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don_kyuhote
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sharkie
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babishh
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sc4k
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
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Mentalizor
Denmark1596 Posts
On June 17 2012 09:12 ZapRoffo wrote: Here are all the tiebreak scenarios: For case 1 above, three teams at 3 points: If Netherlands beats Portugal by 2 goals or more, Netherlands gets the spot (they will have best GD in games among the 3). If Netherlands beats Portugal by 1 goal, Portugal gets the spot (they will have the most goals scored in games among the 3). Denmark can't get the spot if they lose. For case 2, three teams at 6 points: If Denmark beats Germany by 2 goals or more, order is 1. Denmark, 2. Portugal (by GD in games among 3) If Denmark beats Germany 1-0, order is 1. Portugal 2. Denmark (by Goals scored in games among 3, then Portugal head to head over Den.) If Denmark beats Germany 2-1, order is 1. Denmark 2. Portugal (by goals scored in games among the 3) If Denmark beats Germany 3-2 or higher 1 goal win, order is 1. Denmark 2. Germany (by goals scored in games among the 3, then Germany over Port. head to head) For case 3, Portugal and Denmark tied at 4 points, Portugal gets the spot by winning head to head. If Germany and Portugal tie at 6, order is 1. Germany 2. Portugal If Germany and Denmark tie at 6, order is 1. Denmark 2. Germany. What each team needs to advance: Netherlands: Win by 2+ goals and Germany beats Denmark Denmark: Win, or draw and Netherlands beats Portugal Portugal: Win as long as Denmark doesn't beat Germany by 3-2 or higher 1 goal margin, Draw and Denmark draw or loss, or lose by 1 and Germany beats Denmark Germany: Win, Draw, lose 3-2 or higher 1 goal margin, or any loss if Portugal doesn't win Thanks a ton  This actually explained all the scenarios Turns out it wasn't relevant, but still thanks for the nice explanation | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6322 Posts
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Brow23
Germany105 Posts
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
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Copymizer
Denmark2108 Posts
On June 18 2012 04:41 FliedLice wrote: Am I the only one who's seriously annoyed by that song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTeNictJxMw Agree. I think Waving flag is the best world championship song that's been so far. It really has a a strong message that gets tears in my eyes :') | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
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Epx
Switzerland209 Posts
On June 19 2012 04:43 Tommylew wrote: can I ask, the way English media is going on about Rooney being unleashedy... how worried are other teams? Very. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On June 18 2012 16:31 Brow23 wrote: Germany is the only team that finishes the grp-stage with 9pts (3-0) No need to keep playing, if you get 9 points, you get the EuroCup automatically. | ||
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Epx
Switzerland209 Posts
On June 19 2012 08:36 xN.07)MaK wrote: No need to keep playing, if you get 9 points, you get the EuroCup automatically. Is that the Spanish style of thinking? So be glad you didn't get 9 points, lmao. | ||
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Tazza
Korea (South)1678 Posts
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alderamin
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The system you propose is what most people in the Netherlands wanted and that's why the pressure on the team was so big. But apparently players didn't want to play that way. VPersie and Sneijder both want the free role. And apparently the same with Robben. Sneijder as a deep midfielder would have to do a lot of defending. He just doesn't want to do that. And VPersie would have to have to defend the controlling midfielder of the opposing team and he is used to being a striker. I would support such a system. But it was never practiced and key players opposed it. Many key players also don't like Huntelaar. He has a different personality than most football stars and he isn't a complete player and he lacks skill in obvious areas compared to Sneijder and vPersie. And apparently Huntelaar also was a pain in the ass because he wasn't playing. Some players wanted him to leave. I have always supported Sneijder as a more deep playing midfielder. He doesn't come into the box. That's not his thing. He never tries to come up real close to the striker. He is best in the counter giving a perfect pass over relatively long distance. People here are now starting to deny how stacked they are and claim Portugal's lesser player are much better than ours. I don't believe this is really true. I believe this was both a tactical and a teamspirit failure. Now which one caused the other I don't know, but they are connected. Really like France 2 years ago. | ||
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Tazza
Korea (South)1678 Posts
On June 19 2012 11:09 alderamin wrote: You are exactly right. But because they played that way at the WC as well, 6-0-4 (they in fact did and it didn't look pretty), they stuck to that system. The system you propose is what most people in the Netherlands wanted and that's why the pressure on the team was so big. But apparently players didn't want to play that way. VPersie and Sneijder both want the free role. And apparently the same with Robben. Sneijder as a deep midfielder would have to do a lot of defending. He just doesn't want to do that. And VPersie would have to have to defend the controlling midfielder of the opposing team and he is used to being a striker. I would support such a system. But it was never practiced and key players opposed it. Many key players also don't like Huntelaar. He has a different personality than most football stars and he isn't a complete player and he lacks skill in obvious areas compared to Sneijder and vPersie. And apparently Huntelaar also was a pain in the ass because he wasn't playing. Some players wanted him to leave. I have always supported Sneijder as a more deep playing midfielder. He doesn't come into the box. That's not his thing. He never tries to come up real close to the striker. He is best in the counter giving a perfect pass over relatively long distance. People here are now starting to deny how stacked they are and claim Portugal's lesser player are much better than ours. I don't believe this is really true. I believe this was both a tactical and a teamspirit failure. Now which one caused the other I don't know, but they are connected. Really like France 2 years ago. Yeah, I actually think the run that Netherlands had at 2010 might have been bad for the future of dutch football. they had a great run, and almost beat spain, but really, the only noteworthy team they beat was brazil. and that brazil team was pretty bad compared to other brazil teams, and brazil got that red card. Against spain, they literally mugged the spanish players. I thought there should have been some red cards. if the manager knew this, then he should have implemented a different system. screw what the players want, this isn't club football where you can get a transfer, stamp your authority and play the formation you think is right. and i don't think sneijder would have had to track back much, when de jong can just play the midfield destroyer role. but yeah, i totally agree, this team had as much talent as any team in the world, and portugal only have ronaldo. nani's decent, but not world class, and there is el loco pepe. one thing though, how did the dutch manage to score so many goals in qualifying and look so dominant, but fail so horribly in the tournament? was it the same formation and system? | ||
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don_kyuhote
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On June 19 2012 11:38 Tazza wrote: one thing though, how did the dutch manage to score so many goals in qualifying and look so dominant, but fail so horribly in the tournament? was it the same formation and system? Strength of opponents. San Marino, Finland, Moldova, Hungary are not Germany Portugal Denmark. | ||
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