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I don't get it. In what context would saying "Go tell the jews that they should stop complaining about what Hitler did" would be an offence let alone a bannable offence??
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ohh god we're talking politics in tl-abl again, someone light the kwark signal we need a good purge
And I'm fine with a warning or a minor ban for any and all attempts to compare things that don't involve racial cleansing to the Holocaust. Its not helpful, its going to piss people off, and its just going to make any conversation worse, which is a great reason to stomp it out.
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But if you light the KwarK signal and he comes, he will then have to ban himself for breaking the terms of his banbet. Which I am not saying would be a net loss for TL or humanity for that matter, but definitely something to consider 
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Hyrule19057 Posts
don't worry, I'm happy to give you all bans.
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The older ones are better you can find them in the op
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Canada11355 Posts
Just think, if you all played mafia you would have two banlists to be off topic in
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
On January 26 2017 07:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Just think, if you all played mafia you would have two banlists to be off topic in
Why bother playing mafia if you can just go there and be off topic without being a mafia player?
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That sounds even better than the time we found a old olympics forum that never got deleted and had a couple of days of glorious shit posting before someone ratted us out.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
On January 26 2017 07:25 Jaaaaasper wrote:
That sounds even better than the time we found a old olympics forum that never got deleted and had a couple of days of glorious shit posting before someone ratted us out.
...How I wish I had been there for that as well.
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I now we should be cheerful here, but opisskas posts are alarmingly unfunny
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On January 26 2017 06:30 Jaaaaasper wrote:
And I'm fine with a warning or a minor ban for any and all attempts to compare things that don't involve racial cleansing to the Holocaust. Its not helpful, its going to piss people off, and its just going to make any conversation worse, which is a great reason to stomp it out. In that case, you are asking to ban 50% of SC2 posts, nevermind the general political threads. It's just strangely inconsistent. Someone can call for racial cleansing of muslims and as he is a writer, that is fine. But you are ok with a warning or ban to a tangential comparison? To what does a religion or event deserve a special consideration? Is it really simply cultural self importance?
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link to post calling for racial cleansing of muslims?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 26 2017 09:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
link to post calling for racial cleansing of muslims?
I too am curious to see this claim.
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On January 26 2017 09:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2017 06:30 Jaaaaasper wrote:
And I'm fine with a warning or a minor ban for any and all attempts to compare things that don't involve racial cleansing to the Holocaust. Its not helpful, its going to piss people off, and its just going to make any conversation worse, which is a great reason to stomp it out. In that case, you are asking to ban 50% of SC2 posts, nevermind the general political threads. It's just strangely inconsistent. Someone can call for racial cleansing of muslims and as he is a writer, that is fine. But you are ok with a warning or ban to a tangential comparison? To what does a religion or event deserve a special consideration? Is it really simply cultural self importance?
If someone on tl is calling for racial cleansing and not getting moderated they didn't get reported and no staff saw it. And despite the presence of most people in this thread, tl holds its posters to a higher standard than other places, so yeah I'm fine with no Holocaust comparisons, especially for stuff like a 3 game mafia ban.
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On January 26 2017 12:16 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2017 09:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On January 26 2017 06:30 Jaaaaasper wrote:
And I'm fine with a warning or a minor ban for any and all attempts to compare things that don't involve racial cleansing to the Holocaust. Its not helpful, its going to piss people off, and its just going to make any conversation worse, which is a great reason to stomp it out. In that case, you are asking to ban 50% of SC2 posts, nevermind the general political threads. It's just strangely inconsistent. Someone can call for racial cleansing of muslims and as he is a writer, that is fine. But you are ok with a warning or ban to a tangential comparison? To what does a religion or event deserve a special consideration? Is it really simply cultural self importance? If someone on tl is calling for racial cleansing and not getting moderated they didn't get reported and no staff saw it. And despite the presence of most people in this thread, tl holds its posters to a higher standard than other places, so yeah I'm fine with no Holocaust comparisons, especially for stuff like a 3 game mafia ban.
In his defense it was a 4 game ban. He argued it down to 3.
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TLADT24920 Posts
On January 26 2017 06:00 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2017 02:32 LegalLord wrote:On January 25 2017 06:48 Yuljan wrote:On January 25 2017 03:20 Morfildur wrote:On January 25 2017 00:49 OtherWorld wrote:On January 25 2017 00:00 LegalLord wrote:
Germany, of all European countries, seems least likely to have a populist revolution of sorts. But as someone said way upthread, history will not be as kind to Merkel and her leadership as the German electorate is right now. Why ? Germany is still, economically, the strongest European country (by far, even), doubtlessly has the potential to become the strongest military in Europe if they want to, and is also the key holding the EU together. If we look at economic indicators, the unemployment rate was at more than 10% when she took office, in 2005, and is today nearing 4% ; meanwhile, the GDP went up by roughly 30%, average wages went up, etc. By comparison, in France during the same timespan, under 3 different Presidents and 5 different Prime Ministers, unemployment rate went from 8.5% to 10%, and the GDP went up by only 10%. (source : www.tradingeconomics.com) People outside Germany only see the immigrant controversy and don't understand that most Germans are actually fine with refugees and immigrants, so they think Merkel is the root of all evil. Germany took more refugees than any other country and came out stronger while their own countries took the opportunity to blame everything on refugees to avoid actually improving things, e.g. "Oh, unemployment is high, sorry, we can't do anything with all the refugees streaming in. Blame Merkel." And where to you get your inside few that most Germans are fine with it? Having grown up in a multicultural city and worked there until last year when I finally got the chance to say goodbye to Germany, none of the people from my workplace or friends support the immigration policies. Most of the former immigrants too. They are not quite at the level were theyd vote for a right wing party but most of them told me they are planning to leave Germany as well. How did Germany come out stronger from taking in the refugees? Crime rates have surged and most of the refugees will never contribute anything to the country. They are a drain on the whole society and the full impact will only become visible in 10 years. I like how some Germans often portray the world as crazy even though every other country saw the problems this shortsighted and idiotic immigration policy will have. Now they slowly admit to positiones that were labelled right wing/nazi only 1 year ago. To be honest I think the refugees was a major contributor to the rise of populist and right wing parties in the world given that people realized how deluded and shortsighted to current "democratic" (i.e. party oligarchies in the west) governments have become. It definitely was the deciding factor for Brexit. One and a half years ago they said you were crazy if you mentioned theyd be terrorist in the refugees (i.e. the guys fleeing from the syrian army advances - mainly supporters of al-nusra, ISIS and other islamist calling themself the free syrian army). Now we have daily raids on terrorist supporters and I dont even want to count the number of attacks perpetrated by people that came in as refugees. One year ago they said cologne was committed by these bad north africans who just pretend to be refugees. This year a mob of the same men came again and after police controlled them it turned out most of them are syrians. I could go on and on about this topic but I dont blame you for your ignorance. You live in a different world and I truly hope that my fears wont become true and Germany keeps on going as always. I personally have drawn my conclusion having lived in a muslim dominated neighbourhood and also studied in a muslim country for half a year. While I called many of them my friends, I would never want my children to grow up with these people. Islam is the most hateful doctrine in the world and bringing in a mass of young, uneducated islamic men is a recipe for disaster of disproportional impact for the future of my former homeland. A state that does not control its border is not state at all so for me the German government has failed in every possible aspect. While a rebellion in Germany seems unlikely, I wouldnt consider it unjustified. User was temp banned for this post. This one makes me a bit sad. I could instantly see that it was going to get a ban but it was a genuinely insightful post into the frustrations of certain people with troubling developments. No need to beat around the bush: this is a stupid ban and the mod in question should feel ashamed of himself. This ohmygodhecalledislamhatefulwhatanazi mentality may turn out to be the key component in the rise of the fourth reich. At least my jew-related prediction above would then come to reality sooner, even if for a completely different reason. I now we should be cheerful here, but this is alarmingly unfunny. The saddest part is that the people causing the most harm are deeply convinced of doing good. Ironically, the other side that they are nurturing will be convinced of the same when time comes.
I'm not sure if you are trying to be sarcastic so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. If you have problems with the ban, feel free to take it to website feedback. Only thing I'll say here is that while I empathize with his situation, TL is not the place for these types of hateful posts. No one will stop him if he rants all pf this to his inner circle of close friends but TL has rules and his mod history doesn't paint his recent posts in good light either. Not much else to say.
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On January 26 2017 13:46 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2017 06:00 opisska wrote:On January 26 2017 02:32 LegalLord wrote:On January 25 2017 06:48 Yuljan wrote:On January 25 2017 03:20 Morfildur wrote:On January 25 2017 00:49 OtherWorld wrote:On January 25 2017 00:00 LegalLord wrote:
Germany, of all European countries, seems least likely to have a populist revolution of sorts. But as someone said way upthread, history will not be as kind to Merkel and her leadership as the German electorate is right now. Why ? Germany is still, economically, the strongest European country (by far, even), doubtlessly has the potential to become the strongest military in Europe if they want to, and is also the key holding the EU together. If we look at economic indicators, the unemployment rate was at more than 10% when she took office, in 2005, and is today nearing 4% ; meanwhile, the GDP went up by roughly 30%, average wages went up, etc. By comparison, in France during the same timespan, under 3 different Presidents and 5 different Prime Ministers, unemployment rate went from 8.5% to 10%, and the GDP went up by only 10%. (source : www.tradingeconomics.com) People outside Germany only see the immigrant controversy and don't understand that most Germans are actually fine with refugees and immigrants, so they think Merkel is the root of all evil. Germany took more refugees than any other country and came out stronger while their own countries took the opportunity to blame everything on refugees to avoid actually improving things, e.g. "Oh, unemployment is high, sorry, we can't do anything with all the refugees streaming in. Blame Merkel." And where to you get your inside few that most Germans are fine with it? Having grown up in a multicultural city and worked there until last year when I finally got the chance to say goodbye to Germany, none of the people from my workplace or friends support the immigration policies. Most of the former immigrants too. They are not quite at the level were theyd vote for a right wing party but most of them told me they are planning to leave Germany as well. How did Germany come out stronger from taking in the refugees? Crime rates have surged and most of the refugees will never contribute anything to the country. They are a drain on the whole society and the full impact will only become visible in 10 years. I like how some Germans often portray the world as crazy even though every other country saw the problems this shortsighted and idiotic immigration policy will have. Now they slowly admit to positiones that were labelled right wing/nazi only 1 year ago. To be honest I think the refugees was a major contributor to the rise of populist and right wing parties in the world given that people realized how deluded and shortsighted to current "democratic" (i.e. party oligarchies in the west) governments have become. It definitely was the deciding factor for Brexit. One and a half years ago they said you were crazy if you mentioned theyd be terrorist in the refugees (i.e. the guys fleeing from the syrian army advances - mainly supporters of al-nusra, ISIS and other islamist calling themself the free syrian army). Now we have daily raids on terrorist supporters and I dont even want to count the number of attacks perpetrated by people that came in as refugees. One year ago they said cologne was committed by these bad north africans who just pretend to be refugees. This year a mob of the same men came again and after police controlled them it turned out most of them are syrians. I could go on and on about this topic but I dont blame you for your ignorance. You live in a different world and I truly hope that my fears wont become true and Germany keeps on going as always. I personally have drawn my conclusion having lived in a muslim dominated neighbourhood and also studied in a muslim country for half a year. While I called many of them my friends, I would never want my children to grow up with these people. Islam is the most hateful doctrine in the world and bringing in a mass of young, uneducated islamic men is a recipe for disaster of disproportional impact for the future of my former homeland. A state that does not control its border is not state at all so for me the German government has failed in every possible aspect. While a rebellion in Germany seems unlikely, I wouldnt consider it unjustified. User was temp banned for this post. This one makes me a bit sad. I could instantly see that it was going to get a ban but it was a genuinely insightful post into the frustrations of certain people with troubling developments. No need to beat around the bush: this is a stupid ban and the mod in question should feel ashamed of himself. This ohmygodhecalledislamhatefulwhatanazi mentality may turn out to be the key component in the rise of the fourth reich. At least my jew-related prediction above would then come to reality sooner, even if for a completely different reason. I now we should be cheerful here, but this is alarmingly unfunny. The saddest part is that the people causing the most harm are deeply convinced of doing good. Ironically, the other side that they are nurturing will be convinced of the same when time comes. I'm not sure if you are trying to be sarcastic so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. If you have problems with the ban, feel free to take it to website feedback. Only thing I'll say here is that while I empathize with his situation, TL is not the place for these types of hateful posts. No one will stop him if he rants all pf this to his inner circle of close friends but TL has rules and his mod history doesn't paint his recent posts in good light either. Not much else to say.
Yay, website feedback, my favourite part of TL. I haven't been there for a while. So I serve as requested.
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On January 26 2017 10:22 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2017 09:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
link to post calling for racial cleansing of muslims? I too am curious to see this claim.
Come on Plexa, you don't remember the whole "remove kebab" hoo-hah? I don't want to dig up the post and post the quote.
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On January 26 2017 21:35 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2017 10:22 Plexa wrote:On January 26 2017 09:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
link to post calling for racial cleansing of muslims? I too am curious to see this claim. Come on Plexa, you don't remember the whole "remove kebab" hoo-hah? I don't want to dig up the post and post the quote.
not sure why you overstepped me since i made the request. if you are going to make such a bold claim, back it up. otherwise i am going to assume you're full of it.
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