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This is a good stream to watch.
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DesRow is awesome! Entertaining and skilled. =D
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desrow as in french/canadian desrow ??
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LevenT as in Turkish/German LevenT? :D
Tities Like DesRow. Ownage.
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LOL
y the turkish/german one
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OK i watch his stream its true it is desrow.
ROFL
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Hi, my ID is Lagrangian. We played a pretty epic PvP on LT in a ladder match a few weeks ago!
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On January 09 2011 22:32 LevenT wrote:
OK i watch his stream its true it is desrow.
ROFL
haha sup levent :D still playing hon ^^?
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i play sc2 only
btw u need better music for your stream
and also u need to watch for more cheese, just this game vs magic carpet
i think he cud have cheesed u :D
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On January 09 2011 22:38 LevenT wrote:
i play sc2 only
btw u need better music for your stream
and also u need to watch for more cheese, just this game vs magic carpet
i think he cud have cheesed u :D
haha nice whats ur code
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vtdesrow is awesome.
his music is chanty. I wonder if he does lessons or anything
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On January 09 2011 22:42 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 22:38 LevenT wrote:
i play sc2 only
btw u need better music for your stream
and also u need to watch for more cheese, just this game vs magic carpet
i think he cud have cheesed u :D haha nice whats ur code
my id is secret for now :D
but i have same points like u!
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dont underestimate tom!
he has alot of bonus points so he might be good
DONT BLINDLY CHEESE!
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LOL desrow actually your cheese wud have worked if u wud have just stayed with your probe instead of scouting his base and after he saw your probe moving to the corner he naturally followed it.
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luckily he doesnt know how to stim with terran ROFL
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check stats of skimms pls
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On January 09 2011 22:42 xTNodub wrote:
vtdesrow is awesome.
his music is chanty. I wonder if he does lessons or anything
i do give lessons desrow@vtgaming.net email me for info and yea levin i got lucky and u were right but i think im done with proxy 1gate way too risky btw whats ur ingame code levin
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desrow go show pis dota movie
ppl will like it for sure
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u play xei now?
is it europe server?
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skimms producing his first probe in 3 sec.
he is bad for sure!
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Great to see more and more good players streaming. Quality could be better though.
Also I am surprised that this got featured asap while Rine, a player with much better ranking and stream quality, didnt.
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On January 09 2011 23:06 LevenT wrote:
u play xei now?
is it europe server?
yes what's your code or add me syllogism.217 its not my account but i play eu tours with it
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and btw i already played vs xEI :D
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and he is not bad but i think u can beat him
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levent showing us that gosu dota playres = gosu sc2? :D
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sure i try it but its not easy :D:D
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DONT MOVE WITH YOUR PROBE NOW
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its over he doesnt know how to react to this....
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DESROW FUCKIN CHECK YOUR COMMENTS MORE
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i have usefull information about your opponent
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y it was only about micro
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SHAPE UP YOUR MICRO DESROW
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ok im done talking to myself in this thread
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desrow the worst dota player ever? should be fun to watch.
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On January 09 2011 23:40 LevenT wrote:
y it was only about micro
get on irc or something stop spamming my thread haha =P
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i help u making your thread more popular wtf MAN!
BE THANKFUL
User was warned for this post
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I enjoy you, desRow
Glad to see you streaming
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I desrow, I just watched your stream and I have some pointers for you. You seem to get supply blocked often, remember to build more pylons. Also, make sure to use your chrono boost on your warp gates often to produce units faster. Remember desrow, this isnt wc3 and you have to keep producing probes. Gl!
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LevenT come back to dota we need you! DesRow you may stick with SC2 LOL
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lmao levent spamming up desrows page
I miss watching you guys play DotA =(
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ill be watching dont disappoint
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Stop reading this post and comment on how awesome desrow's stream is.
Desrow's accent is the key to success!
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Desrow my favorite plus sized frenchie!
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did you used to be really shitty at dota
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Desrow's stream gets me all hot and bothered.
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On January 10 2011 12:10 Whoopins wrote:
did you used to be really shitty at dota
yeahhhh its the same desrow
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On January 10 2011 12:28 s2pid_loser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2011 12:10 Whoopins wrote:
did you used to be really shitty at dota yeahhhh its the same desrow
rofl angry nonamers taking low blows its okay guys ur game is so much better than hon and lol 
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On January 10 2011 10:41 Liquid`HuK wrote:
ill be watching dont disappoint
Oh snap you better do well ^^
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desrow like a certain artisit involved in certain rhythm games?
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Desrow's cool and fun to watch, I'd recommend checking out the stream
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watching , i shall be, disappoint you should not
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On January 10 2011 13:04 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2011 12:28 s2pid_loser wrote:On January 10 2011 12:10 Whoopins wrote:
did you used to be really shitty at dota yeahhhh its the same desrow rofl angry nonamers taking low blows its okay guys ur game is so much better than hon and lol
u really were tho lol
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On January 10 2011 13:21 Whoopins wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2011 13:04 desrow wrote:On January 10 2011 12:28 s2pid_loser wrote:On January 10 2011 12:10 Whoopins wrote:
did you used to be really shitty at dota yeahhhh its the same desrow rofl angry nonamers taking low blows its okay guys ur game is so much better than hon and lol u really were tho lol
i played at the highest level possible in IDEC and all these really good leagues how is that shitty who are you what have you done thank you for letting me know your opinion.
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Desrows cannon rushes are like artwork.
His proxy gates are magical, they appear out of nowhere without warning.
His void ray rushes are so sudden they cause heart attacks in his enemies.
His thirty minute long, four base macro games are very
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Wait.... you're playing for a low level team like vt and you think you have the right to call others no names? lol
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TLDR would be proud desrow.
shoutout to nadota
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and all these really good leagues lol
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On January 10 2011 17:15 peachsncream wrote:
Wait.... you're playing for a low level team like vt and you think you have the right to call others no names? lol
i was referring to dota.
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Desrow would be the best protoss player if he couldn't talk on vent
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On January 10 2011 17:15 peachsncream wrote:
Wait.... you're playing for a low level team like vt and you think you have the right to call others no names? lol
VT has a rooted history in the community and Blizzard games.
Low-level is a poor choice words.
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On January 10 2011 17:45 Whiplash wrote:
Desrow would be the best protoss player if he couldn't talk on vent
He would also be the best Terran player if they buffed Reapers.
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I need a banner, if anyone has any skills n is interested let me know in pm or here!
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On January 10 2011 17:15 peachsncream wrote:
Wait.... you're playing for a low level team like vt and you think you have the right to call others no names? lol
Sup, at least he's on a team, un-like your piece of shit ass. Anyways I hear being invited to Gosu Coaching Premier League = low-level, amirite? Sit the fuck down and go be a pimply ass faggot some where else you cunt.
User was temp banned for this post.
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Uncalled for.
In any case, great stream.
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On January 11 2011 05:11 GenocideRun wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2011 17:15 peachsncream wrote:
Wait.... you're playing for a low level team like vt and you think you have the right to call others no names? lol Sup, at least he's on a team, un-like your piece of shit ass. Anyways I hear being invited to Gosu Coaching Premier League = low-level, amirite? Sit the fuck down and go be a pimply ass faggot some where else you cunt. User was temp banned for this post.
bringing all the trash from dota allstars forum huh genocide. desROW was diffenitely not a top DotA player as I have played with him many times in Leagues on Garena.
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On January 10 2011 12:28 s2pid_loser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2011 12:10 Whoopins wrote:
did you used to be really shitty at dota yeahhhh its the same desrow
you are terrible at DotA in DXD. Don't bring trash talk in teamliquid please. STAY AWAY... I remember u were bottom 10 every season with 500points
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On January 11 2011 05:05 desrow wrote:
I need a banner, if anyone has any skills n is interested let me know in pm or here!
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/TBUiJ.png)
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On January 11 2011 06:04 backtoback wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2011 12:28 s2pid_loser wrote:On January 10 2011 12:10 Whoopins wrote:
did you used to be really shitty at dota yeahhhh its the same desrow you are terrible at DotA in DXD. Don't bring trash talk in teamliquid please. STAY AWAY... I remember u were bottom 10 every season with 500points
i never played dxd maybe 5 games lifetime :D
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On January 11 2011 06:26 Ketara wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 05:05 desrow wrote:
I need a banner, if anyone has any skills n is interested let me know in pm or here!
hahaha sick banner ketara
im sorry bluetea, i admire your effort but i'm gonna have to go with ketara's banner :D
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desrow... that banner is a pretty funny, how did you not detect its true meaning? clearly implying a cannon rush LOL... surely you don't want to represent your stream by having a cannon rush at the top of this thread?
off topic: look at all these haters :O
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On January 11 2011 07:38 donut boi wrote:
desrow... that banner is a pretty funny, how did you not detect its true meaning? clearly implying a cannon rush LOL... surely you don't want to represent your stream by having a cannon rush at the top of this thread?
Obviously everyone should get that this is meant to be ironic - and I think it's pretty funny as well
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Clearly you've never seen one of Desrows cannon rushes.
They do that Canadian flag proud!
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On January 11 2011 07:25 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 06:04 backtoback wrote:On January 10 2011 12:28 s2pid_loser wrote:On January 10 2011 12:10 Whoopins wrote:
did you used to be really shitty at dota yeahhhh its the same desrow you are terrible at DotA in DXD. Don't bring trash talk in teamliquid please. STAY AWAY... I remember u were bottom 10 every season with 500points i never played dxd maybe 5 games lifetime :D
i was talking to s2pid_loser. My other post was about you though
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On January 11 2011 08:32 backtoback wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 07:25 desrow wrote:On January 11 2011 06:04 backtoback wrote:On January 10 2011 12:28 s2pid_loser wrote:On January 10 2011 12:10 Whoopins wrote:
did you used to be really shitty at dota yeahhhh its the same desrow you are terrible at DotA in DXD. Don't bring trash talk in teamliquid please. STAY AWAY... I remember u were bottom 10 every season with 500points i never played dxd maybe 5 games lifetime :D i was talking to s2pid_loser. My other post was about you though
yea i agree i wasnt a top player but i def wasnt bad i played at the top level it was fun but too much networking btw i won go4sc2 rep pack coming soon !
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I've been watching desRow's stream frequently for the last few weeks, and I notice a lot of people are enjoying it.
There is some funny BM towards his teammates (in good spirit), there is a non-trolled chatchannel and there are high-quality matches on, or, some of the time, there is some live-coaching (on a lot of different skill levels).
For those people in the EU (like me), it's also accessible because of the wide range of broadcasting times.
When you're bored of playing SC2, you should visit some time
(and yes, I registered for this post, and no, I'm no bot, nor was I bribed  )
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desRow owns, just in case you guys didn't notice.
Tune in if you want to a have a great time. He usually streams his lessons and give tips about general sc2 playstyle. We (the mods) are very friendly and probably won't time-out/ban any viewers.
Take care buddies.
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Great Stream Des. This is Chair001 here.(:
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I have been watching your stream for a week and a half... I also really like your coaching style also. I have been learning quite a bit. When I can afford it I think I'm going to get book a few sessions Keep up all the good work man!
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started watching desrow's stream recently. very solid gameplay and insightful coaching. keep it up!
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I started watching his stream a couple of days ago, and to be honest, I've watched him ever since. If I'm doing my homework, I'll have the chat up and the stream in the background, he's just such a nice and funny guy! // Heugyang
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This stream is awesome!
a very good balance between coaching and practicing (ladder/costum-games)
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awsome stream! learning a lot, and definitly considering buying some lessons.
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Very entertaining stream, I love watching the ladder games and the coaching both are extremely helpful
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Desrow's too french to pick up packages.
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Awesome stream, more people should watch it
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Completly love this stream, Thanks for the stream Des <3
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Nice stream! Get's me through internship days LOL
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hey desrow can i have your dubstep palylist? pls i LOVE DUBSTEP *_* greetings from a german Protoss palyer <3
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ur doing a good job dude
keep up the good work
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Love your stream desrow keep up the good work.
dont poop on his rainbow
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On April 01 2011 20:42 quaZa wrote:
hey desrow can i have your dubstep palylist? pls i LOVE DUBSTEP *_* greetings from a german Protoss palyer <3
Go on my twitter. www.twitter.com/desRowCA You should find it not too far down the list. Follow <3
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Hi, can u tell me plz your spec comp?
what CPU, Videocard, and Monitor u have?
do u have SSD?
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On April 03 2011 23:23 2GRe-Play- wrote:
Hi, can u tell me plz your spec comp?
what CPU, Videocard, and Monitor u have?
do u have SSD?
i5 sandy bridge
ati radeon 4870
i have 32" HD monitor 1080i
SSD ? no clue what that is
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On April 04 2011 01:29 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 23:23 2GRe-Play- wrote:
Hi, can u tell me plz your spec comp?
what CPU, Videocard, and Monitor u have?
do u have SSD? i5 sandy bridge ati radeon 4870 i have 32" HD monitor 1080i SSD ? no clue what that is
SSD is a new type of hard discs, much much faster but also much more expensive, no real need to have them
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On April 04 2011 01:43 OutlaW- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 01:29 desrow wrote:On April 03 2011 23:23 2GRe-Play- wrote:
Hi, can u tell me plz your spec comp?
what CPU, Videocard, and Monitor u have?
do u have SSD? i5 sandy bridge ati radeon 4870 i have 32" HD monitor 1080i SSD ? no clue what that is SSD is a new type of hard discs, much much faster but also much more expensive, no real need to have them
nah i got sata
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Any tips on what to do vs Fast expanding terran? I feel like i should go pressure them but they seem to have many units even though they are expanding. Should I just proxy pylon and 4 gate or take an expo as well and macro up faster than him?
Also having problems vs MM rush, generally unsure what to do there other than that put up some FF to buy sometime, but I dont know what my army comp should be like, you know if its more zealots than stalker or no stalkers but rather sentry and lots.
Thanks in advance, any help will be much appreciated! ^^
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3gate pressure or 4gate can punish them. 3gate pressure with expo. If they 3 racks pressure you, go 1base collosus and enjoy the free win.stalkers are bad against marauder, if theyre more marine heavy get some more stalker. Try to be more specific next time because your MM rush doesn't say how many barracks the terran had
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On April 04 2011 01:29 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 23:23 2GRe-Play- wrote:
Hi, can u tell me plz your spec comp?
what CPU, Videocard, and Monitor u have?
do u have SSD? i5 sandy bridge ati radeon 4870 i have 32" HD monitor 1080i SSD ? no clue what that is
what is the model of that monitor? is it 120Hz?
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your mods powertrip and ban ppl over nothing, its costing you viewers
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I actually came across desrow's stream by a total coincidence, when I wanted to watch some protoss playing two days ago. Dind't expect to find it so entertaining as well as educative. This guy surely is funny to listen to, he's not shy to talk to people.
It's kinda shame he has to deal with many annoying trolls. Can't understand why people are so ungrateful. Cut the guy some slack...
So, thank you for giving me a lot of laughs in these last two days, sire and keep going.
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I had some coaching lessons from desRow, great coach and great tips. I feel my game is improving as long as I do my part and practice. Great coach who cares that his students understand his coaching.
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On April 05 2011 08:15 BabyToss! wrote:I actually came across desrow's stream by a total coincidence, when I wanted to watch some protoss playing two days ago. Dind't expect to find it so entertaining as well as educative. This guy surely is funny to listen to, he's not shy to talk to people. It's kinda shame he has to deal with many annoying trolls. Can't understand why people are so ungrateful. Cut the guy some slack... So, thank you for giving me a lot of laughs in these last two days, sire and keep going.
awesome thanks <3
as for the mods doing power trip just be careful on how you write things in chat, i tell em to kill trolls and people that are not nice. if you talk in a meanful way about me on a losing streak then yea you got the boot sorry <3
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awesome thanks <3
as for the mods doing power trip just be careful on how you write things in chat, i tell em to kill trolls and people that are not nice. if you talk in a meanful way about me on a losing streak then yea you got the boot sorry <3
What.. sounds like a conspiration desrow. Keep up the good work tho.
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DesRow will you sign my Mulan cardboard cutout in Columbus? I got it off e-bay just for you!
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Hey !
I wanted to ask about things that i should consider in PvP matchup , i'm in gold league about few days and all that i had to do in bronze/silver leagues - warp darks through prism or blow enemy with mass blink stalkers. But after getting into gold it doesnt works any longer ,qq.
*sorry for my poor english*
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On April 09 2011 06:20 Scythless wrote:
DesRow will you sign my Mulan cardboard cutout in Columbus? I got it off e-bay just for you!
sure LOL :D <3
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On April 09 2011 06:30 mksm wrote:
Hey !
I wanted to ask about things that i should consider in PvP matchup , i'm in gold league about few days and all that i had to do in bronze/silver leagues - warp darks through prism or blow enemy with mass blink stalkers. But after getting into gold it doesnt works any longer ,qq.
*sorry for my poor english*
Practice 4gate, you're execution will be good <3 !
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really great stream!! learnd alot just watchin the coaching sessions!
keep up the nice streamin!
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Hey man, where your stream go?
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great stream, love it ! educational and entertaining at the same time.
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do you ever play games yourself? whenever i tune in, i see some replay ...
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I was going to buy a lesson from desRow, but after watching him give a lesson to a bronze leaguer i was completely turned off by that thought.
desRow yelled at the kid he was coaching because he forgot a pylon and when i told him to lay off him because its a common error for low level players, he banned me from the chat.
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On April 28 2011 05:25 .Madness wrote:
I was going to buy a lesson from desRow, but after watching him give a lesson to a bronze leaguer i was completely turned off by that thought.
desRow yelled at the kid he was coaching because he forgot a pylon and when i told him to lay off him because its a common error for low level players, he banned me from the chat.
In his defense, anyone below diamond should not waste money on coaching.
It's simply lose-lose for both of them, the coach gets frustrated with the skill level of the player, and the player isn't going to improve.
anyone diamond and below should just resort to the forums and the guides and discussions therein
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Hey Desrow!
Can i find your music playlist somewhere, or could i get you to poste it here for me?
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On April 28 2011 05:25 .Madness wrote:
I was going to buy a lesson from desRow, but after watching him give a lesson to a bronze leaguer i was completely turned off by that thought.
desRow yelled at the kid he was coaching because he forgot a pylon and when i told him to lay off him because its a common error for low level players, he banned me from the chat.
I banned you for bashing my coaching. I've coached for over 300hours and I never had someone tell me my coaching was bad, they were all satisfied and they all got promoted to higher leagues/got better. If you get coaching from me, it's not to dick around. I'm going to tell you what you do wrong and you're going to improve it's plain and simple. I don't tolerate people bashing me and saying my coaching style is bad in my stream chat so I just timeban. I told you several time to stop and you didn't. Have a good day.
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On April 28 2011 05:38 CampinSam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 05:25 .Madness wrote:
I was going to buy a lesson from desRow, but after watching him give a lesson to a bronze leaguer i was completely turned off by that thought.
desRow yelled at the kid he was coaching because he forgot a pylon and when i told him to lay off him because its a common error for low level players, he banned me from the chat. In his defense, anyone below diamond should not waste money on coaching. It's simply lose-lose for both of them, the coach gets frustrated with the skill level of the player, and the player isn't going to improve. anyone diamond and below should just resort to the forums and the guides and discussions therein
I highly disagree. Think of your mechanics as a bridge. As you play this game longer, your bridge gets bigger and bigger and can hold more cars. Let's say from the day you started playing this game, all you picked up was bad habits and did everything in a really bad way and did everything slow... Would you rather have good "fundations for your bridge" or would you rather having to break/reconstruct your bridge? Getting coaching when you're in bronze,silver,gold is as good as getting coaching when you're in diamond-masters, it's just different kind of a approach. The reason not many coaches stream their coaching session is because people like you and the guy above judge and bash coaching at any given moment because it makes you feel good to tell the world your opinion.
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On April 28 2011 06:40 Neosyc wrote:Hey Desrow! Can i find your music playlist somewhere, or could i get you to poste it here for me?
http://desrowfighting.com You can find my playlist in the streaming info ! <3 :D
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desrow who?
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Destroyed this guy in ladder, he turned off his stream, logged on to a different account (because I had him on ignore) and proceeded to flame me for however long it took me to get back to my computer and ignore his alternative account as well.
Epic, epic noob douche.
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Had a great time watching
Definetly gonna come back and watch some more awesome desRow action
Congratulations on join vVv! :D It's so exciting
Good luck in the future
Peace out man
Lafroste
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this guy is a huge asshole, will put a commercial and go offline after he loses a game and not say anything, shit talks random opponents he has no class at all and doesnt deserve students/viewers to support him. dont know how anyone can stand him, you should watch incontrol for some coaching lessons.
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just to let you know your moderator boraz is a dumb ass, banned me for asking for help about my stream and gave me no warning, i only asked once didn't spam my link, didn't know we couldn't post links
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On May 03 2011 05:52 avatarofjustice wrote:
Destroyed this guy in ladder, he turned off his stream, logged on to a different account (because I had him on ignore) and proceeded to flame me for however long it took me to get back to my computer and ignore his alternative account as well.
Epic, epic noob douche.
lol ...? Sorry I don't waste my time logging on smurfs to go flame random bobs
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On May 05 2011 22:08 mewby wrote:
this guy is a huge asshole, will put a commercial and go offline after he loses a game and not say anything, shit talks random opponents he has no class at all and doesnt deserve students/viewers to support him. dont know how anyone can stand him, you should watch incontrol for some coaching lessons.
I'm assuming your the friend of the guy 2 post above. Have a nice day
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How come you aren't going to MLG? I remember you saying it was 100% you were going. Too bad I guess.
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This guy is so incredibly BM. Someone in chat said that he sounded gay. This resulted in a typical desrow tirade:
'why is your mother a whore'
'you're such a faggot'
'you're a waste of life because your mother is a whore'
'i hope that you fall down stairs and break your neck and peace out in the hospital'
(18/05/11 @ 14:20)
This isn't an isolated incident. Any time desrow receives even the smallest amount of criticism, he just loses it.
He constantly belittles his opponents and rages hardcore when he loses.
Is this a guy you really want to receive a lesson from? Is he, as a person, worthy of your money?
If you're fine with homophobic, rage-prone guys then fine. Otherwise; look elsewhere. He is not a nice person.
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On May 18 2011 22:27 komodochas wrote:
This guy is so incredibly BM. Someone in chat said that he sounded gay. This resulted in a typical desrow tirade:
'why is your mother a whore'
'you're such a faggot'
'you're a waste of life because your mother is a whore'
'i hope that you fall down stairs and break your neck and peace out in the hospital'
(18/05/11 @ 14:20)
This isn't an isolated incident. Any time desrow receives even the smallest amount of criticism, he just loses it.
He constantly belittles his opponents and rages hardcore when he loses.
Is this a guy you really want to receive a lesson from? Is he, as a person, worthy of your money?
If you're fine with homophobic, rage-prone guys then fine. Otherwise; look elsewhere. He is not a nice person.
Nothing but pure legitimacy ever comes out from people with 1 post, honest.
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On May 18 2011 23:08 komodochas wrote:Just telling it like it is. If you doubt the veracity of my post, feel free to check the vod when it comes online. He said those things. Edit: http://www.justin.tv/desrowfighting/b/286140727 @ 1h 29mins.
I was obviously joking........ I don't wish to anyone to trip in stairs and break their neck. The guy was flat out flaming me tho so the part about his mom being a professional sex person might of been truthful.
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Did you hear what White-Ra said on MrBitter's stream earlier, desrow?
He said that for esports to grow, we need less people flaming and acting childish on streams/forums/ingame.You'd do well to listen to him. Peace.
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On May 19 2011 05:46 komodochas wrote:
Did you hear what White-Ra said on MrBitter's stream earlier, desrow?
He said that for esports to grow, we need less people flaming and acting childish on streams/forums/ingame.You'd do well to listen to him. Peace.
Have you ever heard of destiny? God... Take life with a graint of salt, Was trying to put on a show...
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this stream is totally awesome! desrow is chronoboosting my sc2-knowledge
one of my favorite streams so far, quality is fine, desrow is fun, freaking out and randomly screaming sometimes, explains alot - tune in!
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komodochas post above pretty much reflects my impression as well. He even BMs his students. I know desrow is an expert player and you could absolutely learn a lot from him, as long as you are fine with some verbal abuse in the process.
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On May 20 2011 06:30 Glaaki wrote:
komodochas post above pretty much reflects my impression as well. He even BMs his students. I know desrow is an expert player and you could absolutely learn a lot from him, as long as you are fine with some verbal abuse in the process.
Have you ever tried taking things with a grain of salt? I have respect for every of my student. I've never "abused" or made a student feel bad/regret getting coached by me.
Thank you for hating on... euh feedback on my stream, I'm honored to be part of one of your 3 post on teamliquid.
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You guys should provide screenshots, otherwise this is all just hearsay
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barely beat him on ladder in some 50 min pvp on scrap station. openned up his stream afterwards to see what he thought about the game (i was really far behind early on, so i was interested in hearing what he had to say about the strategy) and he was flaming me. he said that i was a huge faggot, no skill, etc and i dont even know the guy.
i hope takes all the criticism that is in this thread and can work to improve his attitude. not a bad player at all, just needs a better mentality.
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On May 20 2011 08:52 Caliber wrote:
barely beat him on ladder in some 50 min pvp on scrap station. openned up his stream afterwards to see what he thought about the game (i was really far behind early on, so i was interested in hearing what he had to say about the strategy) and he was flaming me. he said that i was a huge faggot, no skill, etc and i dont even know the guy.
i hope takes all the criticism that is in this thread and can work to improve his attitude. not a bad player at all, just needs a better mentality.
LOL pvp scrap station 50 minutes? unless you're that crazy dood who went 90 phoenix after fail 2gate proxy and btw 90 phoenix doesnt take any skills then sorry you are butthurt :D
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i am in fact that "crazy dood"
im not "butthurt" either, i just dont understand how you can call someone a retard and a faggot after playing them in a 1v1 on your stream.
doesnt seem like something a player should do thats trying to become sponsored / join a team.
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Hey m8t! stream is werry good quality is werry good too!
But you need music!
Play music so when you dont talk theres atleast something going on!
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On May 20 2011 22:28 TommmyBoy wrote:Hey m8t! stream is werry good quality is werry good too! But you need music! Play music so when you dont talk theres atleast something going on!
This is terrible advice. At least when theres no music on, people can choose to listen to their own stuff without missing out on game sounds. Not to mention that some people's music tastes are less than ideal, so it ends up with people watching a muted stream. Also, this discourages the streamer from talking, which is always a negative.
Nice stream btw, entertaining
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On May 20 2011 23:11 ihavetofartosis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 22:28 TommmyBoy wrote:Hey m8t! stream is werry good quality is werry good too! But you need music! Play music so when you dont talk theres atleast something going on! This is terrible advice. At least when theres no music on, people can choose to listen to their own stuff without missing out on game sounds. Not to mention that some people's music tastes are less than ideal, so it ends up with people watching a muted stream. Also, this discourages the streamer from talking, which is always a negative. Nice stream btw, entertaining
Thanks a lot, I might download the terran music and put in the background (very quiet)
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Why do you keep playing on Smurf accounts?
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On May 20 2011 23:11 ihavetofartosis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 22:28 TommmyBoy wrote:Hey m8t! stream is werry good quality is werry good too! But you need music! Play music so when you dont talk theres atleast something going on! This is terrible advice. At least when theres no music on, people can choose to listen to their own stuff without missing out on game sounds. Not to mention that some people's music tastes are less than ideal, so it ends up with people watching a muted stream. Also, this discourages the streamer from talking, which is always a negative. Nice stream btw, entertaining
i disagree, a lot of streams work fine with talking and music, zerker is a great example.
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i'm very glad there is barely any music on desrows stream. if i want to hear music, i still have my own. but when there's music on the stream, about 20-25 ppl start complaining in the chat, start music discussions (rules -> forbidden), etc pp.
focus is - and should be - awesome sc2 action. no need to change anything.
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On May 23 2011 06:36 Torte de Lini wrote:
Why do you keep playing on Smurf accounts?
Becauuse people snipe me and cheese/stream chat. A few 6pool on taldarim without a scout comes to mind.
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first time tunin in great quality stream. keep it up! Brotoss for life.
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hi
i have a question about the DT opener vs Z could you tell my the buildorder?
thanks for the sream it helps my a lot!
ps: sy bout my english^^
i'm from switzerland
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On May 25 2011 05:46 swisswolf wrote:hi i have a question about the DT opener vs Z could you tell my the buildorder? thanks for the sream it helps my a lot! ps: sy bout my english^^ i'm from switzerland
The way I do it is
9pylon
14gate
15gas
16pylon
2nd gas whenever u have money
core when gate finishes, get zealot whenever u have money
go 3gate, add twillight get 1 zealot 3 sentry then add expo then add forge inside ur main at 38/42 make pylon on low ground make 1 cannon +3 zealot (never cut probe in that entire process) warp in your 3 dts as expo finishes defend their all in or do sick damage => into macro game
have fun :D
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love the stream, helped me a lot, would advice it to everyone
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great stream, for some reason* I keep getting back to it day after day!
*reason: skilled player, informative and educational, talks/analyses what he or opponent does, gets upset sometimes as I do ^^, seems nice to ppl who asks for advice or builds etc.
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omg haha that last dude that was bm,,, 5 hellion banshee... and calls you out haha
thanks for the awesome stream everyday!
would be cool to see segments or episodes or something too.
Ive seen the reps with analysis, I like!
the coaching is great too, I mean to really sit in on a sesh while you do your thing is fun.
and no.1 in my book is how desrow doesn't play music much tyty I like!
you a bosstoss, a maleman gg
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This stream has everything.. Desrow does not dissapoint! Anyone who watches will not be bored.. DesRow FTW!
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what a great fungame with demu rotti moman sarens tod xd
soccer ftw!
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Ya Star Strikers was really exciting to observe, such great back and forth in that game.
You gotta get a team going with those dudes, make a show of it.
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Great stream! Learned a good amount being a non-WC3/BW/SC1 newcomer. Also just good entertainment at times.
The DT thing is pretty wild, but I do have a question - how come even in 200/200 level games, we never see Fleet Beacon utilized by Protoss? Is that portion of T3 completely non-viable? I mean I know Voids are better bang for the buck, but surely FB should be useful at some point ya?
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Loving the streaming keep up the good work x
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On May 26 2011 04:02 Justikhar wrote:Great stream! Learned a good amount being a non-WC3/BW/SC1 newcomer. Also just good entertainment at times. The DT thing is pretty wild, but I do have a question - how come even in 200/200 level games, we never see Fleet Beacon utilized by Protoss? Is that portion of T3 completely non-viable? I mean I know Voids are better bang for the buck, but surely FB should be useful at some point ya?
mothership is good and upgrades is good carriers take too long
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Awesome stream, hope I can afford a long lessons a day
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Hey Desrow
Enjoy your stream very much, have watched it for like 3 month now, and have learned allot from you, ty.
My question is, how do u decide when you go 3gate+robo or 2gate+robo? Or do you have any other safe openers vs. terran?
I am currently top platinum, and I am looking to make my game safer in early and mid game. I feel like I have a decent late game, and almost never lose the long games.
I tend to lose to foolish all ins, cheese, and/or early semi all in pressure which really annoys me a lot. Some off the reason is ofc, my micro, AMP, and lack of in game time, but I would be very happy if you could give me your thoughts on the issue.
I know it is a big question, but hope you will give it a shot.
Ty for your friendly and funny attitude. Keep on the good work sir.
Your happy viewer
Laursen
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Dear Desrow, what would you recomend for a platinum level protoss to do in order to defend against that roach ling attack if they don't have master level forcefield micro?
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On May 27 2011 01:58 Laursen wrote:
Hey Desrow
Enjoy your stream very much, have watched it for like 3 month now, and have learned allot from you, ty.
My question is, how do u decide when you go 3gate+robo or 2gate+robo? Or do you have any other safe openers vs. terran?
I am currently top platinum, and I am looking to make my game safer in early and mid game. I feel like I have a decent late game, and almost never lose the long games.
I tend to lose to foolish all ins, cheese, and/or early semi all in pressure which really annoys me a lot. Some off the reason is ofc, my micro, AMP, and lack of in game time, but I would be very happy if you could give me your thoughts on the issue.
I know it is a big question, but hope you will give it a shot.
Ty for your friendly and funny attitude. Keep on the good work sir.
Your happy viewer
Laursen
2gate robo will get u faster expand but ull have to play defensive
3gate robo will get u a later expansion but ull be able to apply pressure
it all depends on what u scout.
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On May 27 2011 05:47 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 01:58 Laursen wrote:
Hey Desrow
Enjoy your stream very much, have watched it for like 3 month now, and have learned allot from you, ty.
My question is, how do u decide when you go 3gate+robo or 2gate+robo? Or do you have any other safe openers vs. terran?
I am currently top platinum, and I am looking to make my game safer in early and mid game. I feel like I have a decent late game, and almost never lose the long games.
I tend to lose to foolish all ins, cheese, and/or early semi all in pressure which really annoys me a lot. Some off the reason is ofc, my micro, AMP, and lack of in game time, but I would be very happy if you could give me your thoughts on the issue.
I know it is a big question, but hope you will give it a shot.
Ty for your friendly and funny attitude. Keep on the good work sir.
Your happy viewer
Laursen
2gate robo will get u faster expand but ull have to play defensive 3gate robo will get u a later expansion but ull be able to apply pressure it all depends on what u scout.
ty
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LOVE Des!! <3 Great Stream
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Very nice streams! Love them!
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keep the stream going des!! fun to watch!!
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desrow is a gd and fun streamer that explains why he is doing something :D
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awsome dude with awsome skill go watch.
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Some pretty awesome comeback games and a nice Q&A section. I'll be coming back regularly!
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Great stream. Very friendly and entertaining guy.
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Hey Desrow, are you going to be at MLG Columbus?
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On May 28 2011 10:21 BlackGosu wrote:
Hey Desrow, are you going to be at MLG Columbus?
Unfortunately I won't be attending. It is too expensive for me to pay it on my own and I don't have a team at the moment.
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dear desrow,
im an avid viewer of your high quality stream and your outstanding coaching. i've got a few questions on my mind.
1: How do you deal with reactor hellions on taldarim altar?
2: How do you handle the 2rax reactor first pressure build?
my sincerely regards
yoigen
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Hey Desrow! I love your steam! I try to watch it as much as I can! I haven't lost hope in you! I know you do great thing! LOVE YOU DES!!
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I´m very satisfied with the replay pack Desrow provided me, i haven't lost a game vs zerg with one particular build, and there´s a nice cheese PvT strat in there too (haven´t checked more than 3 builds atm but im pretty sure there´s many more good ones in there )
You can tell he spent alot of time doing all the builds.
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hey des, whats some powerful PvZ builds? im playing at the high gold-plat level with some occasional diamond matches, and pvz is by far my worst match up. any tips?
P.S. I love your stream but Mods are extremely out of control, especially doji. He flames questions more than normal users, and is honestly the reason i dont use chat on your stream. Not trying to flame, but just saying your mods are scaring away some of your viewers
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two questions:
wich players do you respect the most/get inspired by?
wich player would you want to beat the most if you got a chance to play against him?
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On May 29 2011 09:54 Elake wrote:
two questions:
wich players do you respect the most/get inspired by?
wich player would you want to beat the most if you got a chance to play against him?
#1 - Huk/ToD
#2 MYM|Sase
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On May 29 2011 08:33 ArodaSC wrote:
hey des, whats some powerful PvZ builds? im playing at the high gold-plat level with some occasional diamond matches, and pvz is by far my worst match up. any tips?
P.S. I love your stream but Mods are extremely out of control, especially doji. He flames questions more than normal users, and is honestly the reason i dont use chat on your stream. Not trying to flame, but just saying your mods are scaring away some of your viewers
3Gate DT or stargate play is good against zerg.
Doji is doing an awesome job. There's a lot of trolls and dicks in stream chats, he cleans it up I'm fine with it.
On May 29 2011 04:33 yoigen wrote:
dear desrow,
im an avid viewer of your high quality stream and your outstanding coaching. i've got a few questions on my mind.
1: How do you deal with reactor hellions on taldarim altar?
2: How do you handle the 2rax reactor first pressure build?
my sincerely regards
yoigen
I wall off my base with 3pylon if theres too many and make stalkers to kill em. you handle the 2rax reactor first pressure by making units and having good micro.
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Dude, you need to stop playing with that hand, it's only gonna get worse if you don't let it heal.
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desrow you own.
sorry you have carpal tunnel.
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Watching high level players' streams has helped me learn, progress and enjoy the game, from my placement in bronze to my current place in platinum.
Desrow's stream is one of my favorites, as I feel he offers high level play while engaging viewers of all skill levels. The commentary of each build and decision making process is extremely useful to me, and Desrow has even answered some of my questions in his Q&A breaks.
Many thanks and glhf!
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Desrow vs LastShadow:
Desrow got creamed and I got banned for saying LastShadow should win.
Awesome job.
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hey desrow. i'm really haaving problems holding off the terran ghost push.
i'm referring the one where they sit on one base and push out with a couple ghosts (for emp) a few marudders and a lot of marines.
how do i read this coming and how do i hold it off?
any help you could give would be appreciated.
thanks
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I like your stream, but the best are his the comments.
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Always nice to watch Desrow stream.
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I have a question: I nearly loose every PvP. What is your build for 4gate or what can I do against 4 gate. Maybe I make too much probs.
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sick stream, I love how you have long segments of streaming.. I'm a zerg, but have recently played terran and toss a bit and I'm not sure which I should stick with, any suggestions on how to pick a race? also, can I get a decent toss build to practice mechanics with?
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On June 03 2011 05:14 SkuL wrote:
sick stream, I love how you have long segments of streaming.. I'm a zerg, but have recently played terran and toss a bit and I'm not sure which I should stick with, any suggestions on how to pick a race? also, can I get a decent toss build to practice mechanics with?
toss if you want a micro intensive race. Otherwise, pick Terran.
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Poor Marie-Claude, she must have been so sad.
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On June 03 2011 06:10 Drolla wrote:
Poor Marie-Claude, she must have been so sad.
LOL yeah for those of you who asked question, ill answer after my coaching !@!!
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On June 03 2011 05:13 chivu wrote:
I have a question: I nearly loose every PvP. What is your build for 4gate or what can I do against 4 gate. Maybe I make too much probs.
Try 3 gate robo or defensive 4gate or try 3stalker rush, go on youtube and type 3stalker rush by artosis pretty good tutorial !
On June 03 2011 05:14 SkuL wrote:
sick stream, I love how you have long segments of streaming.. I'm a zerg, but have recently played terran and toss a bit and I'm not sure which I should stick with, any suggestions on how to pick a race? also, can I get a decent toss build to practice mechanics with?
3gate gate fe against zerg, 2gate robo against terran 3gate robo against protoss gl :D
On June 03 2011 04:41 dsue wrote:hey desrow. i'm really haaving problems holding off the terran ghost push. i'm referring the one where they sit on one base and push out with a couple ghosts (for emp) a few marudders and a lot of marines. how do i read this coming and how do i hold it off? any help you could give would be appreciated. thanks
2gate robo should be able to beat that ez, once u scout 3 racks go 1base collosus
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Great stream man
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On June 03 2011 08:49 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 04:41 dsue wrote:hey desrow. i'm really haaving problems holding off the terran ghost push. i'm referring the one where they sit on one base and push out with a couple ghosts (for emp) a few marudders and a lot of marines. how do i read this coming and how do i hold it off? any help you could give would be appreciated. thanks 2gate robo should be able to beat that ez, once u scout 3 racks go 1base collosus
so are you saying i should always 2 gate robo vs terrans as the safest opening so that i could get colossus relitively quickly if i need them?
also when is usually a good time to get a second gas vs terran?
thanks
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On June 03 2011 21:29 dsue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 08:49 desrow wrote:On June 03 2011 04:41 dsue wrote:hey desrow. i'm really haaving problems holding off the terran ghost push. i'm referring the one where they sit on one base and push out with a couple ghosts (for emp) a few marudders and a lot of marines. how do i read this coming and how do i hold it off? any help you could give would be appreciated. thanks 2gate robo should be able to beat that ez, once u scout 3 racks go 1base collosus so are you saying i should always 2 gate robo vs terrans as the safest opening so that i could get colossus relitively quickly if i need them? also when is usually a good time to get a second gas vs terran? thanks
2nd gas depends on your buiild not always open 2gate robo but close air and maybe close spawn and some other maps !
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how do you beat mass phoenix on scrap station? i was up like 1-2 bases after i held off some proxy cheese, but i still got rolled.
what do?
thx
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Thx for your answer
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acceptance is the first step
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Hey
in PvZ when i do 3Gate Sentry expand what do i do when the Zerg goes Hydra without roach before. Do i just rush colosus?
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On June 07 2011 03:08 Pabi wrote:
Hey
in PvZ when i do 3Gate Sentry expand what do i do when the Zerg goes Hydra without roach before. Do i just rush colosus?
try to scout it ahead, go collosus + cannons if ur not ready to handle the hydras
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Excellent stream, the commentary is really useful.
EDIT: question answered on stream
Thanks!
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Hy Desrow, thanks for the streaming.
When I use D.T B.O against Zergs, after the early harass, I usually use archons, with charge zealot and Imortals (if he comes with mass roachs). Why don´t use archons in this B.O ?
Thanks
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On June 08 2011 09:15 Magu_BR wrote:
Hy Desrow, thanks for the streaming.
When I use D.T B.O against Zergs, after the early harass, I usually use archons, with charge zealot and Imortals (if he comes with mass roachs). Why don´t use archons in this B.O ?
Thanks
because that army competition isnt cost efficient. and the mobility is awful too glad that it's working for you
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He does it!! He beat idra. Desrow going crazy.
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I cant write in the chat so I am writing here^^. I dont know why I think the Iluminati was it .
Great stream and amazing when you play against bronze noobs.^^
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On June 16 2011 07:21 chivu wrote:I cant write in the chat so I am writing here^^. I dont know why I think the Iluminati was it . Great stream and amazing when you play against bronze noobs.^^
what's your name I will try to unban you?
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hey drw,
i asked yesterday about beating terran mech and you answered with protoss air. do you have any replays where i could see that in action?
any early signs that a player will be going mech?
thanks,
sue
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Desrow, how do I effectively stop mass muta?
Im platinum and I get totally frustrated when I see loads of spines with a spire behind it.
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I am still the same^^: rsgchivu. I dont know what is wrong with the chat. You dont bane me, but in the chat only stand I am banned^^. The fuck*** chat hate me.
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Please keep singing. Every time you sing I win my games in sc2 :D Desrow you are my lucky charm
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On June 16 2011 22:41 dsue wrote:
hey drw,
i asked yesterday about beating terran mech and you answered with protoss air. do you have any replays where i could see that in action?
any early signs that a player will be going mech?
thanks,
sue
I said double robo collosus immortal u can get carriers late late game if ur on 3-4-5 bases
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On June 16 2011 22:41 Dailyleaf wrote:
Desrow, how do I effectively stop mass muta?
Im platinum and I get totally frustrated when I see loads of spines with a spire behind it.
2base
6-8gate with blink get templar turtle and expand once u have storm
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On June 16 2011 23:18 chivu wrote:
I am still the same^^: rsgchivu. I dont know what is wrong with the chat. You dont bane me, but in the chat only stand I am banned^^. The fuck*** chat hate me.
try to make a new account ?
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Hey I got perma banned for reasons unknown to me but I promise I am a good viewer and don't cause trouble :D! Can I get un perma banned (sc_crazy)!
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So annoying !!! BM, low apm and not very impressive considering the amount of time he spends playing. There are great streams like "Blackcitadel" that are not featured, Im wondering why is this guy in the top of the streams.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On June 18 2011 04:59 JAKA wrote:
Hey I got perma banned for reasons unknown to me but I promise I am a good viewer and don't cause trouble :D! Can I get un perma banned (sc_crazy)!
I unbanned you bro something crazy happened in the chat when jtv got hacked sry T_T
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I am regular viewer of the stream - which is one of the best and very entertaining.
I was watching an archive this morning where he was power levelling for someone. It was pretty funny him advertising his coaching to them but a couple of times he said something like "oh .. you are doing a greedy 4 gate, now I am going to [beat you .. etc etc]".
Not the exact words .. but what is a greedy 4 gate and why do you suddenly know you are going to beat them ?
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On June 23 2011 11:50 Jagungal wrote:
I am regular viewer of the stream - which is one of the best and very entertaining.
I was watching an archive this morning where he was power levelling for someone. It was pretty funny him advertising his coaching to them but a couple of times he said something like "oh .. you are doing a greedy 4 gate, now I am going to [beat you .. etc etc]".
Not the exact words .. but what is a greedy 4 gate and why do you suddenly know you are going to beat them ?
As an avid watcher of desrow, it generally seems to me that a greedy 4 gate is one where the opponent uses more than 2 chronos on his nexus instead of warpgate research. Feel free to correct me if I'm off desrow.
And a question for desrow: This thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236948 says Rage has disbanded their sc2 division. As you are not listed among the teamless players, is it right to assume that this is a different Rage?
Cheers, love the stream.
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On June 24 2011 22:24 zturchan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 11:50 Jagungal wrote:
I am regular viewer of the stream - which is one of the best and very entertaining.
I was watching an archive this morning where he was power levelling for someone. It was pretty funny him advertising his coaching to them but a couple of times he said something like "oh .. you are doing a greedy 4 gate, now I am going to [beat you .. etc etc]".
Not the exact words .. but what is a greedy 4 gate and why do you suddenly know you are going to beat them ? As an avid watcher of desrow, it generally seems to me that a greedy 4 gate is one where the opponent uses more than 2 chronos on his nexus instead of warpgate research. Feel free to correct me if I'm off desrow. And a question for desrow: This thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236948 says Rage has disbanded their sc2 division. As you are not listed among the teamless players, is it right to assume that this is a different Rage? Cheers, love the stream.
I think it is discussing a different team of the same name.
The RAGE-esports SC2-team desRow is playing for (site: http://www.rage-esports.com/) is still alive afaik.
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On June 23 2011 11:50 Jagungal wrote:
I am regular viewer of the stream - which is one of the best and very entertaining.
I was watching an archive this morning where he was power levelling for someone. It was pretty funny him advertising his coaching to them but a couple of times he said something like "oh .. you are doing a greedy 4 gate, now I am going to [beat you .. etc etc]".
Not the exact words .. but what is a greedy 4 gate and why do you suddenly know you are going to beat them ?
when my oppo goes 3chrono on nexus hes being greedy so i 4gate him =P
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On June 24 2011 22:24 zturchan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 11:50 Jagungal wrote:
I am regular viewer of the stream - which is one of the best and very entertaining.
I was watching an archive this morning where he was power levelling for someone. It was pretty funny him advertising his coaching to them but a couple of times he said something like "oh .. you are doing a greedy 4 gate, now I am going to [beat you .. etc etc]".
Not the exact words .. but what is a greedy 4 gate and why do you suddenly know you are going to beat them ? As an avid watcher of desrow, it generally seems to me that a greedy 4 gate is one where the opponent uses more than 2 chronos on his nexus instead of warpgate research. Feel free to correct me if I'm off desrow. And a question for desrow: This thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236948 says Rage has disbanded their sc2 division. As you are not listed among the teamless players, is it right to assume that this is a different Rage? Cheers, love the stream.
that thread is about the team RG I'm still in RAGE
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Hey have you stopped streaming ? Im used to seeing your stream on almost ..... well....always haha. I miss it
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On June 27 2011 18:16 Avean wrote:Hey have you stopped streaming ? Im used to seeing your stream on almost ..... well....always haha. I miss it
I streamed for 7hours today =P and will be back tommorow !
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Ahaha Desrow, I remember one time when you were streaming you said "When life gives you lemons..... SUCK IT!! " LOL still cracks me up today =DDD
Big fan here =D
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On June 30 2011 02:49 Zakattack wrote:
Ahaha Desrow, I remember one time when you were streaming you said "When life gives you lemons..... SUCK IT!! " LOL still cracks me up today =DDD
Big fan here =D
<3 will be streaming tommorow
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salut mope ca va
hi mope whats up hahaha CS 1.6 old school ftw ;-P
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Have you run into the marine/hellion/tank with seige all-in? If so, how would you approach dealing with it. I have tried several things but am curious as to how you would approach it.
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im liking the stream, just a few points i wanna make.
Your gas mining seems to be a bit sloppy. One game where you contained the terran you had 4 on one gas all game. And then the next game was a pvp and you had only 2 on one of your gas. You should just check every so often
and then you had a good PvP, the one you should have won but you lost. You should have added dark shrine before you engaged alot of players wont have enough obs around. Even if you send a few to his main, taking out his gateways would have won you the game even if it meant his army killed yours, at least you could have remaxed
overall its a really good stream, like your play :D
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Nice Stream Keep it up
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On July 04 2011 23:53 Aldin_D2x wrote:
Have you run into the marine/hellion/tank with seige all-in? If so, how would you approach dealing with it. I have tried several things but am curious as to how you would approach it.
collosus stalker zealot
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If a protoss sees an enemy protoss go for a 4gate attack, but he doesn't want to go with a 4gate, what strategy should he use?
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On July 06 2011 06:57 Hyppo wrote:
If a protoss sees an enemy protoss go for a 4gate attack, but he doesn't want to go with a 4gate, what strategy should he use?
3gate robo 3gate or 4gate off 2gas
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Love watching this guy. Accent is hilarious and his gameplay is solid. Not a ton of Toss casters out there and here is one you will enjoy watching. GOGO DESROW
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nice immortal play, iv seen nagaseawitch use a mass immortal before against bio and roaches before and i must say they are pretty powerful when they hit that critical mass!
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Hihi DesRow love the stream. Was wondering, how do you deal with a more Spanishiwa-like style, for example ling bling ultra infestor? I've been running into it a lot and I'm having a really hard time dealing with it.
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hey desrow...
i have some problems with playin against zerg...
When i do 3 gate expand, whats the best follow up in ur opinion?
Thx for answering <3
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Why you bm Trump on your stream?
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More about vtdesrow
Hey guys, I'm a french canadian starcraft 2 player. I play protoss and I will be streaming high level practice and coaching session as well. My rate is 25$/hr. I can also grind/power-level(ladder your account) for 25$/hr up to masters. To schedule from now, you need to use this page: http://desrowfighting.com/schedule There is more information to read here: http://desrowfighting.com/coaching If you have any questions you can email me at this adress d3srow@gmail.com Here's my personal website: http://desrowfighting.com Here's m
bro i thought this was a violation of eula....also you ran commercials on your stream for ttesports the last time you power leveled an account on eu...sponsor ok with you basically cheating and pimping there keyboards. never made it to masters so i guess no harm done eh. just a question...when you power level an account do you actually log in as them and play as if you are them or do you give your opponents the opportunity to object and accept your offer to quit the game because you are going to steal points otherwise? just curious if you let your hapless ladder victims know they are getting cheated themselves and then leave ofc when they would rather not donate their points to your soon to be masters cheat accomplice....
btw...i dont like when professional gamers accept money to play on other peoples accounts. i believe you are victimizing people and should be removed from the featured streamers as a result...just my humble opinion. have a nice day sir
oh and this...you rage ban a lot of people for saying perfectly normal things in chat...i understand this is your chat and therefore yours to ban hammer all you want; however, most of them come back with different names and call you a fat and sloppy 4gater....i feel like you should know that the trolling is getting worse because a lot of the banned people are coming back and saying things that while they may seem like the harsh truth, really they are just jealous of your ENORMITY...not like "omg you/re so fucking fat!!!!" but like "damn that dood is colossal"
love the stream, i'm not a HUGE fan or anything but your gigantic personality keeps bringing me back even though i've known how the protoss early game works for a long time and really would prefer to watch someone that can macro more effectively past 2 bases. anyway keep up the good work and hey since you are only coaching masters and grandmasters students (according to your vanity site) maybe its time to put the cheating behind you and just work in the future to biggie-size your practice attitude with respect to your viewers....respecting the community that feeds you is cool.
good luck, if you keep power leveling, i hope it gets reported to blizzard and your sponsor, partners, and the rest of the professional community. it makes a mockery of the system to which, we have all dedicate at least some of our passion and in the case of your team and sponsors/partners MONEY. I believe it also smacks in the face the sense of fairness and good play that TLers are known for and so i really hope that you publicly come forward and state that you will no longer be power leveling other peoples accounts for money.
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On July 08 2011 06:59 EMsquared wrote:
Hihi DesRow love the stream. Was wondering, how do you deal with a more Spanishiwa-like style, for example ling bling ultra infestor? I've been running into it a lot and I'm having a really hard time dealing with it.
storm archon immortal and try to weaken their economy
On July 08 2011 07:13 neokain wrote:
hey desrow...
i have some problems with playin against zerg...
When i do 3 gate expand, whats the best follow up in ur opinion?
Thx for answering <3
that's a very generic question O_O try to get hallucination and react to what they do
On July 08 2011 09:32 Hyren wrote:Why you bm Trump on your stream?
I wasn't being BM, it was mild trashtalk because he sniped my natural and terran annoys me. He tried to switch to banshee get viking and snipe ur obs which is a very annoying style.
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On July 08 2011 12:10 smacky wrote:More about vtdesrow Hey guys, I'm a french canadian starcraft 2 player. I play protoss and I will be streaming high level practice and coaching session as well. My rate is 25$/hr. I can also grind/power-level(ladder your account) for 25$/hr up to masters. To schedule from now, you need to use this page: http://desrowfighting.com/schedule There is more information to read here: http://desrowfighting.com/coaching If you have any questions you can email me at this adress d3srow@gmail.com Here's my personal website: http://desrowfighting.com Here's m bro i thought this was a violation of eula....also you ran commercials on your stream for ttesports the last time you power leveled an account on eu...sponsor ok with you basically cheating and pimping there keyboards. never made it to masters so i guess no harm done eh. just a question...when you power level an account do you actually log in as them and play as if you are them or do you give your opponents the opportunity to object and accept your offer to quit the game because you are going to steal points otherwise? just curious if you let your hapless ladder victims know they are getting cheated themselves and then leave ofc when they would rather not donate their points to your soon to be masters cheat accomplice.... btw...i dont like when professional gamers accept money to play on other peoples accounts. i believe you are victimizing people and should be removed from the featured streamers as a result...just my humble opinion. have a nice day sir
thats just low desrow
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On July 08 2011 12:10 smacky wrote:More about vtdesrow Hey guys, I'm a french canadian starcraft 2 player. I play protoss and I will be streaming high level practice and coaching session as well. My rate is 25$/hr. I can also grind/power-level(ladder your account) for 25$/hr up to masters. To schedule from now, you need to use this page: http://desrowfighting.com/schedule There is more information to read here: http://desrowfighting.com/coaching If you have any questions you can email me at this adress d3srow@gmail.com Here's my personal website: http://desrowfighting.com Here's m bro i thought this was a violation of eula....also you ran commercials on your stream for ttesports the last time you power leveled an account on eu...sponsor ok with you basically cheating and pimping there keyboards. never made it to masters so i guess no harm done eh. just a question...when you power level an account do you actually log in as them and play as if you are them or do you give your opponents the opportunity to object and accept your offer to quit the game because you are going to steal points otherwise? just curious if you let your hapless ladder victims know they are getting cheated themselves and then leave ofc when they would rather not donate their points to your soon to be masters cheat accomplice.... btw...i dont like when professional gamers accept money to play on other peoples accounts. i believe you are victimizing people and should be removed from the featured streamers as a result...just my humble opinion. have a nice day sir
[mod edit: cat meme]
srsly though, I don't know why you're making such a big deal about this. A lot of people have been known to play and smurf on accounts, it seems like you're taking incredible offense to this for no reason.
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I think the more concerning thing is the fact people would actually pay to be put in a league they aren't worthy of.
Sad.
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On July 08 2011 12:10 smacky wrote:+ Show Spoiler +More about vtdesrow Hey guys, I'm a french canadian starcraft 2 player. I play protoss and I will be streaming high level practice and coaching session as well. My rate is 25$/hr. I can also grind/power-level(ladder your account) for 25$/hr up to masters. To schedule from now, you need to use this page: http://desrowfighting.com/schedule There is more information to read here: http://desrowfighting.com/coaching If you have any questions you can email me at this adress d3srow@gmail.com Here's my personal website: http://desrowfighting.com Here's m bro i thought this was a violation of eula....also you ran commercials on your stream for ttesports the last time you power leveled an account on eu...sponsor ok with you basically cheating and pimping there keyboards. never made it to masters so i guess no harm done eh. just a question...when you power level an account do you actually log in as them and play as if you are them or do you give your opponents the opportunity to object and accept your offer to quit the game because you are going to steal points otherwise? just curious if you let your hapless ladder victims know they are getting cheated themselves and then leave ofc when they would rather not donate their points to your soon to be masters cheat accomplice.... btw...i dont like when professional gamers accept money to play on other peoples accounts. i believe you are victimizing people and should be removed from the featured streamers as a result...just my humble opinion. have a nice day sir oh and this...you rage ban a lot of people for saying perfectly normal things in chat...i understand this is your chat and therefore yours to ban hammer all you want; however, most of them come back with different names and call you a fat and sloppy 4gater....i feel like you should know that the trolling is getting worse because a lot of the banned people are coming back and saying things that while they may seem like the harsh truth, really they are just jealous of your ENORMITY...not like "omg you/re so fucking fat!!!!" but like "damn that dood is colossal" love the stream, i'm not a HUGE fan or anything but your gigantic personality keeps bringing me back even though i've known how the protoss early game works for a long time and really would prefer to watch someone that can macro more effectively past 2 bases. anyway keep up the good work and hey since you are only coaching masters and grandmasters students (according to your vanity site) maybe its time to put the cheating behind you and just work in the future to biggie-size your practice attitude with respect to your viewers....respecting the community that feeds you is cool. good luck, if you keep power leveling, i hope it gets reported to blizzard and your sponsor, partners, and the rest of the professional community. it makes a mockery of the system to which, we have all dedicate at least some of our passion and in the case of your team and sponsors/partners MONEY. I believe it also smacks in the face the sense of fairness and good play that TLers are known for and so i really hope that you publicly come forward and state that you will no longer be power leveling other peoples accounts for money.
god why so sensitive w/e i removed it ill still advertise it vocally from time to time if people are willing to pay for something they want what's bad about it.. =/
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On July 08 2011 13:02 Hammer442 wrote:
I think the more concerning thing is the fact people would actually pay to be put in a league they aren't worthy of.
Sad.
I don't understand the allure of it.. Or why one would openly advertise such things.
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On July 08 2011 12:53 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 12:10 smacky wrote:More about vtdesrow Hey guys, I'm a french canadian starcraft 2 player. I play protoss and I will be streaming high level practice and coaching session as well. My rate is 25$/hr. I can also grind/power-level(ladder your account) for 25$/hr up to masters. To schedule from now, you need to use this page: http://desrowfighting.com/schedule There is more information to read here: http://desrowfighting.com/coaching If you have any questions you can email me at this adress d3srow@gmail.com Here's my personal website: http://desrowfighting.com Here's m bro i thought this was a violation of eula....also you ran commercials on your stream for ttesports the last time you power leveled an account on eu...sponsor ok with you basically cheating and pimping there keyboards. never made it to masters so i guess no harm done eh. just a question...when you power level an account do you actually log in as them and play as if you are them or do you give your opponents the opportunity to object and accept your offer to quit the game because you are going to steal points otherwise? just curious if you let your hapless ladder victims know they are getting cheated themselves and then leave ofc when they would rather not donate their points to your soon to be masters cheat accomplice.... btw...i dont like when professional gamers accept money to play on other peoples accounts. i believe you are victimizing people and should be removed from the featured streamers as a result...just my humble opinion. have a nice day sir [mod edit: cat meme] srsly though, I don't know why you're making such a big deal about this. A lot of people have been known to play and smurf on accounts, it seems like you're taking incredible offense to this for no reason.
playing and smurfing accounts is fundamentally different than simply palying for someone else and getting them to the highest reasonably obtainable league...i take offense...others should as well because as long as this practice is considered acceptable professional players (and others) wont just have a few secret accounts they can use in peace but the masters league will inevitably become just a joke that people hack/pay their way into
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On July 08 2011 13:04 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 12:10 smacky wrote:+ Show Spoiler +More about vtdesrow Hey guys, I'm a french canadian starcraft 2 player. I play protoss and I will be streaming high level practice and coaching session as well. My rate is 25$/hr. I can also grind/power-level(ladder your account) for 25$/hr up to masters. To schedule from now, you need to use this page: http://desrowfighting.com/schedule There is more information to read here: http://desrowfighting.com/coaching If you have any questions you can email me at this adress d3srow@gmail.com Here's my personal website: http://desrowfighting.com Here's m bro i thought this was a violation of eula....also you ran commercials on your stream for ttesports the last time you power leveled an account on eu...sponsor ok with you basically cheating and pimping there keyboards. never made it to masters so i guess no harm done eh. just a question...when you power level an account do you actually log in as them and play as if you are them or do you give your opponents the opportunity to object and accept your offer to quit the game because you are going to steal points otherwise? just curious if you let your hapless ladder victims know they are getting cheated themselves and then leave ofc when they would rather not donate their points to your soon to be masters cheat accomplice.... btw...i dont like when professional gamers accept money to play on other peoples accounts. i believe you are victimizing people and should be removed from the featured streamers as a result...just my humble opinion. have a nice day sir oh and this...you rage ban a lot of people for saying perfectly normal things in chat...i understand this is your chat and therefore yours to ban hammer all you want; however, most of them come back with different names and call you a fat and sloppy 4gater....i feel like you should know that the trolling is getting worse because a lot of the banned people are coming back and saying things that while they may seem like the harsh truth, really they are just jealous of your ENORMITY...not like "omg you/re so fucking fat!!!!" but like "damn that dood is colossal" love the stream, i'm not a HUGE fan or anything but your gigantic personality keeps bringing me back even though i've known how the protoss early game works for a long time and really would prefer to watch someone that can macro more effectively past 2 bases. anyway keep up the good work and hey since you are only coaching masters and grandmasters students (according to your vanity site) maybe its time to put the cheating behind you and just work in the future to biggie-size your practice attitude with respect to your viewers....respecting the community that feeds you is cool. good luck, if you keep power leveling, i hope it gets reported to blizzard and your sponsor, partners, and the rest of the professional community. it makes a mockery of the system to which, we have all dedicate at least some of our passion and in the case of your team and sponsors/partners MONEY. I believe it also smacks in the face the sense of fairness and good play that TLers are known for and so i really hope that you publicly come forward and state that you will no longer be power leveling other peoples accounts for money. god why so sensitive w/e i removed it ill still advertise it vocally from time to time if people are willing to pay for something they want what's bad about it.. =/
it is cheating...drop hack ok too bro?....im sure people wouldnt mind charging for hacks and what now if thats all it takes to make it perfectly acceptable.
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Some people really don't like it when people ignore the rules blizzard set up for a game, if someone is too much of a crybaby about this issue is completely irrelevant. Some "pros" do this despite of knowing the rules, therefore some people get pissed, rightfully so.
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On July 08 2011 13:07 smacky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 13:04 desrow wrote:On July 08 2011 12:10 smacky wrote:+ Show Spoiler +More about vtdesrow Hey guys, I'm a french canadian starcraft 2 player. I play protoss and I will be streaming high level practice and coaching session as well. My rate is 25$/hr. I can also grind/power-level(ladder your account) for 25$/hr up to masters. To schedule from now, you need to use this page: http://desrowfighting.com/schedule There is more information to read here: http://desrowfighting.com/coaching If you have any questions you can email me at this adress d3srow@gmail.com Here's my personal website: http://desrowfighting.com Here's m bro i thought this was a violation of eula....also you ran commercials on your stream for ttesports the last time you power leveled an account on eu...sponsor ok with you basically cheating and pimping there keyboards. never made it to masters so i guess no harm done eh. just a question...when you power level an account do you actually log in as them and play as if you are them or do you give your opponents the opportunity to object and accept your offer to quit the game because you are going to steal points otherwise? just curious if you let your hapless ladder victims know they are getting cheated themselves and then leave ofc when they would rather not donate their points to your soon to be masters cheat accomplice.... btw...i dont like when professional gamers accept money to play on other peoples accounts. i believe you are victimizing people and should be removed from the featured streamers as a result...just my humble opinion. have a nice day sir oh and this...you rage ban a lot of people for saying perfectly normal things in chat...i understand this is your chat and therefore yours to ban hammer all you want; however, most of them come back with different names and call you a fat and sloppy 4gater....i feel like you should know that the trolling is getting worse because a lot of the banned people are coming back and saying things that while they may seem like the harsh truth, really they are just jealous of your ENORMITY...not like "omg you/re so fucking fat!!!!" but like "damn that dood is colossal" love the stream, i'm not a HUGE fan or anything but your gigantic personality keeps bringing me back even though i've known how the protoss early game works for a long time and really would prefer to watch someone that can macro more effectively past 2 bases. anyway keep up the good work and hey since you are only coaching masters and grandmasters students (according to your vanity site) maybe its time to put the cheating behind you and just work in the future to biggie-size your practice attitude with respect to your viewers....respecting the community that feeds you is cool. good luck, if you keep power leveling, i hope it gets reported to blizzard and your sponsor, partners, and the rest of the professional community. it makes a mockery of the system to which, we have all dedicate at least some of our passion and in the case of your team and sponsors/partners MONEY. I believe it also smacks in the face the sense of fairness and good play that TLers are known for and so i really hope that you publicly come forward and state that you will no longer be power leveling other peoples accounts for money. god why so sensitive w/e i removed it ill still advertise it vocally from time to time if people are willing to pay for something they want what's bad about it.. =/ it is cheating...drop hack ok too bro?....im sure people wouldnt mind charging for hacks and what now if thats all it takes to make it perfectly acceptable.
I'm sorry you feel that way, good luck in your future endeavors.
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Wow, someone is all tore up about something. Hey smacky quit trolling and being a little bitch and fuck off. Good Day.
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On July 09 2011 12:19 SangSoul wrote:
Wow, someone is all tore up about something. Hey smacky quit trolling and being a little bitch and fuck off. Good Day.
i wonder if you bothered to get behind a proxy before you made a new account to come here and call me a bitch...so the mods cant ban your real account, you know how it works...maybe.
anyway, if you want to come at me and get me all mad and worked up, use your real account and have something interesting to say too cause i got nothin to do bro, i'll read your baby eating troll posts all night. entertain me clown entertain me
im not even gonna report it...goodnight dude who isn't articulate or aware enough to say something that will both make me angry and make a point.
btw desrow: you too bro, thanks for at least responding. i can, if nothing else,respect that you are gonna do whatever you want to do. i would've honestly lost a little respect for you had you been more inclined to acquiesce in the face of a contrary position. later bro good luck in anaheim
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Awesome stream. go watch it- if you don't i'll hount you forever and ever and ever. jk go see it Desrow have the sexiest moves on jtv an he's simply awesome to see gamming on day after day.
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boring stream, this guy isnt even good
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yea i dunno why he calls himself a professional when hes made like $200 in a year of his 'job'. i beat him on ladder with ease and i dont even play anymore. usad bruh
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On July 14 2011 21:51 bLingKing wrote:
yea i dunno why he calls himself a professional when hes made like $200 in a year of his 'job'. i beat him on ladder with ease and i dont even play anymore. usad bruh
You mad bro? I've seen Desrow do some sick stuff. Professional's don't play the game for money they do it for the love of the game and the community if you watch any after-final interview 9/10 players just care about the trophy not the money.
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On July 08 2011 12:10 smacky wrote:
More about vtdesrow
Hey guys, I'm a french canadian starcraft 2 player. I play protoss and I will be streaming high level practice and coaching session as well. My rate is 25$/hr. I can also grind/power-level(ladder your account) for 25$/hr up to masters.
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Anyway keep up the good work and hey since you are only coaching masters and grandmasters students (according to your vanity site) maybe its time to put the cheating behind you and just work in the future to biggie-size your practice attitude with respect to your viewers....respecting the community that feeds you is cool.
How to get coaching from desRow as a non-masters or GM player in 3 very very easy steps:
1- Get your account power level'd by desRow
2- Become masters
3- Call him back for coaching.
I hope he does some discount in coaching prices for the people who got him to power level their account because both those services may be a bit costly.
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professionals play for the love of the game and for money, and yea they play for trophies which = money. Desrow has never won anything significant, and never will. I'm not hating im just being realistic, the guy is average at best
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THIS IS THE BEST STREAMMMM :D <3
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What is the build u normaly do in PvT ??
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Commenting on the stream, Desrow is likely to be far better than you anyways, an he comments on his games afterwards, so you get a bit of strategy watching his games. His chat is friendly, and he regularly reads and responds to it. Even as a terran player, I'd recommend his stream.
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Really like ur stream and watch to learn .... i have been using phoenix opening lately vs terran but i dont see any1 else using it ... i want to know what counters phoenix like phoenix stop hellion blue flame drops banshees or early marine drop but still nobody uses at high level sc2 tourneys , streams. low masters protoss. and yeah i only 4 gate in pvp coz i dont know anything else ... is it ok to just do 4 gate all time?
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Desrow, I asked you this on your stream and you directed me here and my question is how do you deal with infestors. They are the only unit in the unit in the game i have no idea how do deal with. People say herp derp feed back, except when a zerg is watching their army (which they should be doing when they have an infestor army) they can easily fungle your HTs before you are able to feed back because they have the same range BUT fungle have a radius of 2 so it can hit units 11 units away. So if HTs cant do it, colossus are my next thought. The problem is that with the increase of the use of neural, the zerg will 99% of the time have equal or more infestors to the number of colossus, they steal your colossus kill your units then you are done. My next thought is DT's but again if the zerg is watching their army they fungle your DT's before they can do anything. Just looking for ideas, correct me if i have made any incorrect statements. Im just a lost plat toss looking for some info.
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On July 18 2011 02:40 astral96 wrote:
What is the build u normaly do in PvT ??
2gate robo or 3gate both with an expand
On July 18 2011 02:43 Rykros wrote:
Really like ur stream and watch to learn .... i have been using phoenix opening lately vs terran but i dont see any1 else using it ... i want to know what counters phoenix like phoenix stop hellion blue flame drops banshees or early marine drop but still nobody uses at high level sc2 tourneys , streams. low masters protoss. and yeah i only 4 gate in pvp coz i dont know anything else ... is it ok to just do 4 gate all time?
2phoenix is 1 collosus in ressources just think about that it makes it hard to hold bio push if you plan on expending
pvp go for 1base collosus or 3gate robo blink and take a hidden expo the 2nd option is the best way to play the matchup in my opinion.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2011 02:48 ExorArgus wrote:
Desrow, I asked you this on your stream and you directed me here and my question is how do you deal with infestors. They are the only unit in the unit in the game i have no idea how do deal with. People say herp derp feed back, except when a zerg is watching their army (which they should be doing when they have an infestor army) they can easily fungle your HTs before you are able to feed back because they have the same range BUT fungle have a radius of 2 so it can hit units 11 units away. So if HTs cant do it, colossus are my next thought. The problem is that with the increase of the use of neural, the zerg will 99% of the time have equal or more infestors to the number of colossus, they steal your colossus kill your units then you are done. My next thought is DT's but again if the zerg is watching their army they fungle your DT's before they can do anything. Just looking for ideas, correct me if i have made any incorrect statements. Im just a lost plat toss looking for some info.
Infestors get some feedback or collosus but collosus is really risky cus they can neural parasite you and I think your obsessing too much with infestors, look at how many bases he has look at how many bases u have are u harasrsing with warp prism? did u let him drone all game ? there's alot of factors beside getting owned by infestors
and don'T worry I think they're ridiculous too :D
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Hey desrow, I watch your stream a lot and have been having some trouble in recent games particularly when doing a 4-gate build.
Heavy marauder/roach play just seems to stomp all over my units, was wondering what advice you would give for this scenario.
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On July 18 2011 03:47 Darthmatto wrote:
Hey desrow, I watch your stream a lot and have been having some trouble in recent games particularly when doing a 4-gate build.
Heavy marauder/roach play just seems to stomp all over my units, was wondering what advice you would give for this scenario.
4gate is actually a really bad build it's successful if the opponent is teching or being greedy (zerg mostly)
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Hi Desrow! I am a high diamond player in Europe looking to get to masters in season 3. But what I am struggling against a lot lately is Terrans doing timing attacks when they have 2 or 4 medivacs. I usually open my build with a 1 gate FE or 3 gate FE. With my units I can scout the need of any early robo facility. When I see a terran standard marine marauder ball I add 2 more gateways, a forge and twilight council. The problem is that the terran usually does his timing attack right before my upgrades have finished. Even with perfect FF and guardian shield I am not able to kill his first wave because of the medivacs. Note that he has slow and stim too.
What can I do to defend against this?
Thanks
/Evire
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On July 18 2011 06:23 Evire wrote:
Hi Desrow! I am a high diamond player in Europe looking to get to masters in season 3. But what I am struggling against a lot lately is Terrans doing timing attacks when they have 2 or 4 medivacs. I usually open my build with a 1 gate FE or 3 gate FE. With my units I can scout the need of any early robo facility. When I see a terran standard marine marauder ball I add 2 more gateways, a forge and twilight council. The problem is that the terran usually does his timing attack right before my upgrades have finished. Even with perfect FF and guardian shield I am not able to kill his first wave because of the medivacs. Note that he has slow and stim too.
What can I do to defend against this?
Thanks
/Evire
You need aoe, gateway units can't beat bio medivac without sick upgrades or aoe, if you can't beat his army forcefield him out so at least he wasteenergy on his medivac
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hey man, im masters eu players and been watching your stream a bit and noticed this build, and i like it alot. could you please got to the trouble of telling me the BO and just some general tips and reactions to what he's doing? pvp is my hardest matchup, i would appreciate the help.
thanks!
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Love your stream!
desrow interested to know what do you think of the MC PvZ style of VR expand into heavy air harras?
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On July 19 2011 00:33 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Love your stream!
desrow interested to know what do you think of the MC PvZ style of VR expand into heavy air harras?
it's viable, def not standard
On July 18 2011 23:55 FenneK wrote:
hey man, im masters eu players and been watching your stream a bit and noticed this build, and i like it alot. could you please got to the trouble of telling me the BO and just some general tips and reactions to what he's doing? pvp is my hardest matchup, i would appreciate the help.
thanks!
what build?
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Heyhoo,
i am searching the PvP built is saw desrow often playing, it´s 3 Gate blink Stalker with a observer and a hidden expo. It looks pretty solid for a Blink play.
thx
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On July 19 2011 23:42 DarkQ wrote:
Heyhoo,
i am searching the PvP built is saw desrow often playing, it´s 3 Gate blink Stalker with a observer and a hidden expo. It looks pretty solid for a Blink play.
thx
go 2gate robo or 3gate robo depending on your scouting then add a twillight after observer if u think hes rushing blink stalker make an immortal or 2
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hello desrow
I wonder how you play on both EU and NA?
Have you 2 starcraft 2, or have you done something else ?
GL HF ♥
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On July 21 2011 18:34 ZorroW wrote:
hello desrow
I wonder how you play on both EU and NA?
Have you 2 starcraft 2, or have you done something else ?
GL HF ♥
you have to d/l both clients
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do you recommend double scouting on tal'darim altar if you forge fast expand vs zerg?
also whats your internet provider. i live in ontario and all of the providers have bandwith caps so im not sure how u can stream all day.
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THIS IS MY MOMENT, MY MOMENT IT"S MY TIME, FLYING HIGH, LIME, MINE
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Just started watching your stream and I'm loving it!!! Keep up the good work bro
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On July 23 2011 19:16 facemelterr wrote:
do you recommend double scouting on tal'darim altar if you forge fast expand vs zerg?
also whats your internet provider. i live in ontario and all of the providers have bandwith caps so im not sure how u can stream all day.
yes
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On July 23 2011 19:16 facemelterr wrote:
do you recommend double scouting on tal'darim altar if you forge fast expand vs zerg?
also whats your internet provider. i live in ontario and all of the providers have bandwith caps so im not sure how u can stream all day.
i pay 120$ per month for my internet and double scout against zerg on taldarim yes
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I have a question. What do you do against terran on close positions (metal and temple)? It seems that it is almost impossible to play a normal pvt on theses positions because i feel like the terran can put pressure on you very easily if you are aiming to go for a mid/late game play.
Ty in advance.
Desrow fighting!!!!
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On July 25 2011 02:04 ForeverSleep wrote:
I have a question. What do you do against terran on close positions (metal and temple)? It seems that it is almost impossible to play a normal pvt on theses positions because i feel like the terran can put pressure on you very easily if you are aiming to go for a mid/late game play.
Ty in advance.
Desrow fighting!!!!
3gate robo blink all in or with an expand
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when you fe forge , what are you doing if the guy goes roach lings all-in ? thanks
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What is your favourite matchup and why?
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On July 29 2011 06:59 chivu wrote:
What is your favourite matchup and why?
right now im a bit sick of every matchup but terran is most fun
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desrow why arent you going to MLG anaheim
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On July 29 2011 10:17 BlackGosu wrote:desrow why arent you going to MLG anaheim
I have no team, it's too expensive to pay out of my pocket esp since it's on the west coast
On July 29 2011 06:34 b0yer8402 wrote:
when you fe forge , what are you doing if the guy goes roach lings all-in ? thanks
more cannons if you know he's going all in, your question is pretty generic sorry if it's not a detailed answer.
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desrow why you don't FFE vs Zerg on Antiga Shipyard?
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DESROW!!!!! Broski is amazing
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On August 01 2011 22:47 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
desrow why you don't FFE vs Zerg on Antiga Shipyard?
Forge FE is not always the best option
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Love the stream man. A word to the wise though, I might avoid streaming the account boosting/leveling in the future. Everyone seemed to dislike the overlay and it's probably best that you don't publicize that activity.
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On August 02 2011 14:29 dynabetes wrote:
Love the stream man. A word to the wise though, I might avoid streaming the account boosting/leveling in the future. Everyone seemed to dislike the overlay and it's probably best that you don't publicize that activity.
I thought about it and it's not an issue for me.
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Hiya dude! Great stream, really been enjoying it so far!
But I´ve got one question, what do u use for streaming and what are you computer speccs? printscreen your settings if possible
Got issues when I try
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Man, why did you have to ban me? Trolling you is so rewarding.
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why did you ignore meeee?? lolololol
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So you stream yourself leveling diamond accounts.
And you're featured?
I don't understand. Well at least your quality is very good, way better then most. GL
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Just disapointed to desrow about this power leveling t.t
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There's a market, and the guy makes cash off it, which allowed him to keep playing. I don't get why everyone is crying about this so much.
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So true Moltenlead, seeing as desrow isnt top 10 worldwide yet, it can be hard to make money off of gaming, and that can result in him having to get a job, which would greatly decrease his practice time. He needs money, and he can get money doing this, so let him please ! its not like its all the time at all,
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Great stream and very interactive streamer! He answers some questions and makes it a very great learning experience cause he will recap small points after each game he plays. Very humble and good player.
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On August 06 2011 04:16 [uci] Fizik wrote:
Great stream and very interactive streamer! He answers some questions and makes it a very great learning experience cause he will recap small points after each game he plays. Very humble and good player.
thanks ^_ ^ <3
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why are people bitching about him levling accounts?
if people want to pay him money for it why not? it dosent even hurt anyone that he does it
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On August 07 2011 01:35 Knutzi wrote:
why are people bitching about him levling accounts?
if people want to pay him money for it why not? it dosent even hurt anyone that he does it
I agree but it's against TL's policy so I can't do it anymore =(
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Hi i have a question about taking a 3gate expo on scrap station. Cant zerg deny the expo at 5:50 mark with making 16 zerglings? Are sentries viable enough to take out the zerglings?For example if zerg makes 16 zerglings at 5:50 mark and at 6:29 zerg has 40 lings, are sentries still potent enough to take out all the lings?
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Des.
Playlist today was on point
Care to share some the artists that you played ?
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On August 09 2011 02:40 Optionselect wrote:Des. Playlist today was on point Care to share some the artists that you played ?
it's this site
http://vip.aersia.net/vip.swf
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Hi Desrow, First thanks for streaming like you do because i´t helps a lot! I have a question. Actually some terran just raping me with marines + 2-3 banshee + 3thor 1 base all in, i dont find a way to stop it even if I scout it... What´s the best to do? thanks!!
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[stratagy question]
I have a serious problem with zerg. Yesterday, I was 7 pooled 3 times in a row by 3 different people on 3 different 4 player maps. They all did the identical build. They made an overlord and had like 10 lings and a constant stream of lings.
Every single time, I scouted them last, so there was no way I could prepare in time with a cannon. My core was pretty much done and I was making a zealot. I blocked the chock with a pylon so they couldnt get in. 10 lings come to my ramp and start killing my gateway.
Since 1 zealot cannot get in position to defend against 10 lings, I chronoed 2 zealots out of my gate before the gateway died, pulled almost all my probes and tried to defend. All my probes ended up dying and the zealots only killed about half of them. By the end of this cheese, the zerg had like 20 lings in my base.
How is it possible to stop this on a 4 player map when you scout them last? Even if i send 2 scouts out (which fucks up econ SO badly that early in the game) I can STILL scout them last and not have time to defend.
Thanks.
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I have one problem every time I play a fast expansion, my opponent crush me with mass roaches or he double expaned. What can I do?
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On January 09 2011 22:38 LevenT wrote:
i play sc2 only
btw u need better music for your stream
and also u need to watch for more cheese, just this game vs magic carpet
i think he cud have cheesed u :D
are you actually good at sc2?
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On August 18 2011 23:28 chivu wrote:
I have one problem every time I play a fast expansion, my opponent crush me with mass roaches or he double expaned. What can I do?
get hallu if u dont see alot of drones cut probes get ready for mass roach if u see double expand put alot of pressure
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On August 06 2011 01:11 moltenlead wrote:
There's a market, and the guy makes cash off it, which allowed him to keep playing. I don't get why everyone is crying about this so much.
It's against the TOS to power level an account.
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I love how desrow always answers the easy questions that a gold leaguer can answer but he never answers the more difficult ones such as this-
Prostituto - "Hi Desrow, First thanks for streaming like you do because i´t helps a lot! I have a question. Actually some terran just raping me with marines + 2-3 banshee + 3thor 1 base all in, i dont find a way to stop it even if I scout it... What´s the best to do? thanks!! "
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On August 19 2011 03:18 RaKooNs wrote:
I love how desrow always answers the easy questions that a gold leaguer can answer but he never answers the more difficult ones such as this-
Prostituto - "Hi Desrow, First thanks for streaming like you do because i´t helps a lot! I have a question. Actually some terran just raping me with marines + 2-3 banshee + 3thor 1 base all in, i dont find a way to stop it even if I scout it... What´s the best to do? thanks!! "
Thanks for hating. Thanks for hating on my z33k coaching page, on my youtube channel, my twitter page and by sending me emails. I wish you the best in finding a new hobby and getting a life.
as for the other questions I missed em somehow sorry.
I don't think I've not answered on purpose any single question in this thread, I appreciate people asking me for advice as I love to help people. I don't do it in my stream chat because it takes time and concentration away from my practice sessions
On August 10 2011 19:24 Protosito wrote:
Hi Desrow, First thanks for streaming like you do because i´t helps a lot! I have a question. Actually some terran just raping me with marines + 2-3 banshee + 3thor 1 base all in, i dont find a way to stop it even if I scout it... What´s the best to do? thanks!!
3thors take actually alot of time to come. I haven't played that push in a while but 5gate 1robo with 2collosus and once the marines r melted attack the thors and try to kill the SCV's surrounding the thors in the process. Also about 8 stalker to take out the banshee rest of units should be zealot.
On August 18 2011 23:28 ishyishy wrote:
[stratagy question]
I have a serious problem with zerg. Yesterday, I was 7 pooled 3 times in a row by 3 different people on 3 different 4 player maps. They all did the identical build. They made an overlord and had like 10 lings and a constant stream of lings.
Every single time, I scouted them last, so there was no way I could prepare in time with a cannon. My core was pretty much done and I was making a zealot. I blocked the chock with a pylon so they couldnt get in. 10 lings come to my ramp and start killing my gateway.
Since 1 zealot cannot get in position to defend against 10 lings, I chronoed 2 zealots out of my gate before the gateway died, pulled almost all my probes and tried to defend. All my probes ended up dying and the zealots only killed about half of them. By the end of this cheese, the zerg had like 20 lings in my base.
How is it possible to stop this on a 4 player map when you scout them last? Even if i send 2 scouts out (which fucks up econ SO badly that early in the game) I can STILL scout them last and not have time to defend.
Thanks.
I don't remember getting 6pool'd on a 4player map but better micro with probes and try to fight at the choke of your ramp would probably help a lot (don't let all the lings inside your base)
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[quoteI don't remember getting 6pool'd on a 4player map but better micro with probes and try to fight at the choke of your ramp would probably help a lot (don't let all the lings inside your base][/quote]
Well this happens so damn often in diamond league lol, i can understand why it doesnt happen to you. But I'm sure you can understand that if they send an overlord to close air, and a drone to close ground, if im not at one of those 2 spots they can conclude that I am cross positions. Its very obvious and Im sure you know that. But that is how they have been getting away with it. I seem to ALWAYS ALWAYS scout my opponent last on 4 player maps. Guess that is proof that luck does exist in sc2 to come extent.
Thanks for answering my question. Is there any other advise you can give? Is 2 probe scouts on 4 player maps viable at all, or is that just oo much of an econ disadvantage?
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On August 20 2011 04:41 ishyishy wrote:
[quoteI don't remember getting 6pool'd on a 4player map but better micro with probes and try to fight at the choke of your ramp would probably help a lot (don't let all the lings inside your base]
Well this happens so damn often in diamond league lol, i can understand why it doesnt happen to you. But I'm sure you can understand that if they send an overlord to close air, and a drone to close ground, if im not at one of those 2 spots they can conclude that I am cross positions. Its very obvious and Im sure you know that. But that is how they have been getting away with it. I seem to ALWAYS ALWAYS scout my opponent last on 4 player maps. Guess that is proof that luck does exist in sc2 to come extent.
Thanks for answering my question. Is there any other advise you can give? Is 2 probe scouts on 4 player maps viable at all, or is that just oo much of an econ disadvantage?
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I wouldn't go as far as doing double scout but like I said better micro with probes set hotkey for camera location and pull low hp probes back to mineral line etc
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Hi Des, good games on Teamspeak TL open, cu on stream
-Loeder-
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Gratz on taking a game from Idra in the Teamspeak! Hillarious raging
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jeffosho here hello desrow ^^ good stuff
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Hey des, glad to see you streaming regularly again. Congrats on getting Korean Masters.
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Desrow fighting ! best stream around, one of the very few where player talks to his audience, explains his thought process and being badass in the same time :D !
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hey hey
desrow, your last replay pack is from what version?
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Great stream, love the commentary.
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Desrowfighting! awesome stream =d
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Best stream ive seen keep it up!
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hey desrow....what is the most efficient way of dealing with Terran 1-1-1
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On August 30 2011 23:27 dsue wrote:
hey desrow....what is the most efficient way of dealing with Terran 1-1-1
if you went 1gate fe or 2gate robo expand go for 5gate 1robo zealot immortal stalker sentry if u didnt make an expand stay on 4gate and try to flank/backstab the tanks with a couple zealots that helps too its really hard just try to micro your best
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what if zergs goes ling roach allin and you fast expoed, do u sack expo and stay up ur ramp or try to defend your expo cuz if it goes down you re terribly behind ?
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hi desrow, we played a game yesturday as you may remember, and the thing i want to ask is when you did that 3 gate stalker attack, if i would have hold what follow up would you do ?
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On September 01 2011 22:20 inermis wrote:
what if zergs goes ling roach allin and you fast expoed, do u sack expo and stay up ur ramp or try to defend your expo cuz if it goes down you re terribly behind ?
your question is too generic (dont specify any timings T_T)
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On September 03 2011 18:36 ZorroW wrote:
hi desrow, we played a game yesturday as you may remember, and the thing i want to ask is when you did that 3 gate stalker attack, if i would have hold what follow up would you do ?
Depends how much I lost, I didn't cut/commit much gas so i can choose any transition
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Hey desrow are you still streaming? Have not seen you for quite some time
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On September 15 2011 05:38 blowfish wrote:
Hey desrow are you still streaming? Have not seen you for quite some time
my bandwith is capped till sunday I recorded a bunch of games locally that will uploaded to youtube on sunday as well (since now I can post videos that are longer than 15min^^)
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Indeed - happy birthday des!
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That must have been one of the most epic Q&A sessions ever. :D
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On September 25 2011 06:32 AlternativeEgo wrote:
That must have been one of the most epic Q&A sessions ever. :D
indeed it was =)
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Hi desrow, I have had a really hard time laddering these two days. I had 20 more wins than loss and 1000 points ranked 20 masters. Now I am only 4 games positive with 879 points. This isn't a question about strategy, this is a question about dealing with bad ladder sessions, rage and tilts. How can I stop this? I feel like a total jerk when I rage to my friends, and I am having a hard time trying not to rage in this post.
Thanks
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On September 27 2011 04:22 Evire wrote:
Hi desrow, I have had a really hard time laddering these two days. I had 20 more wins than loss and 1000 points ranked 20 masters. Now I am only 4 games positive with 879 points. This isn't a question about strategy, this is a question about dealing with bad ladder sessions, rage and tilts. How can I stop this? I feel like a total jerk when I rage to my friends, and I am having a hard time trying not to rage in this post.
Thanks
Battle.net wants you to have 50% winratio unless you have very talented (top50 of ladder) your win ratio will always lurk around 50% you went down from 20wins more than loss to 4 because battle.net gave you thougher opponents. Stop thinking about the stats and think about what you can improve and watch the replays and think about the game, your mistakes and your opponent's mistakes and timing window you could have abused. also if you are frustrated just go watch a movie or do something else and come with a clear mind. and please don't turn to the dark side, we already have idra and all the balance whiners out there we dont need more of them :D
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On September 27 2011 05:18 desRow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 04:22 Evire wrote:
Hi desrow, I have had a really hard time laddering these two days. I had 20 more wins than loss and 1000 points ranked 20 masters. Now I am only 4 games positive with 879 points. This isn't a question about strategy, this is a question about dealing with bad ladder sessions, rage and tilts. How can I stop this? I feel like a total jerk when I rage to my friends, and I am having a hard time trying not to rage in this post.
Thanks
Battle.net wants you to have 50% winratio unless you have very talented (top50 of ladder) your win ratio will always lurk around 50% you went down from 20wins more than loss to 4 because battle.net gave you thougher opponents. Stop thinking about the stats and think about what you can improve and watch the replays and think about the game, your mistakes and your opponent's mistakes and timing window you could have abused. also if you are frustrated just go watch a movie or do something else and come with a clear mind. and please don't turn to the dark side, we already have idra and all the balance whiners out there we dont need more of them :D
Why do you feel the need to pick idra out, he is known to rage, but he gets enough backlash about it already. Also, if you start losing you should take a break, helps sooth your mind.
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Desrow lately i have been thinking about going 1 stargate after Forge fast expand PvZ. Whith the stargate i make 2 voids and scout for mutas/ deny third. When i take my 3th and scout muta i go Dt blink stalker archon. To take down further expansions and to get pressure of me. What are your thoughts/opinions on that? is it good?( btw using archons 2 against muata)
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Great quality stream with excellent commentary. Gives great insight into his own thought process as well as what the opponent is doing.
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Desrow, I found your stream a few weeks ago and liked it, but today really made me a fan.
Great commentary during your ladder games, and that was an exciting run through the TL Open. And you had a great, passionate attitude throughout it all. Whatever you had for breakfast, make it a ritual.
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He had ToD and Deezer on skype. ToD and Deezer. That's not the duo one would have guessed in a thou-...many, many, times.
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On October 02 2011 10:10 Croyable wrote:
Desrow, I found your stream a few weeks ago and liked it, but today really made me a fan.
Great commentary during your ladder games, and that was an exciting run through the TL Open. And you had a great, passionate attitude throughout it all. Whatever you had for breakfast, make it a ritual.
hahahh
thanks <3
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On September 30 2011 20:35 Afelay wrote:
Desrow lately i have been thinking about going 1 stargate after Forge fast expand PvZ. Whith the stargate i make 2 voids and scout for mutas/ deny third. When i take my 3th and scout muta i go Dt blink stalker archon. To take down further expansions and to get pressure of me. What are your thoughts/opinions on that? is it good?( btw using archons 2 against muata)
Not my style and I don't think u'd do well against a good muta player
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How do you play against stargate PvP? i feel like you're so contained especially when they get up to like 10ish phoenixs. They just expand and put up cannons so you can't just DT them.
My standard PvP opening is usually robo/twilight -> immortals and blink. I feel like i have to leave stalkers at my main to fend off phoenixs, but if you don't have enough they can just lift your stalkers and kill them. In addition, if i use all my stalkers then they can just go to my main entrance and pick up my zealots/immortals. Should i just be keeping everything together? The most annoying part i feel is getting your own expansion up, because they just lift every probe you're sending to expand.
He gets absolute vision of you, you can't really do an early attack from my experience. Phoenixs + cannons negate your ground army advantage and just win them the fight from my experience. Can't even blink micro against like 6+ phoenixes.
I feel like stargate openings force macro games, where your opponent can't harass you and you can freely harass them and have infinite vision of their base/tech path. I feel like the only way to beat this is to just go blind dt's everygame, but blind dt's loses to any robo build.
Your thoughts?
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yo desRow, you found my stream haha! we should talk a little more about it maybe you can tell me how to get more than .. 3 viewers at any given moment T_T
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On October 10 2011 00:47 Sakagami wrote:
How do you play against stargate PvP? i feel like you're so contained especially when they get up to like 10ish phoenixs. They just expand and put up cannons so you can't just DT them.
My standard PvP opening is usually robo/twilight -> immortals and blink. I feel like i have to leave stalkers at my main to fend off phoenixs, but if you don't have enough they can just lift your stalkers and kill them. In addition, if i use all my stalkers then they can just go to my main entrance and pick up my zealots/immortals. Should i just be keeping everything together? The most annoying part i feel is getting your own expansion up, because they just lift every probe you're sending to expand.
He gets absolute vision of you, you can't really do an early attack from my experience. Phoenixs + cannons negate your ground army advantage and just win them the fight from my experience. Can't even blink micro against like 6+ phoenixes.
I feel like stargate openings force macro games, where your opponent can't harass you and you can freely harass them and have infinite vision of their base/tech path. I feel like the only way to beat this is to just go blind dt's everygame, but blind dt's loses to any robo build.
Your thoughts?
I don't like the tone of your message it sounds like you are clouded by frustration. If you are afraid your zealots/sentrys will be lift up, keep them next to your stalker. Only replay I could think of
http://drop.sc/42636
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Great Stream when he does Q&A and he commentary on his gameplay which is good to understand the game better.i give desrows' stream a +1 :D
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I love your stream <3 You're very good and funny i love it when you sing >;3
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Just started watching your stream, I'm just a Platinum Protoss.
I'm probably the stream-viewing equivalent of a lurker - I rarely join the chat. You said today to post if people liked your stream, so here I am: posting that I like your stream!
Like the guy above me, I really enjoy your commentary and feel my understanding of the game increases when I watch. Great stream, great guy, great games, man. Good luck in any tournaments you enter
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On October 14 2011 05:49 SeaSwift wrote:Just started watching your stream, I'm just a Platinum Protoss. I'm probably the stream-viewing equivalent of a lurker - I rarely join the chat. You said today to post if people liked your stream, so here I am: posting that I like your stream! Like the guy above me, I really enjoy your commentary and feel my understanding of the game increases when I watch. Great stream, great guy, great games, man. Good luck in any tournaments you enter
thanks ^_ ^ and the 2 guys be=fore him as well ^_ ^
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Im recently having big trouble with zerg who go mass muta. I try to go archons or blink stalkers when i scout spire but most of the time im running after the mutas and they kill too much probes or production that im loosing to a maxed zerg in the end that is just overrunning me with lings. Anyone has any tips to give?
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Yo desRow. I dont have a question atm, but i just wanted to share this cool site i found with you. Not sure if you already checked it out, but its a site that tells you how many prizemoney every single pro player has won. MC at number with with like 150k Euro, all the way down to lesser know people. its a really cool site i think, check it out if you have time. Otherwise, ignore this post ! <3<3
Your awesome btw
http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/prizes
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Is a 2gate opening good vs Terran? and any good ways to open vs Zerg?
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Im banned from your stream chat .. can you unban me?
Regards
Stig
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On October 18 2011 02:18 Stiig wrote:
Is a 2gate opening good vs Terran? and any good ways to open vs Zerg?
not a fan of 2 gate opening vs terran but that sounds safe good way to open vs zerg 3gate pressure or forge fe
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Hey Desrow, i've been following and enjoying your stream for a while, i really like the way you talk about and explain what you're doing ingame. Reminds me of what White-ra does sometimes, and i can't give higher praise than comparing someone to the great Grandpa-toss.
I have a question for you. Do you think that opening with 2gate zealot-pressure after a FFE, like what Kiwikaki is doing lately, is a solid opening in PvZ or is it just a gimmick that will stop being useful as soon as Zergs get used to it and start prepaing for it? I personaly really like the way it gives me the opportunity to pressure a little after a FFE, but it does set you back in tech even more than a 'regular' FFE.
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Hey Desrow,
I'm a Gold level terran but have been trying to switch over to toss (your stream has inspired me). Right before the lock I was demoted to silver and have been struggling here as toss. I usually fall to early terran rushes (not necessarily 1-1-1 but also rine rauder rushes). Do you have any advice to how I can maintain a strong economy through expanding as well as keeping an army to deal with these early pushes? Thanks
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On October 18 2011 22:14 Shkudde wrote:
Hey Desrow, i've been following and enjoying your stream for a while, i really like the way you talk about and explain what you're doing ingame. Reminds me of what White-ra does sometimes, and i can't give higher praise than comparing someone to the great Grandpa-toss.
I have a question for you. Do you think that opening with 2gate zealot-pressure after a FFE, like what Kiwikaki is doing lately, is a solid opening in PvZ or is it just a gimmick that will stop being useful as soon as Zergs get used to it and start prepaing for it? I personaly really like the way it gives me the opportunity to pressure a little after a FFE, but it does set you back in tech even more than a 'regular' FFE.
I believe he did that because he knew stephano prefered lings to roaches. I don't like it I used to do it but.. =(
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On October 19 2011 02:04 Pog wrote:
Hey Desrow,
I'm a Gold level terran but have been trying to switch over to toss (your stream has inspired me). Right before the lock I was demoted to silver and have been struggling here as toss. I usually fall to early terran rushes (not necessarily 1-1-1 but also rine rauder rushes). Do you have any advice to how I can maintain a strong economy through expanding as well as keeping an army to deal with these early pushes? Thanks
better mechanics/micro so play alot = p comes with experience^^
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how do you "safely" expand pvp on 2 player map like xel?
What do you think of this new pheonix play pvp? Is it going to replace robo builds?
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On October 23 2011 02:35 stillearning wrote:
how do you "safely" expand pvp on 2 player map like xel?
What do you think of this new pheonix play pvp? Is it going to replace robo builds?
you expand if you have a lead or if u have enough gas for blink + sentry
i dont like phoenix at all i beat it all the time
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Hey Desrow. How come you play on low graphics?
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On October 26 2011 23:43 Frocal wrote:
Hey Desrow. How come you play on low graphics?
low graphics is a lot more clear and less confusing.
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I kinda like keyboard view but i think a face camera would give more entertainment to the stream. Makes it more personal.
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I believe that the pros and cons are both bigger with the face-cam. I guess my biggest concern is about the chat, which we all know can be pretty damn pathetic at times. This new, sweet, awesome feature would probably multiply the amount of sad kids who believe it is their duty to convey their views on weight and such. That can easily ruin the good stream experience for those who can not ignore those bad seeds, and at worse make them choose not to come back.
I do believe that you may re-evaluate your (non) moderation policy if so.
That's just a big "if" and something of a worse case scenario that you can take into consideration tho. Maybe try it for a week or so and see how it goes. I would love it and I think that the viewer number will increase quite significantly with a more personal and entertaining stream, as Avean pointed out.
As for the keyboard? Meh..that's not for me, but I'm sure there's a lot of viewers who finds it interesting.
tl;dr
Face > Keyboard
Keyboard > None of them
desRow #1 streamer <3
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nice stream, desrow.
really enjoy watching you play and coach
keep it up!
all the best from germany
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Heyhey desrow,
first off i like your stream and good luck for your future!
id like to know what to do in PvP against a protoss player who takes a FE on e.g. Taldarim Altar and protects his entrance with 3-4 cannons? i tried to 4gate when i saw his expo but missed that he had that much cannons. A warpprism would help of course, but i think it was already too late to build one when i saw them.
greets
cathulu
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On October 28 2011 22:40 Cathulu wrote:
Heyhey desrow,
first off i like your stream and good luck for your future!
id like to know what to do in PvP against a protoss player who takes a FE on e.g. Taldarim Altar and protects his entrance with 3-4 cannons? i tried to 4gate when i saw his expo but missed that he had that much cannons. A warpprism would help of course, but i think it was already too late to build one when i saw them.
greets
cathulu
either blink with obs go in the main break havoc take an expand if u do enough damage or warp prism
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Really appreciate guys like this that streams every day for hours, also providing tutorials, replays and helping beginners with getting better. This guy has been giving to the community for a long time.
Many jerks on the internet and i would quit long time ago if i were to get 0.1% of the weird stuff that goes on in the chat.
So just props to you for ignoring it and keep going. Much respect for you !
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Great vlog Desrow, and congrats on GM. You're very good in front of the camera. Very confident.
thanks for all you do!
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On November 03 2011 00:58 arodnom wrote:
Great vlog Desrow, and congrats on GM. You're very good in front of the camera. Very confident.
thanks for all you do!
damn thx <3
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On November 02 2011 23:21 Avean wrote:
Really appreciate guys like this that streams every day for hours, also providing tutorials, replays and helping beginners with getting better. This guy has been giving to the community for a long time.
Many jerks on the internet and i would quit long time ago if i were to get 0.1% of the weird stuff that goes on in the chat.
So just props to you for ignoring it and keep going. Much respect for you !
thanks it means alot <3 :D !
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Hello desRow Is it worth to expand as protoss before 5 minutes ? I am not very good ... I am just in silver league :/ I want improve my strategy Thank you very much for the answer.
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On November 03 2011 02:48 Defensc wrote:Hello desRow Is it worth to expand as protoss before 5 minutes ? I am not very good ... I am just in silver league :/ I want improve my strategy Thank you very much for the answer.
Go with standard build 3gate expand pvz 3gate expand pvt 3gate robo pvp and you will get better
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Question : Dear Desrow ! Recently i noticed new (In my opinion) terran build 3 barracks no gas marine push into expand. They bring 2 barracks to the lower ground and wall off front so no way to scout it. Because they have 3 not 4 barracks they can save extra mineral for exp without cutting marines. This way terran delay his exp just a little bit and puts pressure that can kill 1 gate fe or atleast deny toss fe. Do you think this build will become popular against protoss? I only noticed this in korean builds.
Sry for being an ass in a stream but i got frustrated that you answered question without reading it to the end. You said it low level build but it was used in high level korean TvP. code B I think.
Thanks for your time.
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Really enjoying the stream Desrow!
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Hands down one of the most educational streams for anyone in low masters or below. desRow is doing a really good job interacting on his stream lately and I want to just say huge thumbs up, keep it up cause you're doing it right. Yea sure some of the korean streams might be "higher level" play and more entertaining but I think it is necessary to have people like desRow who actively involve themselves to help other players get better.
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Hey desRow. I've been enjoying your stream for a few months now and was prompted to come in here and post because I realized you got some bad press recently. Don't let people get you down, there are plenty of people who like you and what you do.
I enjoy streams that I can learn from as protoss player. You do a good job of letting the viewers know what's going on in your head and that is why you are one of my favorite streamers.
Thanks again and good luck on your quest back to grand master!
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On November 03 2011 23:41 ExBash wrote:
Question : Dear Desrow ! Recently i noticed new (In my opinion) terran build 3 barracks no gas marine push into expand. They bring 2 barracks to the lower ground and wall off front so no way to scout it. Because they have 3 not 4 barracks they can save extra mineral for exp without cutting marines. This way terran delay his exp just a little bit and puts pressure that can kill 1 gate fe or atleast deny toss fe. Do you think this build will become popular against protoss? I only noticed this in korean builds.
Sry for being an ass in a stream but i got frustrated that you answered question without reading it to the end. You said it low level build but it was used in high level korean TvP. code B I think.
Thanks for your time.
yea I'm sorry you got offended, I still think 1gate fe can survive with adjustment. Maybe that korean protoss never saw the build before and didn't adapt properly to it. You have to keep that in mind ^_ ^
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On November 04 2011 02:29 [uci] Fizik wrote:
Hands down one of the most educational streams for anyone in low masters or below. desRow is doing a really good job interacting on his stream lately and I want to just say huge thumbs up, keep it up cause you're doing it right. Yea sure some of the korean streams might be "higher level" play and more entertaining but I think it is necessary to have people like desRow who actively involve themselves to help other players get better.
<3 ! Even tho 5days out of 7, I don't take questions from the chat in between games I will always do my 10min Q&A session at the end of every stream and u can always questions in this stream thread ^^
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On November 04 2011 04:16 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Hey desRow. I've been enjoying your stream for a few months now and was prompted to come in here and post because I realized you got some bad press recently. Don't let people get you down, there are plenty of people who like you and what you do.
I enjoy streams that I can learn from as protoss player. You do a good job of letting the viewers know what's going on in your head and that is why you are one of my favorite streamers.
Thanks again and good luck on your quest back to grand master!
thanks man it means a lot <3 I got GM back on VTdesRow I will try to get it back on desrow until GM is full, if I fail I still have GM on EU which means a lot more to me ^^ < 3
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Yo des. So you've been going your defensive 4 gate build alot on Tal'darim PvP, but seeing as alot of people are not doing aggressive 4 gate these days, but rather try to tech, i feel like it is a good idea to start doing standard 4 gate again. if you see them 4 gate you can often out-micro them, cus your micro is like really sick.
I feel like it would be a good idea at least at the time.
I tried it this last week, and i have only lost 1 out of 7 pvp's on taldarim.
But then again, your the pro, feel free to just say " nope, nevah" !
<3 <3
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On November 15 2011 02:51 sebsejr wrote:
Yo des. So you've been going your defensive 4 gate build alot on Tal'darim PvP, but seeing as alot of people are not doing aggressive 4 gate these days, but rather try to tech, i feel like it is a good idea to start doing standard 4 gate again. if you see them 4 gate you can often out-micro them, cus your micro is like really sick.
I feel like it would be a good idea at least at the time.
I tried it this last week, and i have only lost 1 out of 7 pvp's on taldarim.
But then again, your the pro, feel free to just say " nope, nevah" !
<3 <3
good point might consider it =P
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People are really mad on the ladder today, desRow utterly destroying them and they rage hard. It's so funny! :D
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I am sorry man, but you are very fat.
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Desrow,
I love watching your stream. I am a mid/high-masters on NA and really trying to get better.
Question about your PvP playstyle. I notice that you take an agressive fast expand against some opponent builds, but not others. Can you please tell me what your thought process is? When do you feel like you can safely take a fast expand?
Right now, I usually go robo tech and wait for obs to scout around 7 min before I decide to expand. However, I lose to someone that fast expanded around 5-6 min. But when I try to fast expand, I usually die to some 1 base timing / all-in...such as z/archon or an immo push. I don't get it!!! Any clues would be very much appreciated.
Thank you!!
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On November 17 2011 04:52 Rigorous wrote:
Desrow,
I love watching your stream. I am a mid/high-masters on NA and really trying to get better.
Question about your PvP playstyle. I notice that you take an agressive fast expand against some opponent builds, but not others. Can you please tell me what your thought process is? When do you feel like you can safely take a fast expand?
Right now, I usually go robo tech and wait for obs to scout around 7 min before I decide to expand. However, I lose to someone that fast expanded around 5-6 min. But when I try to fast expand, I usually die to some 1 base timing / all-in...such as z/archon or an immo push. I don't get it!!! Any clues would be very much appreciated.
Thank you!!
If they go robo I usually like to expand depending on the early game. If I killed more units than I lost I have a EV (google the term) and I try to expand as I think it's the better way to play. I think it would be better for you to die as you try to expand, watch replay and learn than stay on 1 base. At your level playing a lot of games won't make a difference, it needs to be efficient practice. Make sure to analyse your replays carefully and take notes if you have a shitty memory. Best of luck and thank you for respecting my "practice time" (wasn't sure how to write this but thank you for not whining about having to write on a forum or w/e i love to focus on practice =P ).
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Drw - per the stream, please watch the replay again. in the middle of the map, you warped in z's like twice and they got kited to death. However, if you had warped in stalkers, you would have killed his army cuz your army was always bigger in those early engagements in the middle. You just got kited. My point is stalkers would have allowed you to kill that army - no stalkers are not cost efficient, but you could have outmassed him and killed his army and kept him on 1 base, while you warped in some sentry/z after you clean up. I am no expert, but when you have a birds-eye view, you can really see what would have won a game. Also, I learned the stalker thing from Huk. I've seeen him do it many times against marauders and it works in roughly even supply. Stalkers really suck when medi's hit the field, but before then I think stalkers are very viable.
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On November 18 2011 04:32 Rigorous wrote:
Drw - per the stream, please watch the replay again. in the middle of the map, you warped in z's like twice and they got kited to death. However, if you had warped in stalkers, you would have killed his army cuz your army was always bigger in those early engagements in the middle. You just got kited. My point is stalkers would have allowed you to kill that army - no stalkers are not cost efficient, but you could have outmassed him and killed his army and kept him on 1 base, while you warped in some sentry/z after you clean up. I am no expert, but when you have a birds-eye view, you can really see what would have won a game. Also, I learned the stalker thing from Huk. I've seeen him do it many times against marauders and it works in roughly even supply. Stalkers really suck when medi's hit the field, but before then I think stalkers are very viable.
I sent you a PM ^ _ ^
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Hey Desrow, thanks for commentating while you stream. I learn and you are funny and entertaining. Keep it up!
Where can I find your PvZ build order where you attack with zealots and sentries and +1 attack or something like that?
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Desrow I just wanted to stop by and say you run such an excellent stream, you articulate your actions and the reasons behind them so well and thats really helpful to me personally. I think you do alot of things people wish other streamers would do as well like the commentary, always taking questions from your viewers, the camera (I loled so hard when you zoomed out and did the Sup Sons earlier), and your attitude about practice and getting better is inspiring and just great. Basically just thanking you for all you do Desrow Fighting!
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On November 19 2011 03:02 trivium77 wrote:
Hey Desrow, thanks for commentating while you stream. I learn and you are funny and entertaining. Keep it up!
Where can I find your PvZ build order where you attack with zealots and sentries and +1 attack or something like that?
It will be release on my youtube this week end http://youtube.com/desrowfighting
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On November 19 2011 04:58 Air4013 wrote:
Desrow I just wanted to stop by and say you run such an excellent stream, you articulate your actions and the reasons behind them so well and thats really helpful to me personally. I think you do alot of things people wish other streamers would do as well like the commentary, always taking questions from your viewers, the camera (I loled so hard when you zoomed out and did the Sup Sons earlier), and your attitude about practice and getting better is inspiring and just great. Basically just thanking you for all you do Desrow Fighting!
<3!!
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Damn desRow, you forced me to create an teamliquid account just to say that, The internet and E-sports community need more ppl like you. Just watched a couple of videos on your site and i was amazed at the commitment you are showing.
Now i have a stream i have to watch everytime i'm home!
And keep the NO whine attitude!!
MENTAL FIVE DUDE keep doing what you enjoy! and hope to see more of you in the future
/from a flue infested swe watching starcraft 2
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Very dissapointed in you, and I wanted to tell you lost a fan. "You gg'd to early =(" ya that's a really good reason to ban people from your channel, but it's apparent you don't give a damn about the people who support you.
Edit: I made this account only to make that statement
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On November 22 2011 04:45 rxpk wrote:
Very dissapointed in you, and I wanted to tell you lost a fan. "You gg'd to early =(" ya that's a really good reason to ban people from your channel, but it's apparent you don't give a damn about the people who support you.
Edit: I made this account only to make that statement I was banned from his stream as well, guess I won't be watching him anymore. Liquid Hero/EG Incontrol/EG Huk protoss streams hwaiting!
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On November 22 2011 04:45 rxpk wrote:
Very dissapointed in you, and I wanted to tell you lost a fan. "You gg'd to early =(" ya that's a really good reason to ban people from your channel, but it's apparent you don't give a damn about the people who support you.
Edit: I made this account only to make that statement
yea i was on tilt and thats really the only game i got mad about the whole day sorry and i respect your choice have a good day =)
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On November 22 2011 05:51 Kamais_Ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 04:45 rxpk wrote:
Very dissapointed in you, and I wanted to tell you lost a fan. "You gg'd to early =(" ya that's a really good reason to ban people from your channel, but it's apparent you don't give a damn about the people who support you.
Edit: I made this account only to make that statement I was banned from his stream as well, guess I won't be watching him anymore. Liquid Hero/EG Incontrol/EG Huk protoss streams hwaiting!
huk/hero fighting indeed =)
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Hey desrow, just wanted to say that I recently started to watch your stream and i gotta say ur a great dude. You explain a lot of things to ur viewers and what i really respect about u is that u never get really BM even when ur opponents flame u for nothing and that u are very critical about yourself and your own play. Keep it up dude, will tune in more often for sure and it was a pleasure to play you on the EU ladder btw
Oh 1 more thing, is it just me or do u have a pretty high ping when u play on the EU server? i often notice it when u change the waypoint of your nexus. I think thats one of the reasons why u do worse on EU than on NA
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On November 23 2011 06:13 gosuterran wrote:Hey desrow, just wanted to say that I recently started to watch your stream and i gotta say ur a great dude. You explain a lot of things to ur viewers and what i really respect about u is that u never get really BM even when ur opponents flame u for nothing and that u are very critical about yourself and your own play. Keep it up dude, will tune in more often for sure and it was a pleasure to play you on the EU ladder btw Oh 1 more thing, is it just me or do u have a pretty high ping when u play on the EU server? i often notice it when u change the waypoint of your nexus. I think thats one of the reasons why u do worse on EU than on NA
i have p^roblems with my internet gonna call them today
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LOL, desRow raging hard today on his stream after he got destroyed from NMxSigma. Calling him an all-in Terran scrub even though he was on 3 bases and did his push at 20 mins in the game with his mech. Stop making excuses and saying this game is pathetic, that's not how a pro should act.
Also please spend your 1500+ minerals and gas that you consistently stockpile because your macro can't keep up, it would help a lot in all situations you face in your games against people.
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its funny that he calls everybody a noob but can't win against them in macro games.. what a "pro gamer"
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On November 24 2011 02:04 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
LOL, desRow raging hard today on his stream after he got destroyed from NMxSigma. Calling him an all-in Terran scrub even though he was on 3 bases and did his push at 20 mins in the game with his mech. Stop making excuses and saying this game is pathetic, that's not how a pro should act.
Also please spend your 1500+ minerals and gas that you consistently stockpile because your macro can't keep up, it would help a lot in all situations you face in your games against people.
Thanks for the feedback have a nice day!
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On November 24 2011 02:54 zine wrote:
its funny that he calls everybody a noob but can't win against them in macro games.. what a "pro gamer" Pretty much. I'll admit, desRow has pretty good micro and it has saved him from a lot of rushes and clutch plays but I just want to see him focus more on his macro and then he will be a true beast.
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Although I am mostly play terran, I watch your stream the most. Thank you for being so kind to commentate your games and answering questions.
Wish you all the best in your professional career
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On November 24 2011 08:40 LacaHero wrote:
Although I am mostly play terran, I watch your stream the most. Thank you for being so kind to commentate your games and answering questions.
Wish you all the best in your professional career
thx ^^ <3
On November 24 2011 05:42 Kamais_Ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 02:54 zine wrote:
its funny that he calls everybody a noob but can't win against them in macro games.. what a "pro gamer" Pretty much. I'll admit, desRow has pretty good micro and it has saved him from a lot of rushes and clutch plays but I just want to see him focus more on his macro and then he will be a true beast.
macro is my best style of play but since i commentate and try to entertain i fuck it up very often if you dont see me talk alot u can actually see that i have very good macro <3
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Banned me for no reason from chat. And last time I tune in he says someone BM'd him because he typed "=D" and said that was why he lost. Whatever, I'll go watch another stream. Go do good in a tournament and maybe I'll pay attention to you.
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desRow is now answering viewer questions on his ventrillo channel.
server: desrow.maxfrag.net/
port: 1337
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desrow is the funniest guy pretty entertaining stream. Like his playstyle too.
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You said you were going to stream an hour ago did you die?
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hello desrow!
i'm often watching your stream when there's no pro gamer online! keep up the good laddering!
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On December 01 2011 01:44 ExorArgus wrote:
You said you were going to stream an hour ago did you die?
took half a day off =P
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can you unban me? i was caught in some banrage a few weeks ago.
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On December 06 2011 23:28 herrmus wrote:
can you unban me? i was caught in some banrage a few weeks ago.
not leaving ur twitch tv account makes it hard bro
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Great stream, wakeup every day and watch him
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On December 07 2011 10:02 desRow wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 23:28 herrmus wrote:
can you unban me? i was caught in some banrage a few weeks ago. not leaving ur twitch tv account makes it hard bro
same as here, herrmus
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Youre the best des ... never stop!
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desrow great stream .
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Hey DesRow... can i borrow any of the apparently 800 personal trainers and fitness experts you attract to your chat the moment you say you are dieting.
Thanks
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On December 09 2011 10:05 stokes17 wrote:Hey DesRow... can i borrow any of the apparently 800 personal trainers and fitness experts you attract to your chat the moment you say you are dieting. Thanks
hahaha maybe!
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On December 09 2011 11:10 desRow wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 10:05 stokes17 wrote:Hey DesRow... can i borrow any of the apparently 800 personal trainers and fitness experts you attract to your chat the moment you say you are dieting. Thanks hahaha maybe!
Thanks Bro!
Keep up the good work!
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a drunk FXOz is "coaching" desRow while he is playing vs Cytoplasm on stream right now, tune in!
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nice guys , and nice stream with tod
Gl dude
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Well this is interesting. So desrow loses to some terran and the first thing someone says in his chat is "wow". He bans this individual. I ask, "why did you ban him? all he said was wow..." desrow then proceeds to ban me.. This is definitely not worth your time if this is the way desrow acts when he loses. Nothing offensive was even said before he powertripped. GL in Korea regardless.
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I've experienced DesRow Rage first hand when he's losing, but I have to say I think those days are mostly in the past. He does tilt a bit here and there, but who doesn't? In general he's pretty respectful and does a lot of streaming to help the community. Maybe that guy who said "wow..." had said something more offensive in the past.
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Very nice stream ! Added to favorite !
GL HF in Korea !
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Seriously man, you are not so good player and you are very arrogant, egoistic, selfish kid... And this is not flame, Im just expresing my honest opinion.
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On December 29 2011 03:57 h34D_hUnT3R wrote:
Seriously man, you are not so good player and you are very arrogant, egoistic, selfish kid... And this is not flame, Im just expresing my honest opinion.
comes from probably the worst fucking scrub in europe, seriosly . atleast he is trying to become something.. and dont think he is good like you do , sad... u should be reported.
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On December 29 2011 03:57 h34D_hUnT3R wrote:
Seriously man, you are not so good player and you are very arrogant, egoistic, selfish kid... And this is not flame, Im just expresing my honest opinion.
Not a good player ? So what more can he accomplish than beeing GM in EU, US and masters in Korea, have a big sponsor behind him and living at the GOM house in Korea to qualify as a good player in your eyes ? Geeezes dude.
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shit... i was gonna hate on you because i didnt know you.. after i watched ur vlog i kinda like ur personalty.. Respect for going to KR =) gogo desRow!
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Some incredible play today, he has become so extremely fast. His screen was just blinking i couldnt see 40% of what he was doing lol. desrow you have become dangerous! GG
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How am I banned? I rarely ever talk. Anyways was just starting to like you. Now I hate you forever.
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i like watching your stream, its a shame you cant commentate cos it was really helpful to hear your thought process.
But im starting to watch less and less now cos your mod Prime816 is a complete tool.
Gl in korea though, hope you pick some easier opponents for any more show matches you do, hate how much stick you get for losing to these top korean pros
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On January 01 2012 04:49 Avean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2011 03:57 h34D_hUnT3R wrote:
Seriously man, you are not so good player and you are very arrogant, egoistic, selfish kid... And this is not flame, Im just expresing my honest opinion. Not a good player ? So what more can he accomplish than beeing GM in EU, US and masters in Korea, have a big sponsor behind him and living at the GOM house in Korea to qualify as a good player in your eyes ? Geeezes dude.
How about some results?
Not dissing desrow but there's obviously alot more that he can accomplish.
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Someone know this videogame playlist?
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On December 29 2011 03:57 h34D_hUnT3R wrote:
Seriously man, you are not so good player and you are very arrogant, egoistic, selfish kid... And this is not flame, Im just expresing my honest opinion.
Not a good player ? So what more can he accomplish than beeing GM in EU, US and masters in Korea, have a big sponsor behind him and living at the GOM house in Korea to qualify as a good player in your eyes ? Geeezes dude.
How about some results?
Not dissing desrow but there's obviously alot more that he can accomplish.
Ive watched desrow for a while now, b4 his thought wanting to go to korea. I think your results + accomplish more comment doesnt make sense with why he is there right now. maybe what u think he is doing there atm is far different than what desrow is doing there atm. he is in training hard mode (and good job on staying with your gym program bro). This has shown amazing results in his gameplay and he has accomplished a lot by just going to korea. im sure thats a big step in itself.
as far as results in tourneys, etc. we will have to wait till he thinks he's rdy. and ppl can always accomplish more.
Desrow Fighting... much <3
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On February 05 2012 08:34 WOPR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 01 2012 04:49 Avean wrote:
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On December 29 2011 03:57 h34D_hUnT3R wrote:
Seriously man, you are not so good player and you are very arrogant, egoistic, selfish kid... And this is not flame, Im just expresing my honest opinion.
Not a good player ? So what more can he accomplish than beeing GM in EU, US and masters in Korea, have a big sponsor behind him and living at the GOM house in Korea to qualify as a good player in your eyes ? Geeezes dude.
How about some results?
Not dissing desrow but there's obviously alot more that he can accomplish. Ive watched desrow for a while now, b4 his thought wanting to go to korea. I think your results + accomplish more comment doesnt make sense with why he is there right now. maybe what u think he is doing there atm is far different than what desrow is doing there atm. he is in training hard mode (and good job on staying with your gym program bro). This has shown amazing results in his gameplay and he has accomplished a lot by just going to korea. im sure thats a big step in itself. as far as results in tourneys, etc. we will have to wait till he thinks he's rdy. and ppl can always accomplish more. Desrow Fighting... much <3
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watched his stream for a long time now. He was always very entertaining before he went to korea and i hope he gets back to that sometime later. But i wish you best luck for Korea dude! Hope you improve a lot, will watch your stream anyway
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http://sc2ranks.com/tw/791977/desRow
Could someone type story of this in here? I've seen on some chat channels a lot of debate what's going on, KR GM desrow account, most played race being terran. Fair assumption that someone else has played it, but why? Probably been explained in some stream session or smth.
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On February 28 2012 10:31 Ouga wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/tw/791977/desRowCould someone type story of this in here? I've seen on some chat channels a lot of debate what's going on, KR GM desrow account, most played race being terran. Fair assumption that someone else has played it, but why? Probably been explained in some stream session or smth.
Well, he seems to take credit for it anyway, he calls his other korean account which is mid masters or so a smurf.
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When I made my post that account was #126 and like 82-65 stats iirc. Now #176 85-80? Bad streaks hit, but seriously I don't see there could be any reasonable explanation for terran icon other than someone else playing it. Seems pretty bullshit behaviour to act as if it's your own doing if it's not.
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On March 01 2012 14:19 Ouga wrote:
When I made my post that account was #126 and like 82-65 stats iirc. Now #176 85-80? Bad streaks hit, but seriously I don't see there could be any reasonable explanation for terran icon other than someone else playing it. Seems pretty bullshit behaviour to act as if it's your own doing if it's not.
I'll bite the bait.
Desrow probably asked Major to play on his account lol
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On March 01 2012 14:19 Ouga wrote:
When I made my post that account was #126 and like 82-65 stats iirc. Now #176 85-80? Bad streaks hit, but seriously I don't see there could be any reasonable explanation for terran icon other than someone else playing it. Seems pretty bullshit behaviour to act as if it's your own doing if it's not.
he was playing grandmasters the last season and playing grandmasters on his smurf account so his mmr is definitely high enough.
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At about 00:07:30, it is clear that GosiTerran/Major/Windy has been playing desRow's account, http://www.twitch.tv/sixjaxterran/b/309196101. My guess is that Terran at least got the account into GM mmr range if not getting it into GM all together.
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On March 02 2012 10:49 sc2superfan101 wrote:
he was playing grandmasters the last season and playing grandmasters on his smurf account so his mmr is definitely high enough.
You have no idea how system works then. Playing against GMs has nothing to do with yourself getting to GM. #1 GM may get to play against #100 master etc. Hitting GMs on ladder may not mean you're higher than like top600 of your region.
Anyhow that twitch link clearly proves major did it. Makes perfect sense, guess he's the closest terran he knows who could make it to gm :p
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Have you ever thought about diet?
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On March 15 2012 02:19 h34D_hUnT3R wrote:
Have you ever thought about diet?
,If you would of took your time to read some of the post you would see that he is on a diet and has been workinng out. But your a troll/jerk that bashes everyone in your post cause you think you are better then everyone.
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Funny Flash pick. I havent watch your stream for a while and then I comeback and your off line image is a picture with Flash?!! For that you're a boss and Im now going to try and watch your stream more often.
You sir are very lucky!
GL in Korea.
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Good interaction with the viewers, and hes in Korea trying to make it. Like Rocky or something
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Keep doing your vlogs des! :D Keep us updated
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I was never a fan. I really disliked his stream when he was playing in NA.
But you have to be blind or stubborn to refuse the fact that he improved a lot, especially in pvp.
I wish him the best.
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nice run at IPL. too bad u lost to that "girl" ><
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gooogo desrow fighting !!!
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I think his stream now as he is back to Canada is just amazing, i would say he is the number 1 protoss streamer on Teamliquid. He is commentating, interacting and having fun with laddering. Every pro gamer i watch just sits quiet with theyre music and plays. Desrow has no music and commentates what he does, its SOOO valuable to have that available for us, especially with his korean knowledge now.
Highly recommended! 10/10 if youre protoss :D
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subscribed and favorited in TL. Keep it up :D
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4 hours to cook? is that 1 meal?
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Hey! When do you usually run lessons? Do you schedule around your stream sched?
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Desrow, Love your stream! When are you coaching MaximusBlack?
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im a dummy
but since im here, i really like the new scheme you got going with the spell stuff above the cam picture
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On June 18 2012 08:08 sc2superfan101 wrote:
im a dummy
but since im here, i really like the new scheme you got going with the spell stuff above the cam picture
Thanks ^^<3
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On June 18 2012 07:15 Prototype.Zack wrote:
Hey! When do you usually run lessons? Do you schedule around your stream sched?
I stream 7-8am till 4-5pm my hours of coaching are only 4-5-6pm my time so I don't schedule "around" it per say but yea ^^
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On June 18 2012 07:16 Brisk311 wrote:
Desrow, Love your stream! When are you coaching MaximusBlack?
Starting June 26th for a week !
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Hey Desrow,
Just wanted to commend you for trying to shake some weight and improve your quality of health - I was disgusted when sitting in your chat yesterday at the amount of trolls ragging on you. It takes a lot of courage to deal with such a high influx of immature and insensitive people but you manage it like a champ!
Best of luck dude!
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On June 21 2012 00:20 Bulletproof.TV wrote:
Hey Desrow,
Just wanted to commend you for trying to shake some weight and improve your quality of health - I was disgusted when sitting in your chat yesterday at the amount of trolls ragging on you. It takes a lot of courage to deal with such a high influx of immature and insensitive people but you manage it like a champ!
Best of luck dude!
Hes dieting and going to the gym on a daily basis. Seems like u dont follow desRow
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@ Fire - this is specifically what the post is.. a compliment lol - perhaps you should read more carefully.
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On June 21 2012 01:03 Firefoxys wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 00:20 Bulletproof.TV wrote:
Hey Desrow,
Just wanted to commend you for trying to shake some weight and improve your quality of health - I was disgusted when sitting in your chat yesterday at the amount of trolls ragging on you. It takes a lot of courage to deal with such a high influx of immature and insensitive people but you manage it like a champ!
Best of luck dude! Hes dieting and going to the gym on a daily basis. Seems like u dont follow desRow
Did you even read anything he just said? Seems like u dont follow posts you respond to.
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On June 21 2012 00:20 Bulletproof.TV wrote:
Hey Desrow,
Just wanted to commend you for trying to shake some weight and improve your quality of health - I was disgusted when sitting in your chat yesterday at the amount of trolls ragging on you. It takes a lot of courage to deal with such a high influx of immature and insensitive people but you manage it like a champ!
Best of luck dude!
Thanks dood
I'd like to apologize on behalf of firefoxys, he's a trust worthy mod I guess he wasn't paying attention he had good intentions im sure ^^ <3
but yea trolls will trolls it's okay I'm doing my thing ^^
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well keep doing what your doing dude, haha no worries!
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Awesome stream, if you haven't tuned in already just do so :p
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your guides have inspired me to race-switch to protoss. pretty soon im gonna be metagaming noobs all day with your advice. <3
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Who won desrow vs vortix?
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I missed the beginning but it was most prolly a clean sweep for vortix (5-0).
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On June 22 2012 07:40 Bunn wrote:
Who won desrow vs vortix?
5-0 for vortix
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<3 desrow hope for the best mannerpanda
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hey desrow thanks for the nice stream and the guides on youtube, they really help and give me some more options for builds
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been loving this stream lately, lot of information and interaction with the chat. plus your attitude is stellar win or lose. gotta love the improvement i've been seeing too.
keep it up!
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Super nice stream
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Im an idiot but he was streaming his TSL qualifier and at the beginning he played some motivational video... anybody remeber what that was? btw awesome stream
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Desrow you're fat
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On July 17 2012 04:39 lbw199455 wrote:
Desrow you're fat
And?
That was supposed to be funny or rude? Either way you are fucking idiot.
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he seems to have lost some weight. keep it up.
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Strategy Question:
I forgot when it was (maybe a GSL match) where I saw Naniwa and MC doing this delayed 4 gate after expansion and putting on a lot of pressure. The build is a 13 gate with normal gas and core timings, but instead of saving for 3 gates after your stalker, you put down a nexus and THEN 3 more gates and a second stalker, and attack as if it was a 4 gate. After the first warp in you continue probe production fron the 2 nexus.
The first warp in comes around 6:15-6:25 (depending on what you chrono more: units or probes or core).
I'm just a scrub, but I've been using it vs terran and protoss. Vs terran I warp in 2 sentry and 2 zealot, send my 7 units to bust his ramp (terran doing a 1 rax expand) and if he doesnt have a ton of units, or a second bunker, I usually just win the game. Vs protoss it is enough to put pressure vs someone that isnt 4 gating, and it is enough to defend a 4 gate, and you get an earlier expansion.
What do you think of this build? Was MC just trying to play mind games? Or is this a good pressure strat for higher levels?
Thanks.
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Desrow's Side
Maximus offered me to go over to his house for 7 days and coach him. It was a great opportunity/event to promote myself and promote himself. He offered me 500$ and paid airfare and food which was 500$. On top of that, he gave me a 70$ microphone as a gift.
Maximus made around 850$ off ad revenue and 4000$ off donations minus 1070 for aifare/salary/microphone.
Once I got back, I talked with a few really close friends who work in e-sports for notable organisations and asked them their opinion of the whole affair. Most of them were shocked/surprised that he wasn't giving me more than that.
I asked Maximus a week later if he thought I deserved more than what he gave me. He started flipping out and being agressive and calling me out for things that never seemed to be an issue while I was over there. Most of the jokes I made were to entertain sort of like 2GD. He kept claiming that he lost potential revenue from his youtube channel when he already had pre-recorded content for every channel.
After he flipped out, I realize this wasn't going anywhere. Until I heard that CSN wanted to hire him. Being a acquaintance of John Clark, I thought it was only fair to inform him of how Maximus was behind the scene. After CSN telling Maximus what I told them, he realize that this whole story could get out and that his persona would be compromised. He then agreed to pay an extra 300$ out of spite.
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desRow! I just read you got into MoW!!!! Holy crap man congrats! I always watch your stream and was hoping you would bounce back for MLG this weekend after watching you head off stream early a fews days ago because you thought you wouldn't get in.
You have to be on a new high man, ride it through MLG and kick some ass!
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Gotta say man, haven't watched your stream for months, saw it on today and popped in quick.
You're looking amazing man! When I went to check your steam info and saw you're hitting the gym and watching your diet I had to pop in a comment that it shows.
Keep up the hard work in everything you do, I'll make it a point to get back to watching more often!
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Good toss.
He's on my team's A team
he was also on my other team (Team Legion.)
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"i am fat but....."
haha, its funny that you think about it taht way, instead of ignoring it..
good luck man!
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Holy cow what am I watching xD
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Wtf brabhrabhrhbrah why didn't you think this through more
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congrats on getting to GM today!
lovin the stream so far. GL in the future!
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Hello Marc,
I am writing to enter the raffle for the HOTS key.
My story is simple. I have 4847 games in SC2 (WOL) 487 games this season alone. I cannot afford to buy HOTS. All of my friends have HOTS but I have to play WOL as I cannot pay for the game. I am divorced with 2 little boys and have to pay rent and food first. I visit a foodbank regularly. I live in a small room in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, that I rent and play SC about 6 hours a day (sometimes more). I love the game and try to encourage others to play and learn. I love to play 4v4 and frequently coach others for free. I do not stream (don`t know how). But I would love to stream and make a part time living entertaining others on stream and winning some games.
So if possible, I would love to have a key and use it daily. It would allow me to connect with others and stay current with strategy and games; above all I could help others and we all could bond with gaming in common.
Regardless, of your choice for HOTS raffle winner, I just wanted to say thank you very much for entertaining me and my sons and sharing your stories about your successes (weight loss goals) and failures (tourney losses). It keeps us real in a world of constant challenge. All the best and God Bless you.
Jeff
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On April 18 2013 03:56 STEPaside wrote:
Hello Marc,
I am writing to enter the raffle for the HOTS key.
My story is simple. I have 4847 games in SC2 (WOL) 487 games this season alone. I cannot afford to buy HOTS. All of my friends have HOTS but I have to play WOL as I cannot pay for the game. I am divorced with 2 little boys and have to pay rent and food first. I visit a foodbank regularly. I live in a small room in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, that I rent and play SC about 6 hours a day (sometimes more). I love the game and try to encourage others to play and learn. I love to play 4v4 and frequently coach others for free. I do not stream (don`t know how). But I would love to stream and make a part time living entertaining others on stream and winning some games.
So if possible, I would love to have a key and use it daily. It would allow me to connect with others and stay current with strategy and games; above all I could help others and we all could bond with gaming in common.
Regardless, of your choice for HOTS raffle winner, I just wanted to say thank you very much for entertaining me and my sons and sharing your stories about your successes (weight loss goals) and failures (tourney losses). It keeps us real in a world of constant challenge. All the best and God Bless you.
Jeff
I think you have to post this on the youtube/twitter for the raffle thing... could be wrong though. Either way, good luck.
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I'm definitely going to watch his stream today :D
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