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Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
February 10 2010 17:16 GMT
#61
Seems very appropriate
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LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
February 10 2010 17:22 GMT
#62
The mods on this site are some of the most reasonable, fair-minded, and balanced mods I have ever come across on the internet. My hats off to you sirs.
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baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
February 10 2010 17:23 GMT
#63
On February 11 2010 01:43 Armathai wrote:
Well, I support the TL decision, but I find it to be picking a needle from a haystack again. Are you going to keep track of all players messenger/bnet/outside other forums activities for the duration of the tourny...=?

so if police catch one thief, they should not punish him because they cannot catch all other thief?

-_-
des
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States507 Posts
February 10 2010 18:29 GMT
#64
should be banned from future tsls
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PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
February 10 2010 18:32 GMT
#65
On February 11 2010 03:29 des wrote:
should be banned from future tsls


lol dont be ridiculous
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viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
February 10 2010 20:04 GMT
#66
Sounds good. Poor guy let his emotions get the better of him but the bottom line is in order to compete in this you have to play by the rules. I support this~
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
February 10 2010 20:08 GMT
#67
Hmmm someone raised a good question WHAT does happen to players after they've played games and are now back to practicing. Isn't it obv that they won if they are then asking their friends to mu and bo for a certain race signalling that they might havr advanced? But then its not easy to keep track of that for sure and I guess tarson posting on a whole site deserves that punishment whereas say one guy would reveal it to 4 others so its not that bad. Damn I lost my claim......
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 20:21:48
February 10 2010 20:20 GMT
#68
big difference between leaking the results on the forum and maybe telling ur friend/mom/girlfriend/boyfriend right after the game about it. I don't know how the admins feel about the practice issue, but that isn't really a big deal, at least compared to leaking results to an entire forum

the difference is how it affects viewership and perception of the tsl as a serious e-sports competition
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
February 10 2010 20:55 GMT
#69
On February 11 2010 02:23 baller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 01:43 Armathai wrote:
Well, I support the TL decision, but I find it to be picking a needle from a haystack again. Are you going to keep track of all players messenger/bnet/outside other forums activities for the duration of the tourny...=?

so if police catch one thief, they should not punish him because they cannot catch all other thief?

-_-


this sounds more wise for some reason because of the incorrect grammar
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 10 2010 21:07 GMT
#70
I think the biggest issue might be that Tarson told people (on a popular forum) "don't watch the games." That is really the opposite of what you want to do for a televised match where the sponsors are looking to maximize viewership.
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
February 10 2010 21:09 GMT
#71
In order for the TSL to grow and be better next time around (or for there to be a next time) it must maintain integrity.

I'm glad you guys were leniant and only took half of his money and I think it's a fair compromise. Plus the games were fun to watch anyways so I don't think many people avoided watching the broadcast because of what tarson said.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
February 10 2010 21:29 GMT
#72
You enter a tournament run by sponsorship and then post in a forum
"I advise you to not watch my games."
That is incredibly stupid and disrespectful to his opponent and the whole tournament.

He is VERY LUCKY to get half his money.
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
February 10 2010 21:32 GMT
#73
The punishment fits the crime. It's a fore-warning for anyone else who might want to do this. Though, if I was him I'd probably vent to someone, but I'd hope they could keep it to themselves and wouldn't post it on a forum for everyone and their mother's to see.
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ScarPe
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany392 Posts
February 10 2010 21:48 GMT
#74
Mondi will win 3:1 next game!!1111

(ow fuck, now my money is gone!)
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Pure.Freedom
Profile Joined January 2010
United States114 Posts
February 10 2010 22:00 GMT
#75
Im glad there is some punishment for this, and also that the punishment isn't all of his winnings. Also, nice move donating the remainder to charity... perhaps it could go to Haiti? Theres a ton of great charities out there im sure TL will find one deserving.
What you need to do is be thankful for the life you got, you know what im sayin? ... stop lookin at what you ain't got ... start bein thankful for what you do got.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 10 2010 22:03 GMT
#76
donate to haiti please
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 22:11:51
February 10 2010 22:08 GMT
#77
wow what is this... i cant believe what i am seeing here. i was eagerly awaiting the forthcoming matches but after this theres no way im gonna tune in, just out of disrespect for this decision. stealing 125$ of the money he won fairly with his own hands after he put so much effort into laddering and qualifying is insane.

regardless of what youd say i also doubt that youd have done the same to idra, nony or inc had they been in this situation.

For those that feel the penalty is still too harsh, remember that the TSL can only exist if results are not leaked by players.
what bs. to say something like this about an event of this size and after this little words from tarson really defies reality.
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 22:20:16
February 10 2010 22:17 GMT
#78
On February 11 2010 07:08 enzym wrote:
wow what is this... i cant believe what i am seeing here. i was eagerly awaiting the forthcoming matches but after this theres no way im gonna tune in, just out of disrespect for this decision. stealing 125$ of the money he won fairly with his own hands after he put so much effort into laddering and qualifying is insane.

regardless of what youd say i also doubt that youd have done the same to idra, nony or inc had they been in this situation.

Show nested quote +
For those that feel the penalty is still too harsh, remember that the TSL can only exist if results are not leaked by players.
what bs. to say something like this about an event of this size and after this little words from tarson really defies reality.

Sign up -> swear to obey rules -> disobey rules -> punishment -> how is it unfair? Do you know that the tournament hosts don't owe the players anything if they don't follow the rules, the contract they signed? If anything, it's a shocker he gets to keep any prize money. Too lenient imo.

EDIT and of course the rules are the same for everyone, don't know what kind of speculation that is. What evidence do you have for that claim? If anything, TL has shown that it will punish even known names like Yosh and F91 accordingly if necessary.
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AtomicReaction
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada57 Posts
February 10 2010 22:17 GMT
#79
On February 11 2010 07:08 enzym wrote:
wow what is this... i cant believe what i am seeing here. i was eagerly awaiting the forthcoming matches but after this theres no way im gonna tune in, just out of disrespect for this decision. stealing 125$ of the money he won fairly with his own hands after he put so much effort into laddering and qualifying is insane.

regardless of what youd say i also doubt that youd have done the same to idra, nony or inc had they been in this situation.

Show nested quote +
For those that feel the penalty is still too harsh, remember that the TSL can only exist if results are not leaked by players.
what bs. to say something like this about an event of this size and after this little words from tarson really defies reality.


Are you soft in the head? Not only did he spoil his matches (Unless gratuitous rage and cursing is how they celebrate victory in Poland) he blatantly told people not to watch.

Do you understand the concept of sponsorship? Sponsors pay people to run events so that the viewership will -increase-. If the outcome of a match is known, and people are told not to watch, viewership -decreases-. Following this logic, the sponsor would not like this, and would maybe not sponsor an event in the future.

They even say in the post that they did this to make sure people understand the severity of the offense. Jesus, put something on the internet and you are guaranteed to find some idiot who wants to whine about it.
Usurper
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Macedonia283 Posts
February 10 2010 22:22 GMT
#80
On February 10 2010 16:38 MorroW wrote:
to charity? screw charity, make a small tsl competition like before, guessing the bracket or best commentary etc
the little money we actually have in the sc scene shouldnt just be given away o,o



Charity is overrated.
I love humanity. It is people that i can't stand.
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