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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 21 2012 02:53 GMT
#221
IF I WAS ILLITERATE HOW COULD I BE WRITING THIS POST.

HAH GOT YOU THERE HAVEN'T I.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 21 2012 02:55 GMT
#222
On February 21 2012 11:53 redFF wrote:
IF I WAS ILLITERATE HOW COULD I BE WRITING THIS POST.

HAH GOT YOU THERE HAVEN'T I.


read again noob
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 21 2012 02:56 GMT
#223
On February 21 2012 11:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 11:50 redFF wrote:
Ace is a cunt and not in this game, stop riding his dick and play.


and yet hes better than you in near every way. What does that say about you?

him being a cunt has nothing to do with his skill at mafia.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 21 2012 02:59 GMT
#224
On February 21 2012 11:56 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 11:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:50 redFF wrote:
Ace is a cunt and not in this game, stop riding his dick and play.


and yet hes better than you in near every way. What does that say about you?

him being a cunt has nothing to do with his skill at mafia.


I was more referencing the fact your behaving worse than he normally does (he is better than you). As you are being a total douche canoe yet don't carry the level of skill or better than him I was referencing that you were deserving of a far lower and baser title.

I am free to let others pick for you as I simply switch to different and more entertaining terms. Now, shall we play instead of focusing on how fun it is that you play in the shallow end of the sandbox all alone.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 21 2012 02:59 GMT
#225
On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Dear redFF and WBG
You both suck.
Sincerely,
Jackal58


I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane.

Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles.

Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned.

as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row.


/salute

What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 21 2012 03:03 GMT
#226
On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Dear redFF and WBG
You both suck.
Sincerely,
Jackal58


I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane.

Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles.

Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned.

as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row.


/salute

What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it.


Honestly I think he may be suffering from something like a bat to the back of the head. That or a level of arrogance unseen since showtime. As it stands now short of recommending a terrible idea and being a retarded troll (which is a smiteworthy offense if he keeps it up) I see him more as someone to mock / ignore than take seriously. I know I am moderately guilty of this via my last few posts, however anyone continuing the trend of useless discussion / just trading insults with redff are most likely not playing with town interests in heart. There are a few players already guilty of this obviously.

I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 21 2012 03:03 GMT
#227
On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Dear redFF and WBG
You both suck.
Sincerely,
Jackal58


I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane.

Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles.

Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned.

as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row.


/salute

What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it.


well, that's certainly a revelation....redFF being bad??! Just...the thought of it...unbelievable!

On February 21 2012 11:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 11:56 redFF wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:50 redFF wrote:
Ace is a cunt and not in this game, stop riding his dick and play.


and yet hes better than you in near every way. What does that say about you?

him being a cunt has nothing to do with his skill at mafia.


I was more referencing the fact your behaving worse than he normally does (he is better than you). As you are being a total douche canoe yet don't carry the level of skill or better than him I was referencing that you were deserving of a far lower and baser title.

I am free to let others pick for you as I simply switch to different and more entertaining terms. Now, shall we play instead of focusing on how fun it is that you play in the shallow end of the sandbox all alone.

This is totally relevant


redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 21 2012 03:04 GMT
#228
heh, I like being called a douche canoe, read my filter and tell me where i stopped being civil, i'm fairly sure its just after wbg came in and called me bad and stupid, in fact I think that's when the whole thread turned to shit!

What a coincidence.

Back to scumhunting, what do people think of my thoughts on kita, or are we all ignoring it because I'm bad.

Ve is probable town, the people that hopped on my wagon after him and drh likely have at least 1 scum in there, so chaoser/kita/bh.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 21 2012 03:04 GMT
#229
If you notice though, that specific quote from Ace was towards the players of that game ASKING others for their LIST of town (and scum) reads in a no flip game.

It was basically a game that was easy to manipulate and a situation where EVERYONE was giving out reads like woah.

That is different from this case because it is only me giving my read. So if mafia wants, they can try to manipulate me and that's about it.

Your votes can't criss cross your Town reads or you'll be called out by any decent Scum reading the thread. You shouldn't give your Town reads early because the Mafia can see what players don't have strong support, leading to the easy sheepish behavior by the Town to lynch the person with the least friends.


I don't really see a problem because I don't plan to criss cross my reads with my votes (why would a townie need to do this) without explaining my change in reads first. The second point, again, doesn't matter since it's only my read and so mafia really can't tell who has "Strong" support or not.

Either way, there are ways for mafia to gauge "support" aside from seeing people's town reads. Just by looking at voting threads, one can usually deduce who is being supported and who isn't.

So that quote doesn't apply to this situation at all.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 21 2012 03:06 GMT
#230
Actually bc I'm kind of pissed you're calling me the troll when any personal flaming/animosity started with wbg's first posts of the game, everything I've said has been a response to that. Before that I was being perfectly civil, maybe bad and stupid, but not a dick.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 03:07:53
February 21 2012 03:07 GMT
#231
On February 21 2012 11:50 redFF wrote:
Ace is a cunt and not in this game, stop riding his dick and play.

Calling anyone a cunt on tl is totally unacceptable. I don't care that its a game.
Moderator
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 21 2012 03:08 GMT
#232
I'm just gonna keep drinking.

Oh and Toad is scum.
I think I said that before but wtf do I know? I'm ready to be put out to pasture.
Life can only kill you once.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 21 2012 03:09 GMT
#233
On February 21 2012 12:06 redFF wrote:
Actually bc I'm kind of pissed you're calling me the troll when any personal flaming/animosity started with wbg's first posts of the game, everything I've said has been a response to that. Before that I was being perfectly civil, maybe bad and stupid, but not a dick.


Trolls aren't always flaming asshats.

I find that the way you continued talking about policy lynching troll like. The continuing of posts between you and wbg (screams troll from both of you) is bad. I am moderately guilty as well, but as someone who has played with ace for years and as he is not in this game it is moderately disrespectful to trash him. You also said things I viewed as bad

Pushing what I will view as bad agendas or bad forms of play is something I near always comment on.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 21 2012 03:09 GMT
#234
On February 21 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Dear redFF and WBG
You both suck.
Sincerely,
Jackal58


I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane.

Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles.

Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned.

as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row.


/salute

What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it.


Honestly I think he may be suffering from something like a bat to the back of the head. That or a level of arrogance unseen since showtime. As it stands now short of recommending a terrible idea and being a retarded troll (which is a smiteworthy offense if he keeps it up) I see him more as someone to mock / ignore than take seriously. I know I am moderately guilty of this via my last few posts, however anyone continuing the trend of useless discussion / just trading insults with redff are most likely not playing with town interests in heart. There are a few players already guilty of this obviously.

I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better.


Come on guy....COME ON. You know what I'm asking. Do you think he's scum?

Also, I thought we were well beyond policy-discussion - I've put forth a scum-candidate and several people have joined the wagon (with little to no reasoning)....and some (and by some I mean WBG) have even gone on to defend him - citing meta resources that point to badTownRedFF. I mean, did you miss all this in reading? Why are you trying to color this all as policy discussion? What's up yo?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 21 2012 03:09 GMT
#235
On February 21 2012 12:04 chaoser wrote:
If you notice though, that specific quote from Ace was towards the players of that game ASKING others for their LIST of town (and scum) reads in a no flip game.

It was basically a game that was easy to manipulate and a situation where EVERYONE was giving out reads like woah.

That is different from this case because it is only me giving my read. So if mafia wants, they can try to manipulate me and that's about it.

Show nested quote +
Your votes can't criss cross your Town reads or you'll be called out by any decent Scum reading the thread. You shouldn't give your Town reads early because the Mafia can see what players don't have strong support, leading to the easy sheepish behavior by the Town to lynch the person with the least friends.


I don't really see a problem because I don't plan to criss cross my reads with my votes (why would a townie need to do this) without explaining my change in reads first. The second point, again, doesn't matter since it's only my read and so mafia really can't tell who has "Strong" support or not.

Either way, there are ways for mafia to gauge "support" aside from seeing people's town reads. Just by looking at voting threads, one can usually deduce who is being supported and who isn't.

So that quote doesn't apply to this situation at all.


Ace's opinion is completely relevant here because the person with the least support = redFF and he's getting bandwagoned to fuck

as much as I love to call him terrible, if he actually is town no one is going to defend him anyway and so you have no idea whether or not we're actually doing a good thing here.

Imagine VE being scum and you just called him town. You give him credence and reliability if he's scum. If he actually is town we don't actually gain anything except an opinion of yours, that, if you are town, can be manipulated. Certainly it's manipulable regardless of VE's real alignment.

If I'm not being clear enough: If I were scum, I'd love for people to do what town-Ace hates.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 21 2012 03:12 GMT
#236
If i made you think i was town doesn't that make me good town?
/food for thought

2 players have been on the 2 major wagons of early day 1, chaoser and kita. Betting there's one scum in there.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 21 2012 03:14 GMT
#237
On February 21 2012 12:12 redFF wrote:
If i made you think i was town doesn't that make me good town?
/food for thought

2 players have been on the 2 major wagons of early day 1, chaoser and kita. Betting there's one scum in there.


Are you talking to me?

Bad news for you: Nothing you've done has made me think you're town.

Good news for you; Nothing you've done has made me think you're scum.

Bad news for you: Everything you've done so far has made me think you're bad.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 21 2012 03:14 GMT
#238
talking to ve
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 21 2012 03:15 GMT
#239
On February 21 2012 12:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Dear redFF and WBG
You both suck.
Sincerely,
Jackal58


I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane.

Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles.

Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned.

as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row.


/salute

What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it.


Honestly I think he may be suffering from something like a bat to the back of the head. That or a level of arrogance unseen since showtime. As it stands now short of recommending a terrible idea and being a retarded troll (which is a smiteworthy offense if he keeps it up) I see him more as someone to mock / ignore than take seriously. I know I am moderately guilty of this via my last few posts, however anyone continuing the trend of useless discussion / just trading insults with redff are most likely not playing with town interests in heart. There are a few players already guilty of this obviously.

I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better.


Come on guy....COME ON. You know what I'm asking. Do you think he's scum?

Also, I thought we were well beyond policy-discussion - I've put forth a scum-candidate and several people have joined the wagon (with little to no reasoning)....and some (and by some I mean WBG) have even gone on to defend him - citing meta resources that point to badTownRedFF. I mean, did you miss all this in reading? Why are you trying to color this all as policy discussion? What's up yo?


its what? 5 hours into the day? I would like to believe redff isn't this horrendous as scum to be caught this quickly. However that is wifom with someone of his experience. The only read I have on him as of now is Bad. Bad town or bad mafia. Hell, I think chaoser is also bad for defending posting town reads as a viable move at this stage in the game. It is only at all useful if people are posting clear scum reads along with clear town reads to make them fully accountable rather than "contributing" without doing much.

As for coloring it up to policy discussion, the main point you first raised (I will re-read to see what your entire argument is in exact detail so i stress the first point i saw) was his push on tyrran via policy of being bad. Factor in the mass level of general annoyance with him via his recent behaviour outside of game it is not outside the realms of possibility people are "policy" pushing him based on him being a total wad.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 21 2012 03:16 GMT
#240
On February 21 2012 12:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 12:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 21 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Dear redFF and WBG
You both suck.
Sincerely,
Jackal58


I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane.

Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles.

Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned.

as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row.


/salute

What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it.


Honestly I think he may be suffering from something like a bat to the back of the head. That or a level of arrogance unseen since showtime. As it stands now short of recommending a terrible idea and being a retarded troll (which is a smiteworthy offense if he keeps it up) I see him more as someone to mock / ignore than take seriously. I know I am moderately guilty of this via my last few posts, however anyone continuing the trend of useless discussion / just trading insults with redff are most likely not playing with town interests in heart. There are a few players already guilty of this obviously.

I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better.


Come on guy....COME ON. You know what I'm asking. Do you think he's scum?

Also, I thought we were well beyond policy-discussion - I've put forth a scum-candidate and several people have joined the wagon (with little to no reasoning)....and some (and by some I mean WBG) have even gone on to defend him - citing meta resources that point to badTownRedFF. I mean, did you miss all this in reading? Why are you trying to color this all as policy discussion? What's up yo?


its what? 5 hours into the day? I would like to believe redff isn't this horrendous as scum to be caught this quickly. However that is wifom with someone of his experience. The only read I have on him as of now is Bad. Bad town or bad mafia. Hell, I think chaoser is also bad for defending posting town reads as a viable move at this stage in the game. It is only at all useful if people are posting clear scum reads along with clear town reads to make them fully accountable rather than "contributing" without doing much.

As for coloring it up to policy discussion, the main point you first raised (I will re-read to see what your entire argument is in exact detail so i stress the first point i saw) was his push on tyrran via policy of being bad. Factor in the mass level of general annoyance with him via his recent behaviour outside of game it is not outside the realms of possibility people are "policy" pushing him based on him being a total wad.


Okay BC, we're in agreement on two things:

redFF is playing badly
chaoser is playng badly.

Now tell us kindly, what does that imply about these two players?

Easy answers bro.
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