[TSL] Ro32 Day 4 Recap and Interviews - Page 25

On March 29 2011 19:48 Alpina wrote:


Yeah I agree.

IdrA isn't stupid, he rages just because of game balance. I mean when you have whole map under your control, excellent economy, maxed out 1.5 faster than toss and then loose because you just feel hopeless in late game of this match up. That's why he rages, and that isn't fine but it is understandable. So I don't know why cruncher is being a dick with all his bm, doesn't he understand why IdrA bms?

It's just like you play on ladder ZvP and someone kills your whole army with single vortex then you feel seriously dissapointed and you don't gg and leave the game. Now imagine protoss player says for me after the game: "why no gg noob?". That's just straight up bm and disrespect to other player.

On March 30 2011 06:14 Sc2ttyl wrote:
You all who like cruncher are sadly pathetic. IdrA has so much more talent it is hard for me to believe that you actually think cruncher deserved to move on. Just because Cruncher can abuse things as protoss does not make him good, which is why IdrA deserves to rage. I dont think that you should have to say GG to someone you know you are better than, but just abuses the game. It is like when the game first came out and everyone 5 rax reaperd... are those players better than you? Take a look at IdrA and Artosis's videos about why 2-3 base protoss turtle is imbalanced. The only reason IdrA took game two was because of the map size and distance between expansions. That gave him plenty of room to drop. On shakuras there is very little room and proper splitting of an army and a few cannons easily holds drops. For real though, Chruncher L2P please before you talk bad about IdrA.

EDIT:

I do realize that the last game Cruncher deserved to win. That was not imba it was just sneaky play that IdrA didnt prepare for.

On March 30 2011 09:06 growl wrote:
The difference between CrunCher's and IdrA's interviews was that one was post-game, the other was pre-game. CrunCher had absolutely none of this attitude pre-game, because he was afraid he would be a laughing-stock if he lost. IdrA just doesn't care, which makes me respect IdrA a hell of a lot more. It's a lot safer (and more cowardly) to be arrogant and insulting right after a win than before a match... I think CrunCher would have gotten a lot more respect had he been honest but humble in his post-game interview, like the Koreans are with IdrA.

On March 30 2011 03:52 JackDino wrote:

No, the difference is, IdrA doesn't bm you to make you rage or feel bad, he's just venting his anger without thinking about that. Cruncher is just bming for the sake of making others rage.
While I did think the smiley @ the end of that game was great, his interview is just bragging about how he thinks he made idra rage and it's just pathetic overall, it's nothing to be proud of.

On March 30 2011 09:32 xbankx wrote:Your logic makes no sense. Cruncher give an humble pregame interview despite not liking Idra(he didn't know that idra is gonna bash him). Idra instead bashed him in his pregame interview calling him a walkover. Then Idra continue to bm him while they play. I mean comon how does Idra fans twist Idra's BM into bravery. This is getting hilarious. The thing is when you talk the talk, you better walk the walk. Idra talked the talked but got rolled.

On March 30 2011 09:35 white_horse wrote:
cruncher has gained my respect after his honest interview - people like idra need to be called out.

It seriously boggles my mind when I look at the SC2 community and see that there are people who are fans of Idra. How can you support someone with absolutely no sportsmanship and no class? If you are good enough to call yourself a "professional" at whatever you are doing, doesn't it mean that you should act professionally and maturely?

If SC2 wants to become even bigger than it already is, then the players should reflect the professionalism that is representative of e-sports and SC2, just like players in other sports like basketball or football should act. It only takes one person like Idra for outsiders to think that SC2 players are a bunch of immature and arrogant gamer nerds, which is obviously not true.

On March 30 2011 10:11 growl wrote:

I don't approve of IdrA's bm, and I never really have. I don't really care to be frank, but the reason I don't despise it is that he himself doesn't really give it much thought and that he seems to be doing it more to hype up matches than out of any real ill will or thought.
While CrunCher is doing a similar thing, CrunCher's kicking IdrA when he's down (the ONE time that he actually managed to beat IdrA, I mean judging from their record on ladder and the Justin.tv tourny that doesn't seem to have happened too often) and I hate people that do that. If you're going to insult someone, you might as well BM straight to their face (where they can make you look foolish with a good rebuttal or a straight up win, kinda like the BM Combat-Ex does) or in a pre-match hype interview (because the community loves that, and it's not like it would embarrass the underdog, but rather charge them up. Anyone who takes pre-game talk seriously in any sport or game is an idiot). While these forms of BM are really stupid, they're not really despicable in the same way as I found this.
I understand that CrunCher wanted to use his spotlight in the interview to get back at IdrA, but imo it's enough to acknowledge that the other guy was an ass and state that you're the better person and the better player, but anything more makes you look like the biggest jackass ever. I guess in some ways, it's similar to IdrA BM in that he's hyping up the next match between the two, but if he's even half serious he comes off a lot worse than IdrA in my book, just cause of where and when he's saying shit.

On March 30 2011 10:25 xbankx wrote:


Why does Cruncher need to give respect to Idra when Idra clearly showed no respect to him. If someone just spit on your face and called you trash/whore and then tripped and fell down. Are you gonna hold out your hand and help him up? Look there is a difference between "friendly" BM in pregame and just straight up insulting the other player. I have no problem with MC's type of BM because he says stuff like "lol my next round opponent should complain to admin because he has to face me next." He ever insult the other player directly. But calling player a cheeser and a walkover is not a "friendly" hype BM. It is just insulting whether it is pregame or postgame. The main problem I have with Idra fans that they try to somehow justify Idra's actions by saying he is being truthful and outspoken and just emotional. While when others do it back to him, it is some atrocity because he is not as known as Idra. No matter how much you are known or not known, inside a starcraft game the two will just be players and the better player will win. No one ever said what Cruncher said is not BM. Most Cruncher fans just felt Idra got what is coming to him. While Idra fans is trying to spin, Idra's BM into bravery and honesty. It is just laughible with the double standard. I always follow the saying "Do to others as you would like them to do to you." If idra hAS been BMing people since scbw, he will one day get what was coming to him. When he BMs someone pregame and loses, and they BM back and make Idra look like an idiot.