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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On January 09 2010 02:19 Liquid`NonY wrote: it doesn't matter how good cloud's pvz is i thought it has stayed on topic :o Stating the opinion that flaf has better chances winning vs g5 than vs cloud because u think clouds pvz is better than g5s is totally fine and makes sense what a stupid response is this of yours ? Seriously ? | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
Its obvious that i ment that G5 has lower chances of wining FLaf than Cloud.... Last few matches i saw Flaf wining both White-ra and Infernal which i consider them 2 of the best pvz on the nonkorean scene . | ||
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rANDY
United Kingdom748 Posts
On January 09 2010 02:54 Chill wrote: Just because you use the word time, it's not timing. G5 crossed the bridge and Cloud ran into him. There's no timing there. Unless G5 specifically built that army for that moment, in which case I apologize, but I'm very confident he didn't and just decided it was time to move out. his moveout timing was when his zeal speed finished | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
regarding the games, I`m so sad that cloud lost and I hope that he really sticks around in the scene. | ||
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TT1
Canada10045 Posts
On January 09 2010 02:54 Chill wrote: Just because you use the word time, it's not timing. G5 crossed the bridge and Cloud ran into him. There's no timing there. Unless G5 specifically built that army for that moment, in which case I apologize, but I'm very confident he didn't and just decided it was time to move out. exactly, theres no timing involved unless g5 had a maphack to check out how much of cloud's storm upgrade was done in order to attack him.. he just happened to attack cloud when his storm tech wasnt done, when he started exping and while he had 4 goons out of position at his 2nd exp its hard to have any type of timing in a pvp when the game turns into a macro game, especially on desti where probe cutting is pretty much useless (pvp timing/probe cuts are more important when the game is still 1base vs 1base and when u go for b.o's like a 1gate robo/exp/reav etc..) | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On January 09 2010 02:54 Chill wrote: Just because you use the word time, it's not timing. G5 crossed the bridge and Cloud ran into him. There's no timing there. Unless G5 specifically built that army for that moment, in which case I apologize, but I'm very confident he didn't and just decided it was time to move out. I shouldn't have bolded that sentence, it makes what I was trying to say confusing. What I mean was that G5 stated that he was cutting probes to gain an army advantage over Cloud. That advantage doesn't last for the whole game, there is a timing in which that cut will benefit G5 and allow him more units, however after that certain point, he would lose the advantage. G5 stated that he realized this timing was coming to a close, and that he attacked because of this. IDK if that's considered timing by everyone, I would consider it so. It's much like any timing attack IMO, you are doing some build that will allow a window of opportunity in which you have the advantage, if you don't attack during that period, you will lose your advantage and gain a disadvantage. I suppose what's the debated is whether you would consider timing attacking at a very specific moment, and whether you would also considering timing to be a period of time in which the persons actions will give them the advantage. | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
On January 09 2010 04:18 NiGoL wrote: Because its the only series that's been played out, so we're going to analyze the replays into the ground...Why keep discussing this when its over and done? ..and start plenty of drama while we're at it. | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
On January 09 2010 04:22 ProTech_MediC wrote: Because its the only series that's been played out, so we're going to analyze the replays into the ground... ..and start plenty of drama while we're at it. yea "analyze" as much as u want, HE won and thats the end of it. Just be happy and move on like seriously? there are A LOT more games to be played in this tournament. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On January 09 2010 03:48 SkelA wrote: Yea english is not my first language you calling me dumb because of that? Let me see you understand my native language then eh.. I asure you wont understand a word does this makes you a retard then ? Its obvious that i ment that G5 has lower chances of wining FLaf than Cloud.... Last few matches i saw Flaf wining both White-ra and Infernal which i consider them 2 of the best pvz on the nonkorean scene . I didn't call you dumb in my post. This is getting pretty frustrating. | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
On January 09 2010 03:30 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Stating the opinion that flaf has better chances winning vs g5 than vs cloud because u think clouds pvz is better than g5s is totally fine and makes sense what a stupid response is this of yours ? Seriously ? as motbob pointed out, that isnt what skela wrote. i just read and responded to what he wrote. and why do you always have this disbelief? seriously? did you even watch the replay? what a stupid response is this of yours? give us a break. On January 09 2010 03:48 SkelA wrote: Yea english is not my first language you calling me dumb because of that? Let me see you understand my native language then eh.. I asure you wont understand a word does this makes you a retard then ? who are you talking to? nobody called you dumb. he called magic~phil dumb. just give up kid On January 09 2010 04:02 mdb wrote:I perfectly understood what skela meant, i mean its not like he wrote something very difficult to understand. in skela's sentence, if you replace "good" with "better" then it would make sense. huge difference in meaning between those two and there's never any instance where one can mean the other. so i dont see how it's so easy to understand. but if you read skela's post history, you'd familiarize yourself with his habit of writing nonsense. so you wouldnt think "oh he accidentally didnt use a comparative" but rather "where are some pins so i can gouge out my eyes" | ||
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win8282
Korea (South)454 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
But, after all its not that important, I feel dumb for arguing about this ^^ gl tomorrow nony, i`m rooting for you. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
On January 09 2010 03:41 motbob wrote: In this case you're both dumb: Skela wrote an incomprehensible post that in no way could be interpreted in saying that flaf has a better chance of winning against g5 than against cloud. MaGic~PhiL, it is not Nony's fault that he misunderstood SkelA. It if SkelA's fault for not having a good grasp of the English language. Calling him dumb for that is... dumb. Ok Im blind here or what???? You are calling either ME or Nony dumb so pls explain because my english skills are bad as you said yourself. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Freezard
Sweden1026 Posts
On January 08 2010 07:32 ceaRshaf wrote: This is the higher level for foreign.! Well, then I had too high expectations I guess. This was terrible play by Cloud. It seems he just focused 100% on macro and didn't even watch the battles. He never even stormed many templars even though he had tons of energy and storm, annoyed me a lot. Felt like he surrendered before the game was over. As for G5's play, well, I guess it was the perfect counter to Cloud's type of play - not giving him time. Still remains to see how good he is. | ||
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NonY
8751 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36401 Posts
On January 09 2010 05:22 Freezard wrote: Well, then I had too high expectations I guess. This was terrible play by Cloud. It seems he just focused 100% on macro and didn't even watch the battles. He never even stormed many templars even though he had tons of energy and storm, annoyed me a lot. Felt like he surrendered before the game was over. As for G5's play, well, I guess it was the perfect counter to Cloud's type of play - not giving him time. Still remains to see how good he is. I think its more indicative of the pressure of the moment rather than just lack of ability, obviously Cloud doesn't usually forget storm in practice or something. | ||
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