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This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here. Take it to website feedback if you disagree with a ban or want to raise an issue. Keep it civil.NOTE: For those of you who want to find the actual ABL thread where the bans are posted. Please look in here: https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/ |
That thread is pure gold, Ego.
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from liquidpedia:
These are staff that have been recognized for their contributions; they may, as Red Names do, choose their own user icons.
So will we soon see a new icon floating around? My suggestion: Bockwurst.
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On August 09 2013 06:57 blubbdavid wrote:
Well, technically Hot_Bid and sunovbob aren't mods either, they are admins. But I guess I am just nitpicking here. What caused his rage?
Do we get money if we join the TL- forum?
He's not an admin either.
EDIT: Oh shit grats Kadaver <3
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Damn KadaverBB rising in ranks. In 2 years he will be an admin, and in 4 there will only be Kadaver.
Feels like yesterday that he became a banling.
On November 29 2012 20:08 KadaverBB wrote:Okay now i am curious  I would like to know my stats as well.
Or it was almost a year.
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On August 09 2013 07:14 AlternativeEgo wrote:Hey look, Kadaver is a boy in blue
OH THIS IS WHAT HE GOT NUKED FOR
I seriously thought he got perma'd for bragging about TL+ LOL
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On August 09 2013 06:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 09 2013 06:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:SlowBullets was just banned by Empyrean.
That account was created on 2011-12-26 15:58:55 and had 836 posts.
Reason: Martyr. My favorite part about TL+ elitists is how mad they get when you don't think it's a big deal. We don't get mad at TL- -ers. We just feel pity for you guys. Nonono, TL regular is not TL-, TL- is where permabanned users are I still want a TL- forum
Cage fights with permabanned users. Lock them in a forum and throw all sorts of horrible online tasks at them to deal with, while other users poke them and prod them at will. TL+ users determine if they stay (redemption of sorts; incentive to get and keep them online) or keep them permabanned.
...Dude. This could work. :-o
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On August 09 2013 08:51 cLAN.Anax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 06:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On August 09 2013 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 09 2013 06:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:SlowBullets was just banned by Empyrean.
That account was created on 2011-12-26 15:58:55 and had 836 posts.
Reason: Martyr. My favorite part about TL+ elitists is how mad they get when you don't think it's a big deal. We don't get mad at TL- -ers. We just feel pity for you guys. Nonono, TL regular is not TL-, TL- is where permabanned users are I still want a TL- forum Cage fights with permabanned users. Lock them in a forum and throw all sorts of horrible online tasks at them to deal with, while other users poke them and prod them at will. TL+ users determine if they stay (redemption of sorts; incentive to get and keep them online) or keep them permabanned. ...Dude. This could work. :-o
I'm pretty sure a certain PBU already made that site lol.
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On August 09 2013 09:06 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 08:51 cLAN.Anax wrote:On August 09 2013 06:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On August 09 2013 06:54 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 09 2013 06:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:SlowBullets was just banned by Empyrean.
That account was created on 2011-12-26 15:58:55 and had 836 posts.
Reason: Martyr. My favorite part about TL+ elitists is how mad they get when you don't think it's a big deal. We don't get mad at TL- -ers. We just feel pity for you guys. Nonono, TL regular is not TL-, TL- is where permabanned users are I still want a TL- forum Cage fights with permabanned users. Lock them in a forum and throw all sorts of horrible online tasks at them to deal with, while other users poke them and prod them at will. TL+ users determine if they stay (redemption of sorts; incentive to get and keep them online) or keep them permabanned. ...Dude. This could work. :-o I'm pretty sure a certain PBU already made that site lol.
The problem is we have no jurisdiction over there. 
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On August 09 2013 07:14 AlternativeEgo wrote:Hey look, Kadaver is a boy in blue
for some reason I laughed at "too insecure to pee standing up in a public bathroom"
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On August 09 2013 11:32 Roe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 07:14 AlternativeEgo wrote:Hey look, Kadaver is a boy in blue for some reason I laughed at "too insecure to pee standing up in a public bathroom"
Is it so wrong to prefer to sit?
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first tl+ user to get permbanned.
can an admin answer this: how much time did he have left on tl+?
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On August 09 2013 12:07 dAPhREAk wrote:
first tl+ user to get permbanned.
can an admin answer this: how much time did he have left on tl+?
I'd laugh if he just got it, made the brag blog, then got on the TL+ forum and saw all the mods being themselves, then just raged and got banned on the spot.
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SKTelecomT1Rain was just banned by KadaverBB.
That account was created on 2013-04-21 04:06:54 and had 17 posts.
Reason: PBU
ABL is killing eSports. 
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On August 09 2013 12:41 cLAN.Anax wrote:Show nested quote +SKTelecomT1Rain was just banned by KadaverBB.
That account was created on 2013-04-21 04:06:54 and had 17 posts.
Reason: PBU ABL is killing eSports.
Rain should stop hating on the Japanese on the forums and start practicing for OSL imo
On August 09 2013 10:14 SKTelecomT1Rain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:10 {ToT}ColmA wrote:On August 09 2013 10:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Oh god I hope Jim wins because then he can all in Jaedong out of WCS in the Ro8 u r a bad bot, shame on u shame on u fucking japanese all piece of shit User was banned for this post.
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is it wrong that I find it pretty fun to read
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On August 09 2013 13:18 Arceus wrote:is it wrong that I find it pretty fun to read
That's so 'My name is John and i hate every single of you' kind of thing.
To quote Frank Zappa: "Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not."
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On August 09 2013 15:43 F.O.A.D. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 15:34 saddaromma wrote:On August 09 2013 15:23 Gonzo103 wrote:On August 09 2013 15:16 Patate wrote:On August 09 2013 14:50 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 14:47 saddaromma wrote:On August 09 2013 14:35 Erik.TheRed wrote:On August 09 2013 14:22 saddaromma wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eUaZdrp.png) Picture tells the tales, even if you omit dota 2 due to international. SC2 has low entertainment value, therefore fewer viewers and less sponsors. Its only up to Blizzard if they want the game to be succesful. They have to do something asap. 1. Fire Dustin Browder and David Kim. 2. Hire new team and redesign SC2's multiplayer. The best candidates are people who make best maps and who have better understanding of what community/viewer needs. And remember: action is always better than noaction Holy fuck when will these crap-quality posts stop coming in? You realize that there are probably a LOT of SC2 fans watching TI3 right now? There isn't ANY SC2 tournament going on and not a ton of big people streaming either. Please try and use a little common sense before posting a random screenshot and using it as the backbone of your ludicrous argument. Also... Low entertainment value? Did you watch any of WCS this week? There were a bunch of great games, why don't you watch Grubby vs Hasuobs if you don't believe me. Edit: Of course SC2 isn't a perfect game, but how does demanding that Dustin Browder and David Kim get fired seem like a reasonable/realistic argument and does it really solve any of the current problems? Blizzard is more than just 2 people and AFAIK the game balance is doing fairly well (Kim's main job) and the game design is still being tweaked and developed for the future (LOTV is in development). is that what wanted from sc2 when it was announced, pathetic 4k viewers when no tournaments are going on? If players are retiring, teams disbanding, viewership is falling and tournaments are shutting down you can get general idea that scene is declining. Or you can keep on lying to yourself that everything is ok. DB and DK did a pretty bad job, remember bl/infestors, warhounds, helbats? All their changes are temporal bandages until the game is dumbed down to one-dimensional strategies. WCS is huge, plenty of players still making some money streaming, lots of other content. I don't see any cause for alarm. You sir are in denial. As I'm writting this, the biggest featured sc2 streamer gets less than 1k viewer ( dragon at 955). The biggest LoL streamer atm is TSM's mid laner with almost 8000 viewers. This is considerably low, especially since TI3 is going on, which is a moba (LoL's direct competition).Most of the time, you will see Phantomlord, or Dyrus, or Wingsofdeathx with around 20k viewers. Every weekend (friday-saturday-sunday) LCS EU and then LCS NA get up to 130k viewers.. EVERY DAY THAT THEY'RE ON. That is to say just how much sc2 streams are empty. I hear people talking about maps.. truth of the matter is, maps barely make a difference in this game. Considering a 200 food army can get through a tiny passage just as fast as they can move on an open field, the only aspect of the map that is important is the rush distance, and the expands set-up. It will take a lot more than that to actually fix the game and make it watchable. First of all, the macro part of the game is just too damn fast: in 10 blizzard minutes, a zerg gets maxed out... where does that leave time for small engagements and clever harassments (corsair killing overlords in BW, for example)? Then the armies move just too damn well: it is just so easy to push an advantage to a win. Take LoL for example ( i don't know DoTA2 enough but I do know its even more pronounced than in LoL), even if you Ace the enemy team in the early to mid game, the best advantage you can get (considering their nexus are not open to be destroyed), is 1 or 2 turrets, maybe a baron buff, or their blue-red buffs. Yes you get gold advantage, yes you get some free farm, but the game is not over for the enemy team.. comebacks happen very often. In BW, a battle win didn't mean a game win, it meant that you could destroy an expand, or secure another base (and base income saturation was better done too, but let's not go there). In SC2, if you win a fight, you can almost certainly snowball it into a win. There is something fundamentally wrong in a strategy game when a 20 minutes game is decided in a 30 seconds fight. I remeber a lot of games where your statment is true on, but i also know a lot of games where it´s not true! There are a lot of games with back and forward action over a long period of time. They might be rare but they can happen. Thats the problem, its rare, I'm not in denial, I admit that there some exceptionally good games in SC2 (Nestea vs sC). But if we want sc2 to be succesful, good games should happen far more often. PvP is so far only matchup I like to watch. Any mu with Zerg in it sucks anymore. If it isn't an all-in vT, then it's just the Z slowly dying to M/M/M/WM, unless the T-player is vastly inferior. Yeah those M/M/M/WM v. Muta/Ling/Bane engagements can get pretty tense, but anymore it seems inevitable that the Z will eventually fold. Roach/Hydra/Corruptor balls are boring as shit. And don't even get me started on Swarm Hosts -.-.zZ User was temp banned for this post.
F.O.A.D. was just temp banned for 1 week by JBright.
That account was created on 2013-07-11 08:47:21 and had 95 posts.
Reason: Looks like you didn't get the message last time. You come off a ban and go into a thread that has nothing to do with balance and whine about game design.
Seems like we are talking about this guy every 10 pages or something.
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On August 09 2013 17:41 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 15:43 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 09 2013 15:34 saddaromma wrote:On August 09 2013 15:23 Gonzo103 wrote:On August 09 2013 15:16 Patate wrote:On August 09 2013 14:50 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 14:47 saddaromma wrote:On August 09 2013 14:35 Erik.TheRed wrote:On August 09 2013 14:22 saddaromma wrote:Picture tells the tales, even if you omit dota 2 due to international. SC2 has low entertainment value, therefore fewer viewers and less sponsors. Its only up to Blizzard if they want the game to be succesful. They have to do something asap. 1. Fire Dustin Browder and David Kim. 2. Hire new team and redesign SC2's multiplayer. The best candidates are people who make best maps and who have better understanding of what community/viewer needs. And remember: action is always better than noaction Holy fuck when will these crap-quality posts stop coming in? You realize that there are probably a LOT of SC2 fans watching TI3 right now? There isn't ANY SC2 tournament going on and not a ton of big people streaming either. Please try and use a little common sense before posting a random screenshot and using it as the backbone of your ludicrous argument. Also... Low entertainment value? Did you watch any of WCS this week? There were a bunch of great games, why don't you watch Grubby vs Hasuobs if you don't believe me. Edit: Of course SC2 isn't a perfect game, but how does demanding that Dustin Browder and David Kim get fired seem like a reasonable/realistic argument and does it really solve any of the current problems? Blizzard is more than just 2 people and AFAIK the game balance is doing fairly well (Kim's main job) and the game design is still being tweaked and developed for the future (LOTV is in development). is that what wanted from sc2 when it was announced, pathetic 4k viewers when no tournaments are going on? If players are retiring, teams disbanding, viewership is falling and tournaments are shutting down you can get general idea that scene is declining. Or you can keep on lying to yourself that everything is ok. DB and DK did a pretty bad job, remember bl/infestors, warhounds, helbats? All their changes are temporal bandages until the game is dumbed down to one-dimensional strategies. WCS is huge, plenty of players still making some money streaming, lots of other content. I don't see any cause for alarm. You sir are in denial. As I'm writting this, the biggest featured sc2 streamer gets less than 1k viewer ( dragon at 955). The biggest LoL streamer atm is TSM's mid laner with almost 8000 viewers. This is considerably low, especially since TI3 is going on, which is a moba (LoL's direct competition).Most of the time, you will see Phantomlord, or Dyrus, or Wingsofdeathx with around 20k viewers. Every weekend (friday-saturday-sunday) LCS EU and then LCS NA get up to 130k viewers.. EVERY DAY THAT THEY'RE ON. That is to say just how much sc2 streams are empty. I hear people talking about maps.. truth of the matter is, maps barely make a difference in this game. Considering a 200 food army can get through a tiny passage just as fast as they can move on an open field, the only aspect of the map that is important is the rush distance, and the expands set-up. It will take a lot more than that to actually fix the game and make it watchable. First of all, the macro part of the game is just too damn fast: in 10 blizzard minutes, a zerg gets maxed out... where does that leave time for small engagements and clever harassments (corsair killing overlords in BW, for example)? Then the armies move just too damn well: it is just so easy to push an advantage to a win. Take LoL for example ( i don't know DoTA2 enough but I do know its even more pronounced than in LoL), even if you Ace the enemy team in the early to mid game, the best advantage you can get (considering their nexus are not open to be destroyed), is 1 or 2 turrets, maybe a baron buff, or their blue-red buffs. Yes you get gold advantage, yes you get some free farm, but the game is not over for the enemy team.. comebacks happen very often. In BW, a battle win didn't mean a game win, it meant that you could destroy an expand, or secure another base (and base income saturation was better done too, but let's not go there). In SC2, if you win a fight, you can almost certainly snowball it into a win. There is something fundamentally wrong in a strategy game when a 20 minutes game is decided in a 30 seconds fight. I remeber a lot of games where your statment is true on, but i also know a lot of games where it´s not true! There are a lot of games with back and forward action over a long period of time. They might be rare but they can happen. Thats the problem, its rare, I'm not in denial, I admit that there some exceptionally good games in SC2 (Nestea vs sC). But if we want sc2 to be succesful, good games should happen far more often. PvP is so far only matchup I like to watch. Any mu with Zerg in it sucks anymore. If it isn't an all-in vT, then it's just the Z slowly dying to M/M/M/WM, unless the T-player is vastly inferior. Yeah those M/M/M/WM v. Muta/Ling/Bane engagements can get pretty tense, but anymore it seems inevitable that the Z will eventually fold. Roach/Hydra/Corruptor balls are boring as shit. And don't even get me started on Swarm Hosts -.-.zZ User was temp banned for this post. Show nested quote +F.O.A.D. was just temp banned for 1 week by JBright.
That account was created on 2013-07-11 08:47:21 and had 95 posts.
Reason: Looks like you didn't get the message last time. You come off a ban and go into a thread that has nothing to do with balance and whine about game design. Seems like we are talking about this guy every 10 pages or something.
That's an interesting use of 'anymore' in the banned post ("...anymore it seems..."). 'Anymore' is one of a number of English words that has a complicated syntax requiring that it appear under the scope of words with a negative valence, such as "It does not seem inevitable anymore that Z will eventually fold". It doesn't have to be negation though. "I doubt he'll come around here anymore" is fine, but "I hope he'll come around here anymore" is not.
Nobody is explicitly taught any of this, instead just picking it up naturally. It's hard to imagine a native speaker making the mistake, which is a bit odd since F.O.A.D lists Canada (though immigration is obviously a possibility).
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On August 09 2013 17:41 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 15:43 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 09 2013 15:34 saddaromma wrote:On August 09 2013 15:23 Gonzo103 wrote:On August 09 2013 15:16 Patate wrote:On August 09 2013 14:50 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 14:47 saddaromma wrote:On August 09 2013 14:35 Erik.TheRed wrote:On August 09 2013 14:22 saddaromma wrote:Picture tells the tales, even if you omit dota 2 due to international. SC2 has low entertainment value, therefore fewer viewers and less sponsors. Its only up to Blizzard if they want the game to be succesful. They have to do something asap. 1. Fire Dustin Browder and David Kim. 2. Hire new team and redesign SC2's multiplayer. The best candidates are people who make best maps and who have better understanding of what community/viewer needs. And remember: action is always better than noaction Holy fuck when will these crap-quality posts stop coming in? You realize that there are probably a LOT of SC2 fans watching TI3 right now? There isn't ANY SC2 tournament going on and not a ton of big people streaming either. Please try and use a little common sense before posting a random screenshot and using it as the backbone of your ludicrous argument. Also... Low entertainment value? Did you watch any of WCS this week? There were a bunch of great games, why don't you watch Grubby vs Hasuobs if you don't believe me. Edit: Of course SC2 isn't a perfect game, but how does demanding that Dustin Browder and David Kim get fired seem like a reasonable/realistic argument and does it really solve any of the current problems? Blizzard is more than just 2 people and AFAIK the game balance is doing fairly well (Kim's main job) and the game design is still being tweaked and developed for the future (LOTV is in development). is that what wanted from sc2 when it was announced, pathetic 4k viewers when no tournaments are going on? If players are retiring, teams disbanding, viewership is falling and tournaments are shutting down you can get general idea that scene is declining. Or you can keep on lying to yourself that everything is ok. DB and DK did a pretty bad job, remember bl/infestors, warhounds, helbats? All their changes are temporal bandages until the game is dumbed down to one-dimensional strategies. WCS is huge, plenty of players still making some money streaming, lots of other content. I don't see any cause for alarm. You sir are in denial. As I'm writting this, the biggest featured sc2 streamer gets less than 1k viewer ( dragon at 955). The biggest LoL streamer atm is TSM's mid laner with almost 8000 viewers. This is considerably low, especially since TI3 is going on, which is a moba (LoL's direct competition).Most of the time, you will see Phantomlord, or Dyrus, or Wingsofdeathx with around 20k viewers. Every weekend (friday-saturday-sunday) LCS EU and then LCS NA get up to 130k viewers.. EVERY DAY THAT THEY'RE ON. That is to say just how much sc2 streams are empty. I hear people talking about maps.. truth of the matter is, maps barely make a difference in this game. Considering a 200 food army can get through a tiny passage just as fast as they can move on an open field, the only aspect of the map that is important is the rush distance, and the expands set-up. It will take a lot more than that to actually fix the game and make it watchable. First of all, the macro part of the game is just too damn fast: in 10 blizzard minutes, a zerg gets maxed out... where does that leave time for small engagements and clever harassments (corsair killing overlords in BW, for example)? Then the armies move just too damn well: it is just so easy to push an advantage to a win. Take LoL for example ( i don't know DoTA2 enough but I do know its even more pronounced than in LoL), even if you Ace the enemy team in the early to mid game, the best advantage you can get (considering their nexus are not open to be destroyed), is 1 or 2 turrets, maybe a baron buff, or their blue-red buffs. Yes you get gold advantage, yes you get some free farm, but the game is not over for the enemy team.. comebacks happen very often. In BW, a battle win didn't mean a game win, it meant that you could destroy an expand, or secure another base (and base income saturation was better done too, but let's not go there). In SC2, if you win a fight, you can almost certainly snowball it into a win. There is something fundamentally wrong in a strategy game when a 20 minutes game is decided in a 30 seconds fight. I remeber a lot of games where your statment is true on, but i also know a lot of games where it´s not true! There are a lot of games with back and forward action over a long period of time. They might be rare but they can happen. Thats the problem, its rare, I'm not in denial, I admit that there some exceptionally good games in SC2 (Nestea vs sC). But if we want sc2 to be succesful, good games should happen far more often. PvP is so far only matchup I like to watch. Any mu with Zerg in it sucks anymore. If it isn't an all-in vT, then it's just the Z slowly dying to M/M/M/WM, unless the T-player is vastly inferior. Yeah those M/M/M/WM v. Muta/Ling/Bane engagements can get pretty tense, but anymore it seems inevitable that the Z will eventually fold. Roach/Hydra/Corruptor balls are boring as shit. And don't even get me started on Swarm Hosts -.-.zZ User was temp banned for this post. Show nested quote +F.O.A.D. was just temp banned for 1 week by JBright.
That account was created on 2013-07-11 08:47:21 and had 95 posts.
Reason: Looks like you didn't get the message last time. You come off a ban and go into a thread that has nothing to do with balance and whine about game design. Seems like we are talking about this guy every 10 pages or something.
I really wish that his inevitable perma-ban-worthy offense is severe enough to warrant the ban reason "F.O.A.D.".
That would be pretty funny.
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On August 09 2013 18:00 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 17:41 Cokefreak wrote:On August 09 2013 15:43 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 09 2013 15:34 saddaromma wrote:On August 09 2013 15:23 Gonzo103 wrote:On August 09 2013 15:16 Patate wrote:On August 09 2013 14:50 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 14:47 saddaromma wrote:On August 09 2013 14:35 Erik.TheRed wrote:On August 09 2013 14:22 saddaromma wrote:Picture tells the tales, even if you omit dota 2 due to international. SC2 has low entertainment value, therefore fewer viewers and less sponsors. Its only up to Blizzard if they want the game to be succesful. They have to do something asap. 1. Fire Dustin Browder and David Kim. 2. Hire new team and redesign SC2's multiplayer. The best candidates are people who make best maps and who have better understanding of what community/viewer needs. And remember: action is always better than noaction Holy fuck when will these crap-quality posts stop coming in? You realize that there are probably a LOT of SC2 fans watching TI3 right now? There isn't ANY SC2 tournament going on and not a ton of big people streaming either. Please try and use a little common sense before posting a random screenshot and using it as the backbone of your ludicrous argument. Also... Low entertainment value? Did you watch any of WCS this week? There were a bunch of great games, why don't you watch Grubby vs Hasuobs if you don't believe me. Edit: Of course SC2 isn't a perfect game, but how does demanding that Dustin Browder and David Kim get fired seem like a reasonable/realistic argument and does it really solve any of the current problems? Blizzard is more than just 2 people and AFAIK the game balance is doing fairly well (Kim's main job) and the game design is still being tweaked and developed for the future (LOTV is in development). is that what wanted from sc2 when it was announced, pathetic 4k viewers when no tournaments are going on? If players are retiring, teams disbanding, viewership is falling and tournaments are shutting down you can get general idea that scene is declining. Or you can keep on lying to yourself that everything is ok. DB and DK did a pretty bad job, remember bl/infestors, warhounds, helbats? All their changes are temporal bandages until the game is dumbed down to one-dimensional strategies. WCS is huge, plenty of players still making some money streaming, lots of other content. I don't see any cause for alarm. You sir are in denial. As I'm writting this, the biggest featured sc2 streamer gets less than 1k viewer ( dragon at 955). The biggest LoL streamer atm is TSM's mid laner with almost 8000 viewers. This is considerably low, especially since TI3 is going on, which is a moba (LoL's direct competition).Most of the time, you will see Phantomlord, or Dyrus, or Wingsofdeathx with around 20k viewers. Every weekend (friday-saturday-sunday) LCS EU and then LCS NA get up to 130k viewers.. EVERY DAY THAT THEY'RE ON. That is to say just how much sc2 streams are empty. I hear people talking about maps.. truth of the matter is, maps barely make a difference in this game. Considering a 200 food army can get through a tiny passage just as fast as they can move on an open field, the only aspect of the map that is important is the rush distance, and the expands set-up. It will take a lot more than that to actually fix the game and make it watchable. First of all, the macro part of the game is just too damn fast: in 10 blizzard minutes, a zerg gets maxed out... where does that leave time for small engagements and clever harassments (corsair killing overlords in BW, for example)? Then the armies move just too damn well: it is just so easy to push an advantage to a win. Take LoL for example ( i don't know DoTA2 enough but I do know its even more pronounced than in LoL), even if you Ace the enemy team in the early to mid game, the best advantage you can get (considering their nexus are not open to be destroyed), is 1 or 2 turrets, maybe a baron buff, or their blue-red buffs. Yes you get gold advantage, yes you get some free farm, but the game is not over for the enemy team.. comebacks happen very often. In BW, a battle win didn't mean a game win, it meant that you could destroy an expand, or secure another base (and base income saturation was better done too, but let's not go there). In SC2, if you win a fight, you can almost certainly snowball it into a win. There is something fundamentally wrong in a strategy game when a 20 minutes game is decided in a 30 seconds fight. I remeber a lot of games where your statment is true on, but i also know a lot of games where it´s not true! There are a lot of games with back and forward action over a long period of time. They might be rare but they can happen. Thats the problem, its rare, I'm not in denial, I admit that there some exceptionally good games in SC2 (Nestea vs sC). But if we want sc2 to be succesful, good games should happen far more often. PvP is so far only matchup I like to watch. Any mu with Zerg in it sucks anymore. If it isn't an all-in vT, then it's just the Z slowly dying to M/M/M/WM, unless the T-player is vastly inferior. Yeah those M/M/M/WM v. Muta/Ling/Bane engagements can get pretty tense, but anymore it seems inevitable that the Z will eventually fold. Roach/Hydra/Corruptor balls are boring as shit. And don't even get me started on Swarm Hosts -.-.zZ User was temp banned for this post. F.O.A.D. was just temp banned for 1 week by JBright.
That account was created on 2013-07-11 08:47:21 and had 95 posts.
Reason: Looks like you didn't get the message last time. You come off a ban and go into a thread that has nothing to do with balance and whine about game design. Seems like we are talking about this guy every 10 pages or something. I really wish that his inevitable perma-ban-worthy offense is severe enough to warrant the ban reason "F.O.A.D.". That would be pretty funny.
Don't worry CokeFreak i think you will not talk about him very long.
Also Yoshi KadaverBlue. Wtf ?
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