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Skiinz19
Profile Joined February 2012
3 Posts
February 28 2012 05:31 GMT
#381
On February 28 2012 14:30 imakeitreign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 14:28 Skiinz19 wrote:
You people won't be happy until hes crucified and fired from his job and SC2 all together...It's amazing how you people act attempt to ruin this man's life. What did he ACTUALLY do? Jokingly said a few lines towards Dragon who hasn't reacted in the slightest. He's been reading his stream and sees whats what.



You read our minds, kudos to you.
Kudos is too close to Katu...My eyes BURN!!! :D
Psylence
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 05:42:42
February 28 2012 05:32 GMT
#382
As a caster for the Playhem Daily, I can say that everyone at Playhem treats each player with the utmost respect. Katu had an oversight with his comments and it was unfortunate.

We do not disrepect players at all

Unfortunately Katu just took it a little too far this time.

Please do not let this reflect on the rest of us casters and please forgive Katu for his obvious misstep.
justin.tv/thepsylence
imakeitreign
Profile Joined January 2012
United States11 Posts
February 28 2012 05:33 GMT
#383
On February 28 2012 14:32 Psylence wrote:
As a caster for the Playhem Daily, I can say that everyone at Playhem treats each player with the utmost respect. Katu has disappointed me incredibly with his lack of respect. This is not what Playhem is about at all.

There is a certain point where you make a joke but continuing something so silly saddens me greatly. Unfortunately Katu just took it a little too far this time.

Please do not let this reflect on the rest of us casters and please forgive Katu for his obvious misstep.



+1
JiN-Psi
Profile Joined December 2011
United States13 Posts
February 28 2012 05:33 GMT
#384
Playhem just needs to reconsider who they get on cast and TL needs to close this thread/Lock it.
BEASTMODE7
Profile Joined November 2011
United States7 Posts
February 28 2012 05:33 GMT
#385
On February 28 2012 14:33 imakeitreign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 14:32 Psylence wrote:
As a caster for the Playhem Daily, I can say that everyone at Playhem treats each player with the utmost respect. Katu has disappointed me incredibly with his lack of respect. This is not what Playhem is about at all.

There is a certain point where you make a joke but continuing something so silly saddens me greatly. Unfortunately Katu just took it a little too far this time.

Please do not let this reflect on the rest of us casters and please forgive Katu for his obvious misstep.



+1


+2
coldplate
Profile Joined January 2012
7 Posts
February 28 2012 05:33 GMT
#386
On February 28 2012 14:32 Psylence wrote:
As a caster for the Playhem Daily, I can say that everyone at Playhem treats each player with the utmost respect. Katu has disappointed me incredibly with his lack of respect. This is not what Playhem is about at all.

There is a certain point where you make a joke but continuing something so silly saddens me greatly. Unfortunately Katu just took it a little too far this time.

Please do not let this reflect on the rest of us casters and please forgive Katu for his obvious misstep.


i'm sure many of us would request a sincere apology from katu to dragon himself
DeVx
Profile Joined September 2011
United States98 Posts
February 28 2012 05:34 GMT
#387
On February 28 2012 14:28 Skiinz19 wrote:
You people won't be happy until hes crucified and fired from his job and SC2 all together...It's amazing how you people act attempt to ruin this man's life. What did he ACTUALLY do? Jokingly said a few lines towards Dragon who hasn't reacted in the slightest. He's been reading his stream and sees whats what.



If this his job he should treat it like that, A JOB. If he's going to scrutinize players and then BM the fans, yea he should be fired from Playhem no doubt about it.

If he truly enjoyed what he's doing, he wouldn't have done it in the first place. He should of thought of his actions before saying the BS that came from his mouth.
MythZero
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)102 Posts
February 28 2012 05:34 GMT
#388
Katu at least shouldn't be able to cast Playhem anymore, I'm really disappointed of his behavior tonight.
Dark.Set
Profile Joined February 2012
United States3 Posts
February 28 2012 05:34 GMT
#389
Was watching the stream and decided to make an account here in response to Katu. First playhem I watched and probably the last. Unprofessional, saying dragon was stream cheating ? We could see that was 100% false since Dragon was streaming during the tournament. Then Katu starts laughing at the outraged chat rather than admitting he's wrong and apologizing? Seriously? I don't know where you found this guy but he is completely ridiculous. What a shame.
aogmxctm
Profile Joined September 2010
64 Posts
February 28 2012 05:35 GMT
#390
katu getting trolled so hard right now
Lanceypooh
Profile Joined February 2012
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 05:36:42
February 28 2012 05:36 GMT
#391
Not gonna watch anymore with him casting... Casters cannot pick sides and have bad manners towards players they are casting for.. I dont think this was trolling. Just being rude.
No comment.
Tr3v1001
Profile Joined February 2012
4 Posts
February 28 2012 05:36 GMT
#392
I think Katu was forced to apologize, it was done forcefully
vvv
Profile Joined October 2011
13 Posts
February 28 2012 05:37 GMT
#393
You can't just accuse someone of stream cheating publicly without some kind of proof. Especially with Dragon's past, that's the kind of thing that can cause durable damage to his reputation. Completely unacceptable in my opinion.

It is especially infuriating that after the chat started raging (for good reason), he went on to say he got a kick out of it and trolled some more to fuel the fire.
MedallionEchelon
Profile Joined December 2011
United States4 Posts
February 28 2012 05:37 GMT
#394
Viewership is a portion of PlayhemTV's income. When a caster (Katu) is taunting the viewers, it hurts the reputation of the PlayhemTV company. There are people who will now never watch PlayhemTV because of the taunting and disrespect.
Antiks_
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada2 Posts
February 28 2012 05:43 GMT
#395
It was pretty poor form. I haven't seen someone go off like that about someone on a stream before least of all a somewhat "professional" cast. Then trolling or hating on the viewers and laughing at them... Apology was quite insincere.
imakeitreign
Profile Joined January 2012
United States11 Posts
February 28 2012 05:45 GMT
#396
Okay guys, here are the facts:

Dragon Stream Viewers > PlayemTV

Dragon will beat Katu anyday in sc2 even if Katu was watching Dragon's stream

Enough said.
MedallionEchelon
Profile Joined December 2011
United States4 Posts
February 28 2012 05:46 GMT
#397
On February 28 2012 14:43 Antiks_ wrote:
It was pretty poor form. I haven't seen someone go off like that about someone on a stream before least of all a somewhat "professional" cast. Then trolling or hating on the viewers and laughing at them... Apology was quite insincere.


Exactly it was never an apology, it was an "I'm sorry you guys took it this way" not "Im sorry for my actions."
Myde
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany4 Posts
February 28 2012 05:51 GMT
#398
On February 28 2012 14:25 deathgod6 wrote:
These casters are so unprofessional. On Dragon's stream, he was clearly lagging badly. However, he did not ask for pause or say anything and tried to calm himself saying it was okay. He was just making the best of the situation and was too proud or maybe unclear whether it was okay to ask for spectators to leave or whatever. Viewers of Dragon's stream then were saying on Playhem's chat that Dragon was lagging.

Upon reading this, Katu says "Yah, he lost apparently because of lag, not because of building three CC's against a roach all-in. *snickers* Even if he did lag, and I'm not implying stream cheating, what are reasons he would lag?" Katu later goes on and just blatantly implies that Dragon was stream cheating and using his past history as evidence, even though the build Dragon did during the game wouldn't make any sense if he was. I don't want to say any specific names, but there are other professional SC2 players currently who have a history with cheating but have fixed their ways and are revered players.

Katu then forgets about actually casting the second game and reads the chat instead, laughing at how angry people are at how he trashed Dragon. Then he mockingly says that he might as well officially state that Dragon is stream cheating. He then laughs during the cast and types in the Playhem.tv chat strings of "HAHAHAHA". He finds that his ego is more important than acting like a professional caster.

As a long time member of TL, I find that this episode of casting is extremely disrespectful and childish.


That just perfectly sums it up...
“I love sleep. My life has the tendency to fall apart when I'm awake, you know?” - Ernest Hemingway
retardstrong
Profile Joined December 2010
United States46 Posts
February 28 2012 05:59 GMT
#399
This was the first and only time I will ever watch this stream. I pop into Dragon's stream every now and then and saw him competing in this tournament tonight. Watching any player compete in these tournaments from their point of view is always entertaining especially because of the amount of games they need to win to get 1st place. Once he reached the semi final and people in his chat said that the games were being cast I thought "oh cool I'll watch both". Right after the game starts one of the casters says the zerg is his teammate. The casters seemed fairly biased against Dragon. I was fine with it up until it started getting annoying to the point where I was thinking "Ok guys the zerg player is also making some mistakes and is actually behind right now.". Then one of the casters started laughing at the chat raging at him which is when I turned off the stream.

It's fine if he was biased for his teammate but poking fun at the chat players raging seemed uncalled for. I understand that it's not the most watched tournament but the casters have to know that dragon has a decent sized fan base (he had more viewers than the tournament stream) and shouldn't taunt his fans.

It wasn't really offensive or anything but it was just a "wtf" moment for me watching this stream and is why I wont watch it again.
"Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick."
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 28 2012 05:59 GMT
#400
On February 28 2012 14:25 deathgod6 wrote:
These casters are so unprofessional. On Dragon's stream, he was clearly lagging badly. However, he did not ask for pause or say anything and tried to calm himself saying it was okay. He was just making the best of the situation and was too proud or maybe unclear whether it was okay to ask for spectators to leave or whatever. Viewers of Dragon's stream then were saying on Playhem's chat that Dragon was lagging.

Upon reading this, Katu says "Yah, he lost apparently because of lag, not because of building three CC's against a roach all-in. *snickers* Even if he did lag, and I'm not implying stream cheating, what are reasons he would lag?" Katu later goes on and just blatantly implies that Dragon was stream cheating and using his past history as evidence, even though the build Dragon did during the game wouldn't make any sense if he was. I don't want to say any specific names, but there are other professional SC2 players currently who have a history with cheating but have fixed their ways and are revered players.

Katu then forgets about actually casting the second game and reads the chat instead, laughing at how angry people are at how he trashed Dragon. Then he mockingly says that he might as well officially state that Dragon is stream cheating. He then laughs during the cast and types in the Playhem.tv chat strings of "HAHAHAHA". He finds that his ego is more important than acting like a professional caster.

As a long time member of TL, I find that this episode of casting is extremely disrespectful and childish.

When a player is suffering from lag while streaming their play, why is it the caster's responsibility to glance at chat (a common place for people to state facts such as "Day[9] Died") and then pause the game? In any other tournament environment (the standard everyone is currently upholding Katu to) it is the player's responsibility to request pauses.

Also, I don't think calling for Katu to kill himself, or to be killed, etc. is the proper way to go about solving this issue. Something this event has proven is that Dragon has a huge portion of very immature fans (something I think to be brought about by the nature of his play). Furthermore, Playhem is currently streaming another show which is being completely derailed by Dragon's fans. If you want to accuse someone of unprofessional-ism, try to do it in a professional way.

As someone who employs Katu for multiple events, I have spoken to him and warned him that anything like that is completely unacceptable in my events. However, I will not be suspending his casting for any of my events as he is, despite one moment of rash behavior, one of the best casters around. I think something people need to realize that everyone makes mistakes and overall, Katu is still a great caster.
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