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On February 11 2010 03:35 hyperioNsin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2010 14:49 3clipse wrote: Does IdrA remind anyone else of Phil Hellmuth? But Hellmuth is not the best in his area xD Yeah, IdrA is more like the Kobe Bryant of BW. He's at the top of his field and he is still always whining about abusive strategies used by their opponents to beat them, whether it be to the press, referees, fans, or whomever.
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it would be really cool to meet idra irl
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On February 11 2010 03:17 Salteador Neo wrote: We need Nony to 12 nex, build carriers and lpay dts.
lol ^^
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On February 11 2010 03:42 Singu wrote: Neither is Idra.
Imo, Idra just needs to blow some steam off and get laid. Artosis, could you set him up with a Korean tranny or something and make a movie of it? Something like him getting a blowjob while he is going proxy fact? That would be awesome.
incredible how IdrA interviews consistently attract the worst posts on tl
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On February 11 2010 03:35 hyperioNsin wrote: But Hellmuth is not the best in his area xD He's got the most WSOP bracelets out of anyone, which is on the largest stage in the world and against all the best players... so you could easily make the argument that he is (or at least was) the best. The only people who are close are Brunson, Chan and arguably Seidel... The equivalent would be having a slew of OSL/MSL golds. Granted, Hellmuth is whiny & annoying, but he's got the credentials to back it up.
That said, I'm hoping for and expecting a 3-2 match either way. I find that close games are always more entertaining than blowouts. I picked Idra in my Liquibet, at any rate.
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I hope Nony can take game 1 to put Idra in a bad mood. ^^
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On February 11 2010 04:57 RyanS wrote: I hope Nony can take game 1 to put Idra in a bad mood. ^^
I hope Nony take the 3 games to see Idra... ^_^
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Idra has spent much of his life to be as good as he can be at SC. He has endured an environment where most people don't speak his language and grudgingly make him work twice as hard as anyone else for every inch of respect (from what I understand) He plays 12 hours a day and against better opponents than anyone else in the foreigner scene.
Has he not earned the right to be somewhat cocky? I mean, if he were facing a top professional Protoss and predicted a 3-0, it would be foolish and obviously an act. To predict 3-0 against a guy who recently got married and hasn't done anything in the last year besides beat obviously overmatched opponents isn't an act.
Also note that he doesn't bash Nony as being a bad player or give ridiculous reasons as to why he thinks he is going to win. He simply thinks he is going to dominate a guy who hasn't played nearly as much SC as he has.
Anyway, gl hf and GGs to both.
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lolol "I've never been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't going to happen"
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I hope Nony wins!!!! Anyone know why Nony hasn't been streaming lately?? Was hoping he was going to play even more considering his match vs Idra is soon!!!!!
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On February 11 2010 05:57 JWD wrote: lolol "I've never been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't going to happen" Yeah, that part actually made me smile a bit. He's right though you need to be confident and think you're going to win. Show no fear.
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Awesome interview as always.
On February 11 2010 05:57 JWD wrote: lolol "I've never been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't going to happen" So true, but he's right.
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On February 10 2010 18:05 Harem wrote: Idra leaking results already?
omg take away the prize money lol
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On February 11 2010 05:29 petered wrote: Idra has spent much of his life to be as good as he can be at SC. He has endured an environment where most people don't speak his language and grudgingly make him work twice as hard as anyone else for every inch of respect (from what I understand) He plays 12 hours a day and against better opponents than anyone else in the foreigner scene.
Has he not earned the right to be somewhat cocky? I mean, if he were facing a top professional Protoss and predicted a 3-0, it would be foolish and obviously an act. To predict 3-0 against a guy who recently got married and hasn't done anything in the last year besides beat obviously overmatched opponents isn't an act.
Also note that he doesn't bash Nony as being a bad player or give ridiculous reasons as to why he thinks he is going to win. He simply thinks he is going to dominate a guy who hasn't played nearly as much SC as he has.
Anyway, gl hf and GGs to both.
The way you present yourself is very important regardless of how confident you are. Professionalism is something that we all adore and respect. Even if a basketball player like Jordan were to go up against a high school team player, it doesn't mean he should use that kind of tone. Notice how Idra seems even sarcastic in some of his answers like about the counter to 2 nex.
The point is, he needs to be much much more professional and his interview simply does not seem like it when compared to others. There is a hint of BM in there and we can all detect it.
The term "Cocky" has a bad connotation. Im sure most of us dont like cocky people, but we like confident people. Theres a difference.
I personally do not admire Idra much. Yes he tried something that most non Koreans would not dare try, and I do commend him for that, but I'm going to say that he is not on their level at all. It's quite sad. I'll admire him for maybe his hard work, but I will not admire him for his Charisma or Skill. Being good matters, being the best of the best matters... we can talk about ideals and what he may deserves, what his hardships are, but his life is a game which he is not even notable at on the large scale... I mean he has no endorsements and i DOUBT he gets paid that much... even if he makes 30 grand a year USD (I doubt he even makes that much, i mean hes not even on the A team) that is NOTHING compared to what students his age get in scholarships. (I for one am on a fellowship for 30 grand and my housing and food costs are covered) at georgia tech and after I earn my degree I'll climb higher. Honestly... if you are going to pursue a career in games.. u need to be the top of the top... that is why I admire Flash who still goes to school and makes huge money (MSL +OSL winnings +PL wage + all the random endorsements he gets for everything). Its just not the same
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LOL so confident. hoping for an interesting series.
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Im not sure if any match the rest of the way will have as much hype as this one. Perhaps an IdrA vs Ret final would create more buzz, but aside from that its tough to see any other matchup getting as much attention as this one. Im hoping for a full 5 game series because the excitement going into that 5th game would be off the charts.
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The way you present yourself is very important regardless of how confident you are. Professionalism is something that we all adore and respect. Even if a basketball player like Jordan were to go up against a high school team player, it doesn't mean he should use that kind of tone. Notice how Idra seems even sarcastic in some of his answers like about the counter to 2 nex.
The point is, he needs to be much much more professional and his interview simply does not seem like it when compared to others. There is a hint of BM in there and we can all detect it.
The term "Cocky" has a bad connotation. Im sure most of us dont like cocky people, but we like confident people. Theres a difference.
I personally do not admire Idra much. Yes he tried something that most non Koreans would not dare try, and I do commend him for that, but I'm going to say that he is not on their level at all. It's quite sad. I'll admire him for maybe his hard work, but I will not admire him for his Charisma or Skill. Being good matters, being the best of the best matters... we can talk about ideals and what he may deserves, what his hardships are, but his life is a game which he is not even notable at on the large scale... I mean he has no endorsements and i DOUBT he gets paid that much... even if he makes 30 grand a year USD (I doubt he even makes that much, i mean hes not even on the A team) that is NOTHING compared to what students his age get in scholarships. (I for one am on a fellowship for 30 grand and my housing and food costs are covered) at georgia tech and after I earn my degree I'll climb higher. Honestly... if you are going to pursue a career in games.. u need to be the top of the top... that is why I admire Flash who still goes to school and makes huge money (MSL +OSL winnings +PL wage + all the random endorsements he gets for everything). Its just not the same
I don't personally know Idra, but from the interviews I have seen it seems like what you call, "a hint of BM" is probably more like, "humor and good fun" to Idra.
Also, I think he will acknowledge that he isn't at the top, but why does his skill not inspire admiration? Do you not admire Yellow since he was always second to Boxer? Do you not admire Phil Mickleson since he was always second to Tiger?
Truth is, he is miles ahead of anyone else in the foreigner starcraft scene. Many people seem to admire Nony for his crazy skill. Why is Idra's skill less admirable? Did he work less hard to get it or something?
I think it is unfair to point to his salary and say that he is insignificant as a SC:BW player. His salary is more of a function of his chosen career path rather than his rank in the world of SC. For example, lets just say theoretically that he is the 300th best SC player in the world (probably underestimating him at that spot) The 300th best basketball player gets a heck of a lot more respect and money than he does. It is simply because basketball is more popular than SC, hence more money generated for the players.
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It's funny. A year ago I was thinking that the tl.net community as a whole was exceptionally smart and had a great sense of humor. While this is still true for pretty much every established poster/staff and like 20% of the other posters, this has changed a lot in the last few months and every Idra-interview shows that very clearly.
On February 11 2010 07:00 PiePie wrote: Notice how Idra seems even sarcastic in some of his answers like about the counter to 2 nex.
He doesn't seem sarcastic, he is. Sure, he's confident (who wouldn't be in his position), but in every single interview I've heard/read of him, he just had an awesome sense of humor and that's it. You're (and I'm just using your post as an example of like 50% of all the responses in this thread and every idra-interview ever) just not getting it.
On February 11 2010 07:00 PiePie wrote: The point is, he needs to be much much more professional and his interview simply does not seem like it when compared to others. There is a hint of BM in there and we can all detect it.
No, he doesn't. First of all who are you to tell him what to do and what to say? That's a lot more cocky and bm than everything Idra has ever said lol. And there's not a hint of bm, there's a buttload of bm and that's probably because Idra and Nony get along rather well and tease each other. Also Idra probably wants to entertain and he likes to provoke people like you.
On February 11 2010 07:00 PiePie wrote: I personally do not admire Idra much. Yes he tried something that most non Koreans would not dare try, and I do commend him for that, but I'm going to say that he is not on their level at all. It's quite sad.
So you actually like the standard pro-gamer interview that I could do on behalf of them because it's absolutely clear what they say? Or the good old Mondragon-interviews where he aaaaalways says he's the underdog no matter how shitty his opponent is? Seriously?
On February 11 2010 07:00 PiePie wrote: I mean he has no endorsements and i DOUBT he gets paid that much... even if he makes 30 grand a year USD (I doubt he even makes that much, i mean hes not even on the A team) that is NOTHING compared to what students his age get in scholarships. (I for one am on a fellowship for 30 grand and my housing and food costs are covered) at georgia tech and after I earn my degree I'll climb higher. Honestly... if you are going to pursue a career in games.. u need to be the top of the top... that is why I admire Flash who still goes to school and makes huge money (MSL +OSL winnings +PL wage + all the random endorsements he gets for everything). Its just not the same
Speaking of money... You know how valuable an experience like this is? When you and idra graduate from university and apply for the same job, who do you think gets picked? The one guy in a hundred thousands of people with a scholarship or the one unique guy that made a living off of something pretty much no american has ever done in a country where literally noone speaks his language? Here's a hint: It's not you. And I'm just speaking of the money here. The life experience you gain there for yourself probably weighs a ton more than anything else.
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