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Goetzinho 23
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany39 Posts
June 09 2012 20:55 GMT
#701
So next Game we can send Holland home after only 2 games HAHAHA :D
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
June 10 2012 08:03 GMT
#702
In the end I'm quite happy there was a referee making the calls and not the Dutch.
I'm not sure if he catched those two handballs that were actually handballs but I wouldn't have awarded a penalty for those anyway. The second one was played in his hand and Poulsen's didn't really matter so it would've made everyone sad. Now if there had been a Dutch player closer than 20m to him it should've been a penalty.

There are people in this thread saying the Oranje played well??
- no, they could've won if RvP or Robben were performing their best but still it would've been a bad performance from the team as a whole.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 08:20:32
June 10 2012 08:20 GMT
#703
On June 10 2012 17:03 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
In the end I'm quite happy there was a referee making the calls and not the Dutch.
I'm not sure if he catched those two handballs that were actually handballs but I wouldn't have awarded a penalty for those anyway. The second one was played in his hand and Poulsen's didn't really matter so it would've made everyone sad. Now if there had been a Dutch player closer than 20m to him it should've been a penalty.

There are people in this thread saying the Oranje played well??
- no, they could've won if RvP or Robben were performing their best but still it would've been a bad performance from the team as a whole.


Really just the D, they were considerably flatter and out of ideas as the game went on offensively as well, and lost the plot after the Danes scored for a bit, but they made chances the bad comes in at not converting. Second half was just Danes being really good at times. I dont think they are getting enough credit really. Kjaar and Agger were really solid aside from the odd chance that really the Dutch should be putting away.

Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
June 10 2012 09:27 GMT
#704
Damn, I can't wait for today's games. Spain - Italy not so much but Republic of Ireland - Croatia might be the best game of the entire tournament.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
June 10 2012 09:44 GMT
#705
Spain - Italy looks great on paper, however I will not be hugely surprised when the match ends with a 0-0 draw.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 09:44:35
June 10 2012 09:44 GMT
#706
On May 02 2012 18:03 Caphe wrote:
... I cant really decide who has the edge between
Netherlands, Germany and Portugal


WHAT NAOUWH ?!? (Denmark beating Netherlands 1-0 )

And, why would you rate Denmark a B? Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Rankings

I know, this is very biased... But the OP just seemed to be ill-informed
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graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
June 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#707
On June 10 2012 18:44 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 18:03 Caphe wrote:
... I cant really decide who has the edge between
Netherlands, Germany and Portugal


WHAT NAOUWH ?!? (Denmark beating Netherlands 1-0 )

And, why would you rate Denmark a B? Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Rankings

I know, this is very biased... But the OP just seemed to be ill-informed


you realize he wrote that before the match ?! u even misquoted him, 'never count out denmark' in the next sentence.. way to post, realy.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 10:28:57
June 10 2012 10:18 GMT
#708
On June 10 2012 18:50 graan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 18:44 Mentalizor wrote:
On May 02 2012 18:03 Caphe wrote:
... I cant really decide who has the edge between
Netherlands, Germany and Portugal


WHAT NAOUWH ?!? (Denmark beating Netherlands 1-0 )

And, why would you rate Denmark a B? Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Rankings

I know, this is very biased... But the OP just seemed to be ill-informed


you realize he wrote that before the match ?! u even misquoted him, 'never count out denmark' in the next sentence.. way to post, realy.


I don't judge him based on Denmark winning... I'm just happy we did... I even pointed out my bias myself.
But my question still stands... Regarding the FIFA World Rankings, why would you put Denmark (who's currently #9... #6 if you don't count the south american teams) as a b-list team?

My point was split in 2 - the first being Netherlands, Germany and Portugal being favorites - so I was just excited about Denmark actually proving people wrong.

The second part was wondering, how come he had Denmark as a b-list team, when they're (according to FIFA) the 9th best team in the world?
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
June 10 2012 10:35 GMT
#709
the fifa elo is purly based on the last opponents you played, its biased - look at uruguay.

Sure your right the ranking given from a guy whom the op quoted is arguable - placing portugal two levels over denmark is imo realy wrong, you even placed first in the qualifiers over them, denmark is totaly underrated which should be a realy good thing for you, would be very glad if you advanced with germany in group b, then even semi seems possible against group a teams ( im not realy that impressed with russia, good play vs very bad opponent )
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
June 10 2012 10:39 GMT
#710
On June 10 2012 17:03 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
In the end I'm quite happy there was a referee making the calls and not the Dutch.
I'm not sure if he catched those two handballs that were actually handballs but I wouldn't have awarded a penalty for those anyway. The second one was played in his hand and Poulsen's didn't really matter so it would've made everyone sad. Now if there had been a Dutch player closer than 20m to him it should've been a penalty.

There are people in this thread saying the Oranje played well??
- no, they could've won if RvP or Robben were performing their best but still it would've been a bad performance from the team as a whole.


To be fair - from a danish point of view. Those two were handballs - and had I been from Holland I'd be furious to not get a single penalty when two were actually commited - however, you're right. One was ball-to-hand (rather than hand-to-ball), which means he didn't really "do" it. And the other one was in a situation the defender (Poulsen) was nowhere near a dutch player.

And tbh... Denmark wasn't the better team for 70minutes. RvP, Robben and Schneider were constant threats. The only thing keeping us in (the first 70 minutes) were solid defense, great goalkeeper, stoicism and a bit of luck (no penalties and RvP missing his 1v1 with the keeper).

Don't know what happened though. Straight after the 70-minute-mark, Holland just started playing straight up bad (no offense). Starting losing balls constantly. Just kicking the ball in random directions - most of the times straight into the feet of a danish player. Denmark not being able to punish it however was a bit sad. But with Rommedahl and Eriksen being either substituted - or tired we didn't have enough speed to press the issue.


On another note... Looking forward to the games today
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
June 10 2012 10:42 GMT
#711
On June 10 2012 19:35 graan wrote:
the fifa elo is purly based on the last opponents you played, its biased - look at uruguay.

Sure your right the ranking given from a guy whom the op quoted is arguable - placing portugal two levels over denmark is imo realy wrong, you even placed first in the qualifiers over them, denmark is totaly underrated which should be a realy good thing for you, would be very glad if you advanced with germany in group b, then even semi seems possible against group a teams ( im not realy that impressed with russia, good play vs very bad opponent )


You're right. Group A seems to have an average skill level that is just subpar. I really like the danish coach. He's usually so honest and non-hyping, but he actually said, that if Denmark advanced from Grp B, we would basicly win the tournament -.-

Do we know who we'll play if we advance? Are the grp-seeding-thingies known? (Like A1 v B2, A2 v B1, C1 v D2, C2 v D1 or something) ?
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
June 10 2012 10:45 GMT
#712
On June 10 2012 19:42 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 19:35 graan wrote:
the fifa elo is purly based on the last opponents you played, its biased - look at uruguay.

Sure your right the ranking given from a guy whom the op quoted is arguable - placing portugal two levels over denmark is imo realy wrong, you even placed first in the qualifiers over them, denmark is totaly underrated which should be a realy good thing for you, would be very glad if you advanced with germany in group b, then even semi seems possible against group a teams ( im not realy that impressed with russia, good play vs very bad opponent )


You're right. Group A seems to have an average skill level that is just subpar. I really like the danish coach. He's usually so honest and non-hyping, but he actually said, that if Denmark advanced from Grp B, we would basicly win the tournament -.-

Do we know who we'll play if we advance? Are the grp-seeding-thingies known? (Like A1 v B2, A2 v B1, C1 v D2, C2 v D1 or something) ?


yeah thats the way its going down, winner of group b dodges winner of c in the semis.
lefix
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1082 Posts
June 10 2012 11:04 GMT
#713
Exactly, Group B winner is "most likely" to play vs Poland/Czech/Greece while Group B runner up would face Russia.
Winning Group B would also mean you cannot face Spain until the finals, assuming Spain wins their group, too.
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Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
June 10 2012 11:05 GMT
#714
On June 10 2012 19:45 graan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 19:42 Mentalizor wrote:
On June 10 2012 19:35 graan wrote:
the fifa elo is purly based on the last opponents you played, its biased - look at uruguay.

Sure your right the ranking given from a guy whom the op quoted is arguable - placing portugal two levels over denmark is imo realy wrong, you even placed first in the qualifiers over them, denmark is totaly underrated which should be a realy good thing for you, would be very glad if you advanced with germany in group b, then even semi seems possible against group a teams ( im not realy that impressed with russia, good play vs very bad opponent )


You're right. Group A seems to have an average skill level that is just subpar. I really like the danish coach. He's usually so honest and non-hyping, but he actually said, that if Denmark advanced from Grp B, we would basicly win the tournament -.-

Do we know who we'll play if we advance? Are the grp-seeding-thingies known? (Like A1 v B2, A2 v B1, C1 v D2, C2 v D1 or something) ?


yeah thats the way its going down, winner of group b dodges winner of c in the semis.


Just going from the "dont-count-out-anybody" to the opposite camp... Shouldn't we pretty much expect the winner of B in the finals against the winner of C
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
mahkan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States153 Posts
June 10 2012 11:24 GMT
#715
The Italy and Spain match should be interesting.
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
June 10 2012 11:41 GMT
#716
On June 10 2012 17:03 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
In the end I'm quite happy there was a referee making the calls and not the Dutch.
I'm not sure if he catched those two handballs that were actually handballs but I wouldn't have awarded a penalty for those anyway. The second one was played in his hand and Poulsen's didn't really matter so it would've made everyone sad. Now if there had been a Dutch player closer than 20m to him it should've been a penalty.

There are people in this thread saying the Oranje played well??
- no, they could've won if RvP or Robben were performing their best but still it would've been a bad performance from the team as a whole.


Thank god you aren't a referee -_- The dutch didn't play well (especially Robben) but at least one of the two clear handballs should have been a penalty.. -_-
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 10 2012 11:58 GMT
#717
On June 10 2012 17:03 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
In the end I'm quite happy there was a referee making the calls and not the Dutch.
I'm not sure if he catched those two handballs that were actually handballs but I wouldn't have awarded a penalty for those anyway. The second one was played in his hand and Poulsen's didn't really matter so it would've made everyone sad. Now if there had been a Dutch player closer than 20m to him it should've been a penalty.

There are people in this thread saying the Oranje played well??
- no, they could've won if RvP or Robben were performing their best but still it would've been a bad performance from the team as a whole.

"If a player's arm is in an unnatural position, for example outstretched or above their head, then a foul should be awarded whether accidental or not."
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
June 10 2012 12:31 GMT
#718
On June 10 2012 20:41 Neelia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 17:03 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
In the end I'm quite happy there was a referee making the calls and not the Dutch.
I'm not sure if he catched those two handballs that were actually handballs but I wouldn't have awarded a penalty for those anyway. The second one was played in his hand and Poulsen's didn't really matter so it would've made everyone sad. Now if there had been a Dutch player closer than 20m to him it should've been a penalty.

There are people in this thread saying the Oranje played well??
- no, they could've won if RvP or Robben were performing their best but still it would've been a bad performance from the team as a whole.


Thank god you aren't a referee -_- The dutch didn't play well (especially Robben) but at least one of the two clear handballs should have been a penalty.. -_-

The second one was a pretty clear penalty. Though given how Netherlands played they probably would have missed it.
BlueLobster
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore205 Posts
June 10 2012 16:11 GMT
#719
any livestream to watch?
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
June 10 2012 16:33 GMT
#720
On June 11 2012 01:11 BlueLobster wrote:
any livestream to watch?


plenty

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