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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 24 2017 20:24 GMT
#57341
You guys dont understand just how bad koshi had it. He got modkilled in game 2 years ago after being warned twice. Clearly he has had too many burdens. He will overcome this.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18123 Posts
January 24 2017 20:35 GMT
#57342
Mafia drama is best drama!
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 24 2017 21:00 GMT
#57343
On January 25 2017 02:55 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2017 18:46 Plexa wrote:
On January 24 2017 10:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
during my trip to plexaland for the next two weeks, i full expect the unread posts to hit the thousands. please dont disappoint ABL.

plexaland? :o

Aotearoa -- you get the honor since i know of no one else from new zealand (and i saw your post right before i posted).


Can confirm. Plexa only person who lives here.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-24 21:14:02
January 24 2017 21:13 GMT
#57344
On January 21 2017 00:53 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 23:08 Dangermousecatdog wrote:

Acrofales what do you find funny about someone pointing out that the banning appers to be unjustified as related to the post he was banned for?

Reading the reason given the mod appears to be banning people based on what appears to be a personal grudge. Having been on the recieving end it's rather unpleasant.

Yes, the mods have ultimate power. Afterall, other users don't have the ability to ban or unban people. We all know that. No one disputes that. Anyways, I don't think this is the place to discuss this.


That's one thing I don't get it - what better place to discuss it than here? On Website feedback I feel like that is an elevated complaint, and one that few if any will see. Here, we are supposed to be discussing bans in the automated ban list, but not supposed to discuss whether we agree with the ban or not? Why?

Anyway, once concession I will make is that context is very important in matters like these - although the posts themselves maybe did not warrant a ban directly, if this was in a thread that would make these posts wildly off-topic and he did it consistently, I can understand that (this is what has been inferred). We've also only seen a handful of posts out of his thousands - what if they are all more or less of this nature? While none being blatantly offensive, if each is abrasive, then the cumulative impact would be worthy of a ban for sure. I had my second account permed for something like this. OR, if as someone said, this poster has said very misogynistic things in the past, then even weak allusions to that in these posts would be referencing a greater offense that was actioned in the past.

That is all speculation in an effort to play devil's advocate with my own stance that those posts in a vacuum weren't ban-worthy. My initial impression is that, as others have said, it was a dogmatic action from the mod. Or that the mod is heavyset. No way of knowing.

Late to the party but Sonningtons use to be a pretty vanilla poster but around 2 years ago he started to consistently start posting flame bait and little value especially in the OT thread on LL. He is very much a portal to unpopular subreddits ie fat people hate, the donald, chooses to ignore things like seeing the Kpop industry as perfect etc.

He was banned because he is a troll; the lounge thread has plenty of trolly comments but he did way to consistently. http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/website-feedback/494741-about-this-warning
http://www.liquidlegends.net/blogs/511892-riots-failed-philosophy-of-egalitarianism#1 Show how he posts. The ban is justified if you go by the commandments but it could as just as easily been seen as ok.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 24 2017 23:40 GMT
#57345
On January 25 2017 02:55 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2017 18:46 Plexa wrote:
On January 24 2017 10:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
during my trip to plexaland for the next two weeks, i full expect the unread posts to hit the thousands. please dont disappoint ABL.

plexaland? :o

Aotearoa -- you get the honor since i know of no one else from new zealand (and i saw your post right before i posted).


Go visit Milford Sound before more mainland Chinese find out about it. lol
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-24 23:53:31
January 24 2017 23:53 GMT
#57346
On January 25 2017 06:00 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 02:55 dAPhREAk wrote:
On January 24 2017 18:46 Plexa wrote:
On January 24 2017 10:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
during my trip to plexaland for the next two weeks, i full expect the unread posts to hit the thousands. please dont disappoint ABL.

plexaland? :o

Aotearoa -- you get the honor since i know of no one else from new zealand (and i saw your post right before i posted).


Can confirm. Plexa only person who lives here.

oh wow, another kiwi. yet, i only know of one sheep on tl.net. the ratio is all off!!! shall we have a tl meetup in NZ? ;-)

On January 25 2017 08:40 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 02:55 dAPhREAk wrote:
On January 24 2017 18:46 Plexa wrote:
On January 24 2017 10:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
during my trip to plexaland for the next two weeks, i full expect the unread posts to hit the thousands. please dont disappoint ABL.

plexaland? :o

Aotearoa -- you get the honor since i know of no one else from new zealand (and i saw your post right before i posted).


Go visit Milford Sound before more mainland Chinese find out about it. lol

will do. going to doubtful and milford.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
January 25 2017 01:36 GMT
#57347
On January 25 2017 02:56 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2017 15:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 24 2017 12:48 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On January 24 2017 10:59 xDaunt wrote:
Goddamn, y'all gossip worse than old ladies.

Hey I said you probably just stepped down or went inactive on writing. Somehow I'm the mature one hear, shocking all #tl-abl regulars current and former. (And anyone who has ever had the misfortune to run into my posting)


mature..pff sure.

At least I never gave one of the most angsty pbus in tl history control of a irc channel


oh yeah super mature.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 25 2017 01:48 GMT
#57348
On January 25 2017 10:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 02:56 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On January 24 2017 15:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 24 2017 12:48 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On January 24 2017 10:59 xDaunt wrote:
Goddamn, y'all gossip worse than old ladies.

Hey I said you probably just stepped down or went inactive on writing. Somehow I'm the mature one hear, shocking all #tl-abl regulars current and former. (And anyone who has ever had the misfortune to run into my posting)


mature..pff sure.

At least I never gave one of the most angsty pbus in tl history control of a irc channel


oh yeah super mature.

what happened? background please!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
January 25 2017 02:33 GMT
#57349
long story short, jdseesmoreglass pretended to be kbb and I made him a chat mod, he proceeded to ban everyone.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 25 2017 03:02 GMT
#57350
Honestly it was a short story short. The only reason it still gets brought up is how bad BR felt about it and how much fun it was poking his buttons about it.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
January 25 2017 03:08 GMT
#57351
On January 25 2017 11:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
long story short, jdseesmoreglass pretended to be kbb and I made him a chat mod, he proceeded to ban everyone.

LOL! That is so freaking funny. Oh how I wish I had been there XD
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 25 2017 03:31 GMT
#57352
On January 25 2017 12:08 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 11:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
long story short, jdseesmoreglass pretended to be kbb and I made him a chat mod, he proceeded to ban everyone.

LOL! That is so freaking funny. Oh how I wish I had been there XD

The best part is that the channel owner was going on vacation, hence Blindedict Rawrnald being granted mod in case it was needed.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 25 2017 06:21 GMT
#57353
On January 25 2017 05:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 04:44 Onegu wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/398116-the-report-function?page=3#47

I posted this over there but I think it should also be posted here so it may be seen.

there are no protected areas of tl.net.

nevertheless, wtf:

Show nested quote +
Go tell the jews that they should stop complaining about what Hitler did.


I wonder how long it will take before this becomes an acceptable metaphor. Because it is eventually gonna happen and then some historians will talk about how backwards people were in the beginning of the 21st century when they persecuted such speech. Oh my, just imagine what if TL will for some reason be the only well-preserved source for our time period at some point in the future - so much to learn about the primitive pre.....whatever society!

(The temptation to start a discussion about how the sentence is actually applicable to certain geopolitical issues is strong, if nothing then for the chance to be banned by a German for that, but I know better )
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 25 2017 12:16 GMT
#57354
On January 25 2017 05:24 iamperfection wrote:
You guys dont understand just how bad koshi had it. He got modkilled in game 2 years ago after being warned twice. Clearly he has had too many burdens. He will overcome this.

#FreeKoshi?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
January 25 2017 13:45 GMT
#57355
On January 25 2017 15:21 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 05:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On January 25 2017 04:44 Onegu wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/398116-the-report-function?page=3#47

I posted this over there but I think it should also be posted here so it may be seen.

there are no protected areas of tl.net.

nevertheless, wtf:

Go tell the jews that they should stop complaining about what Hitler did.


I wonder how long it will take before this becomes an acceptable metaphor. Because it is eventually gonna happen and then some historians will talk about how backwards people were in the beginning of the 21st century when they persecuted such speech. Oh my, just imagine what if TL will for some reason be the only well-preserved source for our time period at some point in the future - so much to learn about the primitive pre.....whatever society!

(The temptation to start a discussion about how the sentence is actually applicable to certain geopolitical issues is strong, if nothing then for the chance to be banned by a German for that, but I know better )


It's pretty amazing that this is the thing that you think people in the future will consider us barbaric for.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 25 2017 17:32 GMT
#57356
On January 25 2017 06:48 Yuljan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 03:20 Morfildur wrote:
On January 25 2017 00:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 25 2017 00:00 LegalLord wrote:
Germany, of all European countries, seems least likely to have a populist revolution of sorts. But as someone said way upthread, history will not be as kind to Merkel and her leadership as the German electorate is right now.

Why ? Germany is still, economically, the strongest European country (by far, even), doubtlessly has the potential to become the strongest military in Europe if they want to, and is also the key holding the EU together. If we look at economic indicators, the unemployment rate was at more than 10% when she took office, in 2005, and is today nearing 4% ; meanwhile, the GDP went up by roughly 30%, average wages went up, etc. By comparison, in France during the same timespan, under 3 different Presidents and 5 different Prime Ministers, unemployment rate went from 8.5% to 10%, and the GDP went up by only 10%.

(source : www.tradingeconomics.com)


People outside Germany only see the immigrant controversy and don't understand that most Germans are actually fine with refugees and immigrants, so they think Merkel is the root of all evil. Germany took more refugees than any other country and came out stronger while their own countries took the opportunity to blame everything on refugees to avoid actually improving things, e.g. "Oh, unemployment is high, sorry, we can't do anything with all the refugees streaming in. Blame Merkel."


And where to you get your inside few that most Germans are fine with it? Having grown up in a multicultural city and worked there until last year when I finally got the chance to say goodbye to Germany, none of the people from my workplace or friends support the immigration policies. Most of the former immigrants too. They are not quite at the level were theyd vote for a right wing party but most of them told me they are planning to leave Germany as well.

How did Germany come out stronger from taking in the refugees? Crime rates have surged and most of the refugees will never contribute anything to the country. They are a drain on the whole society and the full impact will only become visible in 10 years. I like how some Germans often portray the world as crazy even though every other country saw the problems this shortsighted and idiotic immigration policy will have. Now they slowly admit to positiones that were labelled right wing/nazi only 1 year ago. To be honest I think the refugees was a major contributor to the rise of populist and right wing parties in the world given that people realized how deluded and shortsighted to current "democratic" (i.e. party oligarchies in the west) governments have become. It definitely was the deciding factor for Brexit.

One and a half years ago they said you were crazy if you mentioned theyd be terrorist in the refugees (i.e. the guys fleeing from the syrian army advances - mainly supporters of al-nusra, ISIS and other islamist calling themself the free syrian army). Now we have daily raids on terrorist supporters and I dont even want to count the number of attacks perpetrated by people that came in as refugees.

One year ago they said cologne was committed by these bad north africans who just pretend to be refugees. This year a mob of the same men came again and after police controlled them it turned out most of them are syrians.

I could go on and on about this topic but I dont blame you for your ignorance. You live in a different world and I truly hope that my fears wont become true and Germany keeps on going as always. I personally have drawn my conclusion having lived in a muslim dominated neighbourhood and also studied in a muslim country for half a year. While I called many of them my friends, I would never want my children to grow up with these people. Islam is the most hateful doctrine in the world and bringing in a mass of young, uneducated islamic men is a recipe for disaster of disproportional impact for the future of my former homeland. A state that does not control its border is not state at all so for me the German government has failed in every possible aspect. While a rebellion in Germany seems unlikely, I wouldnt consider it unjustified.

User was temp banned for this post.



This one makes me a bit sad. I could instantly see that it was going to get a ban but it was a genuinely insightful post into the frustrations of certain people with troubling developments.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 25 2017 18:41 GMT
#57357
On January 26 2017 02:32 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 06:48 Yuljan wrote:
On January 25 2017 03:20 Morfildur wrote:
On January 25 2017 00:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 25 2017 00:00 LegalLord wrote:
Germany, of all European countries, seems least likely to have a populist revolution of sorts. But as someone said way upthread, history will not be as kind to Merkel and her leadership as the German electorate is right now.

Why ? Germany is still, economically, the strongest European country (by far, even), doubtlessly has the potential to become the strongest military in Europe if they want to, and is also the key holding the EU together. If we look at economic indicators, the unemployment rate was at more than 10% when she took office, in 2005, and is today nearing 4% ; meanwhile, the GDP went up by roughly 30%, average wages went up, etc. By comparison, in France during the same timespan, under 3 different Presidents and 5 different Prime Ministers, unemployment rate went from 8.5% to 10%, and the GDP went up by only 10%.

(source : www.tradingeconomics.com)


People outside Germany only see the immigrant controversy and don't understand that most Germans are actually fine with refugees and immigrants, so they think Merkel is the root of all evil. Germany took more refugees than any other country and came out stronger while their own countries took the opportunity to blame everything on refugees to avoid actually improving things, e.g. "Oh, unemployment is high, sorry, we can't do anything with all the refugees streaming in. Blame Merkel."


And where to you get your inside few that most Germans are fine with it? Having grown up in a multicultural city and worked there until last year when I finally got the chance to say goodbye to Germany, none of the people from my workplace or friends support the immigration policies. Most of the former immigrants too. They are not quite at the level were theyd vote for a right wing party but most of them told me they are planning to leave Germany as well.

How did Germany come out stronger from taking in the refugees? Crime rates have surged and most of the refugees will never contribute anything to the country. They are a drain on the whole society and the full impact will only become visible in 10 years. I like how some Germans often portray the world as crazy even though every other country saw the problems this shortsighted and idiotic immigration policy will have. Now they slowly admit to positiones that were labelled right wing/nazi only 1 year ago. To be honest I think the refugees was a major contributor to the rise of populist and right wing parties in the world given that people realized how deluded and shortsighted to current "democratic" (i.e. party oligarchies in the west) governments have become. It definitely was the deciding factor for Brexit.

One and a half years ago they said you were crazy if you mentioned theyd be terrorist in the refugees (i.e. the guys fleeing from the syrian army advances - mainly supporters of al-nusra, ISIS and other islamist calling themself the free syrian army). Now we have daily raids on terrorist supporters and I dont even want to count the number of attacks perpetrated by people that came in as refugees.

One year ago they said cologne was committed by these bad north africans who just pretend to be refugees. This year a mob of the same men came again and after police controlled them it turned out most of them are syrians.

I could go on and on about this topic but I dont blame you for your ignorance. You live in a different world and I truly hope that my fears wont become true and Germany keeps on going as always. I personally have drawn my conclusion having lived in a muslim dominated neighbourhood and also studied in a muslim country for half a year. While I called many of them my friends, I would never want my children to grow up with these people. Islam is the most hateful doctrine in the world and bringing in a mass of young, uneducated islamic men is a recipe for disaster of disproportional impact for the future of my former homeland. A state that does not control its border is not state at all so for me the German government has failed in every possible aspect. While a rebellion in Germany seems unlikely, I wouldnt consider it unjustified.

User was temp banned for this post.



This one makes me a bit sad. I could instantly see that it was going to get a ban but it was a genuinely insightful post into the frustrations of certain people with troubling developments.

This is a ugly topic. I had so many discussions in my facebook bubble about this.
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-25 20:01:49
January 25 2017 19:52 GMT
#57358
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 25 2017 15:21 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 05:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On January 25 2017 04:44 Onegu wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/398116-the-report-function?page=3#47

I posted this over there but I think it should also be posted here so it may be seen.

there are no protected areas of tl.net.

nevertheless, wtf:

Go tell the jews that they should stop complaining about what Hitler did.


I wonder how long it will take before this becomes an acceptable metaphor. Because it is eventually gonna happen and then some historians will talk about how backwards people were in the beginning of the 21st century when they persecuted such speech. Oh my, just imagine what if TL will for some reason be the only well-preserved source for our time period at some point in the future - so much to learn about the primitive pre.....whatever society!

(The temptation to start a discussion about how the sentence is actually applicable to certain geopolitical issues is strong, if nothing then for the chance to be banned by a German for that, but I know better )

Saying that is advocating for it.. sad to see you so short sighted seeing what you do in real life.

2 days for typing that sentence is lenient and just as bad as what ohhpuisque typed, a kiddie poster asking for it to be changed/more lenient is just as bad. 2 days without tl is not like 2 months (not saying that's what the ban should have been, just that that would be maybe something to ask to be reduced).
Anyway, nice to see people advocating politely for a ban to be shorten, even if it looks ridiculous, it still seems good to see someone ask (leniency for anyone, just because it shows that guy has friends at least).

edit: obvious bait maybe, but not every bait should be ignored, for obvious reasons

BTW hi boxer, when did u decide to come back? i see u got your name back
"not enough rights"
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 25 2017 19:58 GMT
#57359
On January 25 2017 15:21 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 05:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On January 25 2017 04:44 Onegu wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/398116-the-report-function?page=3#47

I posted this over there but I think it should also be posted here so it may be seen.

there are no protected areas of tl.net.

nevertheless, wtf:

Go tell the jews that they should stop complaining about what Hitler did.


I wonder how long it will take before this becomes an acceptable metaphor. Because it is eventually gonna happen and then some historians will talk about how backwards people were in the beginning of the 21st century when they persecuted such speech. Oh my, just imagine what if TL will for some reason be the only well-preserved source for our time period at some point in the future - so much to learn about the primitive pre.....whatever society!

(The temptation to start a discussion about how the sentence is actually applicable to certain geopolitical issues is strong, if nothing then for the chance to be banned by a German for that, but I know better )

+ Show Spoiler +
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 25 2017 21:00 GMT
#57360
On January 26 2017 02:32 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 06:48 Yuljan wrote:
On January 25 2017 03:20 Morfildur wrote:
On January 25 2017 00:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 25 2017 00:00 LegalLord wrote:
Germany, of all European countries, seems least likely to have a populist revolution of sorts. But as someone said way upthread, history will not be as kind to Merkel and her leadership as the German electorate is right now.

Why ? Germany is still, economically, the strongest European country (by far, even), doubtlessly has the potential to become the strongest military in Europe if they want to, and is also the key holding the EU together. If we look at economic indicators, the unemployment rate was at more than 10% when she took office, in 2005, and is today nearing 4% ; meanwhile, the GDP went up by roughly 30%, average wages went up, etc. By comparison, in France during the same timespan, under 3 different Presidents and 5 different Prime Ministers, unemployment rate went from 8.5% to 10%, and the GDP went up by only 10%.

(source : www.tradingeconomics.com)


People outside Germany only see the immigrant controversy and don't understand that most Germans are actually fine with refugees and immigrants, so they think Merkel is the root of all evil. Germany took more refugees than any other country and came out stronger while their own countries took the opportunity to blame everything on refugees to avoid actually improving things, e.g. "Oh, unemployment is high, sorry, we can't do anything with all the refugees streaming in. Blame Merkel."


And where to you get your inside few that most Germans are fine with it? Having grown up in a multicultural city and worked there until last year when I finally got the chance to say goodbye to Germany, none of the people from my workplace or friends support the immigration policies. Most of the former immigrants too. They are not quite at the level were theyd vote for a right wing party but most of them told me they are planning to leave Germany as well.

How did Germany come out stronger from taking in the refugees? Crime rates have surged and most of the refugees will never contribute anything to the country. They are a drain on the whole society and the full impact will only become visible in 10 years. I like how some Germans often portray the world as crazy even though every other country saw the problems this shortsighted and idiotic immigration policy will have. Now they slowly admit to positiones that were labelled right wing/nazi only 1 year ago. To be honest I think the refugees was a major contributor to the rise of populist and right wing parties in the world given that people realized how deluded and shortsighted to current "democratic" (i.e. party oligarchies in the west) governments have become. It definitely was the deciding factor for Brexit.

One and a half years ago they said you were crazy if you mentioned theyd be terrorist in the refugees (i.e. the guys fleeing from the syrian army advances - mainly supporters of al-nusra, ISIS and other islamist calling themself the free syrian army). Now we have daily raids on terrorist supporters and I dont even want to count the number of attacks perpetrated by people that came in as refugees.

One year ago they said cologne was committed by these bad north africans who just pretend to be refugees. This year a mob of the same men came again and after police controlled them it turned out most of them are syrians.

I could go on and on about this topic but I dont blame you for your ignorance. You live in a different world and I truly hope that my fears wont become true and Germany keeps on going as always. I personally have drawn my conclusion having lived in a muslim dominated neighbourhood and also studied in a muslim country for half a year. While I called many of them my friends, I would never want my children to grow up with these people. Islam is the most hateful doctrine in the world and bringing in a mass of young, uneducated islamic men is a recipe for disaster of disproportional impact for the future of my former homeland. A state that does not control its border is not state at all so for me the German government has failed in every possible aspect. While a rebellion in Germany seems unlikely, I wouldnt consider it unjustified.

User was temp banned for this post.



This one makes me a bit sad. I could instantly see that it was going to get a ban but it was a genuinely insightful post into the frustrations of certain people with troubling developments.


No need to beat around the bush: this is a stupid ban and the mod in question should feel ashamed of himself. This ohmygodhecalledislamhatefulwhatanazi mentality may turn out to be the key component in the rise of the fourth reich. At least my jew-related prediction above would then come to reality sooner, even if for a completely different reason.

I now we should be cheerful here, but this is alarmingly unfunny. The saddest part is that the people causing the most harm are deeply convinced of doing good. Ironically, the other side that they are nurturing will be convinced of the same when time comes.
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