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On December 19 2011 12:25 adrenaLinG wrote:
You guys just gave definitions of camping that just contradicted each other. It's not really a surprise/advantageous situation if you're going to their home and sitting there for hours.
We never do this. Except camping does actually happen...but more of a random occurrence that we're fighting on a gate, then slowly ships just jump into us continuously, and we might as well kill them as well
On December 19 2011 12:25 adrenaLinG wrote:
And even in "roams" you have intel and scouts ahead of the gang, so that in itself is an advantageous situation as well.
Everyone attempting pvp in eve has scouts.
On December 19 2011 12:25 adrenaLinG wrote:
I never said anything about empire being bad and pros only living in 0.0. All corps start somewhere, even the hatchery started in empire. It's not an "outright retarded" line of thought to say that 0.0 has things that matter. You can be in low-sec space and have an amazing corporation with talented PvP pilots. And if you're killing larger gangs with a smaller gang of crappier ships, you are superior PvP pilots. But there's more to the game than that.
This is true, we also do manufacturing, missioning, probing, playing the market, it all depends on what the players want to do. We want people to do things they want in the game, with their actual instruction in PvP coming from us.
On December 19 2011 12:25 adrenaLinG wrote:
And I don't see the aversion to 0.0 space because holding space doesn't threaten any of your PvP objectives, especially if it helps newbies become independent and not have to mooch for spaceships and fittings constantly. PvP is fun, but I like other things, too.
0.0 Space is actually not good, any money generator in 0.0 can be matched and/or exceeded by lowsec and highsec. If you'd like an example, please ask.
On December 19 2011 12:25 adrenaLinG wrote:
But an elitist attitude to Eve about being superior pilots to "null alliance members" is certainly a thing to take away, like the TL posters from the BW era that complained about the flood of SC2 "newbies".
That's not really a valid comparison to this situation. But I'll see if I can't tackle it. Let's say you're in a nullsec pvp group. I would postulate that the larger the group, the more pilots fall under the "target and f1, rely on logi pilots and maybe one or two guys that actually know what's going on"; our style forces each pilot to take care of themselves, while following orders. This gives our entire fleet the ability to fight larger fleets, as to quote 300: "I've brought more soldiers than you."
Does this help?
Edit: I accidentally the spelling
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On December 19 2011 12:40 Body_Shield wrote:
Does this help?
Yes. Your post was much more helpful than the other guys.
Questions:
What do you think about Pandemic Legion, who has a very similar approach to Eve?
How do you help new players to the game who want to be financially independent from the corp after starting out to eventually afford PLEX and not have to pay real money? Since being a tackler in a rifter is fun, but it doesn't get you money.
Also I wasn't really making a comparison, it was a way to say that the guys responding to my post and acting smug about Eve PvP are the same kind of BW posters that were the same when TL exploded after SC2 was released (and many still are today, if you read the BW threads).
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Hyrule19144 Posts
It's got far more disadvantages than advantages. I'm not saying you're saying sov is endgame, I'm saying you're talking with the attitude that it is.
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On December 19 2011 12:51 adrenaLinG wrote:
Yes. Your post was much more helpful than the other guys.
Questions:
What do you think about Pandemic Legion, who has a very similar approach to Eve?
PL certainly have more hardware and pilots than we do, but we haven't interacted with them enough for me to comment on them.
On December 19 2011 12:51 adrenaLinG wrote:
How do you help new players to the game who want to be financially independent from the corp after starting out to eventually afford PLEX and not have to pay real money? Since being a tackler in a rifter is fun, but it doesn't get you money.
Well, there's only so much you can do as a new player, but we have some guides on a bunch of different things. Salvaging is a common start, a couple of the guys are big on site probing. Bunch of the new guys are into missioning now.
On December 19 2011 12:51 adrenaLinG wrote:
Also I wasn't really making a comparison, it was a way to say that the guys responding to my post and acting smug about Eve PvP are the same kind of BW posters that were the same when TL exploded after SC2 was released (and many still are today, if you read the BW threads).
EVE is pretty adversarial, chock it up to a little bit of bitter vet syndrome. I can be the same way at times, aka after I did about 100 jumps flying stuff around for little to no reward.
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United States43162 Posts
On December 19 2011 12:51 adrenaLinG wrote:Yes. Your post was much more helpful than the other guys. Questions: What do you think about Pandemic Legion, who has a very similar approach to Eve? How do you help new players to the game who want to be financially independent from the corp after starting out to eventually afford PLEX and not have to pay real money? Since being a tackler in a rifter is fun, but it doesn't get you money.
PL are, in general, no less terrible than any other big blob. Everyone in eve is terrible.
Tackle rifter is independent of PvE. Even the brand new Spawning Pool players can afford at least two accounts with plex. A guy called Tarias joined Spawning Pool about a month ago, has never put any real $ into the game and currently has 4 accounts including one he bought for 9b isk.
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On December 19 2011 13:13 KwarK wrote:
Everyone in eve is terrible.
A broad sweeping generalization, which is actually true..... I wish it wasn't, but then who would we take the isk from!
There are good individual players though, and we pretty much know the majority of them.
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On December 19 2011 13:13 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 12:51 adrenaLinG wrote:On December 19 2011 12:40 Body_Shield wrote:
Does this help? Yes. Your post was much more helpful than the other guys. Questions: What do you think about Pandemic Legion, who has a very similar approach to Eve? How do you help new players to the game who want to be financially independent from the corp after starting out to eventually afford PLEX and not have to pay real money? Since being a tackler in a rifter is fun, but it doesn't get you money. PL are, in general, no less terrible than any other big blob. Everyone in eve is terrible. Tackle rifter is independent of PvE. Even the brand new Spawning Pool players can afford at least two accounts with plex. A guy called Tarias joined Spawning Pool about a month ago, has never put any real $ into the game and currently has 4 accounts including one he bought for 9b isk.
How did he manage to multiply his money?
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On December 19 2011 13:13 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 12:51 adrenaLinG wrote:On December 19 2011 12:40 Body_Shield wrote:
Does this help? Yes. Your post was much more helpful than the other guys. Questions: What do you think about Pandemic Legion, who has a very similar approach to Eve? How do you help new players to the game who want to be financially independent from the corp after starting out to eventually afford PLEX and not have to pay real money? Since being a tackler in a rifter is fun, but it doesn't get you money. PL are, in general, no less terrible than any other big blob. Everyone in eve is terrible. Tackle rifter is independent of PvE. Even the brand new Spawning Pool players can afford at least two accounts with plex. A guy called Tarias joined Spawning Pool about a month ago, has never put any real $ into the game and currently has 4 accounts including one he bought for 9b isk.
Actually I used some mturk money to subscribe my own account when I started out, so not entirely true there.
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Hyrule19144 Posts
btw we are now sov holding elite null alliance so adrenaling no longer has a reason to not play with us.
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For anyone just starting out, Steam has Eve on sale (including the first month) for $6.80, which sounds like a pretty good deal.
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Its not, you can have it for free.
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On December 19 2011 13:18 Body_Shield wrote:A broad sweeping generalization, which is actually true..... I wish it wasn't, but then who would we take the isk from! There are good individual players though, and we pretty much know the majority of them.
Hi, I'm in Goonwaffe
E: anyone interested in joining goonwaffe, 0.0 multiple region alliance, feel fee to pm me.
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United States43162 Posts
On December 20 2011 07:05 xeus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 13:18 Body_Shield wrote:On December 19 2011 13:13 KwarK wrote:
Everyone in eve is terrible. A broad sweeping generalization, which is actually true..... I wish it wasn't, but then who would we take the isk from! There are good individual players though, and we pretty much know the majority of them. Hi, I'm in Goonwaffe E: anyone interested in joining goonwaffe, 0.0 multiple region alliance, feel fee to pm me.
We just slapped your welpfleet around in 2K, outnumbered 4 to 1 with no logis and fewer recons. Zero losses.
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On December 20 2011 07:05 xeus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 13:18 Body_Shield wrote:On December 19 2011 13:13 KwarK wrote:
Everyone in eve is terrible. A broad sweeping generalization, which is actually true..... I wish it wasn't, but then who would we take the isk from! There are good individual players though, and we pretty much know the majority of them. Hi, I'm in Goonwaffe E: anyone interested in joining goonwaffe, 0.0 multiple region alliance, feel fee to pm me.
I do not recommend joining goonwaffe if youre at least semi-sane.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11936926
Now you might look at that battlereport and think it was an even fight, but alas, goons would never dare to engage in a 1:1 fight. It was more like
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/a4zpB.jpg)
Actually, i c what u did there.
On December 20 2011 07:05 xeus wrote:
E: anyone interested in joining goonwaffe, 0.0 multiple region alliance, feel fee to pm me.
aply join
From: .....
To: Mara Myra
INBOX
yo, as i say i have problems with my recruit officer, i pay the colateral and now im w8 for code what i need 4 aply join in game. problem is i send him the money and on the web is still NOT PAYED but i have proof i pay, in my walet transaction, and atm he blocked me. tx for tryin help me. Bella Rugente
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This is a decent place to start in the game. Great FCs, great handle on establishing yourself in the game and teaching that to others.
2/10 for manners though, bunch of jerks.
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I just sent the PMs. Seems pretty cool, but being a noob in a well-established MMO means I'll probably be scammed and mugged within 5 minutes of joining.
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On December 20 2011 08:30 Sard Caid wrote:
This is a decent place to start in the game. Great FCs, great handle on establishing yourself in the game and teaching that to others.
2/10 for manners though, bunch of jerks.
HI YOU GHEY
CAN'T MUTE ME HERE EHHHH
<3
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On December 20 2011 08:30 Sard Caid wrote:
This is a decent place to start in the game. Great FCs, great handle on establishing yourself in the game and teaching that to others.
2/10 for manners though, bunch of jerks.
Sard so BM
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Hyrule19144 Posts
On December 20 2011 08:30 Sard Caid wrote:
This is a decent place to start in the game. Great FCs, great handle on establishing yourself in the game and teaching that to others.
2/10 for manners though, bunch of jerks.
You're just jealous of our sov.
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Downloading the trial atm. I have tried this game before, but got bored of it after the 14 days due to being alone the entire time. But admittedly, its been a while. Does it matter at all what race I choose and so on?
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