time forming a country at any time, mind You, normal Ukraine (not communist) was formed in 1991!
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 11 2012 15:09 GMT
#264
On January 11 2012 23:25 3Form wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 22:47 turdburgler wrote:
aaaahhh succession games, where you have a country with 99% compete chance and yet no traders, 0 inflation but an inflation reduction advisor : DDDDDD you guuuyyysss

fml, i fucked up some of the early screen shots in my turn, so the first bit might be lacking pictures a little Q_Q


inflation reduction is for minting since we are so far ahead in tech was considering taking national bank just for more minting!



ye i think im gonna go back to that, we have really good magistrate rate so im probably just gonna mint like crazy and build buildings : D
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11406 Posts
January 11 2012 15:09 GMT
#265
On January 11 2012 22:47 turdburgler wrote:
aaaahhh succession games, where you have a country with 99% compete chance and yet no traders, 0 inflation but an inflation reduction advisor : DDDDDD you guuuyyysss

fml, i fucked up some of the early screen shots in my turn, so the first bit might be lacking pictures a little Q_Q


How does that even happen? I had merchants on autosend to all CoTs, since our compete chances were already high enough to dominate them all even during my turn.

Regarding the inflation reduction advisor, that would be a pretty standard thing to find in my games. You can just mint about 15% all the time, while staying at 0 inflation, and thus not only have a lot of tech, but also have a lot of money. I find that having actual money is almost always better then having the same amount of ducats in pure tech, so this leaves you with a pretty good cash flow.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 15:23:47
January 11 2012 15:23 GMT
#266
i dont even know why : D i think most of our high compete chance cots are either embargoed, out of trade range, or closed to our traders. we are getting badly outplayed by portugal : D get first american core, build CoT recieve money. i warned of this like 20 pages back in the main thread Q_Q. getting to america first is like a gold mine, but we still dont have a port cored yet. my 1 distant oversees province, 0% income due to 0 ships : D


what are peoples opinions on expansion? do people want more vassals or more land?
3Form
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom389 Posts
January 11 2012 15:25 GMT
#267
On January 12 2012 00:23 turdburgler wrote:
i dont even know why : D i think most of our high compete chance cots are either embargoed, out of trade range, or closed to our traders. we are getting badly outplayed by portugal : D get first american core, build CoT recieve money. i warned of this like 20 pages back in the main thread Q_Q. getting to america first is like a gold mine, but we still dont have a port cored yet. my 1 distant oversees province, 0% income due to 0 ships : D


what are peoples opinions on expansion? do people want more vassals or more land?


The mission that I got as I handed over was to annex Ferrara, if we do that we should have a coastal core.

As for traders, I tried to keep monopolies in all the CoTs we were allowed in
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11406 Posts
January 11 2012 15:46 GMT
#268
I would say grab the rest of turkey if it is still muslim, you are our last holy warrior. I would avoid african stuff, we don't really need or want overseas provinces. Other than that, we should focus on the German/HRE area in my opinion, with the goals of either forming germany or uniting the HRE in an epic battle against France and Austria.

And seriously, Alsace is not really a colonising nation. I don't thing we should even care about the americas at all. Europe is where it's at, and we are not really in any sort of rivalry with them. As long as we are nice to the colonisers, and they allow us to trade in their CoTs (or we beat them up and force them to) we can take our share of the colonising money without doing any colonising ourselves.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 18:01:23
January 11 2012 15:51 GMT
#269
i dont care about america, i care about money! ;p

btw ferrara mission doesnt give a port because you gain the core after taking it. have to build it myself

just gonna apologise beforehand for 2 things. 1 the wars i fought were really boring. only against minors and people 10 tech levels below me, herp derp war over in 10 seconds.

and secondly the new player gets to start the game with 6 infamy and at war with 3 countries, one of those situations where you cant reach them and they cant reach you and you are just waiting for white peace, not a big deal but after getting handed the game with a clean sheet as far as war goes i feel bad putting the next player in a non perfect start.

on the plus side we lose 1.5 infamy a year and are only 2 techs from being able to take cabinet.

oh and i took trakai off of lithuania with the plan to sell it to prussia for moneys but i got stuck at war till the end of my go, but if the next player wants to keep it i dont mind :D
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 18:20:17
January 11 2012 18:17 GMT
#270
The year was 1629, the king of Alsace, Armand I, sat on the throne of a nation with lands scattered across all of Europe. He desired to join his lands together, to make a mighty nation that would rival the power of the French and Austrian kings. Although he enjoyed good relations with both, they guaranteed the independence of so many minor nations that it was impossible for Armand to bring the weaker nations into his sphere of influence.

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And so his attentions turned to the near east. Land once owned by the powerful Ottoman empire had since been conquered by Holy crusaders, fighting in the lords name to bring enlightenment to the region. Armand held control over the central lands of turkey, with the heathens to the east, and the Spanish to the west. Although the leaders of Alsace had renounced their position as part of the church, it was still important for the country to spread the good word across the world, whenever possible.

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The backward heathen armies of the region held out for a mere few weeks before being forced to concede lands to the one true God.

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As the glorious Alsatian armies marched home, they were once again called on to spread the word of the lord. Heretics in southern Italy and Greece could no longer be tolerated. The risk of their teachings reaching Alsatian lands could not be taken, these minor countries would feel the full wrath of God!

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After these easy victories, the armies serving under Armand were infamous throughout all of Europe. Although they had been spreading the good word, there was talking of bullying minor nations and starting unnecessary wars abroad. To ease the fears of his European friends Armand decided to change his course for the upcoming decade, he would reduce spending on the military and instead channel more funds to building up glorious buildings and roads throughout his kingdom. He would prove to the world that those who defended the lord were aptly rewarded!

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Years passed, and once again Armand felt the call of God, telling him to further the reach of the lord to the east. Although the lands there were rich with foreign goods, Armand had no navy with which to transport these goods back to Alsatian land in Europe. These lands would be costly to maintain, but they must be rescued from the evil Muslim sultans as the Lord had requested of him. Armand hatched a plan to put a puppet Christian king on the thrown of the lands he would conquer, this would stop him having to worry about the cost of ruling over such distant land without leaving the call of God unanswered.

Once again God's divine power cleared the way for the Alsatian armies, with almost no resistance it was mere months before a new Christian king had been crowned over the new lands of Georgia!

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As Armand watched the world go by, he knew it was just a matter of time before he would be able to expand his influence again.

Then in 1645 his chance presented itself, the mighty powers of Austria and England were at war. Although the Austrians outnumbered the English by a hundred thousand men, the English navy was an immovable object between the two nations. The Austrian nerve broke first, with the country exhausted from war, they gave concessions to the English, giving up their power over two minor European provinces, which the English hoped to bring into their control at a later date. But Armand had been waiting for just an opportunity, and although some minor European powers and the broken English came to the defense of these young nations their armies were swiftly stomped out by the army of God fighting under Armand

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sorry again for the short write up. still too busy to dedicate too much time to playing atm
and ive sent the PM to ramong to play next


UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 20:29:03
January 11 2012 20:14 GMT
#271
On January 11 2012 23:50 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 13:24 UniversalSnip wrote:
On December 17 2011 07:58 Fruscainte wrote:
OH MY LORDY

DAT BRITTANY

UKRAINE HWAITING~


just popping in as somebody who has never played any of the games in this series - how historically faithful are they supposed to be? Ukraine did not exist even as the concept of a country at the time (1468), I am surprised to see it on the map!

Actually it did. They just did not have easy time forming a country at any time, mind You, normal Ukraine (not communist) was formed in 1991!

i don't want to sidetrack your thread so i won't argue about this, especially since i might be misremembering some of it, but i know some ukranian history (euro history as a whole not at all) and after the days of the kievan rus ukraine spent almost all of the time up until about ww i divided between russia and european countries like the polish-lithuanian commonwealth. It was basically considered a piece of russia some of which was in european hands, and the ukranian speakers were thought of as 'little russians'. The idea of ukraine as an actual country rather than simply an ethnic group didn't arise until i believe the 1700s? And didn't get any traction at all until the 1800s in the galicia region under the hapsburg empire, which had relatively free expression and actually actively promoted the idea for byzantine political reasons i can't remember. So the inclusion of ukraine in 1468 surprised me. I was hoping reading the reports would show me some alternate universe euro history, and i'd get some real history from that as im pretty ignorant about most of the continent, but if it doesn't start out letter perfect i'll just read for the entertainment.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11406 Posts
January 11 2012 22:54 GMT
#272
On January 12 2012 05:14 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 23:50 Kurumi wrote:
On January 11 2012 13:24 UniversalSnip wrote:
On December 17 2011 07:58 Fruscainte wrote:
OH MY LORDY

DAT BRITTANY

UKRAINE HWAITING~


just popping in as somebody who has never played any of the games in this series - how historically faithful are they supposed to be? Ukraine did not exist even as the concept of a country at the time (1468), I am surprised to see it on the map!

Actually it did. They just did not have easy time forming a country at any time, mind You, normal Ukraine (not communist) was formed in 1991!

i don't want to sidetrack your thread so i won't argue about this, especially since i might be misremembering some of it, but i know some ukranian history (euro history as a whole not at all) and after the days of the kievan rus ukraine spent almost all of the time up until about ww i divided between russia and european countries like the polish-lithuanian commonwealth. It was basically considered a piece of russia some of which was in european hands, and the ukranian speakers were thought of as 'little russians'. The idea of ukraine as an actual country rather than simply an ethnic group didn't arise until i believe the 1700s? And didn't get any traction at all until the 1800s in the galicia region under the hapsburg empire, which had relatively free expression and actually actively promoted the idea for byzantine political reasons i can't remember. So the inclusion of ukraine in 1468 surprised me. I was hoping reading the reports would show me some alternate universe euro history, and i'd get some real history from that as im pretty ignorant about most of the continent, but if it doesn't start out letter perfect i'll just read for the entertainment.


It starts out pretty accurate, however the mechanics that spawn new countries are usually not depending on date. I think the Ukraine does not have any cores in the 1399 start. But if specific revolters in that region are successful, the Ukraine pops up. Which is quite logical, since if there is a power vacuum in that area, why shouldn't the local ethnicity decide that they want to govern themselves?

Basically, as far as i know, the start date is at least in europe pretty close to history, but very soon afterwards, stuff tends to get wacky. I don't know how good Eu3 is as an actual alternate history simulator.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 01:30:16
January 12 2012 01:26 GMT
#273
The whole point of Eu3 is to rewrite history, so yeah, fuck accuracy gogo become Emperor with Ethiopia!

Also, in remembrance of Fruiscante I played a Berry game (he posted about crushing France with Bar) and killed of France and Castille by 1580 ... nothing says owned like "you lost against Berry".

Nice job on the latest AAR.
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
January 12 2012 01:28 GMT
#274
Ukraine starts with cores in HTTT, its not "historically accurate" but I guess its the best they could do in the engine. Ukraine usually only gets formed as part of a peace traty and swallowed again after a few months, so its rarely in the game for longer periods of time.

Back to the succession. Nice writeup, could we get a map of the world and of Alsatian holdings too? I would really like to see how possible it is to unite the germans atm.
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Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
January 12 2012 01:34 GMT
#275
Judging from the starting screenshot I'd say Germany is at least 80 years away, with luck. You need cores on northern and western Germany (Thuringia, Saxony, Brandenburg etc.) so even if you get good missions for vassalizing/integrating this takes a lot of time as you can only diplo annex every so often.
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3Form
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom389 Posts
January 12 2012 12:40 GMT
#276
On January 12 2012 10:34 Monsen wrote:
Judging from the starting screenshot I'd say Germany is at least 80 years away, with luck. You need cores on northern and western Germany (Thuringia, Saxony, Brandenburg etc.) so even if you get good missions for vassalizing/integrating this takes a lot of time as you can only diplo annex every so often.


I diplo-annexed Brandenburg and Saxony, but it only gave cores on Meissen and Niederlausitz(sp?), rather than Brandeburg and Leipzig. So I released them again, minus the cored provinces. Which wasn't ideal really. I think we're just going to have to eat the unlawful penalty for a while.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 12 2012 13:14 GMT
#277
On January 12 2012 10:28 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Ukraine starts with cores in HTTT, its not "historically accurate" but I guess its the best they could do in the engine. Ukraine usually only gets formed as part of a peace traty and swallowed again after a few months, so its rarely in the game for longer periods of time.

Back to the succession. Nice writeup, could we get a map of the world and of Alsatian holdings too? I would really like to see how possible it is to unite the germans atm.


northern europe didnt change since 3forms screenshot
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11406 Posts
January 12 2012 22:33 GMT
#278
Hm. Has someone got an response from Ramong as to whether he is playing or not?
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 12 2012 22:37 GMT
#279
nope, but he has been replying in atleast 1 of the eu3 threads at a time after i sent the game to him so he hasnt died or anything
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
January 12 2012 22:45 GMT
#280
sorry, missed the PM!

I will take my turn and make an AAR tomorrow
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