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astral96
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2 Posts
July 17 2011 17:38 GMT
#281
THIS IS THE BEST STREAMMMM :D <3
astral96
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2 Posts
July 17 2011 17:40 GMT
#282
What is the build u normaly do in PvT ??
DocTheMedic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States79 Posts
July 17 2011 17:42 GMT
#283
Commenting on the stream, Desrow is likely to be far better than you anyways, an he comments on his games afterwards, so you get a bit of strategy watching his games. His chat is friendly, and he regularly reads and responds to it. Even as a terran player, I'd recommend his stream.
Rykros
Profile Joined May 2011
483 Posts
July 17 2011 17:43 GMT
#284
Really like ur stream and watch to learn .... i have been using phoenix opening lately vs terran but i dont see any1 else using it ... i want to know what counters phoenix like phoenix stop hellion blue flame drops banshees or early marine drop but still nobody uses at high level sc2 tourneys , streams. low masters protoss. and yeah i only 4 gate in pvp coz i dont know anything else ... is it ok to just do 4 gate all time?
-Pink-
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2 Posts
July 17 2011 17:43 GMT
#285
Thank for the stream! <3
ExorArgus
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada46 Posts
July 17 2011 17:48 GMT
#286
Desrow, I asked you this on your stream and you directed me here and my question is how do you deal with infestors. They are the only unit in the unit in the game i have no idea how do deal with. People say herp derp feed back, except when a zerg is watching their army (which they should be doing when they have an infestor army) they can easily fungle your HTs before you are able to feed back because they have the same range BUT fungle have a radius of 2 so it can hit units 11 units away. So if HTs cant do it, colossus are my next thought. The problem is that with the increase of the use of neural, the zerg will 99% of the time have equal or more infestors to the number of colossus, they steal your colossus kill your units then you are done. My next thought is DT's but again if the zerg is watching their army they fungle your DT's before they can do anything. Just looking for ideas, correct me if i have made any incorrect statements. Im just a lost plat toss looking for some info.
Some people tell me Protoss is OP, Zerg can have over 200 supply, terrans can have kill their SCV and use mules. I hate probes.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 18:27:53
July 17 2011 18:21 GMT
#287
On July 18 2011 02:40 astral96 wrote:
What is the build u normaly do in PvT ??


2gate robo or 3gate both with an expand

On July 18 2011 02:43 Rykros wrote:
Really like ur stream and watch to learn .... i have been using phoenix opening lately vs terran but i dont see any1 else using it ... i want to know what counters phoenix like phoenix stop hellion blue flame drops banshees or early marine drop but still nobody uses at high level sc2 tourneys , streams. low masters protoss. and yeah i only 4 gate in pvp coz i dont know anything else ... is it ok to just do 4 gate all time?


2phoenix is 1 collosus in ressources just think about that it makes it hard to hold bio push if you plan on expending

pvp go for 1base collosus or 3gate robo blink and take a hidden expo the 2nd option is the best way to play the matchup in my opinion.

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On July 18 2011 02:48 ExorArgus wrote:
Desrow, I asked you this on your stream and you directed me here and my question is how do you deal with infestors. They are the only unit in the unit in the game i have no idea how do deal with. People say herp derp feed back, except when a zerg is watching their army (which they should be doing when they have an infestor army) they can easily fungle your HTs before you are able to feed back because they have the same range BUT fungle have a radius of 2 so it can hit units 11 units away. So if HTs cant do it, colossus are my next thought. The problem is that with the increase of the use of neural, the zerg will 99% of the time have equal or more infestors to the number of colossus, they steal your colossus kill your units then you are done. My next thought is DT's but again if the zerg is watching their army they fungle your DT's before they can do anything. Just looking for ideas, correct me if i have made any incorrect statements. Im just a lost plat toss looking for some info.


Infestors get some feedback or collosus but collosus is really risky cus they can neural parasite you and I think your obsessing too much with infestors, look at how many bases he has look at how many bases u have are u harasrsing with warp prism? did u let him drone all game ? there's alot of factors beside getting owned by infestors

and don'T worry I think they're ridiculous too :D


http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Darthmatto
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom22 Posts
July 17 2011 18:47 GMT
#288
Hey desrow, I watch your stream a lot and have been having some trouble in recent games particularly when doing a 4-gate build.

Heavy marauder/roach play just seems to stomp all over my units, was wondering what advice you would give for this scenario.
-And you are...?
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
July 17 2011 19:23 GMT
#289
On July 18 2011 03:47 Darthmatto wrote:
Hey desrow, I watch your stream a lot and have been having some trouble in recent games particularly when doing a 4-gate build.

Heavy marauder/roach play just seems to stomp all over my units, was wondering what advice you would give for this scenario.


4gate is actually a really bad build it's successful if the opponent is teching or being greedy (zerg mostly)
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Evire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Norway198 Posts
July 17 2011 21:23 GMT
#290
Hi Desrow! I am a high diamond player in Europe looking to get to masters in season 3. But what I am struggling against a lot lately is Terrans doing timing attacks when they have 2 or 4 medivacs. I usually open my build with a 1 gate FE or 3 gate FE. With my units I can scout the need of any early robo facility. When I see a terran standard marine marauder ball I add 2 more gateways, a forge and twilight council. The problem is that the terran usually does his timing attack right before my upgrades have finished. Even with perfect FF and guardian shield I am not able to kill his first wave because of the medivacs. Note that he has slow and stim too.

What can I do to defend against this?

Thanks
/Evire
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
July 17 2011 21:42 GMT
#291
On July 18 2011 06:23 Evire wrote:
Hi Desrow! I am a high diamond player in Europe looking to get to masters in season 3. But what I am struggling against a lot lately is Terrans doing timing attacks when they have 2 or 4 medivacs. I usually open my build with a 1 gate FE or 3 gate FE. With my units I can scout the need of any early robo facility. When I see a terran standard marine marauder ball I add 2 more gateways, a forge and twilight council. The problem is that the terran usually does his timing attack right before my upgrades have finished. Even with perfect FF and guardian shield I am not able to kill his first wave because of the medivacs. Note that he has slow and stim too.

What can I do to defend against this?

Thanks
/Evire


You need aoe, gateway units can't beat bio medivac without sick upgrades or aoe, if you can't beat his army forcefield him out so at least he wasteenergy on his medivac
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
ZorroW
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden31 Posts
July 18 2011 14:43 GMT
#292
♥ x 1000
I ♥ Teamliquid
FenneK
Profile Joined November 2010
France1231 Posts
July 18 2011 14:55 GMT
#293
hey man, im masters eu players and been watching your stream a bit and noticed this build, and i like it alot. could you please got to the trouble of telling me the BO and just some general tips and reactions to what he's doing? pvp is my hardest matchup, i would appreciate the help.

thanks!
good luck have batman
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
July 18 2011 15:33 GMT
#294
Love your stream!
desrow interested to know what do you think of the MC PvZ style of VR expand into heavy air harras?
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 17:52:40
July 18 2011 17:52 GMT
#295
On July 19 2011 00:33 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Love your stream!
desrow interested to know what do you think of the MC PvZ style of VR expand into heavy air harras?


it's viable, def not standard

On July 18 2011 23:55 FenneK wrote:
hey man, im masters eu players and been watching your stream a bit and noticed this build, and i like it alot. could you please got to the trouble of telling me the BO and just some general tips and reactions to what he's doing? pvp is my hardest matchup, i would appreciate the help.

thanks!


what build?
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
DarkQ
Profile Joined July 2011
30 Posts
July 19 2011 14:42 GMT
#296
Heyhoo,

i am searching the PvP built is saw desrow often playing, it´s 3 Gate blink Stalker with a observer and a hidden expo. It looks pretty solid for a Blink play.

thx
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
July 19 2011 15:21 GMT
#297
On July 19 2011 23:42 DarkQ wrote:
Heyhoo,

i am searching the PvP built is saw desrow often playing, it´s 3 Gate blink Stalker with a observer and a hidden expo. It looks pretty solid for a Blink play.

thx


go 2gate robo or 3gate robo depending on your scouting then add a twillight after observer if u think hes rushing blink stalker make an immortal or 2
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
ZorroW
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden31 Posts
July 21 2011 09:34 GMT
#298
hello desrow

I wonder how you play on both EU and NA?
Have you 2 starcraft 2, or have you done something else ?


GL HF ♥
I ♥ Teamliquid
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
July 22 2011 20:33 GMT
#299
On July 21 2011 18:34 ZorroW wrote:
hello desrow

I wonder how you play on both EU and NA?
Have you 2 starcraft 2, or have you done something else ?


GL HF ♥


you have to d/l both clients
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
facemelterr
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 12:51:30
July 23 2011 10:16 GMT
#300
do you recommend double scouting on tal'darim altar if you forge fast expand vs zerg?

also whats your internet provider. i live in ontario and all of the providers have bandwith caps so im not sure how u can stream all day.
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