[TSL] IdrA predicts 3-0 - Page 9
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
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PiePie
United States248 Posts
On February 11 2010 07:32 Mandalor wrote: It's funny. A year ago I was thinking that the tl.net community as a whole was exceptionally smart and had a great sense of humor. While this is still true for pretty much every established poster/staff and like 20% of the other posters, this has changed a lot in the last few months and every Idra-interview shows that very clearly. He doesn't seem sarcastic, he is. Sure, he's confident (who wouldn't be in his position), but in every single interview I've heard/read of him, he just had an awesome sense of humor and that's it. You're (and I'm just using your post as an example of like 50% of all the responses in this thread and every idra-interview ever) just not getting it. No, he doesn't. First of all who are you to tell him what to do and what to say? That's a lot more cocky and bm than everything Idra has ever said lol. And there's not a hint of bm, there's a buttload of bm and that's probably because Idra and Nony get along rather well and tease each other. Also Idra probably wants to entertain and he likes to provoke people like you. So you actually like the standard pro-gamer interview that I could do on behalf of them because it's absolutely clear what they say? Or the good old Mondragon-interviews where he aaaaalways says he's the underdog no matter how shitty his opponent is? Seriously? Speaking of money... You know how valuable an experience like this is? When you and idra graduate from university and apply for the same job, who do you think gets picked? The one guy in a hundred thousands of people with a scholarship or the one unique guy that made a living off of something pretty much no american has ever done in a country where literally noone speaks his language? Here's a hint: It's not you. And I'm just speaking of the money here. The life experience you gain there for yourself probably weighs a ton more than anything else. Also provoking people is never good, read the other interviews, are they at all provoking in ANY way to anyone? I'm sure playing 12 hours a day eating for one or two and then sleeping the rest is a great experience of life in Korea right /sarcasm. Let's be honest here, the progamer's life is probably not a healthy one. At least if you are going to spend 12 hours a day get on the A team. Look I dont admire people because they try and fail. I admire people that Try and succeed. No one cares about some kid from a poor country who tries to come to america for a new life, ends up doing drugs and getting arrested. People care about the person who came and made something of themselves, became a someone. He put in the effort, I admire that. Now I want to see something. Now Idra isn't THAT fail, im simply stating why i dont admire him, its not like i HATE HIM or anything. If asked I probably wouldnt mind getting lunch with him or something but It doesnt mean Im gonna feel the same if granted a lunch with Jaedong, Flash (I can name all the names u already know blah blah). Also being a second rate gamer in Korea and when u try to get a SERIOUS job isnt gonna do you ANY good. Also not many people get fellowships... maybe about 5% of the population..lol.. and not all of them are from notable schools. my fellowship is in BME which Georgia Tech is the number 2 institution in. But fuck me why does it matter. I'm just stating that the 10% of the population which we consider to be "sucessful" at least with money probably were NOT second rate gamers or even gamers at all ( HIGHLY doubt the people living in the golf club subdivisions played video games at all) I mean look at Boxer's life winnings, thats about maybe added together one years income for a doctor or lawyer. However I will give it to boxer that hes really famous hence, I ADMIRE HIM AND RESPECT BOXER. Sadly.. Idra isnt even close to boxer.. not even an iota. Even if they were I wouldn;t be too surprised if someone like Flash were to be very successful in life. If you go to apply for a job and ur like hey I want to be part of this company. No legit company is gonna give a shit that u played 12 hrs of SC everyday and thats ALL u know how to do. MAYBE if you were someone liek Flash applying for college WITH actual schooling you might get someone, but you gotta stick out like crazy if you really think starcraft is gonna help u get into school or jobs LOL. Honestly if you know anything about life, unless you are famous in the arts and you really gotta stick out, education is what carries you. Idra right now doesn't go to school and I putting (I played SC on a Korean B team for my life instead of going to School) on your resume isnt gonna look cool especially if you at least didnt win some big tournies and get some fame. Besides, it's my outlook of Idra you can worship him and admire him all you want. To me he isn't a role model on the large scale. I hope Nony wipes the floor with him. | ||
mmp
United States2130 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
On February 11 2010 07:45 PiePie wrote: Also provoking people is never good, read the other interviews, are they at all provoking in ANY way to anyone? I'm sure playing 12 hours a day eating for one or two and then sleeping the rest is a great experience of life in Korea right /sarcasm. Let's be honest here, the progamer's life is probably not a healthy one. At least if you are going to spend 12 hours a day get on the A team. Look I dont admire people because they try and fail. I admire people that Try and succeed. No one cares about some kid from a poor country who tries to come to america for a new life, ends up doing drugs and getting arrested. People care about the person who came and made something of themselves, became a someone. He put in the effort, I admire that. Now I want to see something. Now Idra isn't THAT fail, im simply stating why i dont admire him, its not like i HATE HIM or anything. If asked I probably wouldnt mind getting lunch with him or something but It doesnt mean Im gonna feel the same if granted a lunch with Jaedong, Flash (I can name all the names u already know blah blah). Also being a second rate gamer in Korea and when u try to get a SERIOUS job isnt gonna do you ANY good. Also not many people get fellowships... maybe about 5% of the population..lol.. and my fellowship is in BME which Georgia Tech is the number 2 institution in. But fuck me why does it matter. I'm just stating that the 10% of the population which we consider to be "sucessful" at least with money probably were NOT second rate gamers or even gamers at all. Even if they were I wouldn;t be too surprised if someone like Flash were to be very successful in life. If you go to apply for a job and ur like hey I want to be part of this company. No legit company is gonna give a shit that u played 12 hrs of SC everyday and thats ALL u know how to do. MAYBE if you were someone liek Flash applying for college WITH actual schooling you might get someone, but you gotta stick out like crazy if you really think starcraft is gonna help u get into school or jobs LOL. Honestly if you know anything about life, unless you are famous in the arts and you really gotta stick out, education is what carries you. Idra right now doesn't go to school and I putting (I played SC on a Korean B team for my life instead of going to School) on your resume isnt gonna look cool especially if you at least didnt win some big tournies and get some fame. Besides, it's my outlook of Idra you can worship him and admire him all you want. To me he isn't a role model on the large scale. I hope Nony wipes the floor with him. TSL/WCG usa and all the other tournies he won outside of korea are 'tourneys' with fame. He's gonna win stuff in SC2 too so he'll be fine. I'm happy you're in a good school and stuff but if you think that's the only way to become succesfull you've been brainwashed. | ||
PiePie
United States248 Posts
On February 11 2010 07:55 ret wrote: TSL/WCG usa and all the other tournies he won outside of korea are 'tourneys' with fame. He's gonna win stuff in SC2 too so he'll be fine. I'm happy you're in a good school and stuff but if you think that's the only way to become succesfull you've been brainwashed. Well I know theres plenty of other ways.. But lets look at the stats of successful people and just step back. Honestly successful in gaming is like boxer flash level and some others.. Idra.. no.. not really... I already admitted that some progamers are sucessful and I admitted that I fully admire and respect those people. I admire top rate gamers that wow me and achieve so high which is why i love watching them, its like watching my favorite tennis player in action. I love Starcraft and I think to commit your life to it and become successful is really a massive and admirable task, but it doesn't mean I have to admire all second rate players. Very small population of highschool basketball players will get drafted to the NBA. those in second rate leagues well...honestly not many care. But idra.. please... not even close... I guess when SC2 comes out he has a chance, but speculating sucess doesn;t do us very good. If he does end up becoming super pro in SC2 I will fully bow and respect him. If that is something he wishes to go for, I fully respect that and I think its legit. However... he has to get there first... I just hope Nony tears him to shreds. Besides, if Nony wins it will probably be more exciting anyways considering hes a huge underdog haha xD. | ||
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NonY
8748 Posts
On February 11 2010 07:45 PiePie wrote: If you go to apply for a job and ur like hey I want to be part of this company. No legit company is gonna give a shit that u played 12 hrs of SC everyday and thats ALL u know how to do. MAYBE if you were someone liek Flash applying for college WITH actual schooling you might get someone, but you gotta stick out like crazy if you really think starcraft is gonna help u get into school or jobs LOL. Honestly if you know anything about life, unless you are famous in the arts and you really gotta stick out, education is what carries you. The artists, writers, musicians, actors, athletes, competitors et cetera are admirable because of their courage to take risks. If you evaluate all the things you can do in life by how helpful they are for a successful career, then you are taking the easy way out. The world would be very boring if everyone did that. People with traditional career paths can be admirable if they exceed their colleagues insofar as their field allows superior individuals to rise to the top. But their ability to forge a successful career is completely unadmirable because millions have done so before them and the right choices were always no-brainers. And every step of the way they had tons of advice on how to do it. | ||
PiePie
United States248 Posts
On February 11 2010 08:09 Liquid`NonY wrote: The artists, writers, musicians, actors, athletes, competitors et cetera are admirable because of their courage to take risks. If you evaluate all the things you can do in life by how helpful they are for a successful career, then you are taking the easy way out. The world would be very boring if everyone did that. People with traditional career paths can be admirable if they exceed their colleagues insofar as their field allows superior individuals to rise to the top. But their ability to forge a successful career is completely unadmirable because millions have done so before them and the right choices were always no-brainers. And every step of the way they had tons of advice on how to do it. Yes but those actually well off are still admirable in their traditional career paths... Not everyone can become a doctor or lawyer and those paid very high are very few.. the majority of the population is very poor. Now please look at my argument at a whole and not just the money part of it. Money is important, but hes not going to achieve as high as those to reach respect yet... maybe he will in the future and i Admitted thatI WILL respect him. In addition please read what the person posted before me said. he said after we graduate from college and apply for a job.. that he would get it and I wouldn't... we wouldn't even compete in the same job markets and Idra already has sacrificed his education A LOT. There have been many greats in acedemics. Infact computer language and the computer you use now is probably due to the research and work of thousands of people... I mean seriously the most sucessful person in the world and probably one of the most famous is a business man... (add that to doctors, lawyers, businessmen etc). I understand those jobs are sorta generic but they are VERY hard to achieve to get to the top just like pro gaming. I value top rate gamers the same as I would other people but IDra isnt even close. I said BEFORE i already admire him for the risk but hes not at the state where I would admire him as a starcraft player. This will be my last post regarding this issue, I do admit it was a bit blown out of proportion and I do apologize for that. Case in point I dont like Idra BM and Nony needs to show this guy what a married guy can do ;] User was warned for these posts. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
On February 11 2010 08:13 PiePie wrote: Yes but those actually well off are still admirable in their traditional career paths... Not everyone can become a doctor or lawyer and those paid very high are very few.. the majority of the population is very poor. Now please look at my argument at a whole and not just the money part of it. Money is important, but hes not going to achieve as high as those to reach respect yet... maybe he will in the future and i Admitted thatI WILL respect him. In addition please read what the person posted before me said. he said after we graduate from college and apply for a job.. that he would get it and I wouldn't... we wouldn't even compete in the same job markets and Idra already has sacrificed his education A LOT. PiePie, this is not a thread to talk about or insult a player's life choices. It is not a thread to compare yourself to him. This hijacks the thread that should be about Idra vs Nony, and as general conduct goes, what you're doing here is distasteful and sad. Consider this a warning. | ||
1984
Ukraine115 Posts
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getSome[703]
United States753 Posts
IdrA[Media] No, I think the Ra vs JF winner will be more dangerous simply because they're more comfortable with cheesy, abusive play. If Nony wants to play to my weaknesses, he takes himself out of his element as well, so while he is the more skilled player, I'm much more comfortable with him style wise. | ||
PiePie
United States248 Posts
On February 11 2010 08:40 getSome[703] wrote: Does Idra admit Nony is a better player? IdrA[Media] No, I think the Ra vs JF winner will be more dangerous simply because they're more comfortable with cheesy, abusive play. If Nony wants to play to my weaknesses, he takes himself out of his element as well, so while he is the more skilled player, I'm much more comfortable with him style wise. Hmm, Im not sure. But I take it as; while Nony may be better with control and execution, but I think Idra thinks he has an edge with mindgames and I guess overall mindset. After all, IdrA does have more experience with tournaments so I guess not only does he think he has the style advantage, but he is less nervous as well. | ||
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NonY
8748 Posts
On February 11 2010 08:40 getSome[703] wrote: Does Idra admit Nony is a better player? IdrA[Media] No, I think the Ra vs JF winner will be more dangerous simply because they're more comfortable with cheesy, abusive play. If Nony wants to play to my weaknesses, he takes himself out of his element as well, so while he is the more skilled player, I'm much more comfortable with him style wise. In other words, IdrA is saying that I can beat more people than Ra and JF can beat, but Ra and JF are more likely to beat IdrA than I am. He gets this idea from styles of play. | ||
Abjurer
Sweden203 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
Don't worry Idra, the white man's always been trying to silence the brothers. You do a credit to BHM, where we honor your predecessors. People who refused "to be a model for the Growing American Boy, that his public relation be immaculate", like Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali is a folk hero, one of the first truly black men to challenge America in black terms. He was not the humble Negro champion like Joe Louis, the good champion who knew his place, “a credit to his race,” whom whites could tolerate. He is neither humble nor socially amoral. He is a complex, brilliant young man, who rewrote the scenario on his terms. And, of course, white America reacted. After he became champion in 1964, the World’s Boxing Association, largely an honorary agency with little power, stripped him of his title because of his adoption of the Black Muslim faith. And when he refused to be drafted into the Army in 1967, opposing the war in Vietnam, every state boxing commission took away his title and his right to box because his act was “detrimental to boxing.” Ring magazine, more definitive in its “professional” judgments than any boxing commission, refused to award Ali its 1970 Fighter of the Year award (giving it to Frazier) because they felt that “. . . the winner should be a model for the Growing American Boy, that his public relation be immaculate. . . . Cassius Clay would have been the ideal example of a professional fighter if he had not refused to sing out ‘God Bless America’.” Joe Frazier viciously pounded a no longer fleetfooted boxer in thirteen of fifteen rounds, and most of the ringside celebrities applauded the “comeuppance.” “He deserved it,” said one international film star. There were few sympathizers near the ring. Ringsiders seemed satisfied. --- Idra, you are a complex, brilliant young man, neither humble nor socially amoral. Know that if you win, the Man will snub you for not being an immaculate winner. If you lose, they will applaud your comeuppance. But those of us who can see past the color of your skin and applaud you for embracing your culture will always remember you as a champion. | ||
BalloonFight
United States2007 Posts
Speaking of money... You know how valuable an experience like this is? When you and idra graduate from university and apply for the same job, who do you think gets picked? The one guy in a hundred thousands of people with a scholarship or the one unique guy that made a living off of something pretty much no american has ever done in a country where literally noone speaks his language? Here's a hint: It's not you. And I'm just speaking of the money here. The life experience you gain there for yourself probably weighs a ton more than anything else. l o l here's a hint: it's not idra yeah, let's hire the kid who played SC in korea for our chem e opening!! rofl | ||
IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On February 11 2010 08:40 getSome[703] wrote: Does Idra admit Nony is a better player? IdrA[Media] No, I think the Ra vs JF winner will be more dangerous simply because they're more comfortable with cheesy, abusive play. If Nony wants to play to my weaknesses, he takes himself out of his element as well, so while he is the more skilled player, I'm much more comfortable with him style wise. you know, when this was posted hot_bid asked me if i wanted to reword that answer so it was less ambiguous. i replied that no, tl certainly has some stupid posters, but i dont really care if magic~phil misunderstands me and i was pretty sure that everyone else was capable of basic reading comprehension. ![]() | ||
tinman
United States287 Posts
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kruul_pz
United States10 Posts
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
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getSome[703]
United States753 Posts
On February 11 2010 10:23 IdrA wrote: you know, when this was posted hot_bid asked me if i wanted to reword that answer so it was less ambiguous. i replied that no, tl certainly has some stupid posters, but i dont really care if magic~phil misunderstands me and i was pretty sure that everyone else was capable of basic reading comprehension. ![]() Unfortunately, relying on my basic reading comprehension skills suggests you think Nony is a more skilled player ![]() I quite enjoyed the interview - good luck this weekend. | ||
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