EPTMusic Theory Primer: Part I - Page 4
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CecilSunkure
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RoieTRS
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Like I can be a PhD in mathematics but it won't be impressive until I can do some indepth insight for a business or something. | ||
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nimbim
Germany983 Posts
On April 08 2013 15:54 RoieTRS wrote: It's not impressive until you show us some kind of trick that you can explain with the theory. Like I can be a PhD in mathematics but it won't be impressive until I can do some indepth insight for a business or something. I don't quite get to whom you are talking about what? Music theory has no tricks. You can only go more in-depth or decide which classical rules you don't like and ignore them. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On April 08 2013 15:54 RoieTRS wrote: It's not impressive until you show us some kind of trick that you can explain with the theory. Like I can be a PhD in mathematics but it won't be impressive until I can do some indepth insight for a business or something. Without knowing the theory, a composition will look arbitrary to you. With knowledge, you see what the composer actually has written. It is a bit like seeing letters versus understanding the language. With knowledge of music, you know how to create tension and release, so you can create nice effects in your piece. You know how you can express yourself through music. It is not just writing down a melody you have in your head. | ||
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sharkeyanti
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
On April 09 2013 02:48 [F_]aths wrote: Without knowing the theory, a composition will look arbitrary to you. With knowledge, you see what the composer actually has written. It is a bit like seeing letters versus understanding the language. With knowledge of music, you know how to create tension and release, so you can create nice effects in your piece. You know how you can express yourself through music. It is not just writing down a melody you have in your head. I major in music. I can write down the fundementals of garchenspoosh but if I don't show the purpose of studying garchenspoosh you get some longwinded useless piece of info like this OP. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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urSa
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TangSC
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blacksheepwall
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SchfiftyFive
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On April 13 2013 16:47 SchfiftyFive wrote: As a full sail student its really nice to have so much MTH knowledge on one giant post. The full sail resources are nice but its individual sections. I struggle with intervals personally, this enlightened me a little bit. I will definetly try to spread the word to my classmates and Music Production staff as an external resource. In this regard I have a slight critique regarding the article. It does not tell much about how intervals sound. And why unison, octave, fifth and fourth perfect are intervals while the others come in two versions. And what the pitch relationships of those intervals are. Of course the primer is already very large and one can guess that the next parts will be going deeper into intervals. I like to praise the introduction into rhythm. Music is not only about which notes to play, but also when and how. Tempo and rhythm is very important. | ||
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MichaelDonovan
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Deleted User 135096
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On April 14 2013 05:18 MichaelDonovan wrote: Have you considered writing textbooks? You might be able to make some money. Thanks for the kind words, but I would have to do so much more work in order to feel competent in doing so, at least in this specific arena. I have occasionally mused on the idea of writing or working in other areas though where I would be considered more of an expert by my peers. I did want to mention that I decided that I would add audio examples to this initial piece, but I'm entirely too busy at this current juncture to really tackle this properly. Hopefully sooner rather than later, but I need to attend to other tasks first. | ||
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Uzee13
United States17 Posts
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Uzee13
United States17 Posts
On April 13 2013 16:47 SchfiftyFive wrote: As a full sail student its really nice to have so much MTH knowledge on one giant post. The full sail resources are nice but its individual sections. I struggle with intervals personally, this enlightened me a little bit. I will definetly try to spread the word to my classmates and Music Production staff as an external resource. Hey, is there a place I could message you about Full Sail? I'm considering going there for Music Production. | ||
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
On April 13 2013 16:47 SchfiftyFive wrote: As a full sail student its really nice to have so much MTH knowledge on one giant post. The full sail resources are nice but its individual sections. I struggle with intervals personally, this enlightened me a little bit. I will definetly try to spread the word to my classmates and Music Production staff as an external resource. If you are having trouble with intervals, I'd suggest practicing at musictheory [dot] net if you haven't already. Simple tools, just practice like 10-20 minutes a day. | ||
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Deleted User 135096
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On April 23 2013 13:08 sharkeyanti wrote: If you are having trouble with intervals, I'd suggest practicing at musictheory [dot] net if you haven't already. Simple tools, just practice like 10-20 minutes a day. The aural skills tools are about the only thing on that website that I could honestly recommend to anyone. They are good for listening and drilling basics of interval and pitch identifications, but If you wanted to really learn theory properly they make really obvious mistakes or omit incredibly important materials all the time. Also somewhat related, I have yet to find a good online tool for drilling chord progressions as well, most are either really basic, or use bizarre progressions (substitutions, incorrect functions of chords) in tonal harmony which entirely negates any effectiveness of what it's trying to teach in the first place. | ||
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
On April 24 2013 07:55 wo1fwood wrote: The aural skills tools are about the only thing on that website that I could honestly recommend to anyone. They are good for listening and drilling basics of interval and pitch identifications, but If you wanted to really learn theory properly they make really obvious mistakes or omit incredibly important materials all the time. Also somewhat related, I have yet to find a good online tool for drilling chord progressions as well, most are either really basic, or use bizarre progressions (substitutions, incorrect functions of chords) in tonal harmony which entirely negates any effectiveness of what it's trying to teach in the first place. Agreed, use mainly for intervals. It's not something one should use to learn the whole topic. As to chord progressions, I think I've only ever had a teacher play it live for quizzes and whatnot. Again, another thing that is learned better by doing and slowly figuring out. Maybe we should just start an Oxford debate, wo1fwood. | ||
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Dworkin
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Any harpists on TL by any chance? | ||
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LyE
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