EPTA bit of an enigma the english team, always sick on paper but just... performs like crap in the actual championship, why is this?
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
A bit of an enigma the english team, always sick on paper but just... performs like crap in the actual championship, why is this? | ||
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
On May 09 2012 02:21 unkkz wrote: Any englishman that care to update me on how the media situation is in England regarding their team? it depends on the media tbqh. the sensible media realise we're crap, the more idiotic media are too busy hoping to god that aging scumbags* will pull us through the group and then hype us to the roof until we lose in the quarter final on penalties. while praying that players' birds will be about wearing not much * see terry, john. also gerrard, steven | ||
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2349 Posts
On May 09 2012 02:21 unkkz wrote: Any englishman that care to update me on how the media situation is in England regarding their team? I find it hilarious that every year for the passt 10 years or so the English press goes "THIS YEAR WE WILL WIN IT ALL! SICKEST TEAM EVER!" and England bombs massively and plays like a draw and two losses. I still cry out loud from a laughing when I recall that. Shame that my own team sucks most of time as much as that goal XD | ||
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SnowyPsilocybin
United Kingdom265 Posts
[QUOTE]On May 09 2012 02:21 unkkz wrote: * see terry, john. also gerrard, steven[/QUOTE] I think Ashley Cole can be added to that list. Wayne Rooney too. | ||
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
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don_kyuhote
3007 Posts
On May 09 2012 02:39 hitthat wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMb0S8EQxTE I still cry out loud from a laughing when I recall that. Shame that my own team sucks most of time as much as that goal XD lol looking closely, I think the ball somehow bounced up right before Robinson tried to kick it. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2349 Posts
On May 09 2012 02:44 don_kyuhote wrote: lol looking closely, I think the ball somehow bounced up right before Robinson tried to kick it. Yes, it did. It still belongs to "self own" category though :D | ||
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Miyoshino
314 Posts
On May 09 2012 02:00 nkr wrote: The thing with some of the worlds best defenders is that they don't actually need the speed. They have perfect game sense and positioning to make up for that. Terry plays fine with a lot of space behind him in what might be the quickest league in the world. Actually, what some do is keep the field long when they should be shortening the playfield. That way there is little space behind them for the enemy to exploit anyway. But in doing so, they make it really hard for their midfield. Problem is that at many top clubs there is little tactical knowledge. This is especially true in the premier league and in the I italian league. One not so fast center defender is fine if the other can solve the problem. It is not so much not being fast is a problem but someone said that the Dutch center defenders are slower than Terry and Lucio. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On May 09 2012 02:44 don_kyuhote wrote: lol looking closely, I think the ball somehow bounced up right before Robinson tried to kick it. Yeh, it's fucking hilarious to watch. XD It's as though the ball has a mind of it's own and is absolutely hell-bent on destroying Englands dreams. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On May 09 2012 02:39 hitthat wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMb0S8EQxTE I still cry out loud from a laughing when I recall that. Shame that my own team sucks most of time as much as that goal XD That's not fault of the goalkeeper. The ball bounced over his foot because of the poor conditions of the field. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 09 2012 02:21 unkkz wrote: A bit of an enigma the english team, always sick on paper but just... performs like crap in the actual championship, why is this? Almost everyone I talk to in England thinks that our team is a piece of crap that will not get past the first knockout stage. I think we will make quarters but by the world cup we should have a better team if people like sturridge oxlade chamberlain and wilshere come into their own, + we have some good/pacey players like rooney, young/ johnson, walcott/ lennon, bent, cole/ baines, richards/johnson/walker, a good keeper...we could make semis. Unfortunately our centre is looking a little bare once lampard/gerrard and parker are too old although hopefully wilshere and maybe oxlade chamberlain (if he develops into that position) can step it up. Plus lampard and gerrard don't play well together. We have defenders like Cahill, Terry, Ferdinand, Smalling, Jones to choose from. Not the worst pool. Although all of that having been said, you touched on the most important thing. Our players are all dog shit when they put on the england shirt. It's like they forget they are good. We have consistently had one of the top 6 most impressive teams on paper going into every world cup for as long as I can remember. And we have consistently been incredibly disappointing. Oh well...three lions on the shirt and everything...hopefully this year football will come home. | ||
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Porkz
Denmark1027 Posts
....Also, never count Denmark out, just remember what they did in EURO 1992.... Yeah....no :D | ||
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SACtheXchng
168 Posts
Haha, by that account we should also no count out Greece. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Ibra´s 8 year streak of winning the national league got broken, he needs that gold at the end of year. If not, I hope they play on a terrible pitch and some east-european team wins with some strange form of anti-football. I'm okay with anyone winning though. | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On May 09 2012 00:03 Miyoshino wrote: Puyol and Terry can't play with space behind them and they are slow. Lucio and Mertesacker have limited football skills. Pepe is crazy and you never know when he will get a red card. The Netherlands certainly hasn't got the best defenders. But it is mostly lack of depth. None of them have the pass Heitinga has. He can cross as well as F. de Boer. Lol Puyol only plays with space behind him with Barca and he can keep up with Robben (remember last WC). Terry okay he can't really play with space behind him but he makes up for it in other areas. Yes Netherlands doesn't have the best defenders and certainly not the worst. I was merely trying to make a point that if Netherlands were going to be taken out it's far more likely going to be some major defensive mistake rather than our offense failing because let's be honest. If you look at the other top countries their lineups are overall good in each area whereas Holland's is offensive world class but with an average defense lineup. I just don't like Mathijssen since he doesn't bring anything to the team in his current shape. Heitinga's cross pass is a good tool and at least brings something to the team. On May 09 2012 02:51 Miyoshino wrote: Actually, what some do is keep the field long when they should be shortening the playfield. That way there is little space behind them for the enemy to exploit anyway. But in doing so, they make it really hard for their midfield. Problem is that at many top clubs there is little tactical knowledge. This is especially true in the premier league and in the I italian league. One not so fast center defender is fine if the other can solve the problem. It is not so much not being fast is a problem but someone said that the Dutch center defenders are slower than Terry and Lucio. Not understanding it quite well in English but most defenders are forced to keep the field long because of wingers they're facing against. You can't shorten the playing field because then they'll just attack from the flanks and with someone fast you're giving them free space and opportunity to give a pass and a chance to shoot if possible as well. Playing with a short playfield is fine if the opponents can't play in tight spaces but like I said above it's a double edged sword playing like this. | ||
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Stolat
Poland241 Posts
On May 08 2012 19:38 popzags wrote: Robert Lewandowski, 24 years old, Borussia Dortmund Skilled sniper - probably the greatest star of Polish football ATM. Lewandowski was recently elected Player of the Season in Bundesliga, he scored no less than 22 league goals in 2011/2012 season. Quite amazing player, deserves to play in a stronger league IMO. Aside from him, Polish forwards are rather horrible, no reason to mention them. . stronger league? have you watched any game in Bundesliga this season? Definitely at least in top 3 of European Leagues (proved by Champions League for example) and to addition to that, I think he is not ready for another change yet. Giants from Spanish and English leagues like Real / Chelsea / MU will not buy him this year, and i can`t see any other worthy team owning our sniper. | ||
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Nisyax
Netherlands756 Posts
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Miyoshino
314 Posts
It will be much harder for the opponent to make plays and get near the goal if the defenders just concede all lot of space and drop back to near their own 16. They need to push up in position to reduce the danger of what happens in a turnover. You need to keep the lines complact for both offensive and defensive reasons. You will play way stronger tactically and on the midfield if you can keep the lines compact. If not your midfield will be swimming. They can't cover the distance and there will be too many space between defending midfielder and the defensive line. | ||
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Vernom
Spain374 Posts
What? Says the french one. Flames aside, not having Carles Pujol is going to hurt our defense but lets see. Villa is recovering from a long injury and Torres is sucking as always, we have young scorers but they are inexperienced. We will have problems to score goals, remember how many goals we scored in the last tournament... | ||
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