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Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
May 14 2012 03:21 GMT
#161
Yeah not seeing England doing too much. Seriously hoped that the appointment of Hodgson would temper expectations, since the biggest threat to any English team of the past two decades has been the English media, inflating expectations to stupid levels then tearing apart the team for not performing as well as Brazil or Spain. Glad I don't live in England anymore to put up with that crap.

I'm actually hoping Roy has the balls to do what should be done; namely, get rid of the Old Guard. Terry, Ferdinand, Lampard etc - leave them behind. England do not have a serious chance in this tournament, so why not have the younger players get some experience in a major tournament? Wish Wilshere was fit, but I would have Parker as the captain and only player over thirty, and give the youngsters a chance. Look at Germany in the World Cup, plenty of youth that will benefit from that experience in the Euros.
You live the life you choose.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 14 2012 09:26 GMT
#162
Countdown to wednesday for England fans then. Mr Roy will announce his squad then, and im sure the press leading up till then will be continuing the squad story about he can only take either JT or Rio which is this is utter lunacy. Not only can they both be taken if needed, there shouldn't even be a descion to make as this season Rio has been so slow and poor it doesn't matter, JT has been the better defender. So silly!
Oh well i have faith in Roy he is a good manager. solid experience too.
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tekos44
Profile Joined June 2011
France280 Posts
May 14 2012 09:46 GMT
#163
A first list of players for France has been given last week by Laurent Blanc, limited to foreign-based players:

Defenders : Philippe Mexès (AC Milan), Adil Rami (Valence), Laurent Koscielny (Arsenal), Younes Kaboul (Tottenham), Patrice Evra (Manchester United), Gaël Clichy (Manchester City)

Midfielders : Yohan Cabaye (Newcastle), Florent Malouda (Chelsea), Samir Nasri (Manchester City)

Forwards : Franck Ribéry (Bayern Munich), Karim Benzema (Real Madrid), Hatem Ben Arfa (Newcastle)

Abidal and Sagna would have been there if not on recovery/injured, and it seems Malouda and Kaboul suffered an injury on sunday, we'll see how it goes.
The full list with Ligue1 players will be announced next week, but i can already tell we will have no international level defensive midfielders (Toulalan and Diarra from Madrid have never been called by Blanc and are already out of this list, so we'll end up with Mvila and Diarra from Marseille, really not on the required level)
It will still be enough to beat England, but i dont see us going very far
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
May 14 2012 09:52 GMT
#164
really hope david villa manages to make it to the euro
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
May 14 2012 11:03 GMT
#165
Everyone is underestimating the french. They are playing killer lately, so don't count them out. And I think with how i saw spain play they are the favourites together with Germany. Netherlands and france subfavourites. Italy is probably going to fail because of their static play, makes it hard to recuperate from a loss.

<-- pretty nice football and recent. Of course a friendly .
Are you human?
alex_Kyiv
Profile Joined May 2012
Ukraine5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 19:33:59
May 15 2012 11:58 GMT
#166
Hello guys.

My name is Oleksandr(Alex), Im from Kyiv, Ukraine.

If you want come to Kyiv to UEFA 2012, I can help you with accompaniment.

I have car, so I can meet you at aeroport, show the city, help with questions and follow you all your time in Kyiv. I can't help with residence. I can take no more than 4 mans.

About me. Im 29 y.o. My English not very good, but a simple things Im will understand and can say something

My skype is : kpoisons

GL
La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 14:55:51
May 15 2012 14:55 GMT
#167
On May 15 2012 20:58 alex_Kyiv wrote:
Hello guys.

My name is Oleksandr(Alex), Im from Kyiv, Ukraine.

If you want come to Kyiv to UEFA 2012, I can help you with accompaniment.

I have car, so I can meet you at aeroport, show the city, help with questions and follow you all your time in Kyiv. I can't help with residence. I can take no more than 4 mans.

About me. Im 29 y.o. My English not very good, but I simple things Im will understand and can say something

My skype is : kpoisons

GL


Holy crap thats nice of you

-

Thoughts on this event -

It looks like spain should walk it, it would be interesting to see how many teams adopt a chelsea play style to counter the way "spain" as a team play

as an englishman i hate to say we don't have a chance, we will be lucky to get out the group, the english fa / managment / team is a shambles.
pff
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18476 Posts
May 15 2012 14:59 GMT
#168
On May 14 2012 12:21 Sanctimonius wrote:
Yeah not seeing England doing too much. Seriously hoped that the appointment of Hodgson would temper expectations, since the biggest threat to any English team of the past two decades has been the English media, inflating expectations to stupid levels then tearing apart the team for not performing as well as Brazil or Spain. Glad I don't live in England anymore to put up with that crap.

I'm actually hoping Roy has the balls to do what should be done; namely, get rid of the Old Guard. Terry, Ferdinand, Lampard etc - leave them behind. England do not have a serious chance in this tournament, so why not have the younger players get some experience in a major tournament? Wish Wilshere was fit, but I would have Parker as the captain and only player over thirty, and give the youngsters a chance. Look at Germany in the World Cup, plenty of youth that will benefit from that experience in the Euros.


While yes Loew supports young players a lot, the last WC is a bad example of that since most of his older players got injured pre-WC.
Timurid
Profile Joined April 2011
Guyana (French)656 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 18:07:19
May 15 2012 17:03 GMT
#169
No Sakho and Gamiero, but Yanga Mbwia gets his first call up and Gourcuff is back in the lineup. I think Sakho will be put back in the lineup soon.
Here's the lineup.
http://www.fff.fr/individus/selections/der_selection.php?id_selection=1
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
May 15 2012 17:06 GMT
#170
On May 15 2012 23:59 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 12:21 Sanctimonius wrote:
Yeah not seeing England doing too much. Seriously hoped that the appointment of Hodgson would temper expectations, since the biggest threat to any English team of the past two decades has been the English media, inflating expectations to stupid levels then tearing apart the team for not performing as well as Brazil or Spain. Glad I don't live in England anymore to put up with that crap.

I'm actually hoping Roy has the balls to do what should be done; namely, get rid of the Old Guard. Terry, Ferdinand, Lampard etc - leave them behind. England do not have a serious chance in this tournament, so why not have the younger players get some experience in a major tournament? Wish Wilshere was fit, but I would have Parker as the captain and only player over thirty, and give the youngsters a chance. Look at Germany in the World Cup, plenty of youth that will benefit from that experience in the Euros.


While yes Loew supports young players a lot, the last WC is a bad example of that since most of his older players got injured pre-WC.


Aye, but it doesn't matter how it happened, Germany had a great tournament with their youth. I'm hoping England can take a leaf out of that book, but I'll bet Lampard and Gerrard will play together, Terry will be at the back and Ferdinand will go along despite having a poor season.
You live the life you choose.
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
May 15 2012 19:17 GMT
#171
The Swedish squad has been announced:
Goalkeepers:
23 Pär Hansson, Helsingborg, 2 National team appearences /0 goals.
1 Andreas Isaksson, PSV Eindhoven, 91/0.
12 Johan Wiland, FC Köpenhamn, 7/0.
Defender:
15 Mikael Antonsson, Bologna, 4/0.
4 Andreas Granqvist, Genoa, 16/2.
2 Mikael Lustig, Celtic, 23/1.
3 Olof Mellberg, Olympiakos, 112/7.
13 Jonas Olsson, West Bromwich, 6/0.
5 Martin Olsson, Blackburn, 8/4.
17 Behrang Safari, Anderlecht, 23/0.
Midfielders:
19 Emir Bajrami, Twente, 15/2.
6 Rasmus Elm, AZ Alkmaar, 22/1.
18 Samuel Holmén, Istanbul BB, 25/2.
9 Kim Källström, Lyon, 90/16.
7 Sebastian Larsson, Sunderland, 39/5.
8 Anders Svensson, Elfsborg, 126/18.
16 Pontus Wernbloom, CSKA Moskva, 21/2.
21 Christian Wilhelmsson, al-Hilal, 72/8.
Strikers:
11 Johan Elmander, Galatasaray, 63/16.
22 Markus Rosenberg, Werder Bremen, 30/6.
14 Tobias Hysén, IFK Göteborg, 21/7.
10 Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Milan, 75/29.
20 Ola Toivonen, PSV Eindhoven, 22/4.
Selassie
Profile Joined April 2012
Ireland58 Posts
May 15 2012 19:21 GMT
#172
We'll get 4 points from Italy/Croatia and draw/lose to Spain to go through to the quarters.
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 20:16:39
May 15 2012 19:49 GMT
#173
"Aside from Ireland vs Croatia, all other games a good to watch." LOL

I love Italian football but Ireland has great team that can run for 120 minutes easy. They are also robust, UK style at it's finest. What about Giovanni Trapattoni their coach? Young Shane Long is great FW and Robbie Keane is old pain in the ass for every team even Spain. He dosen't play this game since yesterday! They have long tradition of playing football, they are nation of football and they will give their fullest. Do you think Spain and Italy stars want it so badly? They have loads of trophy and pretty big salaries. Of course they want it, but I think "lesser" teams want it so much more!

I predict:

Croatia > Italy
Croatia vs Ireland (can't predict, Irish were always very good vs our play even if we have names on paper that are better)
Croatia < Spain

Ireland vs Italy - X
Ireland vs Croatia (same)
Ireland < Spain

Spain - Italy - X (I don't like how Italy defends vs really good technique players and Italy has lots of them (Croatia loves this, but we hate faster play remember Ecuador?)
Spain > Croatia
Spain > Ireland

Italy < Croatia
Italy vs Spain (same)
Italy vs Ireland - X

Also keep in mind that when it comes to Croatia, if we start good - then we are very dangerous, we love to play "on the wings of victory" so if someone wants to crush Croatia it will be the first game. For our nation football is sport that you live and die for so our players are aware of that, it can be positive or negative pressure. If we win then they have full backup of masses and that gives them big boost. I can't stress enough how much support means for our players, it became fanatical thing, just look at this shit:




P.S. - Putting Ukraine aside is really sad from you. Ukraine has powerful team and are host. After Shevchenko era they really play different football that can be so unorthodox that every team can fail vs them. Also they are WWDWW in last 5 friendly matches.

btw: nice one
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3982 Posts
May 15 2012 23:51 GMT
#174
Hmmm that goal was lucky x3:
- bounces off the defender's legs
- cross wasn't good but gets headed back in
- i think he meant to control the ball and hit it hard, instead it chips and flukes in.
Do they plan to score like this again?
I don't think matches vs Ireland or Ukraine are a walkover but you can't say they'll be favorites in a match either...but no match is a more than 75% win for any team.
SwedishHero
Profile Joined April 2005
Sweden869 Posts
May 16 2012 00:10 GMT
#175
On May 14 2012 12:03 Holgerius wrote:
Goalkeepers: Buffon (Juventus), De Sanctis (Napoli), Sirigu (Paris St. Germain), Viviano (Palermo).
Defenders: D Abate (Milan), Astori (Cagliari), Balzaretti (Palermo), Barzagli (Juventus) Bocchetti (Rubin Kazan), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Criscito (Zenit St Petersburg), Maggio (Napoli), Ogbonna (Torino), Ranocchia (Inter);
Midfielders: Cigarini (Atalanta), De Rossi (Roma), Diamanti (Bologna), Giaccherini (Juventus), Marchisio (Juventus), Montolivo (Fiorentina), Thiago Motta (Paris St. Germain), Nocerino (Milan), Pirlo (Juventus),Schelotto (Atalanta), Verratti (Pescara);
Strikers: Balotelli (Manchester City), Borini (Roma), Cassano (Milan), Destro (Siena), Di Natale (Udinese), Giovinco (Parma)

As much as I want to be optimistic, this is one of the worst italian squads I've seen. =/


Are you joking? I think Italy has a great team :=) They got 7 Juve players. The worlds greatest club !
Forza Juve
Italiano??...no...no italiano?
SwedishHero
Profile Joined April 2005
Sweden869 Posts
May 16 2012 00:13 GMT
#176
Reiko, idemo skroz do finala ..

Italiano??...no...no italiano?
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
May 16 2012 00:14 GMT
#177
On May 14 2012 20:03 norlock wrote:
Everyone is underestimating the french. They are playing killer lately, so don't count them out. And I think with how i saw spain play they are the favourites together with Germany. Netherlands and france subfavourites. Italy is probably going to fail because of their static play, makes it hard to recuperate from a loss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lih-r8jGwWo <-- pretty nice football and recent. Of course a friendly .

It happens sometimes



Normally in friendlies you're cycling through almost all your players.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 01:07:39
May 16 2012 01:00 GMT
#178
On May 16 2012 04:17 Intact wrote:
The Swedish squad has been announced:+ Show Spoiler +

Goalkeepers:
23 Pär Hansson, Helsingborg, 2 National team appearences /0 goals.
1 Andreas Isaksson, PSV Eindhoven, 91/0.
12 Johan Wiland, FC Köpenhamn, 7/0.
Defender:
15 Mikael Antonsson, Bologna, 4/0.
4 Andreas Granqvist, Genoa, 16/2.
2 Mikael Lustig, Celtic, 23/1.
3 Olof Mellberg, Olympiakos, 112/7.
13 Jonas Olsson, West Bromwich, 6/0.
5 Martin Olsson, Blackburn, 8/4.
17 Behrang Safari, Anderlecht, 23/0.
Midfielders:
19 Emir Bajrami, Twente, 15/2.
6 Rasmus Elm, AZ Alkmaar, 22/1.
18 Samuel Holmén, Istanbul BB, 25/2.
9 Kim Källström, Lyon, 90/16.
7 Sebastian Larsson, Sunderland, 39/5.
8 Anders Svensson, Elfsborg, 126/18.
16 Pontus Wernbloom, CSKA Moskva, 21/2.
21 Christian Wilhelmsson, al-Hilal, 72/8.
Strikers:
11 Johan Elmander, Galatasaray, 63/16.
22 Markus Rosenberg, Werder Bremen, 30/6.
14 Tobias Hysén, IFK Göteborg, 21/7.
10 Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Milan, 75/29.
20 Ola Toivonen, PSV Eindhoven, 22/4.

Will be interesting to see how we do. Very disappointed to see Rosenberg instead of Guidetti. Sure Guidetti is currently injured, but I thought he'd come back in time, something that is not guaranteed for Elmander. I'd rather have Guidetti as a wild card rather than an unmotivated Rosenberg. Also, we have no real good right back, which is unfortunate. Maybe Larsson will be moved down. Adding to that, Isaksson has been injured (unless I'm mistaken) and is very inconsistent. I still think we have a good chance of getting out of the group. We have a good midfield and Ibra has had a good season in Milan, so I'm hopeful. France's squad is looking pretty bad defensively and we have a good record against England (who lately choke hard at big competitions and will have to do without Rooney the first two games). Ukraine should be easy 3 points for everyone.

Also, I love the fact that a Serie B dude is in Italy's team. I bet his stock is gonna rocket up.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Timurid
Profile Joined April 2011
Guyana (French)656 Posts
May 16 2012 01:27 GMT
#179
Verratti is being touted as the next Pirlo and he is bound to Juve this summer.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
May 16 2012 01:53 GMT
#180
Verratti was always a stunner in Football Manager - it looks like life is emulating videogames here haha. That being said, the Italy team looks largely untested on an international level.
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