• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:02
CEST 00:02
KST 07:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster11Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week4Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer12Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2
StarCraft 2
General
HSC 27 players & groups The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster Jumy Talks: Dedication to SC2 in 2025, & more... Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 - 27th July 2025 $200 Biweekly - StarCraft Evolution League #1 SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series EWC 2025 Online Qualifiers (May 28-June 1, June 21-22)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Preserving Battlereports.com ASL20 Preliminary Maps Where is effort ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - WB Finals & LBR3 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - LB Round 4 & 5
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Social coupon sites UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Pro Gamers Cope with Str…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 761 users

The 2012 UEFA EURO - Page 4

Forum Index > UEFA Euro 2012
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 43 44 45 Next All
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 12:15:39
May 03 2012 12:15 GMT
#61
I really hope for an exiting match between Holland vs Germany
We need to avenge our 3:0 loss before and what better than in the group stages (and finals hopefully?)
Ultimate joy for me tbh `

* Dream mode off *
Okay, so Germany is probably going to crush Group B and the rest will have to battle for 2nd place.
I'm not counting Denmark out because they're really solid as a team.
I can see any of the remaining 3 teams get 2nd place and at the end of the day it's going to end up on the shape of the day the players are in.

Hopefully for Holland our top players Sneijder, Affelay, Robben get into top shape with RVP, Huntelaar and VDV we could rock this Euro cup.

I'll be praying to God every single second about our defense not making too many (hopefully no) major mistakes. Our defense is just so poor it's unbelievable when you compare it to the offensive star players we have >.>
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
May 03 2012 12:27 GMT
#62
On May 03 2012 21:04 clusen wrote:
Our defensive midfield will be key to our success considering our style, so 2 out of Schweinsteiger/Khedira/Kroos, depending on who actually plays. Schweinsteiger should be set in stone, he is our leader and when he is in shape (like before his ~6 month injury) our best player. Khedira will most likely start, but you can't dismiss Kroos as an option imo. He started quite often for our national team in 2011, he always delivered and is even a better player since then, he improved so much this season that I would not be too surprised to see Schweinsteiger and Kroos starting.

Kroos is in great form, but against teams with great offensive potential like the Netherlands or Portugal a more defensively minded player like Khedira is needed next to Schweinsteiger imo. Kroos played well against the Dutch last time, but it was in Schweinsteiger's role and with Khedira next to him.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
May 03 2012 12:37 GMT
#63
that group B and C...going to be tough groups >< group a is so weak..
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
May 03 2012 12:43 GMT
#64
I just hope Netherlands plays good football this year. I don't even care if they go out, aslong as its in a blaze of glory. Thats better than reaching the finals while playing terrible and a bit dirty for most of the tournament. Previous EURO made me prouder than the world cup despite going out second round. I do not like this new play only to win attitude that is all over the place now.

Very much hope that the game against Portugal doesn't turn into the digraceful game it was last time. That shit was an affront to everything good and pure about this game. Though I must admit Boulahrouz kicking Ronaldo out brought me some guilty pleasure, even if it was a crime against humanity.

Don't know what to think about Denmark, they've done well but the Dutch side has so many great players compared to the Danes that they are the heavy favorites.

I think Germany has a great chance of taking this whole thing. Great team and beautiful play. Will be rooting for them if/when Holland goes out. Looking forward to Holland - Germany for sure. Spain ofcourse has the best team on paper, but that doesn't mean much.

In the end alot is going to depend on our star players being in good shape. If RVP, Robben and Sneijder have a good tournament they will do amazing. But that seems unlikely right now.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 03 2012 12:49 GMT
#65
On May 03 2012 20:25 aseq wrote:
Yes, Bierhoff, Klinsmann, Sammer

My (Quick) Tier List :
S: Spain, Germany
A+: Italy, Portugal, Netherlands
A: England, Croatia, Russia, France
B: Denmark, Sweden, Czech Republic, Greece
C: Ireland, Poland, Ukraine

I would not put Croatia so far up. We played like crap during qualifiers in weakest qualifier group and got to EU2012 only because of one good game against Turkey.

If they continue like that they are B or even C.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
May 03 2012 13:47 GMT
#66
I say germany wins it. in the real - bayern match, there were like 9 potential german national team starters. But then again, they do have that semifinal curse... I like spain too, but villa probably won't be the same as before injury, and even though they have so much depth at midfield, their strikers are much poorer
Kaesebrot
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany128 Posts
May 03 2012 13:57 GMT
#67
I would not put Croatia so far up.


You got Modric, Perisic and Mandzukic! I believe that Croatia will win their Group and make the Semis!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 03 2012 13:59 GMT
#68
On May 03 2012 22:57 Kaesebrot wrote:
Show nested quote +
I would not put Croatia so far up.


You got Modric, Perisic and Mandzukic! I believe that Croatia will win their Group and make the Semis!

Bilic their manager is an important part too. I would bet on Croatia make the quarter but not so sure about the semi. Also Bilic said recently that his goal is the FINAL.
Terran
Timurid
Profile Joined April 2011
Guyana (French)656 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 14:30:48
May 03 2012 14:05 GMT
#69
On May 03 2012 22:59 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 22:57 Kaesebrot wrote:
I would not put Croatia so far up.


You got Modric, Perisic and Mandzukic! I believe that Croatia will win their Group and make the Semis!

Bilic their manager is an important part too. I would bet on Croatia make the quarter but not so sure about the semi. Also Bilic said recently that his goal is the FINAL.

I don't think Croatia will make it out of the group. I have a feeling italy can edge spain with a good defensive stance in that group.
vanhio
Profile Joined November 2010
Niue1017 Posts
May 03 2012 14:06 GMT
#70
Spain for the win
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18385 Posts
May 03 2012 14:13 GMT
#71
On May 03 2012 20:25 aseq wrote:
Yes, Bierhoff, Klinsmann, Sammer

My (Quick) Tier List :
S: Spain, Germany
A+: Italy, Portugal, Netherlands
A: England, Croatia, Russia, France
B: Denmark, Sweden, Czech Republic, Greece
C: Ireland, Poland, Ukraine


Sorry, but I fail to see how Portugal can be A+ while France is not.

They haven't lost for over a year and their opponents werent jokes either. I rate France more dangerous than Netherlands based on defensive stability.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
May 03 2012 14:26 GMT
#72
On May 03 2012 23:05 Timurid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 22:59 Caphe wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:57 Kaesebrot wrote:
I would not put Croatia so far up.


You got Modric, Perisic and Mandzukic! I believe that Croatia will win their Group and make the Semis!

Bilic their manager is an important part too. I would bet on Croatia make the quarter but not so sure about the semi. Also Bilic said recently that his goal is the FINAL.

I don't think Croatia will make it out of the group. France will dominate it while England may slide by to grab the 2nd spot.

That's fine and dandy, but you're mistaken. Croatia is in group C (with Spain, Ireland and Italy), while England and France are in group D (with Sweden and Ukraine).
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Timurid
Profile Joined April 2011
Guyana (French)656 Posts
May 03 2012 14:29 GMT
#73
On May 03 2012 23:26 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 23:05 Timurid wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:59 Caphe wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:57 Kaesebrot wrote:
I would not put Croatia so far up.


You got Modric, Perisic and Mandzukic! I believe that Croatia will win their Group and make the Semis!

Bilic their manager is an important part too. I would bet on Croatia make the quarter but not so sure about the semi. Also Bilic said recently that his goal is the FINAL.

I don't think Croatia will make it out of the group. France will dominate it while England may slide by to grab the 2nd spot.

That's fine and dandy, but you're mistaken. Croatia is in group C (with Spain, Ireland and Italy), while England and France are in group D (with Sweden and Ukraine).

i feel like a fool. Anyway, they still won't surpass italy and spain in that group. Thanks for point that out.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 03 2012 14:30 GMT
#74
On May 03 2012 22:57 Kaesebrot wrote:
Show nested quote +
I would not put Croatia so far up.


You got Modric, Perisic and Mandzukic! I believe that Croatia will win their Group and make the Semis!

3 players don't make a team and none of them are anywhere near players like Ronaldo, Messi or Drogba (a few years ago).
And Modric plays like crap for nation team. Last time he played well was last Euro.

And if you need to put a name forward mention Jelavic, he is killing currently in Everton. Still more then half the team are not regulars in their teams and our defending line is either old or crap.

I truly don't see Croatia coming out of the group, and neither do other people from my country. This Euro will be the least visited big competition by fans from Croatia.

This Croatia is not the same one that demolished England and Germany in 2008 and through bad luck managed to lose to Turkey.

If anyone is a betting man don't bet on Croatia, I am giving you an inside tip atm.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
May 03 2012 15:00 GMT
#75
Well we will see and you have obv more inside prob than others, but just from the players, croatia should be pretty good. Modric, Mandzukic, Olic, Lovin. Srna, Corluka are all international class players.
Timurid
Profile Joined April 2011
Guyana (French)656 Posts
May 03 2012 15:05 GMT
#76
On May 04 2012 00:00 Kenpark wrote:
Well we will see and you have obv more inside prob than others, but just from the players, croatia should be pretty good. Modric, Mandzukic, Olic, Lovin. Srna, Corluka are all international class players.

They won't beat italy nor spain.
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
May 03 2012 15:55 GMT
#77
On May 03 2012 20:25 aseq wrote:
Yes, Bierhoff, Klinsmann, Sammer

My (Quick) Tier List :
S: Spain, Germany
A+: Italy, Portugal, Netherlands
A: England, Croatia, Russia, France
B: Denmark, Sweden, Czech Republic, Greece
C: Ireland, Poland, Ukraine


My (also quick) Tier List:
S: Spain
A+: Netherlands, Germany, Italy
A: Croatia, Denmark, Portugal, France
B: England, Russia, Sweden, Greece, Poland
C: Ireland, Ukraine, Czech Republic

Spain is the team to beat, so I would put them a little bit ahead of the rest, but especially Netherlands, Italy or Germany will have a shot at doing so.
Portugal is a bit overrated in my opinion. They finished second in the last two qualifiers (WC and EC) behind Denmark, so it wouldn't be a total suprise if they finished last in the group after Netherland, Germany and Denmark.
I would rate Poland maybe as B, just because they have 3 strong players from Dortmund with Piszczek, Lewandowski and Blaszczykowski and they looked quite ok in the friendly vs us. Plus they have homecourt advantage.
Englands team just doesn't look scary at the moment, especially with Wilshere out and Rooney missing the first two games. I think they really need to rebuild and maybe they will be more of a factor in the coming WC.
Other than that I mostly agree with you.
Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
May 03 2012 16:05 GMT
#78
Where did all this enthusiasm for Italy come from? Oh I do hope they do ok, mostly because Pirlo is just absolute class. But have a look at their possible players - not enough variation there really, can't actually name an Italian top level winger myself - Maggio maybe.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 03 2012 16:23 GMT
#79
On May 04 2012 01:05 Surrealistic wrote:
Where did all this enthusiasm for Italy come from? Oh I do hope they do ok, mostly because Pirlo is just absolute class. But have a look at their possible players - not enough variation there really, can't actually name an Italian top level winger myself - Maggio maybe.

Meh, wingers are overrated. In 2006 they only had Camoranesi.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Kaesebrot
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany128 Posts
May 03 2012 16:24 GMT
#80
A+: Netherlands, Germany, Italy


Italy HAHAHAHAHAHA! Italy and France are not even close to spain/germany or holland. lolz!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 43 44 45 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 58m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 224
Livibee 164
ProTech70
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 117
LancerX 52
Aegong 50
HiyA 42
Dota 2
capcasts253
Pyrionflax207
febbydoto5
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Grubby4013
Dendi1319
Counter-Strike
fl0m1807
Stewie2K1202
Foxcn201
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox314
Liquid`Ken48
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu649
Other Games
summit1g4335
FrodaN1842
Mew2King77
ZombieGrub67
Trikslyr11
ViBE10
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 53
• Hupsaiya 36
• RyuSc2 9
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV118
League of Legends
• Doublelift4654
Other Games
• imaqtpie1065
• Scarra509
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 58m
The PondCast
11h 58m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
HomeStory Cup
1d 12h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
CSO Cup
2 days
BSL: ProLeague
2 days
SOOP
3 days
SHIN vs ByuN
HomeStory Cup
3 days
BSL: ProLeague
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV European League
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Rose Open S1
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.