On June 10 2012 17:03 HwangjaeTerran wrote: In the end I'm quite happy there was a referee making the calls and not the Dutch. I'm not sure if he catched those two handballs that were actually handballs but I wouldn't have awarded a penalty for those anyway. The second one was played in his hand and Poulsen's didn't really matter so it would've made everyone sad. Now if there had been a Dutch player closer than 20m to him it should've been a penalty.
There are people in this thread saying the Oranje played well?? - no, they could've won if RvP or Robben were performing their best but still it would've been a bad performance from the team as a whole.
"If a player's arm is in an unnatural position, for example outstretched or above their head, then a foul should be awarded whether accidental or not."
On June 10 2012 17:03 HwangjaeTerran wrote: In the end I'm quite happy there was a referee making the calls and not the Dutch. I'm not sure if he catched those two handballs that were actually handballs but I wouldn't have awarded a penalty for those anyway. The second one was played in his hand and Poulsen's didn't really matter so it would've made everyone sad. Now if there had been a Dutch player closer than 20m to him it should've been a penalty.
There are people in this thread saying the Oranje played well?? - no, they could've won if RvP or Robben were performing their best but still it would've been a bad performance from the team as a whole.
"If a player's arm is in an unnatural position, for example outstretched or above their head, then a foul should be awarded whether accidental or not."
So according to that, neither were penalties.
Outstretched? o_O
I can't remember exactly but IIRC at least the second one was a clear one
On June 10 2012 17:03 HwangjaeTerran wrote: In the end I'm quite happy there was a referee making the calls and not the Dutch. I'm not sure if he catched those two handballs that were actually handballs but I wouldn't have awarded a penalty for those anyway. The second one was played in his hand and Poulsen's didn't really matter so it would've made everyone sad. Now if there had been a Dutch player closer than 20m to him it should've been a penalty.
There are people in this thread saying the Oranje played well?? - no, they could've won if RvP or Robben were performing their best but still it would've been a bad performance from the team as a whole.
"If a player's arm is in an unnatural position, for example outstretched or above their head, then a foul should be awarded whether accidental or not."
So according to that, neither were penalties.
Uhm, both were outstretched? At least the second one, his arm was stretched to the right. Or do they mean outstretched as in 'reaching'? But that's never accidental... But nevermind now. Guess I'm just salty since my toto said 1-1 . I just hope Portugal wins tomorrow (never thought i'd say something like that).
This is so awesome. ESPN is covering all the games live here in the US. Along with WC qualifiers for CONCACAF, there is a lot of soccer on TV these days :-). They need more regular coverage like this in the states
On June 13 2012 06:50 BluePanther wrote: This is so awesome. ESPN is covering all the games live here in the US. Along with WC qualifiers for CONCACAF, there is a lot of soccer on TV these days :-). They need more regular coverage like this in the states
Having every game On Demand on espn3 is amazing, that's one thing I love about ESPN coverage of football, you can see everything without waking up at 5am and/or missing work.
Because of the misbehaviour of the russian fans, Russia has been fined 120.000€ and got a 6 point penalty in the next euro qualifiers, on probation. That's some strict ruling, imho. But with to the probation, this might be a good way to shut up the hooligans. What do you think?
On June 12 2012 02:12 RedW4rr10r wrote: Question to my german fellows: Is the ZDF-Stream really THIS bad?! Not only (for me at least) the quality sucks hard and it's lagging hardcore! Totally opposite to the ARD-Stream.
If this has already been discussed here, sorry and just ignore me. I just haven't had the time yet to read through all 37 sites (not even first one >.<)
Thanks!
To those who still might refuse to watch the ZDF-Stream: I have had no problems yet watching their stream. Perfect quality and no lag at all!
Hey all. Just wanted to say that I think this EC has been fantastic so far. We have gotten plenty of goals and lots of fairly entertaining matches. Its crazy that at this point we still havnt had a 0-0 draw and that no teams have qualified for the next round just yet.
On June 14 2012 00:28 lefix wrote: Because of the misbehaviour of the russian fans, Russia has been fined 120.000€ and got a 6 point penalty in the next euro qualifiers, on probation. That's some strict ruling, imho. But with to the probation, this might be a good way to shut up the hooligans. What do you think?
They should get better cameras in the stadiums and start fining the hooligans instead. Sadly most hooligans don't rely care that much about their country / team as long as they get to fight. But it's certainly good that they are starting to give high penalties for hooliganism.
By the way it's quite expected that there would be at least some hoolihanism in Poland and Ukraine and especially when it's poland vs Russia you can't expect anything but trouble with heir history. The uefa and FIFA have to take more care in which countries they take for their tournaments and how they will solve these rivalries.
Actually, that was their punishment for the game vs czech republic. there was a video on youtube showing a group of hoolings kicking the shit out of a steward inside the stadium. i don't think there have been any punishments for the russia - poland match, yet
If Netherlands beats Portugal - and Germany beats Denmark we'll have: Germany 3-0 Denmark 1-2 Netherlands 1-2 Portugal 1-2
And in case Denmark wins and Portugal wins, we'll have Germany 2-1 Denmark 2-1 Portugal 2-1 Netherlands 0-3
In case both games draw Germany 2-1-0 Denmark 1-1-1 Portugal 1-1-1 Netherlands 0-1-0
This can easilly become a threeway tie. Or at least a tiebreaker for 2nd place. Is it the winner of the game between the tiebreakers? Is it scored goals? Goal difference (I don't know if that's the english term, but you get my point) I'm afraid Denmark can't use the goals today if we tiebreak against Portugal. Or am I missing something?
On June 14 2012 08:15 Mentalizor wrote: Can anyone explain what happens in a tiebreak?
If Netherlands beats Portugal - and Germany beats Denmark we'll have: Germany 3-0 Denmark 1-2 Netherlands 1-2 Portugal 1-2
And in case Denmark wins and Portugal wins, we'll have Germany 2-1 Denmark 2-1 Portugal 2-1 Netherlands 0-3
In case both games draw Germany 2-1-0 Denmark 1-1-1 Portugal 1-1-1 Netherlands 0-1-0
This can easilly become a threeway tie. Or at least a tiebreaker for 2nd place. Is it the winner of the game between the tiebreakers? Is it scored goals? Goal difference (I don't know if that's the english term, but you get my point) I'm afraid Denmark can't use the goals today if we tiebreak against Portugal. Or am I missing something?
On June 14 2012 00:28 lefix wrote: Because of the misbehaviour of the russian fans, Russia has been fined 120.000€ and got a 6 point penalty in the next euro qualifiers, on probation. That's some strict ruling, imho. But with to the probation, this might be a good way to shut up the hooligans. What do you think?
Would have been better to ban russian "fans" and let the team play. It's a good team after all and now there is almost no way they'll qualify (ok, maybe there is an ok chance, depends on the group they get).
But something needed to be done. No one wants that hooliganism bullshit. And wtf was that "fan march" all about? It was held only to stir trouble.
Ok, with a win against russia in the last game we pass no matter what. But even though we look stronger than I thought we didn't beat neither poland nor czech, so how are we gonna win the russians, lol.