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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 10 2010 12:24 GMT
#41
Totally support the decision... it probably ruined the games for quite a few Polish players and TSL needs to send that message.
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
February 10 2010 12:29 GMT
#42
On February 10 2010 21:00 StylishVODs wrote:
where are u daze


on my way ! =) cya in 5
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
February 10 2010 14:26 GMT
#43
I always wondered how tough players are in not revealing results. Imagine 30 friends messaging you and asking simply how the games went. For example it must be really hard to stay calm when you lost against 5 pool/2 gate/BBS in last game of BO5.

I remember that the day/day before Idra vs Nony broadcast was going to happen, Idra came to TSL channel. He said the games was already played and, and seemed to be in good mood (as far as you tell from chatting). Even though he said absolutely nothing about the games itself, it was pretty obvious he won the series (I mean had he lost he probably wouldn't have come to channel and be all chatty, right).
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 10 2010 14:35 GMT
#44
Really well-handled imo, gj guys.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
February 10 2010 14:40 GMT
#45
Lol, taking his money.... Ridiculous.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 15:53:57
February 10 2010 14:52 GMT
#46
On February 10 2010 17:52 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 16:38 MorroW wrote:
to charity? screw charity, make a small tsl competition like before, guessing the bracket or best commentary etc
the little money we actually have in the sc scene shouldnt just be given away o,o


I'm just glad that not everyone thinks like you do.

what?
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10764 Posts
February 10 2010 14:52 GMT
#47
A simple warning with concrete explanation of the punishment for such actions in the future for everyone would have been enough?...

Seems hard to me.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
February 10 2010 14:53 GMT
#48
On February 10 2010 23:40 Djzapz wrote:
Lol, taking his money.... Ridiculous.


Read the post entirely.

A fair punishment, in my eyes. TL was very professional about it all.
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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
February 10 2010 15:02 GMT
#49
On February 10 2010 23:26 ondik wrote:
I always wondered how tough players are in not revealing results. Imagine 30 friends messaging you and asking simply how the games went. For example it must be really hard to stay calm when you lost against 5 pool/2 gate/BBS in last game of BO5.

I remember that the day/day before Idra vs Nony broadcast was going to happen, Idra came to TSL channel. He said the games was already played and, and seemed to be in good mood (as far as you tell from chatting). Even though he said absolutely nothing about the games itself, it was pretty obvious he won the series (I mean had he lost he probably wouldn't have come to channel and be all chatty, right).


This. While I agree with the punishment, where is the line drawn?
spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
February 10 2010 15:18 GMT
#50
The line is drawn when players enter the tournament with full knowledge of the potential consequences should they breach rules. TL was well within their rights to remove the prize money completely, but the compromise was sensible. Commendable decision TL.
#1 Eric Marienthal fanboy. Dropped engineering for this >.<
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 15:32:13
February 10 2010 15:30 GMT
#51
On February 10 2010 23:40 Djzapz wrote:
Lol, taking his money.... Ridiculous.

his money?

On February 11 2010 00:18 spydR wrote:
The line is drawn when players enter the tournament with full knowledge of the potential consequences should they breach rules. TL was well within their rights to remove the prize money completely, but the compromise was sensible. Commendable decision TL.


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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
February 10 2010 15:39 GMT
#52
Yeah he did miss it.

Normally the line for such things is crossed only when the player states it explicitly i.e. "the result of the match is 3-2".

This time the line is drawn for hinting the result in an obvious manner on a forum post i.e. "don't watch the game %&#¤%".

What if the player hints it in vent? or irc? etc....

Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
February 10 2010 15:39 GMT
#53
On February 10 2010 20:24 niteReloaded wrote:
I was kind of sad to read this, especially since $125 means a lot more to a Polish guy than a guy from USA for example.


LOL? Poland isn't exactly a pigsty. -_-

Here's what a Polish person thinks:
On February 10 2010 21:22 ZlyKiss wrote:
125$ isnt an astronomical sum of money and turning this burst of bad emotions to charity is a good move.


If you can afford to pay for internet, then 125 dollars shouldn't be too big of a deal.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 10 2010 15:46 GMT
#54
On February 10 2010 23:26 ondik wrote:
I always wondered how tough players are in not revealing results. Imagine 30 friends messaging you and asking simply how the games went. For example it must be really hard to stay calm when you lost against 5 pool/2 gate/BBS in last game of BO5.

I remember that the day/day before Idra vs Nony broadcast was going to happen, Idra came to TSL channel. He said the games was already played and, and seemed to be in good mood (as far as you tell from chatting). Even though he said absolutely nothing about the games itself, it was pretty obvious he won the series (I mean had he lost he probably wouldn't have come to channel and be all chatty, right).

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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 16:15:24
February 10 2010 15:57 GMT
#55
The real line should be that the players should not refer to the matches at all - so there's no ambiguity.

But then the player can still talk about their own mood, etc, and let others infer. That's why judgement is needed.

Oh, and it's not his money unless he fulfills his part of the job, which he didn't. He isn't automatically entitled to the money, it's given to him from tl when he wins and follows the rules.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
ErOs_HalO
Profile Joined January 2010
United States167 Posts
February 10 2010 15:59 GMT
#56
Dang, I'm actually surprised leaks aren't happening more often :X
Pretty imaginitive, huh?
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
February 10 2010 16:43 GMT
#57
Well, I support the TL decision, but I find it to be picking a needle from a haystack again. Are you going to keep track of all players messenger/bnet/outside other forums activities for the duration of the tourny...=?

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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
February 10 2010 16:51 GMT
#58
On February 10 2010 23:40 Djzapz wrote:
Lol, taking his money.... Ridiculous.

Players were informed prior to the TSL that any spoilers would result in possible forfeiture of their prize money.

...
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 17:00:19
February 10 2010 16:53 GMT
#59
Good result. He's lucky he didn't lose it all. Spoiling is one thing, but telling people 'not to watch the games' is terrible. Really bad.

Nice lenient decision by TL

On February 11 2010 01:43 Armathai wrote:
Well, I support the TL decision, but I find it to be picking a needle from a haystack again. Are you going to keep track of all players messenger/bnet/outside other forums activities for the duration of the tourny...=?

This sort of point came up with the ladder abuse scandals. Just because you potentially can't catch everyone doesn't mean you shouldn't punish people you do catch. And I'm sure they're doing everything humanly possible to enforce the rules - after all the effort they go to why wouldn't they?
Secondly that's an awfully mixed metaphor.
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bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
February 10 2010 17:01 GMT
#60
He disobeyed the rules. In some circumstances he wouldn't be entitled to anything because he broke his contract.

This is TL being generous.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
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