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On June 26 2012 06:11 elsezilla wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 05:39 Rebs wrote:On June 26 2012 00:46 elsezilla wrote:On June 25 2012 22:03 RvB wrote:On June 25 2012 08:14 KalWarkov wrote:
whoever says german fans are bad didnt follow the world championship 2006. most likely because he was too little to understand whats going at yet.
Germany - Italy
Portugal - Spain
very interesting matches. Germany vs Spain finals are very likely, with Spain having a slight edge. I don't think it's that likely tbh I would say Germany vs Italy is 60%-40% in favor of Germany. Italy's defense is looking so damn solid and Pirlo can find a hole in every defense they just need a striker who scores instead of Balotelli... Spain - Portugal is in favor of Spain obv. but Portugal does have a chance. Spain usually plays with their defense on the half of the field so if Portugal manages to send Ronaldo in that space with his speed I can easily see them score. I don't think Spain showed how good they really are though I think they've only been playing on 80% so I would give them the edge in this game with 80% chance to win :D. 60-40, rofl... Get your shit straight dude, Italy did win the game last night, but that was on penalties, and against England, a team that has not impressed at all as of late. I predict Germany to win the game, and its not cause Im dutch and dutch people have a secrect crush on germans, no, their team is clearly the better one. As for you RvB, well I guess you just have to study more football, xD I think that assesment for the Italy Germany game was pretty reasonable, I dont like putting a number on it but theres no reason Italy cant give Germany a game and a very good one at that. Why does he need to get his "shit" together when hes making the same prediction as you are? I think its you who need to get his "shit together", making a half assed assessment and telling people they dont know anything, especially when you come in and say the same thing. Or would you wager that Germany is 100 percent a confirmed winner and we shud just give them a bye ? I think Italy were very impressive, England were a tough not to crack and Italy wasnt lucky. On another day they put away their chances. On yet another one maybe England even sneaks in a goal and defends it to the end. Thats just the game. Germany while the best team at the tournament and pretty clear favourite is no infallible juggernaut. They can be beat and Italy while not the better team to me has certainly showed enough football to be able to beat them on their day. Now Rebs, my pakistanian friend, forgive me for making "a half assed assessment and telling people they dont know anything". Not that im quite sure of what it means, but considering it involves the term "ass" alot i asume it is something I "would do". (no pun intented). Back OT: Yes, Italy played good, but I think that it was more of a trick, a shadow on the wall. You see football is a curious thing. When the other team (England) only defends, then ofc it will look like Italy is much better. But that doesnt mean that they (Italy) per se played good football, and it certainly doesnt mean that they have much of a chance against a team such as Germany.
yea
Italy was totally demolished by Spain right? they couldn't do anything
have you even watched any games besides the ones Germany played in?
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On June 26 2012 06:23 anomalopidae wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 06:11 elsezilla wrote:On June 26 2012 05:39 Rebs wrote:On June 26 2012 00:46 elsezilla wrote:On June 25 2012 22:03 RvB wrote:On June 25 2012 08:14 KalWarkov wrote:
whoever says german fans are bad didnt follow the world championship 2006. most likely because he was too little to understand whats going at yet.
Germany - Italy
Portugal - Spain
very interesting matches. Germany vs Spain finals are very likely, with Spain having a slight edge. I don't think it's that likely tbh I would say Germany vs Italy is 60%-40% in favor of Germany. Italy's defense is looking so damn solid and Pirlo can find a hole in every defense they just need a striker who scores instead of Balotelli... Spain - Portugal is in favor of Spain obv. but Portugal does have a chance. Spain usually plays with their defense on the half of the field so if Portugal manages to send Ronaldo in that space with his speed I can easily see them score. I don't think Spain showed how good they really are though I think they've only been playing on 80% so I would give them the edge in this game with 80% chance to win :D. 60-40, rofl... Get your shit straight dude, Italy did win the game last night, but that was on penalties, and against England, a team that has not impressed at all as of late. I predict Germany to win the game, and its not cause Im dutch and dutch people have a secrect crush on germans, no, their team is clearly the better one. As for you RvB, well I guess you just have to study more football, xD I think that assesment for the Italy Germany game was pretty reasonable, I dont like putting a number on it but theres no reason Italy cant give Germany a game and a very good one at that. Why does he need to get his "shit" together when hes making the same prediction as you are? I think its you who need to get his "shit together", making a half assed assessment and telling people they dont know anything, especially when you come in and say the same thing. Or would you wager that Germany is 100 percent a confirmed winner and we shud just give them a bye ? I think Italy were very impressive, England were a tough not to crack and Italy wasnt lucky. On another day they put away their chances. On yet another one maybe England even sneaks in a goal and defends it to the end. Thats just the game. Germany while the best team at the tournament and pretty clear favourite is no infallible juggernaut. They can be beat and Italy while not the better team to me has certainly showed enough football to be able to beat them on their day. Now Rebs, my pakistanian friend, forgive me for making "a half assed assessment and telling people they dont know anything". Not that im quite sure of what it means, but considering it involves the term "ass" alot i asume it is something I "would do". (no pun intented). Back OT: Yes, Italy played good, but I think that it was more of a trick, a shadow on the wall. You see football is a curious thing. When the other team (England) only defends, then ofc it will look like Italy is much better. But that doesnt mean that they (Italy) per se played good football, and it certainly doesnt mean that they have much of a chance against a team such as Germany. yea Italy was totally demolished by Spain right? they couldn't do anything have you even watched any games besides the ones Germany played in?
I dont think its worth discussing at this point.
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Germany is favoured against Italy. Spain is favoured against Portugal.
It's the semi finals & all teams look strong. So every team is able to take the tournament.
On June 26 2012 06:21 Steveling wrote:
We scored twice versus germany with 3 chances and the italian offense(even with balotelli lol) is infinite times better than ours.
If they make half the chances they made vs england I don't think germany will be able to keep their sheet clean.
I think italy has a slight advantage cause pirlo.
Germany will play different against Italy compared to against your country. i.e. Schweinsteiger alone was our defense against your 3 midfielders (Khedira, Özil, etc all offense). He managed that most of the time fine, but we're not stupid enough to let Schweinsteiger play solo vs Pirlo & friends.
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On June 26 2012 06:21 Steveling wrote:
We scored twice versus germany with 3 chances and the italian offense(even with balotelli lol) is infinite times better than ours.
If they make half the chances they made vs england I don't think germany will be able to keep their sheet clean.
I think italy has a slight advantage cause pirlo.
England let Pirlo have free reign for whatever reason, I very much doubt the German team will make the same mistake. He is a good player and will probably still create chances, but I very much doubt that he can dominate the game like against England when taken care of properly.
That said Italy is a high-quality team with good tactical discipline. I believe they have a decent chance against any team in the world, and they showed that against Spain.
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Pedro Proenca has been selected to referee the finals. A good year for him, he also was the referee in the Champions League Final.
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On June 29 2012 22:37 TranceStorm wrote:
Pedro Proenca has been selected to referee the finals. A good year for him, he also was the referee in the Champions League Final.
Wait I thought refs from countries that progressed to semifinals were ineligible for semis and the final? Same as Worlc Cup and quarterfinals.
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What is the purpose of the rule of giving players yellow cards for pulling off their shirts? Seems a bit silly.
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Go Spain!
I'm not actually much of a Spain fan, but as long as Italy loses I'm a happy camper.
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On June 29 2012 23:59 gruff wrote:
What is the purpose of the rule of giving players yellow cards for pulling off their shirts? Seems a bit silly.
It's for delaying the match. But yeah, it's a bit silly.
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On June 30 2012 02:29 Hamp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 23:59 gruff wrote:
What is the purpose of the rule of giving players yellow cards for pulling off their shirts? Seems a bit silly. It's for delaying the match. But yeah, it's a bit silly.
I was told it was because of advertising on shirts, the most exposure they get is when a player scores. Don't know if thats the reason but for delaying the match seems mad.
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Yeah I do think it's advertising - because the cameras all zoom in and focus on the scorer, all the pictures in match reports are of the scorer etc. I've also heard that it's also because the arabic countries are offended by nudity and since it's broadcasted in that region, the lucrative money etc. Certainly advertising hasn't got anything to do with the international game.
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Pulling off shirts is completely banned, just to avoid controversy about giving yellow cards - some players could advertise there, some players could also pull some political stuff etc. etc.
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Yes it is about advertisement but I have never heard the reason for delaying a match?
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well it's like this, sure lately it's been about advertisement but you have to know that before advertisement and before the ban players who scored would take off their shirt and throw it to the fans
now getting a new shirt delays the match since I'm not sure they keep a stock of shirts near the bench, and there's this thing that you need to have proper equipment to be allowed to play which also includes a team shirt
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18657633
Uefa president Michel Platini says the 2020 European Championship could be spread across various cities in Europe, rather than having a single host.
I had big hopes for Platini when he got the job. Now, I think he's just another Blatter, or possibly even worse.
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On July 01 2012 00:41 Telcontar wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18657633Show nested quote +Uefa president Michel Platini says the 2020 European Championship could be spread across various cities in Europe, rather than having a single host. I had big hopes for Platini when he got the job. Now, I think he's just another Blatter, or possibly even worse.
That would at least have the positive side effect of fixing the retarded seeding system. Giving the host nation(s) the highest seed no matter how bad they are creates a mess - just like the groups this Euro.
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So now when it's over. Wich was the best goal?
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On July 02 2012 11:23 Weson wrote:
So now when it's over. Wich was the best goal?
Ibrahimovich's pseudo bicycle kick against France.
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 13 2012 19:10 Mallidon wrote:
I'm going with Spain as my first pick. They just have everything required to win and such a settled squad.
Dark horses being France and Italy (France either do really crap or get to a final and Italy usually pull off good results when they are least expected).
I can see teams like Portugal and England going out in the QF, Germany probably most likely to be SF. I suppose a lot depends on the draw after the group stages and who wins groups and who is RU though.
My predictions from the other thread, not too shabby. I half expected Portugal to lose to someone daft in the QF, that didn't happen so oh well. When they got there, I actually had a bet on for Ronaldo to score the winner against the Czech (Who were lucky as hell to get to the QF's IMO).
France went out to the eventual winners, I wouldn't say they would be too upset with a QF since half the time they go out in the group stages. Don't think I did too bad with those predictions overall xD
The Final: I wasn't shocked Spain won, was a little shocked about the scoreline. I guess Italy just ran out of steam and ran up against one of the best teams ever.
I am pleased that Torres scored. He's taken a lot of shit, and it's quite deserved in many ways since he aint been finding the net a lot in the last year and a half. If he was lacking confidence (I don't think he ever really was. He was always confident enough to try long shots and was always getting into his usual space), this will no doubt give it back to him.
Good Euros, roll on the World Cup in 2 years 
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On July 02 2012 12:03 Mallidon wrote:
My predictions from the other thread, not too shabby. I half expected Portugal to lose to someone daft in the QF, that didn't happen so oh well. When they got there, I actually had a bet on for Ronaldo to score the winner against the Czech (Who were lucky as hell to get to the QF's IMO).
I don't think Czechs were lucky to get to QF. They might have been lucky to win the group (which I'm sure nobody saw coming), but had Rosicky not been injured in Greece game, I'm sure Czech would have beaten Greece and Poland more comfortably.
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