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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 07 2016 07:27 GMT
#56521
On November 07 2016 16:13 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't need to cite shit to explain to you that it wouldn't be allowed in any scenario in which it mattered. I just need to not be a complete fucking moron to know that the Supreme Court would never uphold it. They're traditional roles which continue only because they don't fuck up the working of the system. If they fucked it up they'd be slapped back into place.

Show nested quote +
Go home GH, you're drunk.


I mean, this is ordinarily actionable stuff, no?


In a normal thread maybe, but in the US Politics Mega-thread probably not. The first might get a warning if a mod was feeling especially strict.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37114 Posts
November 07 2016 07:35 GMT
#56522
If it's not too much trouble, can you guys link the post so I can see for myself?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44288 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 07:45:09
November 07 2016 07:42 GMT
#56523
On November 07 2016 16:35 Seeker wrote:
If it's not too much trouble, can you guys link the post so I can see for myself?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=5956#119101

GH was arguing that an electoral college voter for Washington could potentially tip the election by being a faithless elector.
On November 07 2016 14:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
Clinton will have 1, maybe 2 less electoral vote than anyone maps up though.

Probably wont make a difference, but if it's the 269-269 scenario she'll actually only get 268.
Then when it was pointed out that he was being absurd, he specified that he was actually referring to only situations in which it wouldn't tip the election, despite first bringing it up to explain how it could and referring to that exact situation.
On November 07 2016 15:46 GreenHorizons wrote:
lol I literally said in the post you quoted I don't think it could be decided by him.
He couldn't even keep track of his own basic premise, instead abandoning it and seeking more defensible ground and insisting that his argument was never actually his argument.

"Go home GH, you're drunk" was about right.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 07 2016 07:42 GMT
#56524
On November 07 2016 16:35 Seeker wrote:
If it's not too much trouble, can you guys link the post so I can see for myself?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=5955#119095

Just KwarK and GreenHorizons sniping at each other as usual.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
November 07 2016 07:45 GMT
#56525
On November 07 2016 16:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 16:35 Seeker wrote:
If it's not too much trouble, can you guys link the post so I can see for myself?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=5955#119095

Just KwarK and GreenHorizons sniping at each other as usual.


Yeah it's just part of the experience. It's a fun a thread.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
November 07 2016 08:34 GMT
#56526
I'll continue to never go into that thread thank you very much. :o
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 07 2016 08:37 GMT
#56527
On November 07 2016 16:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 16:13 Yoav wrote:
I don't need to cite shit to explain to you that it wouldn't be allowed in any scenario in which it mattered. I just need to not be a complete fucking moron to know that the Supreme Court would never uphold it. They're traditional roles which continue only because they don't fuck up the working of the system. If they fucked it up they'd be slapped back into place.

Go home GH, you're drunk.


I mean, this is ordinarily actionable stuff, no?


In a normal thread maybe, but in the US Politics Mega-thread probably not. The first might get a warning if a mod was feeling especially strict.

I dno, we've never been particularly harsh on people calling idiotic stuff out.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
November 07 2016 08:42 GMT
#56528
On November 07 2016 17:37 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 16:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 07 2016 16:13 Yoav wrote:
I don't need to cite shit to explain to you that it wouldn't be allowed in any scenario in which it mattered. I just need to not be a complete fucking moron to know that the Supreme Court would never uphold it. They're traditional roles which continue only because they don't fuck up the working of the system. If they fucked it up they'd be slapped back into place.

Go home GH, you're drunk.


I mean, this is ordinarily actionable stuff, no?


In a normal thread maybe, but in the US Politics Mega-thread probably not. The first might get a warning if a mod was feeling especially strict.

I dno, we've never been particularly harsh on people calling idiotic stuff out.

Isn't idiotic/reasonable very different for different people in us politics? Especially in this cycle I feel...
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
November 07 2016 08:49 GMT
#56529
The word "idiot" describes a malicious or at least faulty context, furthermore it is very much subject to many different outlooks..
everyone is someone's "idjit" at one point or another,
"not enough rights"
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 07 2016 09:02 GMT
#56530
On November 07 2016 17:34 Cascade wrote:
I'll continue to never go into that thread thank you very much. :o


I used to go there, because I follow the topics a lot, but recently the volume has become insane and not being able to follow any conversation is a big deterrent - so recently I mostly read the related website feedback thread, there the volume is about right and the conversation not less fun. Moreover, the thread does all my anti-KwarK propaganda for me, so I have more time to shitpost elsewhere.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14208 Posts
November 07 2016 13:48 GMT
#56531
Us politics thread is basicaly a soap oprea. there are rules but they are useualy ignored and the whole thing is contained so people don't have to talk about it when its not on.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 07 2016 15:07 GMT
#56532
Vandalizing Liquipedia?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37114 Posts
November 07 2016 15:10 GMT
#56533
On November 08 2016 00:07 Ansibled wrote:
Vandalizing Liquipedia?

Yup. It happens from time to time.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 07 2016 16:20 GMT
#56534
On November 07 2016 22:48 Sermokala wrote:
Us politics thread is basicaly a soap oprea. there are rules but they are useualy ignored and the whole thing is contained so people don't have to talk about it when its not on.


we are all very nice* people outside of the thread.

*restrictions apply
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8185 Posts
November 07 2016 18:48 GMT
#56535
On November 07 2016 16:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 16:13 Yoav wrote:
I don't need to cite shit to explain to you that it wouldn't be allowed in any scenario in which it mattered. I just need to not be a complete fucking moron to know that the Supreme Court would never uphold it. They're traditional roles which continue only because they don't fuck up the working of the system. If they fucked it up they'd be slapped back into place.

Go home GH, you're drunk.


I mean, this is ordinarily actionable stuff, no?


In a normal thread maybe, but in the US Politics Mega-thread probably not. The first might get a warning if a mod was feeling especially strict.

Basically everyone in that thread has been warned in the last five pages (I got two in a row for completely unsubstantial posting, can't really argue). Looks like rules have drastically changed in the last 24 hours.

My guess is that mods are simply bracing for impact.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2016 19:00 GMT
#56536
On November 08 2016 03:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 16:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 07 2016 16:13 Yoav wrote:
I don't need to cite shit to explain to you that it wouldn't be allowed in any scenario in which it mattered. I just need to not be a complete fucking moron to know that the Supreme Court would never uphold it. They're traditional roles which continue only because they don't fuck up the working of the system. If they fucked it up they'd be slapped back into place.

Go home GH, you're drunk.


I mean, this is ordinarily actionable stuff, no?


In a normal thread maybe, but in the US Politics Mega-thread probably not. The first might get a warning if a mod was feeling especially strict.

Basically everyone in that thread has been warned in the last five pages (I got two in a row for completely unsubstantial posting, can't really argue). Looks like rules have drastically changed in the last 24 hours.

My guess is that mods are simply bracing for impact.

Making US politics discussion great again!
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 07 2016 19:20 GMT
#56537
On November 08 2016 03:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 16:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 07 2016 16:13 Yoav wrote:
I don't need to cite shit to explain to you that it wouldn't be allowed in any scenario in which it mattered. I just need to not be a complete fucking moron to know that the Supreme Court would never uphold it. They're traditional roles which continue only because they don't fuck up the working of the system. If they fucked it up they'd be slapped back into place.

Go home GH, you're drunk.


I mean, this is ordinarily actionable stuff, no?


In a normal thread maybe, but in the US Politics Mega-thread probably not. The first might get a warning if a mod was feeling especially strict.

Basically everyone in that thread has been warned in the last five pages (I got two in a row for completely unsubstantial posting, can't really argue). Looks like rules have drastically changed in the last 24 hours.

My guess is that mods are simply bracing for impact.


I'm counting mod actions on 3% of posts over the last few days. The weeks before that hovered around 0.25%. My prediction is that the thread can reach 5% in the aftermath of the election.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8185 Posts
November 07 2016 20:54 GMT
#56538
On November 08 2016 04:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 03:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On November 07 2016 16:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 07 2016 16:13 Yoav wrote:
I don't need to cite shit to explain to you that it wouldn't be allowed in any scenario in which it mattered. I just need to not be a complete fucking moron to know that the Supreme Court would never uphold it. They're traditional roles which continue only because they don't fuck up the working of the system. If they fucked it up they'd be slapped back into place.

Go home GH, you're drunk.


I mean, this is ordinarily actionable stuff, no?


In a normal thread maybe, but in the US Politics Mega-thread probably not. The first might get a warning if a mod was feeling especially strict.

Basically everyone in that thread has been warned in the last five pages (I got two in a row for completely unsubstantial posting, can't really argue). Looks like rules have drastically changed in the last 24 hours.

My guess is that mods are simply bracing for impact.


I'm counting mod actions on 3% of posts over the last few days. The weeks before that hovered around 0.25%. My prediction is that the thread can reach 5% in the aftermath of the election.

Geez, that's some ban list science you are pulling here.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4998 Posts
November 07 2016 22:00 GMT
#56539
On November 08 2016 00:10 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 00:07 Ansibled wrote:
Vandalizing Liquipedia?

Yup. It happens from time to time.

Tried to delete a couple pages (unsuccessfully), tried to vandalize the main page, and had a double account. Combining that with both accounts being less than 2 hours old, easy perm ^^
Administrator@FO_nTTaX | FO-nTTaX.de | 0xff0000.dev | Senior Lead Liquipedia Developer
"Nimm es. Es ist nicht viel, aber es kommt von Herzen. Vergiss mich nicht!"
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 07 2016 22:05 GMT
#56540
I tried to change the word "deer" to "beer" on a Wikipedia page and only lasted about 30 minutes. Though they did undo one typo fix I made on some other page so it might have been just automated.

Also I have a friend who was a mod on Wikipedia and knew the system well enough to know how to fabricate stuff and get away with it. A very obscure made up story he made lasted about a week - the longest I've seen an act of Wikipedia vandalism survive.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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