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The 2012 UEFA EURO

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Caphe
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Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 04:01:13
May 02 2012 09:03 GMT
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The 2012 UEFA EURO

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It is this time again, once every four year, the second largest football competition after the Worldcup will be co-hosted by Poland and Ukraine.
Let's us get ready for this awesome footbal tournament that has always been and will be one of the best competition in sports this year.

The History
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The inaugural tournament was entered by around half of UEFA's member associations, 17 in total, and one more than the minimum required. The Republic of Ireland were eliminated by Czechoslovakia in a qualifying play-off (the two teams met after the drawing of lots). The first championship match proper was held on 28 September 1958 in Moscow's Central Stadium – the USSR beating Hungary 3-1, with the home side's Anatoli Ilyin scoring the first goal after four minutes – and the inaugural competition took place over 22 months between 1958 and 1960. From small acorns do great oaks rise.
The first winner was former USSR


2012 EURO

Hosted in 8 cities all over Poland and Ukraine from June 8th to July 1st. The opening game will be the host Poland vs Greece in group A at National Stadium - Warsaw - Poland. The final will be held on July 1st at Olympic Stadium - Kiev - Ukraine.

The 2012 UEFA EURO consists of 16 teams divided into 4 groups. These teams have come through from a two years qualifier of almost all EU nations.After the group stage, number 1 and number 2 of each group will advance to the quarter-final.

Groups and Teams

Group A
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Poland
Greece
Russia
Czech Republic


Group B
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Netherlands
Denmark
Germany
Portugal


Group C
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Spain
Italy
Republic of Ireland
Croatia


Group D
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Ukraine
Sweden
France
England


Team Promo
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ESPN's promo posters for each country:

Germany
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Ukraine
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Denmark
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Poland
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Spain
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Ireland
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Czech Republic
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England
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Italy
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Greece
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Russia
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France
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Portugal
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Croatia
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Netherlands
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Detailed Teams Information
This section will get updated regularly until the actual event started. This is where you find information about a certain team its players and related things. I hope you guys can contribute to this section by posting your national team squad, comments and related activity.

In the first update, we have Greece presented by Steveling

Greece(by Steveling)
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Greece


Keepers


This time round we aren't in the possession of a world class keeper like Nikopolidis was.
•Tzorvas -29 years old- of Palermo though is solid. He won't save us from defeat alone, but he can help along.

Defense


So, Greece's main strengh is once again its defense. This generation is blessed with some extremely talented backs and stoppers.

• V.Torosidis -26 years old- (right/left back-def/mid) of Olympiakos.
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. His name has being linked quite a few times with big clubs and I'm very surprised and happy he's still in Greece. A high caliber back.
• A.Papadopoulos -27 years old- (stopper) of Olympiakos.
Strong, tall, fast( not agile though). He's the natural successor of Dellas from the team of 2004. He's someone you can depend on with the task of marking a high profile player and pull through it.
• S.Papastathopoulos -23 years old- (stopper) of Werder Bremen. Athletic, smart, knows how to play the ball down his field as well.
He's the one who had the biggest breakthrough so far in his career, with a jump to Milan 2 years ago, in which he didn't manage to take a starters jersey and thus he left. He's the most technically gifted full stopper I've seen coming from Greece and his marking is also remarcable(nice pun lol). He will most probably be bought by Juventus this summer.
•K.Papadopoulos -20 years old- (stopper, def/mid) of Shalke. He's like Hulk. Just look at his body, and he has being like that since I first show him on Olympiakos, while he was only 14 years old. The young prodigy is like a natural disaster set upon the unfortunate attackers of the enemy team. His short passing is solid, and he's capable of 70 meters long crosses with accuracy. This one will be a world class player in a couple of years, many expectations from him this summer.

Midfield


This is by far our weakest line unfortunately. We still have Karagounis and Katsouranis from the old squad, but they are kinda bad now, too old. These are their last appearances though so I hope they will put their heart into it.
The only really notable player is :
•G.Fetfatzidis -21 years old- (att mid, winger) of Olympiakos. Greece hasn't be lucky with such a promising talent for the last 15 years. He's short, fast, dribbles with ease, and he's a lefty. He got a Messi vibe in him, albeit without the goalscoring ability.(
I hope he won't be afraid to ask the ball from his seasoned teammates and step up to a leading position.
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Offense


Our offense is better than the 2004 squad. Aside from the 2 competent veterans Lyberopoulos and Salpiggidis, the 2 starters are :
•G.Samaras - 27 years old- ( att mid, forward) of Celtic. Although he can score given the chance, he's most important cause he can hold the ball and make the game. He has excellent technique for his height and he's the man who creates chances for the centre forward.
•T.Gekas -31 years old- (centre forward) of Samsunspor. He is beyond his best years in Bundesliga where he had many good seasons with solid 20's, but he remains a prolific scorer. We won't make many chances for goal, but the few we will, he has the ability to turn them into gold.


All in all, we once come again armed up to the teeth. We won't play pretty, we won't play fast, but we will play solid and calm. In raw talent and ability this team is better to the 2004 but that doesn't mean much. I expect to get out of our group and be eliminated right after.



The Netherlands(by shannn)
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the Netherlands


Goalkeepers


Maarten Stekelenburg, 29 years old, AS Roma.
Successor of Edwin van der Sar (one of the greatest goalkeepers Holland has had) and has already proven himself that he can save Holland from losing points. He's tall (1,97m), strong and has decent reflexes. Imo one of the top keepers in the world (top 5) normally (this season it's somewhat bad compared to before though).

Defense


This is Hollands biggest weakness and this could cost us the Euro Cup if you compare to the other top class countries participating.

John Heitinga, 29 years old, defender of Everton. He's the only one in our defense that has played a reasonable season compared to the others.

Joris Mathijsen, 32 years old, defender of Malaga CF. He's really old and not our best defender. Compared to the last generations he's one of our weakest central defenders we've had in Holland. Very slow and afaik hasn't been playing much for Malaga.

Erik Pieters, 23 years old, left back of PSV. He's supposedly our best defender on the left back but he's injured now. This is our biggest weakness in the defense. He's slow, loses his duels a lot and makes poor decisions. He's only here because there is no one better.

Gregory van der Wiel, 24 years old, right back of Ajax. He's Hollands best right back and most talented players. His defending isn't bad but it isn't that strong either. He attacks from the flanks a lot and he does it really well like Dani Alves for Barcelona. He's fast, agile and can give decent passes. The combination with Robben will definitely make this one of our stronger sides on the right.

Midfield


This is where it starts for Holland

Rafael van der Vaart, 29 years old, Tottenham Hotspurs. He's one of our top players in the team and a world class player but is still sitting on our bench because there are better players on his position which is the left half.
His strong points are his insight, positioning and his deadly passes and also quite agile in the tight spaces.
His weak point is that he's slow, gets injured a lot and most of all his condition isn't strong as he can't play a full game normally.

Mark van Bommel, 35 years old, AC Milan. I think he's our oldest player in the team but still such a world class defensive mid fielder. He's strong, not too bad on the speed but most of all he's cunning. He plays extremely cunning mind games and physical tricks on his opponents. He plays the referee to get more leeway for making fouls. One of the running engines of our team and in the last World Cup as well.

Nigel de Jong, 27 years old, Manchester City. With Mark van Bommel he'll be the defensive block on the midfield stopping all attacks. He's reasonably fast, strong and his defensive skills are good as well. He makes a lot of fouls that terrifies his opponents and in some way he doesn't get punished heavily for it imo. If you don't watch out he'll break your legs and smiles with it. He's Holland's B.A. Baraccus.
Weak points are his intelligence as he makes bad decisions most of the times and he gets emotional quite fast. So getting him out of his rhythm is done quickly.

Ibrahim Affelay, 26 years old, Barcelona. One of Hollands biggest talents. He usually plays left half/left forward striker depending on the lineup.
He's fast, has good passes, strong on the ball but is very easy to get injured. He has been missing almost the entire season for Barcelona but hopefully he'll be in shape for the Euro Cup because he can make a difference.
There aren't any major weak points in his play as he helps defending and his offense is really good and doesn't lose the ball that much.

Wesley Sneijder, 27 years old, Internazionale. Offensive central midfielder. He has been playing quite bad current season and hasn't been in top shape. Normally when he's in shape he's one of the best players in the world.
His strong points are his passes, he is dual legged and has a powerful shot.
Weak point is that he's small so he isn't strong in the air.

Dirk Kuyt, 32 years old, Liverpool FC. Right half of Holland. Not much to say about him. He's a runner and he probably runs the most of the team. He helps defending a lot and when our right back van der Wiel is attacking he's usually defending.
He usually has the preference over Arjen Robben by our coach (crazy isn't it?) on the right half position.

Arjen Robben, 28 years old, Bayern Munchen. Right half of Holland. He's one of our top3 players in the team and is left legged. World class player as he can beat almost any player when it's 1v1 if he's in shape.
Currently he isn't in his best shape from what I've seen so far.
His strong points are his speed, his precise shots and his ability to pass multiple opponents.
His weak points is that he's usually injured, not strong and his defensive skills are bad.

Offense


Here comes probably the 2 most in form strikers on the planet that Holland luckily has in 1 team
But our coach will probably not use these 2 together in 1 team as there's only 1 spot for a striker.

Robin van Persie, 28 years old, Arsenal. Forward striker of Holland and recently crowned Player of the year in the EPL.
Not our strongest striker in the team but the better player overall for Holland.
He's fast, has strong shots, good passes, strong on the ball, agile too much to name tbh
His weak point? Well the only weak point I would say is that he doesn't score much for Holland :/
He is not our best striker for Holland and hopefully he can repeat what he did for Arsenal at the Euro Cup.

Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, 28 years old, Schalke 04. Forward striker of Holland and a bench sitter because we have Robin. He's a real goalgetter and currently the number one striker in Germany.
He's reasonably fast, decent shots, decent passes pretty much decent on all but 1 thing. He's the best when it comes to positioning in front of the goal. He's on the right place on the right time almost every time for Holland. One of Hollands most scoring striker and it's crazy that he's sitting on our bench.
His weak point is that compared to RVP he's the worse player in overall player skills and which is the reason he's never in the starting lineup when RVP can play.


Germany(by znag)
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Germany


Goalkeepers


Manuel Neuer, 26 years old, FC Bayern Munich
I would consent with some people who call him the best goal keeper in the world. At least he is in the top five.

Defense


If there is a weakness in Germany's national team, it could be the defense.

Jerome Boateng, 23 years old, defender of FC Bayern Munich. Boateng's main position is center back, but he can also play full back, which supposedly will be his role in the upcoming EURO.

Holger Badstuber, 23 years old, defender of FC Bayern Munich. Holger Badstuber has played a total of 49 games for Bayern Munich this season and has been one of the club’s most consistent players.

Mats Hummels, 23 years old, defender of Borussia Dortmund. Hummels's performances this season displayed great quality in tackling, positioning, and composure. He has attracted praise from pundits and coaches alike, and he is considered one of the best defenders in the Bundesliga, and in Europe, even if he couldn't hold up his form in the CL.

Philipp Lahm, 28 years old, full back of FC Bayern Munich. Lahm is considered one of the best full backs in the world, and was included in the World Cup team of the tournament in 2006 and 2010, the UEFA Team of the Tournament in 2008 and in the FIFA Team of the Year 2008. He is one of the "oldies" in Germanys national team, and also the captain of the team.

Midfield


I consider Germany's midfield at least on par with Spain's. It is really potent.

Bastian Schweinsteiger, 27 years old, FC Bayern Munich. He is Germanys leader and a world class player but is still trying to recover from some recent injuries. He is still not up to his usual form.

Sami Khedira, 25 years old, Real Madrid. He is considered a dynamic midfielder with great aerial ability who can cover a lot of ground, recover the ball and quickly join in the team attack with his powerful mid-range shooting and heading ability. The fact that he forms the defensive midfield of Madrid together with Xabi Alonso should speak for it self.

Mesut Özil, 23 years old, Real Madrid. Özil is acclaimed for his finesse and improvisation as an attacking midfielder. His style and knack for providing assists for his team-mates has been compared to that of Real Madrid legend Zinedine Zidane, even if he lacks the finishing ability. In 2011, he ranked second in assists in La Liga with 17, and first in major European competitions with 25.

Toni Kroos, 22 years old, FC Bayern Munich. Central midfielder. Five years ago, Toni Kroos was the best player in the world in his age group. Kroos’ technique and playmaking vision is impeccable. This season he has vastly improved his his ball-retention and decision-making skills.

Thomas Müller, 22 years old, FC Bayern Munich. Müller plays as a midfielder or forward, and has been deployed in a variety of attacking roles - as an attacking midfielder, second striker, and on either wing. He has been praised for his pace, technique and composure. He was named as the Best Young Player of the 2010 World Cup and won the Golden Boot as the tournament's top scorer, with five goals and three assists.

Offense


Lukas Podolski, 26 years old, 1. FC Köln (going to Arsenal). Podolski is a left footed attacker known for his strong shot, technique and probing attacks from the left side. The 2011–12 season was the final season in his second spell for Köln. Despite the team's relegation to the 2. Fußball-Bundesliga, Podolski impressively scored 18 goals in 29 league Fußball-Bundesliga appearances.

Mario Gomez, 26 years old, FC Bayern Munich. Gomez can shoot with both feet, and is considered to be a moderate aerial threat. His best ability however remains as his anticipation to crosses and passes and finish them. Arsène Wenger described him as "a great finisher who is often in the right place to finish off moves." Moreover, his body balance and ability to hold up the ball often creates trouble for defenders.

Miroslav Klose, 33 years old, SS Lazio. Klose has played 113 times and scored 63 goals for Germany. With five goals, he was the top scorer and Golden Boot winner at the 2006 World Cup in Germany. Klose also scored five goals in his debut World Cup, the 2002 World Cup, all of which were headers. He scored four times in 2010 World Cup, giving him a total of 14 World Cup goals.
During the Euro 2012 qualifiers, Klose has scored at least one goal in every single game he played, striking against all of Germanys opponents.
In his first season for Lazio he scored 12 goals in 27 games.


The Odds
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Tournament Calendar

There is a pretty awesome calendar/schedule on UEFA official site which you can find it here http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/tournament-calendar/index.html

I also have shamelessly make a copy/paste of the site which can be view in the spoiler
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Coverage
This sport event will cover by most of major broadcast companies all over the world. Here is some website that can keep you up-to-date.
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www.goal.com
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/index.html



What to watch
This is only my personal point of view after a quick look at the groups. This will also be the main discussion of this thread.

Group A

This group is rather boring and the easiest group out of the four, beside from Greece, all other teams have a good chance to advance to the quarterfinal. Game to watch should be Czech vs Poland, Poland vs Russia.

Group C

Two big names Spain and Italy with Ireland as surprise factor. This will be a very interesting group while the game between Spain and Italy is a must watch and also a decider for whom will take the 1st place. Aside from Ireland vs Croatia, all other games a good to watch.

Group D

Compare to the other host, Ukraine is really out of luck. France and England are the favourite but Sweden can put on some big big surprise as well. France is the favourite, England has a slight advantage over Sweden and Ukraine but not by much. All games will be tense and awesome to watch.

Group B

And here we come to the death group of EURO 2012. Beside from Denmark, this group contains finalist, semi-finalist of some recent Worldcup and EURO. This will be the most interesting group to watch, I cant really decide who has the edge between
Netherlands, Germany and Portugal, we will just have to wait untill their last friendly match later this month to see who is the one that has the best form comes into the competition.
Also, never count Denmark out, just remember what they did in EURO 1992. All matches are must watch, so schedule your time early!



I will continue to add more info into this thread. Please use this thread as a discussion thread for EURO 2012.

Teams rating

Aseq make a tier list here, this is only his opinion. Discussion is welcome
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My (Quick) Tier List :
S: Spain, Germany
A+: Italy, Portugal, Netherlands
A: England, Croatia, Russia, France
B: Denmark, Sweden, Czech Republic, Greece
C: Ireland, Poland, Ukraine


What is football/soccer ?
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http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/lawsofthegame/law/newsid=1285960.html

Have fun getting into the most popular and exciting sport in the world!
Terran
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
May 02 2012 09:08 GMT
#2
God damn Group B is crazy.

I'll definitely be watching the Euro but I'm not sure who I want to root for.
It's easier not to.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
May 02 2012 09:11 GMT
#3
Shit just got real. Still a month until it starts though but I am so much more stoked about this than the Olympics.
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
May 02 2012 09:27 GMT
#4
Go Go Germany dominate that group of death
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
May 02 2012 09:43 GMT
#5
have to disagree with the OP's predictions concerning the groups. first of all as a football fan you should watch ALL of the games if you can. Imo the quality of the average team in the european championship is far superior from the world cup (f.e.) - every team can win this realistic speaking.

I agree with your point that group A is probably the worst group, but calling it boring? Every team is of equal skill so we should have some intense fights which is always fun to see. Also greece deserves to be at the EC (as they qualified first in their qualifikation group) besides they won the EC in 2004 so i don't get why you give them so much shit? Is it because they don't play that attractive offensive football? :/

The rest of the groups will be very close too with group C beeing presumably the most clear, but i can also see croatia or ireland advancing so nothing is set in stone there too.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
May 02 2012 09:47 GMT
#6
rofl. group a vs group b. Once again the wisdom of 'random' seeding.

Ukraine has a decent chance because both England and France are still undergoing significant turmoil following their shameful World Cup performance from two years ago. Who is the best French or English player right now? No one knows!
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 02 2012 09:52 GMT
#7
On May 02 2012 18:03 Caphe wrote:





Group A

This group is rather boring and the easiest group out of the four, beside from Greece, all other teams have a good chance to advance to the quarterfinal. Game to watch should be Czech vs Poland, Poland vs Russia.




Euro 2004 would like a word with you, xP.
But seriously we are 2nd favorite behind Russia who is very strong. Dunno why you rate us so low.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 02 2012 10:00 GMT
#8
I just don't see anyone stopping Spain.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 10:08:29
May 02 2012 10:06 GMT
#9
On May 02 2012 18:52 Steveling wrote:
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On May 02 2012 18:03 Caphe wrote:





Group A

This group is rather boring and the easiest group out of the four, beside from Greece, all other teams have a good chance to advance to the quarterfinal. Game to watch should be Czech vs Poland, Poland vs Russia.




Euro 2004 would like a word with you, xP.
But seriously we are 2nd favorite behind Russia who is very strong. Dunno why you rate us so low.

Greece played some of the most negative football I've ever seen. Still, keys players from that era is now gone or at their worst form in their professional career. No team in the final is a weak team but compare to other three Greece is at a slight disadvantage.

@rapture: yep, true fans will watch all the matches they can, I myself will do that. But its not the case for many people so I just want to give out some preview so people with little to no knowledge of football can have a good start in what they are going to watch.
Terran
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 02 2012 10:09 GMT
#10
On May 02 2012 19:06 Caphe wrote:
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On May 02 2012 18:52 Steveling wrote:
On May 02 2012 18:03 Caphe wrote:





Group A

This group is rather boring and the easiest group out of the four, beside from Greece, all other teams have a good chance to advance to the quarterfinal. Game to watch should be Czech vs Poland, Poland vs Russia.




Euro 2004 would like a word with you, xP.
But seriously we are 2nd favorite behind Russia who is very strong. Dunno why you rate us so low.

Greece played some of the most negative football I've ever seen. Still, keys players from that era is now gone or at their worst form in their professional career. No team in the final is a weak team but compare to other three Greece is at a slight disadvantage.


I bet you can't name even 3 of our starting players. You are just talking out of your ass.
And we played what we could, just like chelsea against barca.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
SnowyPsilocybin
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom265 Posts
May 02 2012 10:11 GMT
#11
Time for some more hopeless cheering for England to watch them play so unbelievably bad, gonna be a good summer with this and the Olympics
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
May 02 2012 10:15 GMT
#12
On May 02 2012 19:06 Caphe wrote:
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On May 02 2012 18:52 Steveling wrote:
On May 02 2012 18:03 Caphe wrote:





Group A

This group is rather boring and the easiest group out of the four, beside from Greece, all other teams have a good chance to advance to the quarterfinal. Game to watch should be Czech vs Poland, Poland vs Russia.




Euro 2004 would like a word with you, xP.
But seriously we are 2nd favorite behind Russia who is very strong. Dunno why you rate us so low.

Greece played some of the most negative football I've ever seen. Still, keys players from that era is now gone or at their worst form in their professional career. No team in the final is a weak team but compare to other three Greece is at a slight disadvantage.


Not really imo. No one knows where Poland stands. They will get tons of crowd support and thats their strongest point.
The Czech Repulic is not looking that strong atm, certainly not as strong as they were 5-10 years ago.
Russia is a strong team and the favorit in the group.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 02 2012 10:16 GMT
#13
Will be rooting for Sweden/Italy of course, but I have to admit Germany or Spain are the most likely winners.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 12:03:43
May 02 2012 12:01 GMT
#14
greece is not weak
imo their chances to advance aren't worse than polands (as mentioned before, it's difficult to predict, because of the home crowd) or czech republics
russia - gre, russia is the favourite, but still - I wouldn't be surprised if greece would take a win

edit: thanks for the thread Caphe
Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
May 02 2012 12:17 GMT
#15
On May 02 2012 18:11 DaCruise wrote:
Shit just got real. Still a month until it starts though but I am so much more stoked about this than the Olympics.

Hell yeah. The Olympics don't have Nicolas Bendtner, or as we fans refer to him as, Nikki B.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
May 02 2012 12:29 GMT
#16
Ouch at Group B, talk about group of death.

Anyway Spain should be the obvious favourite to win the whole thing. Germany and Netherlands should have a decent chance as well.

Then theres Italy and France that seems to be getting into better shape again but I wouldn't consider them a championship contender, also England never wins anything. (sorry)

And 3rd tier maybe Portugal and a potential upset climbing high from Group A.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
May 02 2012 12:34 GMT
#17
I hate Euro cup and Holland together

Netherlands always ends up in groups of death.
2012: Portugal, Germany Denmark and Netherlands
2008: France,Italy, Romania and Netherlands
2004: Czech, Germany, Latvia and Netherlands
2000: France, Czech, Denmark and Netherlands

Interestingly though is that Holland always proceeded to move on from these groups of death.
This time however I don't think Holland will move on. I think Germany and Denmark will move on this time.

Denmark having finished on top of Portugal and just are always good and Germany is a no-brainer tbh.

Holland has weak defense and even our offensive players aren't in shape except for our 2 strikers which our coach will probably only use RVP and not Huntelaar (crazy tbh).

Portugal never impressed me tbh. They have great individual players but are not strong when it comes to playing as a team.

I sincerely hope we don't see a Battle of Nuremberg v2.0 this time around
And well.... Germany and Holland I only hope that Holland crushes Germany and then i'm fine if they are knocked out in group stages :p
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 12:38:58
May 02 2012 12:35 GMT
#18
That's a sick group for Ireland. But still rooting for them.

To think we could have been in Czechs' spot in Group A or even England's in Group D if our FA didn't have a brainfart and sacked the only competent manager we're ever going to have mid-qualifiers for no reason at all.

Anyway

Russia/Poland, Netherlands/Germany, Spain/Ireland, Sweden/France

And obviously Korea to win in the end.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 02 2012 12:37 GMT
#19
Wow it's a travesty that groups A and B were able to come out that way. One of the big teams from B should have been in A. Sucks for the tournament that one of those titans is going to be out and two of those clearly inferior teams in A will make it through.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18560 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 12:40:04
May 02 2012 12:39 GMT
#20
My money is on France to win it all.

They will profit from having no pressure from fans and media.
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