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On January 07 2010 18:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I'm going to let cloud finish here, but G5 had one of the best PvP probe cuts of recent TSL2 history. wow i just seen this.. epic post lol!
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G5 fighting! Quite a nice series, fun. Cloud had clearly better macro and hence a macro advantage all the time in both games, but lost to G5's superior micro. (alright, G5's timing was perfect in game 1, attacking just before the storm research finishing. Luck or gamesense?:-p But in game 2, just great micro, both with the probe defense several times, and constantly sniping the reavers of Cloud)
ggs G5 is actually one of the few people who could eliminate ret without me feeling bad about it pvz scout micro gogo
On January 07 2010 18:41 iG.ClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2010 18:29 Drazzzt wrote:On January 07 2010 18:19 iG.ClouD wrote: It was very frustrating, I play so bad in tournaments. My preparation this time was far superior to g5 but I get too nervous and make shitty decisions, like making 4 templars before researching storm in the first game or even forgetting to research storm in the second one. I won't congratulate to g5 because I think he actually played bad (going for blind, unsafe builds without having a clue of what I was doing), but well in the end the mistake was mine trying to think I can compete in tournaments even though I always get nervous and ansious to the point of not being able to think logically at all. I hate that kind of unmannered posts. Ok, you lost. Just stand it. He played better than you. Talking about having a "far superior preparation" or not congratulating, because "G5 played bad", is simply disrespectful. You won't win any friends talking like this. I am not gonna state he played good if he played without scouting at all, nor I am gonna state he had a better preparation when he obviously didn't. Why is it unmannered? Have you even watched the replays? Congratulating someone for advancing over you is not equal to saying he played good, its basic manners and accepting defeat. (and actually, he played better than you in the series, thats why he won.) Also, if you can compare your preparations without actually seeing G5's, i guess he can might as well counter your builds without actually scouting them. (seriously though, in the interview he says he practiced with and got tips from Nony and White-Ra. Who other better foreign protosses to turn to?) Please be a little more respectful, even though you must be super-upset for having a very hard time staying calm and focused in tourneys, I understand it must suck big time. You still have a large amount of fans, dont do this to them.
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On January 07 2010 18:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I'm going to let cloud finish here, but G5 had one of the best PvP probe cuts of recent TSL2 history.
lolololol
I can understand Clouds position though, I can see the points he makes and watching the games its obvious that it must have been frustrating as hell though I dont think thats a reason not to congratulate. But I mean if youre this nervous here, what are the chances of beating someone like ret anyways...
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Actually, after watching a bunch of Cloud's replays in the pack, I think it's a tad better for Flaf to face G5. I've seen some sick games by Cloud vs people I think are (were) a bit better than Flaf in ZvP.
So you know. Grats, G5. Sorry you lost, Cloud. Go Fluffy!
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insane. NIce to see it finally started
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On January 07 2010 18:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I'm going to let cloud finish here, but G5 had one of the best PvP probe cuts of recent TSL2 history. Cloud got Kanye'd
On January 07 2010 19:15 Lz wrote:Great job Eric ~ Msg me on msn if you need some practice in the coming days G5 needs to train vs a GOOD zerg, sorry EzGaMeR
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same as i said. cloud gonna lose round1......
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In my opinion G5 was very lucky in both games, as he was basically all-in due to his probe count. It was cheese, I feel really bad for Cloud. In the first game his psi storm finished too late and in the second game, he fucked up his goon micro reaaaaally hard. I wondered why Cloud didn't go for smth like 3 gate or 4 gate when he saw G5's fe and expoed himself instead?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 07 2010 18:41 iG.ClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2010 18:29 Drazzzt wrote:On January 07 2010 18:19 iG.ClouD wrote: It was very frustrating, I play so bad in tournaments. My preparation this time was far superior to g5 but I get too nervous and make shitty decisions, like making 4 templars before researching storm in the first game or even forgetting to research storm in the second one. I won't congratulate to g5 because I think he actually played bad (going for blind, unsafe builds without having a clue of what I was doing), but well in the end the mistake was mine trying to think I can compete in tournaments even though I always get nervous and ansious to the point of not being able to think logically at all. I hate that kind of unmannered posts. Ok, you lost. Just stand it. He played better than you. Talking about having a "far superior preparation" or not congratulating, because "G5 played bad", is simply disrespectful. You won't win any friends talking like this. I am not gonna state he played good if he played without scouting at all, nor I am gonna state he had a better preparation when he obviously didn't. Why is it unmannered? Have you even watched the replays? I know exactly what you mean here cloud no offense to G5 what so ever but Cloud played superior to G5 in both games. Better probe production, better timings, cleaner mechanics etc but the one thing which G5 did better was engage every battle perfectly. It was beautiful to watch, but man it must have sucked for you cloud =[. If G5 wants to give ret a run for his money he's really going to need to smooth over his game and bring his mechanics up to par. Here's hoping he can
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Valhalla18444 Posts
pretty loose definition of 'played better' given the priority list in PvP Plexa
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this is the person who put shine[kal] in 4th place in a ranking of starcraft players. you cant really expect him to understand anything at all.
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Im feeling sad cause the things that lost Cloud the game were so slim and little.. Game 2 for example his unit positioning was so bad He was better at everything until this battle and suddenly his zealots run one after the other and his units were not well spread
+ at one attack focusing on the nexus would have maybe been gg as well
To be honest I totally get what Cloud is saying
Basicaly G5 didnt play particulary amazing at all. Its just that Cloud made a few bad decision and G5 really just kinda got a gift here. I mean did u see how high in the tech tree Cloud was compared to G5 ? The unit count ? Man I hate to say it but all that lost it for Cloud were those very very sloppy fights.. and that is frustrating as hell. Basicaly Cloud was better in every aspect of the game except one and thats that...
ggs !
Was very nice to watch the replays man !
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yaa really congrats G5 gw !
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Clouds game is on another level than G5, too bad he played bad today and lost
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both played really weird in my oppinion... But hey? g5 won fair and square so gl vs flaf in the next round
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if your control and positioning and unit choice are bad enough to lose multiple fights while you're up 90 supply to 60 something is seriously wrong. they both made mistakes. cloud's were alot fuckin bigger. how did he deserve to win?
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finished watching first game - SO SAD! i'm more impressed by cloud pulling of a nony than g5s build order. actually cloud was slightly ahead when he messed it up.
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On January 07 2010 21:26 IdrA wrote: if your control and positioning and unit choice are bad enough to lose multiple fights while you're up 90 supply to 60 something is seriously wrong. they both made mistakes. cloud's were alot fuckin bigger. how did he deserve to win? No one is saying I deserve to win, when you play that bad all you deserve is to die. Seriously though, I can't just handle the pressure. I'll keep playing and maybe I'll stream my games, but I'm not expecting to do anything in tournaments anymore.
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And were off! Wow im so excited about TSL play-offs, too bad i have a HUGE exam this coming friday this next friday :/
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Carlo
You played really well man. It was so close and there were a few times (especially in game 2) that I thought you had it. Really was hoping for you to snipe that nexus there. Oh well, good luck in the future and hoping you start streaming soon!
Your Fan,
LW
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