The Hatchery is opening recruitment to all of teamliquid.net! If you are completely new to the game, or already have an account, it doesn't matter to us! You will be invited into a training corp (Spawning Pool) that allows us to better handle an influx of people.
What is EVE Online? Eve Online is a video game by CCP Games. It is a player-driven persistent-world MMORPG set in a science fiction space setting. Players pilot customizable ships through a galaxy comprising over 7,500 star systems. Most star systems are connected to one or more other star systems by means of stargates. The star systems can contain several phenomena including moons, planets, stations, wormholes, asteroid belts and complexes.
Players of Eve Online are able to participate in a number of in-game professions and activities, including mining, piracy, manufacturing, trading, exploration and combat (both player versus environment and player versus player). The range of activities available to the player is facilitated by a character advancement system based upon training skills in real time, even while not logged into the game.
Well, why should I join?
EVE isn't like most MMOs. The skill ceiling is higher, for one thing. If you have your wits about you, there's no limit to what you can accomplish. The top 1% players in EVE probably control more than 50% of the wealth, all because they clawed their way to the top, whether it was by trading goods, building an empire, or writing a 3rd party program. Once a completely new player gets his bearings, he's on the exact same playing field as someone who's been playing for years.
Here's an example of this principle in action: last winter, a member of The Hatchery started trading. At first, he had no assets. He started off with a 50 million isk loan (isk is the currency of EVE) and went to work. A month later, he had 10 billion isk -- enough to pay for his subscription to the game for the next two years. And yes, this means that you can pay for your subscription using in-game money!
Another example: nearly all of the pilots in The Hatchery are new players who've signed up within the last year or so. Older, more experienced pilots have the ability to fly better ships than us, and fly them with better stats, too. Yet we do pretty well for ourselves on the battlefield. Take a look at this battle that took place a couple of months ago. Our fleet, on the left, is massively outnumbered. Yet we managed to come out on top by a ratio of 11-1. How? By being smart, by flying as a team, and by relying on our wits, not our four year old characters.
I won't be able to help as a noobie, though, will I?
Actually, you can help out in a pretty specific way. In our pvp gang, noobies fly the glorious frigate known as the Rifter. As a Rifter pilot, you dictate what we can and cannot kill, and you dictate what we can and cannot survive. You are our shield, and our spear. You are there to speed headlong towards your target, grab him, and hold him fast while we pummel him with our larger ships. If the tide of battle turns against us, you can save ships that are much more expensive than your own by "tackling" ships that are trying to cut off our retreat. Visual Representation of what we get Rifters to do: Our fleet is represented by the white vehicle, the opposing fleet is the black vehicle, and the man pulled from the black vehicle is the guy we want dead. You can guess who you are.
How much does Eve Online cost to play?
You can actually play this game without spending any real world money. There is an in game market of timecards that are bought and sold for in game currency and items. And the initial purchase of the game can be completely avoided by having someone invite you to play!
How to join: If you already have been playing EVE Online, please PM these people on teamliquid.net with your character name: DiracMonopole Firebolt145 JJoNeEightY Byzantium Mandini
If you do not have EVE Online currently, please PM the same people on teamliquid.net and tell them you wish to get the game. Please include your Email and Times of your availability Also, do not buy the game straight away, download the trial first
Our public channel is Hatchery Pub. Just type that into the join channel. Be aware of trolls, bittervets and generally angry Brits. Your first point of contact should still be the people listed above.
Quotes about EVE Online from well known people of the Starcraft community!*
“[Y]es” -Sean “Day[9]” Plott
*Quotes may or may not actually be about EVE Online, and possibly heavily paraphrased
Who are The Hatchery? On paper we are a small group of combat pilots that operate in small gang pvp. Off paper when we aren’t destroying shit that isn’t ours, we mostly do whatever we want.
Are you awesome? Thanks for asking. Actually, yes, we are. This is our killboard, green is good, red is bad, the % written at the top is the value of kills to losses. It's pretty green.
So I was first told about this game EVE Online in November '10 by a friend who said it was a good way to make real life money by playing a game and he was going to start. I downloaded it and created a trial account. After two days of cluelessly wandering around, I said 'fuck this' and alt-f4'd.
A couple weeks later I was scanning TL when I saw 'EVE Corporation' in the Sports and Games column. I scanned through the OP and read a few posts here and there. I also read motbob's post on why you should play EVE. I asked if it was a game a student could play while still focusing on studies, etc. I was told it was a game that you did not have to grind for yet still could be quickly useful. I had also read the massive Metagaming in EVE thread about the war between Goonswarm and Band of Brothers. I became really interested in this game that could somehow come up with such epic stories.
So I gave it a shot. Immediately upon joining Hatchery I already had a much better idea of what to do, what to aim for and how to play the game. However we were still a hisec corp in those days - deeply clueless at pve (even though most of us were silly missioners) and all attempting to nano against bigger guy without any real idea of how to do it. We were terrible back then. Since then however we have improved in leaps and bounds and I often wonder what it would be like if we could go back to our previous home and fight our previous enemies like Necrophiliacs etc, but that's another story.
It started out slow for me as a Rifter in hisec (it is rather different now for newbies - you get thrown into the thick of fights on day 2) but once I stepped into my Hurricane, the game was on. We learned to pvp, thrashed the shittalkers in Aralgrund then made our big move from Emol to Oddelulf, where we were exposed to Gunpoint Diplomacy, Dark Rising/ANZAC/Executives and Russians. We were fighting against huge blobs and winning. We started fighting carriers, previously just 'something we'd heard about out in nullsec' and at one point killed 4-5 in a week with our rag-tag gang of battlecruisers and rifters.
It's not just the PVP where we have grown. We have gone from mediocre pvers to, well, pretty damn good pvers. We have figured out the best ways to mission and many ways to make isk (money) that others don't even believe possible. Some of us have become traders (I have only just started trying it out this week), some of us manufacturers, some of us explorers and I know at least 2 or 3 of us that make our money through rather unscrupulous means. There are just so many things to do in this game.
Thanks to the Hatchery we have all been able to support each other through this. If it wasn't for Hatchery, I would never have experienced the deep game of EVE. I now spend a lot of time helping newbies in the game get the most out of their experience hoping they get as interested as I am.
I am currently at 8.5 million skillpoints on my main character. Most of the mediocre corps that take in new players require 10 million at a minimum to even be considered for membership. The best part about that is that I have experienced far more of this game than most people who have been playing for years. I have had a great number of successes in combat, along with a few failures that I am no longer ashamed to admit. My combat efficiency is something most people have dreams about. I command (along with Firebolt) a market venture currently worth many billions, with no end to the profit in sight. I own the best missioning ship in the game, and I can make hundreds of millions in a single hour in multiple ways. I also am starting to run tournaments for the corp, with prize pools in the hundreds of millions, because I like giving back. All with less time spent playing the game than it takes to even get in to the most mediocre of corporations.
And you know what? All of that is pretty standard in The Hatchery.
I started out just as you will in a rifter, not much money, not much sense, but I had free rifters :D What came after was a plethora of successes, a number of failures, and I eventually learned how to fly thanks to every single person in the corp. That first phase may have been a bit harsh, but I learned to just laugh and learn from my mistakes. Looking back on it though, I realize I enjoyed it, and as a fellow TL member I'm sure you will enjoy it as well (plus, it only gets better once you get good ).
Today's festivities, from my point of view, started off by logging in while Kwark and Co. prepared to battle near EC-. Unfortunately I was logged off in the ass-end of Fade due to certain ops gone bad last night involving an Erebus. After somebody informed me that the way to Okagaiken (closest lowsec) was clear, I start warping to the outgate. Local +1s. Okay...
As I land on gate, I see a Heretic pop up on dscan, at which I conclude I'm quite fucked (odds of "solo heretic" are, in personal experience, quite low). He immediately bubbles, I lock him up, point/web, game on. Luckily, I had loaded CN thunders, and the first volley smacked the Heretic for 1800-ish damage. I start burning out of the bubble, and the second volley takes him out. Crow decloaks. Unfortunately, an interceptor runs down a Drake easily, and even worse, it has a scram (why????). I web it, and prepare to face it in a glorious duel to the death. But this is not to be, as a dishonour Falcon decloaks and jams me, at which point Kwark helpfully advises me to self-destruct. Alas, I do not have the time, since a pack of feral Canes and Vagabonds come to assault me, and a second Heretic appears to ensure my pod express home.
gf
(That Drake had about 70 kills to its name. RIP brave honourwarrior o7)
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I join up with the Saranen crowd, waiting to fight an FA gang consisting of many Canes and whatnot, while some PODLA people come from Taisy to join us. Our plan's timetable is moved up by the announcement that said FA gang is beginning to leave. Before arriving in EC-, Kwark and Karah attempt to 'bait' a rather small (5-7 man) Spacemonkey's camp, presuming that the giant FA cane army will come in to save the day. What really happens is they end up murdering a Vagabond, Fatal Ascension never arrives, and they scatter, leaving us to ungentlemanly blob the last man on the field...
We cruise on over to FA headquarters, looking for a fight. Eventually we find the remnants of the FA gang camping the path to Goonland.
We have 8 BCs, a Zealot, and a Tengu. They have 11 BCs, Lachesis (hello obvious primary), and 3 Scimmis. It is, perhaps, going to become ugly, as overheated Lachesis scrams will be a huge issue if its not taken care of quickly.
Luckily the Lachesis is armor tanked and he dies in a fire. Their gang has little in the way of tackle after that point, so the initial burnout is accomplished with no losses (rifter pilots don't count because they aren't people anyways), their poorly positioned battlecruisers are chased down and killed, and the enemies eventually make the call to deaggress and jump. Mandini carries out podding duty. Michael fails to catch any scimmis on the other side.
We head back to EC-, where a sizable camp is reported. With some nice probing we manage to get the jump onto one of their harbs before they warp on us. Luckily, none of us manage to get caught by the Mordus Angels' secret weapon, the nano-ODI brick cyclone, and from there, its a matter of seeing what we can kill before they leave the field.
We cruised off into null with a few drakes and a rifter or two, heading for VFK (goon central). On the way we stole a 10/10 plex off of some goon but the Guristas Maze takes forever, pays fuck all and is near impossible to gank someone in so we abandoned it and kept going. VFK didn't give us any action but we ran into some FA (goon pets) doing an escalation nearby so we stole it and got a vigilant bpc and some other nice loot. Then, with goons unwilling to give us any action, we headed to C4C to see what was up with FA.
Meanwhile an unrelated PODLA fleet was had been fucking around in C4C and was heading over to VFK. We had a broad familiarity with them having spent the last fortnight killing each other (-2 drakes and a harb on our side, -2b isk tengu on theirs) so we had a fair idea of what each other was capable and how we flew. We ran straight into each other and they killed one of our drakes. Some banter in local chat developed into a private convo and the appearance of a 40 man fleet nearby forced us together.
Now just to clarify. The Hatchery doesn't blue. We have no blues. We want no blues. We see it, we shoot. However we're as opportunistic as the next man and just because they killed one of us thirty seconds ago doesn't necessarily stop us from working with someone. Our fleets merged and I was left in charge of a fleet twice the size of my usual smallgang shit (18 man) along with some pilots I didn't know who were undoubtedly more experienced than I. Funtimes -_-.
We formed up in VFK and FA instantly fucked off leaving us massively blueballed. We were flying an awesome composition of web nanodrakes, tengus and dual links with huginn + lachesis and the area was dead. Fortunately we soon found a Fidelas Constans gang (which coincidentally had blueballed and trashtalked us not 24 hours ago). We jumped on in to their bubble but they immediately gtfoed and we weren't able to kill much. No losses so their fleet doesn't appear on the mail.
We were again out of targets and actually defleeted to go our separate ways after that fight. Half of PODLA went home but 90 seconds later the other half ran into a 20 man gatecamp in CR. They convoed me, we reformed the fleet and sized them up.
On our side we had a huginn, lachesis, vaga, harb and six drakes. On theirs, broadsword, huginn, zealot, two sleipnirs, two lokis, thanatos, nidhoggur, approximately six drakes, six canes and some assorted cruisers and frigates. They also had a mael and scorpion placed 150k off gate to ruin our day further. Anyway, we jumped the gate into their bubble.
Both sides immediately alphaed the huginn of the other side off. I am assured by our huginn pilot he was the narrowest margin imaginable from escape but alas he didn't make it. However once we were through the gate the worst part was over and we were out into open space where our nanodrakes could really make themselves felt. The blackbird and the scorpion went down in seconds with the maelstrom following it. Pilots who had burned off at strange angles due to bad spawns (next to a loki in my case) were able to merge back into the pack and in a tight group the webs defend all of them. We proceeded to drop canes while kiting the loki webs (made infinitely easier by a lachesis) and the hostiles seemed incapable of reforming themselves into a cohesive blob. Our scattered burn from the gate left them isolated while we were able to regroup and start smashing ships almost immediately. Our lachesis was forced off the field by fighters several times but where we were able to disengage and burn behind the rest of the pack they simply suffered mounting losses.
A hostile hawk was able to land a scram on one of our drakes who got isolated while the rest of us were busy dropping a loki whose heated Fed Navy Webs were proving a bit of an issue. They warped everything they had to the hawk (including recently reshipped pilots) and although our vaga dropped it quickly they had secondary tackle and tore a drake down. To make matters worse the long burn combined with some neuts left the vaga hurting for cap some 80k from the rest of us and he dropped too. This left us with a lachesis, a harb and five drakes. Bad times.
An ongoing skirmish for control of the field emerged, possibly as a result of a dozen t2 and t3 wrecks on the field with FN webs, domination webs and RF gyros among the loot (all dropped by them). The sheer quantity of wrecks in every direction made it hell to nano and we were forced to nano out and reform countless times as they swamped over us, although each time we sustained no losses and created several more wrecks. Fortunately we'd had the foresight to bring a covops with 1k nanite which we put in a can at a safespot and used to continually repair and redistribute ammo as the fight simply refused to end. We also emptied loot into it over and over, there was simply too much to carry.
Eventually they slowed down, plussed local a bit and organised themselves. When they next threw themselves at us they had four scimitars, two basilisks, two huginns (complete with kin hardeners), an arazu, a linking claymore on the station at 0, a trio of scorpions (all caldari jams) and around a dozen each of canes and drakes. This caught us a little off guard so we dropped a huginn (somehow?!?!?) and mwded out, losing a cane (reshipped from lost drake) to the huginn arazu combo. We made a valiant attempt at alphaing the arazu and achieved armour damage but with the jams and six logis it just wasn't happening so, after ninety minutes, we were forced to concede the field.
On September 18 2011 16:03 419 wrote: The battle commences with the forces of good (Hatchery + an inebriated PODLA Tengu) smashing a Tempest and Hurricane in quick succession with missile spam. However, during the initial burn-out phase Firebolt’s Tempest gets tackled by Rifter (scram!) and two Rapiers. While Rapiers are nice and expensive explosions, we are working against time here as nearly 100% of their fleet (probably outnumbering us 2 to 1) is focused on downing our lone battleship. The Rapiers are quickly called primary and one falls due to Caldari Navy Scourge imbalance. Unfortunately, the Tempest is still very much scrammed and super-webbed, and the flagship of the Hatchery inevitably disintegrates under the firepower of the Fatal Ascension infidels.
To make matters worse, Nou gets caught in some Sabre drag bubble while warping back from a celestial. Isolated and away from the bulk of our forces, he is quickly murdered. Our Rifters proceed to do their job – scramming things and dying in horrible fires.
Fueled by righteous anger, our drunk Tengu finishes off the other Rapier. By this point the enemy fleet is getting spread out, and we manage to drop their fast tackle pretty fast (Stabber, Taranis, Sabre). Isolated BCs are pointed out and destroyed (5 hurricanes, 1 drake), a lost Ishtar pilot who stumbled his way onto the battlefield is quickly deprived of his ship, and a Scimitar arrives just as his comrades flee back through the gate. Splash one (1) Scimitar. The last enemy on the field, a Scorpion, is dispatched.
There’s a lot of loot on the field, and after 20 minutes of fucking around FA returns for round 2. They bait us with a Brutix, who scrams Orandos, and we manage to kill it and run before his 20+ compatriots arrive. On the other side of the gate, our crack anti-Recon squadron, consisting of Aeth, Body Shield, and our Tengu manage to smash some random Arazu who was doing some ineffective Recon-y things (sensor dampening and exploding, I guess)…
We manage to splash some fast tackle, a Dominix and Hurricane who both get caught. In a nice turn of luck, we also get their safe spot location and point the last man there, who happens to be the Hurricane carrying all their loot. After this, FA takes the jump bridge express, conceding the system to us.
Pod Liberation Authority - Nanofiber Internal Structure Some nano-fleet footage by Pod Liberation Authority, a pirate corporation that we sometimes fly with. The last engagement (Part 2, approx 8:20) really shows the strength and fragility of nano fleets.
Pervs - Smartbomb Fleet More of a luls fleet. Smartbombs are close-ranged splash weapons that do not require the locking of targets. Basically they were a giant ball of death and people warped to them.
You may or may not have seen our recruitment post. In conjunction with this little drive of ours, I have decided that the next event in the Teamliquid EVE Tournament Series will be a pair of Starcraft tournaments, one SC2, one BW, to celebrate the game that brought us all together.
As this is meant to supplement the recruitment drive and get more people to join up, the prizes for this tournament will be in both EVE currency and EVE game time.
All games will be played on ICCUP
The games will start on Saturday the 12th, times will be released when I get a better idea on the number of competitors. Times will also be flexible, as we have people from many different parts of the world in EVE.
You may enter both the BW and SC2 tournament, but you can only win prizes in one of them. If you are not going to play EVE and do not want your prize, it will go to the next person.
The prizes are: 1st - 2 PLEX (60 days of game time or ~860 million in ISK) 2nd - 1 PLEX (30 days of game time or ~430m in ISK) 3rd - 200 million ISK.
The map pool is: Official ICCUP map pack
Tournament format: Single elimination Matches will be BO3, Finals will be BO5 (can change depending on the amount of competitors) Loser picks next map Round starting maps will be added depending on the number of competitors
Rules: Standard ICCUP rules Disconnects: - If a player disconnects and the game was in the first 5 minutes, there will be a regame - If the game was longer than 5 minutes, contact a member of The Hatchery, namely Mandini - The Hatch member will decide whether the game will be replayed or a player will be awarded a win - If the same player disconnects twice, that player will automatically take a loss Reporting Matches: - You must report the result of the match after it has been completed - To do so, pm Mandini on TL - Please ensure you select the right maps for each round Pauses: Please notify your opponent if you intend on pausing - A pause should not exceed 5 minutes and can be done only once per game - Pauses for extended periods of time are permitted if any in-game issues arise (lag, excessive BM etc.) - Please contact a member of The Hatchery, namely Mandini, if any such issues arise in-game
Thank you to VoV, Jed, Body, Pollux, Not Orious, Mythics, Gudrun, and Adolith (I dont know your TL names :|) for their donations.
I am still putting out a great deal of the money shared by FB and I, if you would like to donate with isk, pm me on TL.
Recently, the only "official" teamliquid representation in EvE has been the PvP corporation "The Hatchery". What a lot of people don't know is that Hatch was formed as a PvE training corp for the corp "Liquid Inc" (which no longer really exists). Well we have most certainly grown from that time, and there is now need for a training corporation of our own.
Previously if you wanted to be with the TL community in EvE, you had to 1. Want to pvp, and 2. Know a great deal about TL. The training corporation "The Spawning Pool" is meant to address these two issues.
In SP, we have directors dedicated to helping you do whatever it is you want to do, from PvP to missioning to exploration to planetary interaction to industry to, if you reallllllly want to, mining (but you shouldn't want to). You will also have access to almost all of the vast knowledge base of Hatch, and if there is money in it, a Hatch member has done it at least once :D.
Regarding the second point, we want more TL members to get involved, not just the high post count members and the lurkers who have been here for a while. To address this, the only barrier for entry into SP is a TL account that is at least 14 days old.
As a new player, you will be given a mentor who will help you out in deciding what you want to do with EvE, and from there both your mentor and the senior members of SP will help you do just that. As an existing player, you will be able to be a part of the TL community in EvE, and expand your knowledge about the game, all while doing whatever it is you want to do with EvE.
If you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me on TL.
JOIN NOW!! IT'S AWESOME AND YOU PLAY FOR FREE AND IT'S AWESOME!!!!!! If you've been rejected in the past for being an obvious spy or you want a more relaxed learning environment with other noobs or whatever then still join. If you want to play the coolest mmo ever with tl guys and win and be the best then join and do those things and shit.
if you have 5 hours a few nights a week to spare on gaming then Eve is a true experience
you go on teamspeak and cruise the skies in a massive fleet, sweeping across the galaxy
dont bother to use the scanning probes unless you have a decent framerate tho, you will want to kill yourself after a while
a mouse is required to play
edit: also play if you like atmospheric things like floating alone in the solitude of endless space as a tiny spec of stardust to dark and soothing music
here is a video of me swimming through the endless halls:
On November 07 2011 09:58 darthcaesar wrote: so wait is EVE free to paly now? i'd play if it didn't have a monthly fee
You can subscribe your account by buying game time off of other players for negligible amounts of in game currency. They've legalised real money trading, as long as it's done through them and with the medium of game time. Pretty much every hatchery member maintains a few accounts with in game money. I currently have 18.
EDIT: I didn't know anyone could join the chat channel, I just bough the game for my old trial account and PM people, Hopefully this time I can get a good start
I love space games involving spaceships and dogfights in space. I love games like freelancer, starlancer, and evochron. Eve online seems like a fun and complex game, however the gameplay doesn't suit me at all. Best of luck to you guys.
On November 07 2011 10:14 Pablols wrote: I really wanted to play this a few months ago, I got all the upgrades that were required on the old thread and when I joined the chat channel and asked to join the corporation all I got was FUCK YOU GTFO NOOB. :/
The problem with the chat channel, is that anyone from EVE can join it, and not everyone's always incredibly friendly. I'd guess that you didn't actually manage to talk to one of us.
Give it another go if you want, hopefully you'll reach us instead of some random!
Say I wanted to play, is there any other way to avoid the $20 besides invites?
Not sure why you'd not want the Invite, but not that I'm aware of.
On November 07 2011 10:03 LeFroMaGe wrote: When I played the game briefly, it didn't seem very noob friendly
Thinking about giving it another shot. I've read some epic tales
Eve is very hard game to learn but if you join corporation that answers your questions, helps you with in game money and pretty much instantly takes you into action it becomes much more interesting process.
I tried to join but fizzled out rather quickly. I'll try to join your corp again now that I have a little more time. Oh and I have a mic now thats kinda important
On November 07 2011 10:39 Meteora.GB wrote: Oh fuck.
How do I sign up? Who do I contact? I've always been meaning to play and try EVE Online, despite how I feel its basically a spreadsheet of a game.
Read the end of the OP :D
And yeah I wanted to try it before already too, but back then I couldn't find anybody who actually played it already and playing something like that alone is uncool :/.
You guys should all definitely play this game, and if you do decide to, I'm the one in charge of making sure you get to do whatever you want with this game, and do it well.
I'm here to verify that EVE is indeed awesome. If you have the patience to learn, EVE is the deepest MMO on the market, by far.
The biggest component to learning and enjoying this massive game is to join the right group of people, and The Hatchery is basically one of the best corporations in the game.
On November 07 2011 10:39 Meteora.GB wrote: Oh fuck.
How do I sign up? Who do I contact? I've always been meaning to play and try EVE Online, despite how I feel its basically a spreadsheet of a game.
Read the end of the OP :D
And yeah I wanted to try it before already too, but back then I couldn't find anybody who actually played it already and playing something like that alone is uncool :/.
I will give this a whirl (holy fucknut it's going to take me forever to download 8gigs)
I have an addictive personality though, so I'm going to try and restrain myself if I end up liking it too much.
edit: PM'd the names, kinda vague because lololol edit 2: fuck it, if it's as free and as fun as you guys say it is, I'm just going to play the shit out of it
On November 07 2011 10:49 Brett wrote: If I had the time, I'd give it a go. Eve has always seemed interesting!
Why did this get spotlighted though?
Short answer is that I asked Hot_Bid nicely. Long answer is that teamliquid has a long and glorious history in games other than Starcraft, our userbase is likely to excel in pretty much whatever environment we throw ourselves into. We're a site based around the passion and contributions of gamers and the desire to share that passion with our peers, to make them see it through our eyes, to show them how awesome it all is.
This is awesome. I played a 14 day free trial before and the game was pretty cool although I doubt i really experienced much. I pm'd some people so hopefully I can get plugged in.
I've always been really intrigued by EVE; may switch my MMO fix from WoW to this. What I'm really looking for in an mmo is a fun community that works well together, and I already know how awesome TL people are.
On November 07 2011 12:47 419 wrote: If you like flying with a calm and respectful fleet commander, I 100% recommend The Hatchery ~
Chris is the main SP FC, but I'm sure Aeth and Michael will take out some roams. I doubt Kwark will take out frigate roams.
I've always been really intrigued by EVE; may switch my MMO fix from WoW to this. What I'm really looking for in an mmo is a fun community that works well together, and I already know how awesome TL people are.
What's your position on TL members joining in on hatchery/sp ops without joining the corp? I've been playing eve for about 6 months and really like the corp/alliance I'm in, but we don't do a lot of pvp. I would love to explode in my ares for you guys
On November 07 2011 13:03 Xaeryn wrote: What's your position on TL members joining in on hatchery/sp ops without joining the corp? I've been playing eve for about 6 months and really like the corp/alliance I'm in, but we don't do a lot of pvp. I would love to explode in my ares for you guys
We have friends we fly with....and also kill..... It's a weird relationship.
Your best bet would be to set up a Jump Clone somewhere near our home system on Saranen with a rifter and things you wouldn't mind getting podded with in the clone. Then just be on TS or something so you can hear if something is going down.
Problems being the 24 hour limit but I would hope we are worth a day.
I flew with you guys several months back, I don't think I ever ended up doing anything great but managed to avoid doing anything terrible. It was a lot of fun and I'd love to come back but atm I really don't even have the time to play enough to be able to earn enough iskies to play for free...
One of these days though I'll come back if you'll still have me (although all my shit is still in heimatar) iirc I was right at t2 cane and finishing off IV'ing and V'ing the necessary support skills... I can't remember how much actual SP total though
On November 07 2011 14:23 Cheesedawg wrote: Your best bet would be to set up a Jump Clone somewhere near our home system on Saranen with a rifter and things you wouldn't mind getting podded with in the clone. Then just be on TS or something so you can hear if something is going down.
Problems being the 24 hour limit but I would hope we are worth a day.
When I want make to a new account and join the Hatchery should I try to be close to that system in the beginning too, does it get chosen automatically for me or can I move there lateron?
On November 07 2011 14:23 Cheesedawg wrote: Your best bet would be to set up a Jump Clone somewhere near our home system on Saranen with a rifter and things you wouldn't mind getting podded with in the clone. Then just be on TS or something so you can hear if something is going down.
Problems being the 24 hour limit but I would hope we are worth a day.
When I want make a new account and join the Hatchery should I try to be close to that system in the beginning too, does it get chosen automatically for me or can I move there lateron?
It doesn't matter what race you choose, if you want a few hours off your rifter training go minmatar. You can move to where ever you want to go, it only takes a few minutes.
Hello! I have a buddy who plays eve, think I might do a trial to see how I like this game. I swore off mmos years ago but this one just seems so unique and deep. I'll PM you guys when I start an account and learn some of the basics, could be a lot of fun
I've been extremely busy since this post came out, but that's a good thing :D I'm glad to see so many people with interest in the game. If you go into hatch pub and there isn't anyone there that answers you, just check back later, because I'm going to bed now.
On November 07 2011 17:56 Cuddle wrote: God, this sounds so right up my alley. How's the whole EU/NA-thing working out for you? Does the time differences affect the team?
Damn, I wish I had a couple of free hours a night to spend on this!
It works out pretty well, we don't really plan much, a lot comes down to when someone feels like leading a roam or when we have something that is asking to be shot at. But excluding the really late US/Early EU times there are quite a few people on, and we normally have 20+ people on hand from varying time zones.
Biggest thing is being on Teamspeak so you can hear when things are happening.
I used to play eve a couple of years ago. Didn't do much PvPing though. I maxed out the mining skills and spent some time leading mining ops for my corp. Used to do a fair bit of trading as well.
I might start playing again in december and try my hand at pvp. I think I've skilled to covert ops and battleships, and from what I remember I was maxing out shields and engineering stuff when I stopped.
On November 07 2011 21:49 pangshai wrote: the official videos really make me wanna play the game, but then i looked up the highlight videos and those were terribly boring.
Eve is, very literally, what you make it for yourself. Also, for the uninitiated watching a video, you will not see/understand the vast majority of what a player is doing.
On November 07 2011 12:48 jubil wrote: I've always been really intrigued by EVE; may switch my MMO fix from WoW to this. What I'm really looking for in an mmo is a fun community that works well together, and I already know how awesome TL people are.
i did exactly that! can only recoment this to anyone who is bored of wow and especially its community. eves playerbase is so much more fun to interact with. the game is amazing and after you have handled the deadly learning curve you will enjoy it. all you need to bring is patience, the will to read a up a lot of information (there are so many information about everything in eve on the web) and a love for spaceship pewpew.
I start playing if I can win the BW or the SC2 tournement. Not going to shell out any $$ for an MMO at the moment, but i do have a little 12m~sp char that would enjoy learning to pvp well.
Recently reactivated my account and decided to play a bit more serious then before (earier i just afked missions while watching sc2 streams tbh), so yeah, my 8mln sp character would love to be a part of Spawning Pool.
Just wanted to drop a note to say that The Hatchery is a very cool corporation. I have always been impressed with what they have been able to accomplish with a reasonably small group of rookie pilots. Nice to see your growth guys, and hope you're having a ton of fun out in null.
Goddamnit. I've kinda gotten into EVE a couple of times -- I quit after the trial both times to preserve my sanity, time, and money. This thread may have convinced me to go at it again. Damn you!
At the least you should force FB to play more, he dumped all of the work of our little business on me, and I also have to do a lot of the work for spawning pool. All for some so-called "exams". >:[
I'm actually a bit surprised at how much time I have spent working on spawning pool related stuff. Its been about 20 hours over the past 2 days answering questions, talking to applicants, calling everyone a spy . You guys better not be swarming us with applications on Friday though, as I will be mysteriously absent pretty much all that day, and you will only see me on the weekend when I'm working on tournament stuff.
I'm glad that I'm doing this much work though, it means good things for the future of TL in EVE.
i have an 2 year old account with ~1 1/2 year training skills in it (flying drake and raven) , perhaps i come to join when i have some free time around december
On November 10 2011 11:29 Fuhrmaaj wrote: I'm not familiar with this game. Does your corporation (or w/e) own a piece of space? Where is that represented on a map?
Unless something's changed in the last 2 days or so we don't currently own any space. Mainly only the large alliances hold space in 0.0. However we do go into other people's space and blow up their shit.
On November 10 2011 11:29 Fuhrmaaj wrote: I'm not familiar with this game. Does your corporation (or w/e) own a piece of space? Where is that represented on a map?
Informally, Ueberlisk is the king of Oddelulf, and the corporation as a whole polices the corridor from Saranen to Torrinos (93PI, G-M, EC-P8R).
I kinda want to try this out... I think I would be mostly interested in manufacturing stuffs though, and less so the pvp part of it. Would there be anyone able to help me out with that maybe?
On November 10 2011 12:53 RedJustice wrote: I kinda want to try this out... I think I would be mostly interested in manufacturing stuffs though, and less so the pvp part of it. Would there be anyone able to help me out with that maybe?
Tob is the guy that does that sort of thing, I only manufacture certain items infrequently, but he likes to do that sort of thing. (And its better than mining (some would argue not by much (but I would disagree (manufacturing isn't that bad (I wanted to think of one more to make it even funnier but I couldn't think of one so I'm just typing now :-)))))
I have a problem with EVE Online and don't really know how what to do, perhaps some of you can help me out The thing is I started playing EVE about 2 years ago, played for 3 months, made some money, lost an Iteron packed with 2bil worth of merchandise, then quit. Half a year after that I started playing again, entered some null sec corp but got some problem in RL so I had to quit. This summer I started playing again after watching the Alliance Tournament. So, I did my magic on the market, made some good ISK and entered some low sec corp. However I got bored pretty quickly of mission running and after loosing a PLEX (yes, you heard me, I'm the one idiot who transports a PLEX in an Iteron through Jita) and another 400mil shipment somewhere near Amarr I quit again.
The thing is, I love the game, I love internet spaceships but for some reason whenever I start playing it I end up hating it within months. I know I'm doing something wrong.
I'm good with virtual money (unfortunately, I'm awful with real money). I think in total I played about 1 year of EVE with TWO accounts, so that's 24 months total but only bought like 2 PLEXes. However, PLEXes are not cheap. So I have to invest quite a lot of time on the market to end up with that kind of cash. This leads to the fact that I'm quite careful with my ISK, and the fact that I get robbed more often then a liquor store makes me even more careful.
Now I'm thinking of coming back to the world of EVE, however, I ask you, what should I do ? Should I do my thing again to get money for PLEXes or should I just go straight to nullsec and pew-pew-ing (which, btw, I'm horribly at). If I go on the pvp road, how the hell can I make ISK as I'm not that fond of paying subscription ? Is there a way to buy your monthly PLEX by not carebearing ?
As I mentioned above, I suck at pvp-ing .. I lost a T2 fitted geddon to some random jackass in a cruiser. I lost about 6 Iteron's Mark V, all fitted with cloak (I never even got to use the cloak as they killed me before I could decide what to do with my fingers).
Sorry for the wall of text guys, but I really want to get back in if someone can give some clear instructions on what to do and how to enjoy EVE.
P.S. as to my char, I have about 12 mil SP on my main, and ~5mil on a secondary.
On November 10 2011 12:53 RedJustice wrote: I kinda want to try this out... I think I would be mostly interested in manufacturing stuffs though, and less so the pvp part of it. Would there be anyone able to help me out with that maybe?
hey there. i'm manufacturing fulltime so i could be able to help you getting into it. right now im a bit short on time as i recently moved into a new flat but i think things will settle a bit on saturday or sunday and i will come back to you!
I use to play this game alot, had 4 characters, one pvp, one capital,one jump freighter and one high sec transporter. Was part of the 0.0 sec allaince wildly inappropriate but after CCP did that patch that broke large scale fights i gave up. Lost a dreadnought after cyno'ing into a system only for the node to crash and when i logged back in my dreadnought had been blown up by a POS. So now most of my belongings are trapped in fade with an allaiance i dont know cause i havnt played in 2 years
aah Eve. I played beta then got banned 1y into the game because RUS corp exploited arkonor and i somehow ended up in the middle of it. (hadn't done anything wrong i wasn't even playing at the time my corp leader had access tho). I was part of the original Stain Alliance
I still have an account my corp leader gave me, maybe i should reactivate it. I still have a couple ships / billion isks laying around Stain.
I have a problem with EVE Online and don't really know how what to do, perhaps some of you can help me out The thing is I started playing EVE about 2 years ago, played for 3 months, made some money, lost an Iteron packed with 2bil worth of merchandise, then quit. Half a year after that I started playing again, entered some null sec corp but got some problem in RL so I had to quit. This summer I started playing again after watching the Alliance Tournament. So, I did my magic on the market, made some good ISK and entered some low sec corp. However I got bored pretty quickly of mission running and after loosing a PLEX (yes, you heard me, I'm the one idiot who transports a PLEX in an Iteron through Jita) and another 400mil shipment somewhere near Amarr I quit again.
The thing is, I love the game, I love internet spaceships but for some reason whenever I start playing it I end up hating it within months. I know I'm doing something wrong.
I'm good with virtual money (unfortunately, I'm awful with real money). I think in total I played about 1 year of EVE with TWO accounts, so that's 24 months total but only bought like 2 PLEXes. However, PLEXes are not cheap. So I have to invest quite a lot of time on the market to end up with that kind of cash. This leads to the fact that I'm quite careful with my ISK, and the fact that I get robbed more often then a liquor store makes me even more careful.
Now I'm thinking of coming back to the world of EVE, however, I ask you, what should I do ? Should I do my thing again to get money for PLEXes or should I just go straight to nullsec and pew-pew-ing (which, btw, I'm horribly at). If I go on the pvp road, how the hell can I make ISK as I'm not that fond of paying subscription ? Is there a way to buy your monthly PLEX by not carebearing ?
As I mentioned above, I suck at pvp-ing .. I lost a T2 fitted geddon to some random jackass in a cruiser. I lost about 6 Iteron's Mark V, all fitted with cloak (I never even got to use the cloak as they killed me before I could decide what to do with my fingers).
Sorry for the wall of text guys, but I really want to get back in if someone can give some clear instructions on what to do and how to enjoy EVE.
P.S. as to my char, I have about 12 mil SP on my main, and ~5mil on a secondary.
This is why you dont carry your own stuff around, put it in couriers and give them ~100k per jump for anything worth over 100m, or less if its worth less.
It isn't viable to make enough money to plex directly from pvp, unless you are ueberlisk. Bearing or playing the market is your best bet.
Also Kwark has about 10 accounts that hes plexing atm.
I once used to have an account, maybe 3/4 years ago, will my ship/loot/money still excist or be deleted by now? Reading those battle reports make me want to play
I have a problem with EVE Online and don't really know how what to do, perhaps some of you can help me out The thing is I started playing EVE about 2 years ago, played for 3 months, made some money, lost an Iteron packed with 2bil worth of merchandise, then quit. Half a year after that I started playing again, entered some null sec corp but got some problem in RL so I had to quit. This summer I started playing again after watching the Alliance Tournament. So, I did my magic on the market, made some good ISK and entered some low sec corp. However I got bored pretty quickly of mission running and after loosing a PLEX (yes, you heard me, I'm the one idiot who transports a PLEX in an Iteron through Jita) and another 400mil shipment somewhere near Amarr I quit again.
The thing is, I love the game, I love internet spaceships but for some reason whenever I start playing it I end up hating it within months. I know I'm doing something wrong.
I'm good with virtual money (unfortunately, I'm awful with real money). I think in total I played about 1 year of EVE with TWO accounts, so that's 24 months total but only bought like 2 PLEXes. However, PLEXes are not cheap. So I have to invest quite a lot of time on the market to end up with that kind of cash. This leads to the fact that I'm quite careful with my ISK, and the fact that I get robbed more often then a liquor store makes me even more careful.
Now I'm thinking of coming back to the world of EVE, however, I ask you, what should I do ? Should I do my thing again to get money for PLEXes or should I just go straight to nullsec and pew-pew-ing (which, btw, I'm horribly at). If I go on the pvp road, how the hell can I make ISK as I'm not that fond of paying subscription ? Is there a way to buy your monthly PLEX by not carebearing ?
As I mentioned above, I suck at pvp-ing .. I lost a T2 fitted geddon to some random jackass in a cruiser. I lost about 6 Iteron's Mark V, all fitted with cloak (I never even got to use the cloak as they killed me before I could decide what to do with my fingers).
Sorry for the wall of text guys, but I really want to get back in if someone can give some clear instructions on what to do and how to enjoy EVE.
P.S. as to my char, I have about 12 mil SP on my main, and ~5mil on a secondary.
I have a problem with EVE Online and don't really know how what to do, perhaps some of you can help me out The thing is I started playing EVE about 2 years ago, played for 3 months, made some money, lost an Iteron packed with 2bil worth of merchandise, then quit. Half a year after that I started playing again, entered some null sec corp but got some problem in RL so I had to quit. This summer I started playing again after watching the Alliance Tournament. So, I did my magic on the market, made some good ISK and entered some low sec corp. However I got bored pretty quickly of mission running and after loosing a PLEX (yes, you heard me, I'm the one idiot who transports a PLEX in an Iteron through Jita) and another 400mil shipment somewhere near Amarr I quit again.
The thing is, I love the game, I love internet spaceships but for some reason whenever I start playing it I end up hating it within months. I know I'm doing something wrong.
I'm good with virtual money (unfortunately, I'm awful with real money). I think in total I played about 1 year of EVE with TWO accounts, so that's 24 months total but only bought like 2 PLEXes. However, PLEXes are not cheap. So I have to invest quite a lot of time on the market to end up with that kind of cash. This leads to the fact that I'm quite careful with my ISK, and the fact that I get robbed more often then a liquor store makes me even more careful.
Now I'm thinking of coming back to the world of EVE, however, I ask you, what should I do ? Should I do my thing again to get money for PLEXes or should I just go straight to nullsec and pew-pew-ing (which, btw, I'm horribly at). If I go on the pvp road, how the hell can I make ISK as I'm not that fond of paying subscription ? Is there a way to buy your monthly PLEX by not carebearing ?
As I mentioned above, I suck at pvp-ing .. I lost a T2 fitted geddon to some random jackass in a cruiser. I lost about 6 Iteron's Mark V, all fitted with cloak (I never even got to use the cloak as they killed me before I could decide what to do with my fingers).
Sorry for the wall of text guys, but I really want to get back in if someone can give some clear instructions on what to do and how to enjoy EVE.
P.S. as to my char, I have about 12 mil SP on my main, and ~5mil on a secondary.
Are any of you EVE players familiar with Egosoft's X series? If so are they at all comparable? EVE is something that's interested me for a while but Skyrim is coming out in a few hours so I will be.. unavailable.. for a few weeks.
So are you guys still just dicking around in low sec?
Also for anyone worried about the learning curve, CCP have made it a lot better then it was 5 years ago and as long as you're playing with helpful people and asking lots of questions you'll pick it up in no time.
How is the activity in the normal EU time zone (for those that work day time)? I basically will never be on at the same time as the US players on weekdays. Kind of busy this week but considering joining next week.
Since I am already spending too much time reading the eve corporation thread I might as well play. :p
I love reading stories about EVE, they are always epic and full of everything that makes a game great, because it's all about player interactions. I don't understand a thing in those battle reports, but keep them coming and please tell your story about your life in EVE.
Feels so good to know TL is making a name in other games, love reading about it.
On November 12 2011 08:28 Mavkar wrote: I love reading stories about EVE, they are always epic and full of everything that makes a game great, because it's all about player interactions. I don't understand a thing in those battle reports, but keep them coming and please tell your story about your life in EVE.
Feels so good to know TL is making a name in other games, love reading about it.
If you like that read the metagame thread, it'll take you days, but it's really nice. (I'm stil not done yet myself)
If you have any interest to try out EVE whatsoever, the hatchery is the way to go. These guys are amazing. People generally know what they are doing, are helpful as long as you are not being an idiot.
I tried EVE with them, but I found out that EVE is not my kind of game (That, and not enough time on my hands).
I'm an EU player (58m SP character) who's been a bit off and on about EVE the past while, it's not a lot of fun on your own. If the Hatchery means lots of tears, shenanigans and killmails I might give it a try. My standings currently favor Caldari, don't know which region you guys are stationed in.
How are the timezones for an EU player? Will I be able to fly with anyone out in low-sec or 0.0 or will I miss most of the action?
Hey Guys I'm seriously thinking about starting to play again. My skills are pretty rusty, but how can I resist blowing shit up with fellow TL:s? :D
Anyways, I played like a year ago. Me and a friend started playing together and did piracy to get alot of money. Using scans to find high lvl players doing missions, warping to them and then steal all to loot I played for 1 ½ month and earned enough to get a rokh ( I think)..
Think I'm gonna head over to EVE:s page and see if I can look some shit up about my account!
What is the activity like in the hatchery around GMT evenings?
The second thing is, I am currently still in school, are there certain time requirements which will be given when you need to be on? For example, I don't know when a assignment will pop up that needs to be done for the next day.
Downloading the trial anyway at the moment. 4hrs until completion :@
On November 12 2011 20:47 pStar wrote: Ok, so i have a few questions?
What is the activity like in the hatchery around GMT evenings?
The second thing is, I am currently still in school, are there certain time requirements which will be given when you need to be on? For example, I don't know when a assignment will pop up that needs to be done for the next day.
Downloading the trial anyway at the moment. 4hrs until completion :@
most people are online around your timezone evenings. as roams and all the stuff happens randomly no one is going to tell you to be online. you show up when you choose to and thats about it.
I am in the middle of installing the trial client, but I have encountered a problem.
Despite selecting another Hard Disk Drive to be the destination of installation, the installer apparently dumps files into my C: drive which is kind of full at the moment. The bigger problem is, however, that this installer already occupied all the remaining space and I can't find those files to remove them from C: to ensure my computer runs smoothly.
Any ideas how to find those files and how to make the installer work purely on another partition?
EDIT: I found the files on C:, but I still need to find a way to prevent it from downloading files into C:.
What kind of a time commitment is required to play this game and have fun with TL members?
On November 07 2011 09:34 FFGenerations wrote: if you have 5 hours a few nights a week to spare on gaming then Eve is a true experience
Is this true in every case? My interests tend to jump a lot. I often feel that I am chasing too many rabbits at once and that playing EVE would just add to the chaos that already runs rampant in my life. I'm not sure I would be online regularly, as I tend to play a game for a week or two and then sporadically show up whenever I feel like it after the initial adrenaline rush. I do however play FPS games quite a bit.
What about the sustained time requirement? Is it better to be online for 8 hours playing with 80% of your capacity and multitasking watching streams and playing EVE or is it better to be online for 2 hours in fullscreen with 110% and no multitasking at all?
How long does it take to get to do nullsec activities and take territory from other groups?
I really want to play this game... I had a trial account in summer 2010 and I played probably three trial accounts end to end in an attempt to make a free first PLEX before I just gave up. I made a new trial account two days ago and flipped 40k pyro for my first mill. Should I just powermine my first PLEX for the next 2-3 months or should I buy a few rifters and join the fleet?
Help me out guys, I'm at an impasse and I need to make a decision soon.
I have a problem with EVE Online and don't really know how what to do, perhaps some of you can help me out The thing is I started playing EVE about 2 years ago, played for 3 months, made some money, lost an Iteron packed with 2bil worth of merchandise, then quit. Half a year after that I started playing again, entered some null sec corp but got some problem in RL so I had to quit. This summer I started playing again after watching the Alliance Tournament. So, I did my magic on the market, made some good ISK and entered some low sec corp. However I got bored pretty quickly of mission running and after loosing a PLEX (yes, you heard me, I'm the one idiot who transports a PLEX in an Iteron through Jita) and another 400mil shipment somewhere near Amarr I quit again.
The thing is, I love the game, I love internet spaceships but for some reason whenever I start playing it I end up hating it within months. I know I'm doing something wrong.
I'm good with virtual money (unfortunately, I'm awful with real money). I think in total I played about 1 year of EVE with TWO accounts, so that's 24 months total but only bought like 2 PLEXes. However, PLEXes are not cheap. So I have to invest quite a lot of time on the market to end up with that kind of cash. This leads to the fact that I'm quite careful with my ISK, and the fact that I get robbed more often then a liquor store makes me even more careful.
Now I'm thinking of coming back to the world of EVE, however, I ask you, what should I do ? Should I do my thing again to get money for PLEXes or should I just go straight to nullsec and pew-pew-ing (which, btw, I'm horribly at). If I go on the pvp road, how the hell can I make ISK as I'm not that fond of paying subscription ? Is there a way to buy your monthly PLEX by not carebearing ?
As I mentioned above, I suck at pvp-ing .. I lost a T2 fitted geddon to some random jackass in a cruiser. I lost about 6 Iteron's Mark V, all fitted with cloak (I never even got to use the cloak as they killed me before I could decide what to do with my fingers).
Sorry for the wall of text guys, but I really want to get back in if someone can give some clear instructions on what to do and how to enjoy EVE.
P.S. as to my char, I have about 12 mil SP on my main, and ~5mil on a secondary.
It's three hours work when you are extremely set up, but to someone who is new or even someone who doesn't do all the crazy high end invention/market/incursion stuff it's an awful lot of isk and a large amount of time.
On November 12 2011 19:40 Thezzy wrote: I'm an EU player (58m SP character) who's been a bit off and on about EVE the past while, it's not a lot of fun on your own. If the Hatchery means lots of tears, shenanigans and killmails I might give it a try. My standings currently favor Caldari, don't know which region you guys are stationed in.
How are the timezones for an EU player? Will I be able to fly with anyone out in low-sec or 0.0 or will I miss most of the action?
We live in low and nullsec, so any standing that you have does not matter at all for anything corp/fleet related. As for tears, ever since we semi-used a spy in a nullsec alliance that is part of the CFC to kill their rorqual they keep stalking our killboard, smacking hard in local and claiming how good they are. [22:34:25] redmanic > quit your trolling if you didn't nano at all you would drop like flies
I'd say most action is between 20:00 and 02:00 GMT but people also do roams in american timezone. However if you feel like it you can always lead your own roam and if you're good people might actually fly with you too!
On November 12 2011 20:47 pStar wrote: Ok, so i have a few questions?
What is the activity like in the hatchery around GMT evenings?
The second thing is, I am currently still in school, are there certain time requirements which will be given when you need to be on? For example, I don't know when a assignment will pop up that needs to be done for the next day.
Downloading the trial anyway at the moment. 4hrs until completion :@
See above. And no there is absolutely no requirement to participate if you dont want to, its your fun that youre neglecting though!
On November 13 2011 00:05 hp.Shell wrote: What kind of a time commitment is required to play this game and have fun with TL members?
On November 07 2011 09:34 FFGenerations wrote: if you have 5 hours a few nights a week to spare on gaming then Eve is a true experience
Is this true in every case? My interests tend to jump a lot. I often feel that I am chasing too many rabbits at once and that playing EVE would just add to the chaos that already runs rampant in my life. I'm not sure I would be online regularly, as I tend to play a game for a week or two and then sporadically show up whenever I feel like it after the initial adrenaline rush. I do however play FPS games quite a bit.
What about the sustained time requirement? Is it better to be online for 8 hours playing with 80% of your capacity and multitasking watching streams and playing EVE or is it better to be online for 2 hours in fullscreen with 110% and no multitasking at all?
How long does it take to get to do nullsec activities and take territory from other groups?
I really want to play this game... I had a trial account in summer 2010 and I played probably three trial accounts end to end in an attempt to make a free first PLEX before I just gave up. I made a new trial account two days ago and flipped 40k pyro for my first mill. Should I just powermine my first PLEX for the next 2-3 months or should I buy a few rifters and join the fleet?
Help me out guys, I'm at an impasse and I need to make a decision soon.
I'd say its a mix of those two. If nothing is going down you can always farm money while watching streams etc, but once enough people gathered and start roaming you can join and should focus on it, at least for the first few runs until you get the grasp of pvp. As for the second question: forever, since we are not intersted in taking territory for various reasons, mainly it being boring and tedious.
Right now because we officially live in lowsec and have no plans to get territory, we can simply alt-tab and watch GSL/whatever Starcraft or football stream we feel like watching whenever we feel like it. We never absolutely have to be online and active at any time to defend ourselves. We are able to choose when we play and how long we play for.
If you think you have an hour free, you may choose to go solo into neighbouring space and try and find a fight, or spend that hour missioning/trading/whatever to make some isk. If you have 2-3 hours free you can go on a roam instead if a few other people are also willing. What I used to do when I was still active was afk in Teamspeak while doing my own work. If anyone in corp was about to do anything interesting they'd speak out on TS and I'd hear about it and be able to choose whether I want to get in on the action as well.
I play just about all variety of games... Marvel vs Capcom, Modern Warfare, Battlefield, Skyrim, (WoW Raid/guild leader) and many other games.
I openly tell anyone that EvE online is the greatest game ever made... and it is. Great community with the team liquid corp, you cant really go wrong here. You need to accept the game has a ridiculously high skill cap, but that just makes it more rewarding when you go up against heavy odds and come out on top.
What is your definition of 'moderately well set up'? Do you mean being able to plex your account each month? If so, then all you need is to have some skills learned (about a month and a half of time needed and you don't need to play at all) to afford this. If you mean being able to pvp adequately in a ship larger than a rifter, it will take about 2 months and we need to be confident in your skills before allowing you to fly a bigger ship in our fleets so we'd prefer if you had come on some fleets by then.
What is your definition of 'moderately well set up'? Do you mean being able to plex your account each month? If so, then all you need is to have some skills learned (about a month and a half of time needed and you don't need to play at all) to afford this. If you mean being able to pvp adequately in a ship larger than a rifter, it will take about 2 months and we need to be confident in your skills before allowing you to fly a bigger ship in our fleets so we'd prefer if you had come on some fleets by then.
Thanks Firebolt, that's exactly what I wanted to know!
On November 20 2011 13:33 Not_Computer wrote: Today was a day of hilarity, with a successful roam, a failed roam (TRIPLE SCRAM PROTEUS!!), a successful roam, a confusing roam, a something that involves flying away as quickly as possible, then two roams going at the same time in the same area with roughly the same objectives but both ruining each other's efforts, and... Kwark having crazy plans, lots of rifters, confusing and hilarious comms, conspiring to kill Aeth, one TL fleet scaring away the prey of the other TL fleet, opponents ejecting out of their ships, gained a passive tanked scram drake with no prop mod, listing the names of giant secure containers, conspiring to kill Aeth again, and... Kwark going after a fleet that outnumber and out techs his fleet, yet is horribly FC-ed and gets smashed, shooting duck stationary enemy ships, Kwark jumping between comm channels, rifters swarming on them as they run away, confusing comms as we're in two separate fleets with horribad communication, some blue vs blue action, ALL the rifters dying without calling a point (although supposedly they did get points even while being jammed), enemy survivors getting caught in a random gate bubble on their turf (guess no one told them) and get massacred by us, enemy falcon pilot randomly gets decloaked and dies, while our rifter pods watch from a safe distance... Kwark showing off killmail links when the killboard is down for everyone but him, Aeth challenging all to honorable T1 frigate battle to be met with anything but honorable frigates.
Im gonna re-sub using the 4 hour free activate before plex thing but id need to earn a ton of cash really fast to buy plex, ive got a tengu set up in high sec but it would be good if i had someone on backup to let me borrow like 50-100m if i run out of time from those 4 hours, my current assets are 114m isk, the tengu (dont want to disassemble etc) a 160m shield booster, and a friend sending ~50m, so its a tight window to earn cash for a plex in lvl 4's
On November 21 2011 06:10 Cyro wrote: Im gonna re-sub using the 4 hour free activate before plex thing but id need to earn a ton of cash really fast to buy plex, ive got a tengu set up in high sec but it would be good if i had someone on backup to let me borrow like 50-100m if i run out of time from those 4 hours, my current assets are 114m isk, the tengu (dont want to disassemble etc) a 160m shield booster, and a friend sending ~50m, so its a tight window to earn cash for a plex in lvl 4's
On November 21 2011 06:10 Cyro wrote: Im gonna re-sub using the 4 hour free activate before plex thing but id need to earn a ton of cash really fast to buy plex, ive got a tengu set up in high sec but it would be good if i had someone on backup to let me borrow like 50-100m if i run out of time from those 4 hours, my current assets are 114m isk, the tengu (dont want to disassemble etc) a 160m shield booster, and a friend sending ~50m, so its a tight window to earn cash for a plex in lvl 4's
PM me if you can help
Talk to Kwark, I hear he likes to give out loans.
Ok, thanks
DLing game client for the third time due to corruption issues with it though atm
On November 21 2011 06:10 Cyro wrote: Im gonna re-sub using the 4 hour free activate before plex thing but id need to earn a ton of cash really fast to buy plex, ive got a tengu set up in high sec but it would be good if i had someone on backup to let me borrow like 50-100m if i run out of time from those 4 hours, my current assets are 114m isk, the tengu (dont want to disassemble etc) a 160m shield booster, and a friend sending ~50m, so its a tight window to earn cash for a plex in lvl 4's
PM me if you can help
Talk to Kwark, I hear he likes to give out loans.
Ok, thanks
DLing game client for the third time due to corruption issues with it though atm
Hey ive got the client sorted out and some time now, if anyone is online who can backup loan me up to ~150m for the 4 hour reactivation to apply plex thing if i cant get all of the cash together (should be less than that) i can pay it back easily in a day if not hours, pm me, thanks.
I am also greatly interested in joining The Hatchery, though id like to talk to a few guys first. My char is a mess, SP thrown around everywhere, but he is near 17m so that counts for something. Cap skills 5/5, advanced weapon upgrades 5, drone interfacing 4, can fly tengu, the battleships for amarr and caldari, a stealth bomber (havnt flown before, just have skills) and also at a lower level gallente, though i used the drone skills mostly in a Rattlesnake a while back.
I was mostly a carebear player, but recently a friend has been casually playing in a 0.0 alliance and im now interested in more stuff than just missions and solo hunts on lowsec with a Vengeance that cant actuly kill anything. The only thing that puts me off is that he has said everyone in the entire alliance has their full API keys monitored using a third party program that notifies the alliance leaders whenever they send or receive any decent amount of money or assets, and of course being the full API key shows every purchase they have ever made on their character, as one example among a lot of other details.
Aside from that low/nullsec seems fun, i know how to work the ship scanner, dodge bubbles and some other basics like safespots, though i am inexperienced
EVERY SINGLE TIME this is bumped I see this as 'Team Liquid wins at internet'. And every single time I have to hover my mouse over it to reread the title. And every single time I think, Team Liquid should get a prize for winning the internet.
On November 22 2011 18:48 A_Bandersnatch wrote: EVERY SINGLE TIME this is bumped I see this as 'Team Liquid wins at internet'. And every single time I have to hover my mouse over it to reread the title. And every single time I think, Team Liquid should get a prize for winning the internet.
On November 22 2011 18:41 Cyro wrote:The only thing that puts me off is that he has said everyone in the entire alliance has their full API keys monitored using a third party program that notifies the alliance leaders whenever they send or receive any decent amount of money or assets, and of course being the full API key shows every purchase they have ever made on their character, as one example among a lot of other details.
This is really, really standard for recruitment in eve. Basically with corp theft, scamming and espionage being as common as legitimate applications any serious corp will ask for this. It enables people to screen you for suspicious behaviour such as receiving a large amount of isk from a hostile party or clearly having undisclosed alts. No account details (logins/passwords/billing) are shared by the api, only in game stuff. While it could be theoretically used to e-stalk you I can assure you that people have much better things to do with their time than that and that everyone gives it. It's not a big deal imo.
On November 22 2011 18:41 Cyro wrote:The only thing that puts me off is that he has said everyone in the entire alliance has their full API keys monitored using a third party program that notifies the alliance leaders whenever they send or receive any decent amount of money or assets, and of course being the full API key shows every purchase they have ever made on their character, as one example among a lot of other details.
This is really, really standard for recruitment in eve. Basically with corp theft, scamming and espionage being as common as legitimate applications any serious corp will ask for this. It enables people to screen you for suspicious behaviour such as receiving a large amount of isk from a hostile party or clearly having undisclosed alts. No account details (logins/passwords/billing) are shared by the api, only in game stuff. While it could be theoretically used to e-stalk you I can assure you that people have much better things to do with their time than that and that everyone gives it. It's not a big deal imo.
He says he cant make an alt outside the alliance and interact with it in any way between accounts or they will kick him though, they seem like nazi's
wow, i had no idea the tengu was a good pvp boat, doesnt everyone fly armor for like any pvp reason whatsoever because it is more common than shields and allows easier logi?
On November 22 2011 18:41 Cyro wrote:The only thing that puts me off is that he has said everyone in the entire alliance has their full API keys monitored using a third party program that notifies the alliance leaders whenever they send or receive any decent amount of money or assets, and of course being the full API key shows every purchase they have ever made on their character, as one example among a lot of other details.
This is really, really standard for recruitment in eve. Basically with corp theft, scamming and espionage being as common as legitimate applications any serious corp will ask for this. It enables people to screen you for suspicious behaviour such as receiving a large amount of isk from a hostile party or clearly having undisclosed alts. No account details (logins/passwords/billing) are shared by the api, only in game stuff. While it could be theoretically used to e-stalk you I can assure you that people have much better things to do with their time than that and that everyone gives it. It's not a big deal imo.
He says he cant make an alt outside the alliance and interact with it in any way between accounts or they will kick him though, they seem like nazi's
Kwark's aka in game is 'Hitler' but we're not Nazi's. We don't care if you have alts outside our corp. Do what you want with them.
wow, i had no idea the tengu was a good pvp boat, doesnt everyone fly armor for like any pvp reason whatsoever because it is more common than shields and allows easier logi?
That video shows a specialised type of flying called 'nano'. It basically involves using speed to dictate range and staying safe, and doing damage over a long distance. Armor plates slow your ship down and thus is bad for nano. Shield is nice, fast and good and take mid slots, meaning we can use low slots for nanos to make our ships even faster. Scimitars (shield logistic boats) are awesome at nano as well, although we don't use them too much since we don't need to.
wow, i had no idea the tengu was a good pvp boat, doesnt everyone fly armor for like any pvp reason whatsoever because it is more common than shields and allows easier logi?
No. Both shield and armour have advantages and disadvantages but our particular style gets incredible use out of shield. A few of our battle reports with shield fleets can be seen below. + Show Spoiler +
wow, i had no idea the tengu was a good pvp boat, doesnt everyone fly armor for like any pvp reason whatsoever because it is more common than shields and allows easier logi?
That video shows a specialised type of flying called 'nano'. It basically involves using speed to dictate range and staying safe, and doing damage over a long distance. Armor plates slow your ship down and thus is bad for nano. Shield is nice, fast and good and take mid slots, meaning we can use low slots for nanos to make our ships even faster. Scimitars (shield logistic boats) are awesome at nano as well, although we don't use them too much since we don't need to.
Interesting and holy shit so many kills with so few losses if any
wow, i had no idea the tengu was a good pvp boat, doesnt everyone fly armor for like any pvp reason whatsoever because it is more common than shields and allows easier logi?
That video shows a specialised type of flying called 'nano'. It basically involves using speed to dictate range and staying safe, and doing damage over a long distance. Armor plates slow your ship down and thus is bad for nano. Shield is nice, fast and good and take mid slots, meaning we can use low slots for nanos to make our ships even faster. Scimitars (shield logistic boats) are awesome at nano as well, although we don't use them too much since we don't need to.
Interesting and holy shit so many kills with so few losses if any
No losses, no logis, they simply couldn't ever pin us down. We do it all the time vs more stuff than that, often using only drakes and rifters.
wow, i had no idea the tengu was a good pvp boat, doesnt everyone fly armor for like any pvp reason whatsoever because it is more common than shields and allows easier logi?
No. Both shield and armour have advantages and disadvantages but our particular style gets incredible use out of shield. A few of our battle reports with shield fleets can be seen below. + Show Spoiler +
Yeah... holy shit... that is some craaaaazy good efficiency. Would love to join you guys.
Still need to loan ~50-100m to do the 4 hour reactivate and buy plex thing, depending on how much i can earn in missions in those 4 hours, if anyone could pm me and let me borrow til i can earn it back it would be really appriciated, shouldnt take long since im in a tengu.
ATM I have 114m (i checked character cache in evemon from when my sub dropped last) and this tengu fit, with the booster avalible to sell temporarily
Just want to get started to avoid 15 euro subscription fee when i can easily run PLEX myself.
Hell, il pay back double isk, 15 euros would just be a massive thorn in my side right now.
Nobody? Its really not that much money, im just not sure i can hit ~470m for a PLEX in 4 hours of game time
Best of luck guys, I de-subbed my account over monocle gate and have no interest in resubbing... I think maybe one day I should use the welcome back for 5 days to get all my stuff out of Deklein... assuming I'm still part of TNT
This is one of the games I find to be theoretically blowing my mind but in practice it feels like you're just mucking about in space with no real goal. I can see what people see in the game, but I really would not play it myself.
However, I like my shooter games and when DUST 514 comes out, I think I'll get that.
For those that haven't heard, it's an FPS for PS3(I know, but hang in there) which connects directly to the EVE world. This means that your armies and vehicles are funded by an EVE Cooperation, and the results of your battles directly influence the worlds that EVE corporations control. This means that powerful empires will be able to pay for the best players to be their grunts, supplying them with vehicles and gear. How awesome and fucking incredible is that concept? Blows my mind.
On November 23 2011 07:09 bech wrote: This is one of the games I find to be theoretically blowing my mind but in practice it feels like you're just mucking about in space with no real goal. I can see what people see in the game, but I really would not play it myself.
However, I like my shooter games and when DUST 514 comes out, I think I'll get that.
For those that haven't heard, it's an FPS for PS3(I know, but hang in there) which connects directly to the EVE world. This means that your armies and vehicles are funded by an EVE Cooperation, and the results of your battles directly influence the worlds that EVE corporations control. This means that powerful empires will be able to pay for the best players to be their grunts, supplying them with vehicles and gear. How awesome and fucking incredible is that concept? Blows my mind.
On November 23 2011 07:09 bech wrote: This is one of the games I find to be theoretically blowing my mind but in practice it feels like you're just mucking about in space with no real goal. I can see what people see in the game, but I really would not play it myself.
However, I like my shooter games and when DUST 514 comes out, I think I'll get that.
For those that haven't heard, it's an FPS for PS3(I know, but hang in there) which connects directly to the EVE world. This means that your armies and vehicles are funded by an EVE Cooperation, and the results of your battles directly influence the worlds that EVE corporations control. This means that powerful empires will be able to pay for the best players to be their grunts, supplying them with vehicles and gear. How awesome and fucking incredible is that concept? Blows my mind.
On November 23 2011 06:34 Audemed wrote: Btw, NPC region? I want nullsec but CBA with tower humping bullshit.
Our current official home is a station on the very edge of lowsec but we spend 99% of our active pvp time in nullsec. We don't do any pos bashes generally as we just can't be fucked to do that sort of bullshit.
Aeth somehow convinced 4 or 5 of us to shoot some ecm modules last week and we're kicking him out of corp for it. (K not really)
On November 23 2011 06:34 Audemed wrote: Btw, NPC region? I want nullsec but CBA with tower humping bullshit.
Our current official home is a station on the very edge of lowsec but we spend 99% of our active pvp time in nullsec. We don't do any pos bashes generally as we just can't be fucked to do that sort of bullshit.
Aeth somehow convinced 4 or 5 of us to shoot some ecm modules last week and we're kicking him out of corp for it. (K not really)
Hey, you showed up at the very end, we actually killed a tower. And it was awful.
On November 23 2011 07:00 mvtaylor wrote: Best of luck guys, I de-subbed my account over monocle gate and have no interest in resubbing... I think maybe one day I should use the welcome back for 5 days to get all my stuff out of Deklein... assuming I'm still part of TNT
Ok, I used to play Eve a couple years back, but it was kind of overwhelming at the time, and I never felt like I was accomplishing anything. Not knowing anyone that knew about the game kind of sucked.
In that I have an account, is this corp willing to spring for a PLEX to get me started, and if so, is there anyone that would be able to help me figure out ways to repay the investment and contribute? Because this game is truly massive and incredible, I just wish I knew what I was doing
Holy shit teamliquid eve corp! I played this for about a year, I was in a pirate corp for about three months, during which we camped the gates at Kinakka. I remember I was training up for Tengu on my Caldari main (I was funding two accounts, one with in-game money) and for afk-missioning with a Gallente alt. I was so into merchanting as well (set up an alt first with some basic trade skills, got a loan from corp and made my first billion in like a month of sitting in jita). Actually, that's as far as I got. Couldn't keep up the payments so I quit (I funded my own PoS in our corp wormhole, and it was just too much effort to refuel all the time so it just kind of... floated there.. a waste of pretty much all my isk). If I ever do go back into the game, I'll have 2 characters sitting in a wormhole with probably no way out. Maybe when my student grant comes through I will play again. Will you guys aid me to getting to where you are if I do? Can't travel to high-sec on my main unless its in a pod btw, -10 sec status isn't nice . Either way, I have pirating experience (gate camping, low sec roaming, general pvp) but am by no means an expert. I think the last time I played was just after they added premium shop. What has changed since?
On November 29 2011 09:57 Fishes wrote: Holy shit teamliquid eve corp! I played this for about a year, I was in a pirate corp for about three months, during which we camped the gates at Kinakka. I remember I was training up for Tengu on my Caldari main (I was funding two accounts, one with in-game money) and for afk-missioning with a Gallente alt. I was so into merchanting as well (set up an alt first with some basic trade skills, got a loan from corp and made my first billion in like a month of sitting in jita). Actually, that's as far as I got. Couldn't keep up the payments so I quit (I funded my own PoS in our corp wormhole, and it was just too much effort to refuel all the time so it just kind of... floated there.. a waste of pretty much all my isk). If I ever do go back into the game, I'll have 2 characters sitting in a wormhole with probably no way out. Maybe when my student grant comes through I will play again. Will you guys aid me to getting to where you are if I do? Can't travel to high-sec on my main unless its in a pod btw, -10 sec status isn't nice . Either way, I have pirating experience (gate camping, low sec roaming, general pvp) but am by no means an expert. I think the last time I played was just after they added premium shop. What has changed since?
I only played for a super tiny bit but i can say for certain that you will never have to pay any real-life money if you play a couple semi-afk hours a day. also you would most likely have to fly a rifter at first, as Kwark would want to see how good you are and teach you a bit before he trusts you with something expensive. TL mainly roams in null sec
On November 29 2011 09:57 Fishes wrote: Holy shit teamliquid eve corp! I played this for about a year, I was in a pirate corp for about three months, during which we camped the gates at Kinakka. I remember I was training up for Tengu on my Caldari main (I was funding two accounts, one with in-game money) and for afk-missioning with a Gallente alt. I was so into merchanting as well (set up an alt first with some basic trade skills, got a loan from corp and made my first billion in like a month of sitting in jita). Actually, that's as far as I got. Couldn't keep up the payments so I quit (I funded my own PoS in our corp wormhole, and it was just too much effort to refuel all the time so it just kind of... floated there.. a waste of pretty much all my isk). If I ever do go back into the game, I'll have 2 characters sitting in a wormhole with probably no way out. Maybe when my student grant comes through I will play again. Will you guys aid me to getting to where you are if I do? Can't travel to high-sec on my main unless its in a pod btw, -10 sec status isn't nice . Either way, I have pirating experience (gate camping, low sec roaming, general pvp) but am by no means an expert. I think the last time I played was just after they added premium shop. What has changed since?
I'm -8.something right now, and we live in Saranen, about 6 jumps from your stupid Kinakka camp (they're all terrible, btw). I've been -10 for almost a year and funded my gametime completely with in game money. Back in MH we had a payment scheme with corp where all the ransoms+loot were sold at the end of the month and dividends were paid out to the highest scorers, which meant being active basically gave you a plex every month (we killed all the things, typically about 40b per month). Now we all have alts and make stupid amounts of money for ourselves and dont bother with corp disbursements anymore.
Money is not an issue. We can teach you how to make isk. All you have to do is participate.
Damn - I've tried out the game several times but always lost interest after a couble of days. Prolly due to the wall of confusion you get hit by the first couble of times playing. But the way you describe it, makes it sound like there is so much more to the game than what I've seen. Guess I'll better give it another shot and try to make it through the wall.
Oh man i miss this game so much! I played from 07 tp 09 had a carrier and was a member of Against All Authorities with 3 accounts. Sold them for monies and now I play sc2 exclusively, but will say to anyone curious and has free time this game is well worth the learning curve! I made two pvp videos if anyone is interested in any game footage of person vs person action. I will link!
Hmm.. I've never played EVE, but I really liked playing Homeworld 2. What do you do in this game? Do you level up a 'character' of some sort and buy ships and trade resources? It seems like the game itself is a new concept and if I read the OP correctly, you don't have to watch out for people who have played longer then you if you know how to play the game, that concept I really enjoy too.
So, do I just PM one of the people listed in the OP for a trial or do I just download the trial and message the TL'ers after I have played a little?
Edit: Who out of the list should I PM? Is there any benefits of 'recruiting' players? If so, who has the least recruited players? :3
On November 29 2011 12:21 MonkSEA wrote: Hmm.. I've never played EVE, but I really liked playing Homeworld 2. What do you do in this game? Do you level up a 'character' of some sort and buy ships and trade resources? It seems like the game itself is a new concept and if I read the OP correctly, you don't have to watch out for people who have played longer then you if you know how to play the game, that concept I really enjoy too.
So, do I just PM one of the people listed in the OP for a trial or do I just download the trial and message the TL'ers after I have played a little?
Edit: Who out of the list should I PM? Is there any benefits of 'recruiting' players? If so, who has the least recruited players? :3
There's a character but you never see it unless you're bad. Each skill in the game has 5 levels, each level taking longer to train than the previous (duh) in real time. You can trade resources, though they are infinitely boring to actually mine. There's all kinds of ways to make money.
Also, you always have to watch out for everyone regardless of their age. You probably qualify for Hatchery so PM Kwark. The benefits of us recruiting you are: 1. You get a 21 day trial instead of 14 2. When you sub because this game is awesome the person who invited you gets 30 days free
On November 29 2011 12:21 MonkSEA wrote: Hmm.. I've never played EVE, but I really liked playing Homeworld 2. What do you do in this game? Do you level up a 'character' of some sort and buy ships and trade resources? It seems like the game itself is a new concept and if I read the OP correctly, you don't have to watch out for people who have played longer then you if you know how to play the game, that concept I really enjoy too.
So, do I just PM one of the people listed in the OP for a trial or do I just download the trial and message the TL'ers after I have played a little?
Edit: Who out of the list should I PM? Is there any benefits of 'recruiting' players? If so, who has the least recruited players? :3
There's a character but you never see it unless you're bad. Each skill in the game has 5 levels, each level taking longer to train than the previous (duh) in real time. You can trade resources, though they are infinitely boring to actually mine. There's all kinds of ways to make money.
Also, you always have to watch out for everyone regardless of their age. You probably qualify for Hatchery so PM Kwark. The benefits of us recruiting you are: 1. You get a 21 day trial instead of 14 2. When you sub because this game is awesome the person who invited you gets 30 days free
I'm downloading the trial now(20 mins left), I'm going to first play around with the game to see if I like it from face value, if I find it in my taste I'll PM Kwark. Now that you've said that you shouldn't see the character unless you're bad.. Guess who's going to consciously think 'I saw the character.. God damnit I'm bad"
Anybody online right now? I am going to reactivate my acc for the 4 hours and see if I can still afford a plex. If not, would anyone be willing to trade me one? I'm sure I have enough in assets to cover for that at least or I can pay you back later.
On November 29 2011 23:49 Fishes wrote: Anybody online right now? I am going to reactivate my acc for the 4 hours and see if I can still afford a plex. If not, would anyone be willing to trade me one? I'm sure I have enough in assets to cover for that at least or I can pay you back later.
I'm waiting for server to get up to head to the hatchery pub channel. Of course they do maintence on the day I have off. Although this new patch looks like it added some pretty cool stuff.
Alright I'm online on my account, got 700m in the bank but it seems.. christ plexes have gotten really expensive now Used to be 300-350m now 450-500 in Jita.
On November 29 2011 12:21 MonkSEA wrote: Hmm.. I've never played EVE, but I really liked playing Homeworld 2. What do you do in this game? Do you level up a 'character' of some sort and buy ships and trade resources? It seems like the game itself is a new concept and if I read the OP correctly, you don't have to watch out for people who have played longer then you if you know how to play the game, that concept I really enjoy too.
So, do I just PM one of the people listed in the OP for a trial or do I just download the trial and message the TL'ers after I have played a little?
Edit: Who out of the list should I PM? Is there any benefits of 'recruiting' players? If so, who has the least recruited players? :3
There's a character but you never see it unless you're bad. Each skill in the game has 5 levels, each level taking longer to train than the previous (duh) in real time. You can trade resources, though they are infinitely boring to actually mine. There's all kinds of ways to make money.
Also, you always have to watch out for everyone regardless of their age. You probably qualify for Hatchery so PM Kwark. The benefits of us recruiting you are: 1. You get a 21 day trial instead of 14 2. When you sub because this game is awesome the person who invited you gets 30 days free
I'm downloading the trial now(20 mins left), I'm going to first play around with the game to see if I like it from face value, if I find it in my taste I'll PM Kwark. Now that you've said that you shouldn't see the character unless you're bad.. Guess who's going to consciously think 'I saw the character.. God damnit I'm bad"
Thanks for the help!
That's usually a bad idea. Playing this game solo is likely to give you an aneurism.
On November 30 2011 00:30 SECONDCIRCLE wrote: I'm waiting for server to get up to head to the hatchery pub channel. Of course they do maintence on the day I have off. Although this new patch looks like it added some pretty cool stuff.
Major patch day....I'm still downloading the patch T.T
On November 30 2011 00:41 Fishes wrote: Alright I'm online on my account, got 700m in the bank but it seems.. christ plexes have gotten really expensive now Used to be 300-350m now 450-500 in Jita.
There's been a bunch of recent promotions (3 plex for 6 month alt) that have spiked prices pretty hard
On November 29 2011 23:49 Fishes wrote: Anybody online right now? I am going to reactivate my acc for the 4 hours and see if I can still afford a plex. If not, would anyone be willing to trade me one? I'm sure I have enough in assets to cover for that at least or I can pay you back later.
On November 30 2011 07:38 TurpinOS wrote: As a former Hatchery pilot for close to a year (who had to quit due to studies), I fully endorse this product.
Body shield is the man even though I have no clue how he manages to have the time to deal with everything.
It's a 1.4gb download, something like 4gb of disk space. Supporting yourself with in game money is easy. Trading is done through several means: open market, contracting, and direct trade.
Free market rather than centralised. There are naturally forming hubs out of convenience but these are dictated by player preference rather than from above. All prices etc are pure supply and demand.
On December 11 2011 05:57 tofucake wrote: It's a 1.4gb download, something like 4gb of disk space. Supporting yourself with in game money is easy. Trading is done through several means: open market, contracting, and direct trade.
mmh trade part sounds good but i just started that installer and it says it needs 18gb. cant free that up atm (refuse to buy a hard drive at current insane prices).
My break is coming up. I will be able to play about 3 hours a day maybe more. Is this enough to support myself ingame with out having to pay real USD money? Been wanting to try this game for a while.
On December 11 2011 14:17 Fealthas wrote: My break is coming up. I will be able to play about 3 hours a day maybe more. Is this enough to support myself ingame with out having to pay real USD money? Been wanting to try this game for a while.
Easily. Once you're set up you can make a plex (month game time) in a few hours. Getting in that position may take a month or so but you can salvage and make the money in 20 hours or so.
I was one of those people who tried this game a few years ago, and gave up after a week or so of blundering around. This reeeaaaally makes me want to come back and try again now. So, downloading now...
Looking forward to joining the Hatchery when I'm all installed!
I'm really interested in joining this, finally. I remember reading the old EVE Corporation thread on TL, not making the requirements or thinking I could, and walking away. Then my computer died, so I really had no chance.
But break is coming up, and if I can truly pay for the game time with in game currency, then I'm totally in. I'd love to die in a Rifter and make money being a supply runner (if I can even do that)/pirate/scavenger on the side.
I I can't start now until I finish my paper, lolol, but I'll be downloading the game in the meantime. I just have to send a PM to one of those people in the OP, correct?
which brings me to another question, i just followed the link in the OP and get a german installer. does that mean it installs a german version of the game? cause i absolutely dont want that.
Hi I'm from the Philippines so I will probably have 200ms latency. Will this affect pvp too much like in other online games? Also will it be possible for me to earn real money from this? Just for extra cash. I have all the time in the world right now to do anything I want.
I tried the trial out a few years ago, liked the game just didn't have anyone to play with. Alas, I am downloading the trial once again to give it another try. Do you all still use the TL TS3?
I wish i have heard of this earlier , I had always want to play EVE online but stopped after a week of playing due to lack of direction and minimal player interaction.
Well best of luck to you guys , I know how intimidating eve online can be and this thread will most definitely help alot of new players
As probably one of the most bitter vets who are off EvE for quite some time now I fully endorse this project. Getting to the point where you need a training corp without failsaucing is pretty damn cool. At least, I think I read that somewhere. Huehue.
So cool to finally see lossmails with solid fits. <3
On December 18 2011 11:24 adrenaLinG wrote: Do you guys have 0.0 space yet?
Nop and don't want/intend to.
... how do you expect to recruit people without 0.0 space >
By being good at this game, something not a single 0.0 alliance can offer. There is literally zero advantage to holding sov, the isk is pretty poor for your average alliance member, the PvP is boring (grinding down millions of hp on structures), the people are retarded and fleet fights become "who can bring more?". If you think holding sov is the endgame then that's just because you simply can't understand the awesomeness of what we do on a daily basis. We could walk into any alliance in eve and be their best PvPers. Any regular fleet member I've trained could be a paid smallgang FC in any alliance in eve. If we were willing to get involved in diplomacy pretty much any big alliance would give us space in exchange for blueing them and coming to their CTAs.
We spend a lot of time in 0.0 killing the fleets of the big alliances with highly mobile small gangs while they can do nothing to us. If the PvP between big alliances can be imagined as two men fighting then we are a disease those men catch. We course through their blood stream tiring them, slowing them down, draining them, breeding inside them and they can no more stop us than a man could punch the common cold. And that is why I expect to be able to recruit people.
I used to play Eve like... hmm two years ago I guess. Had a char with 20m-ish sp etc. Sadly I had to quit because it was boring without a corp and had some real-life stuff to do.
For last 1-2 months I have been thinking about reactivating my account and this thread surely tempting me to do so but I'm still very tied up with work and I'm afraid that Eve will take too much time. Maybe ( hopefully ) in a few months I'll get an easy job and will have time to play!
I'm posting this just to say hi, show my appreciation and support; keep up the good work!
And actually speaking of Eve, there is one thing I would like to ask. I'm actually a programmer and worked a little with Eve api before, even got 2nd place in a pretty big eve app contest etc. Now I feel extremely guilty when/if I stop coding and play the game but I sure can code if there is a need for an application.
When I quit the web clients for char api was pretty popular for example, but I imagine there is a dozen of them now. So I would LOVE to hear if eve players needs any kind of applications these days ( through PM I guess, I'm aware that its kinda off topic, sorry about that ). That way I might get involved without the guilt of playing the game
On December 19 2011 06:20 ArcticVanguard wrote: Ooh, I'd love to get involved in this, except I kind of wasted my trial and I don't have money for additional months.
On December 18 2011 11:24 adrenaLinG wrote: Do you guys have 0.0 space yet?
Nop and don't want/intend to.
... how do you expect to recruit people without 0.0 space >
By being good at this game, something not a single 0.0 alliance can offer. There is literally zero advantage to holding sov, the isk is pretty poor for your average alliance member, the PvP is boring (grinding down millions of hp on structures), the people are retarded and fleet fights become "who can bring more?". If you think holding sov is the endgame then that's just because you simply can't understand the awesomeness of what we do on a daily basis. We could walk into any alliance in eve and be their best PvPers. Any regular fleet member I've trained could be a paid smallgang FC in any alliance in eve. If we were willing to get involved in diplomacy pretty much any big alliance would give us space in exchange for blueing them and coming to their CTAs.
We spend a lot of time in 0.0 killing the fleets of the big alliances with highly mobile small gangs while they can do nothing to us. If the PvP between big alliances can be imagined as two men fighting then we are a disease those men catch. We course through their blood stream tiring them, slowing them down, draining them, breeding inside them and they can no more stop us than a man could punch the common cold. And that is why I expect to be able to recruit people.
Yeah but a large part of the game is held in the diplomacy and economics side of PvP.
Also 0.0 space is important so newbies can do PI/salvaging/ratting to get the money to afford ships for combat. Otherwise they would just be mooching off the plunder by flying frigates in gang fights and the entire corp would be operating under a sort of communist approach with giving ships out and sharing the spoils of war.
There's nothing wrong with that, but I think there is way more to the game than just being a de facto pirate corporation roaming space and setting up ganks/camps against 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies.
On December 18 2011 11:24 adrenaLinG wrote: Do you guys have 0.0 space yet?
Nop and don't want/intend to.
... how do you expect to recruit people without 0.0 space >
By being good at this game, something not a single 0.0 alliance can offer. There is literally zero advantage to holding sov, the isk is pretty poor for your average alliance member, the PvP is boring (grinding down millions of hp on structures), the people are retarded and fleet fights become "who can bring more?". If you think holding sov is the endgame then that's just because you simply can't understand the awesomeness of what we do on a daily basis. We could walk into any alliance in eve and be their best PvPers. Any regular fleet member I've trained could be a paid smallgang FC in any alliance in eve. If we were willing to get involved in diplomacy pretty much any big alliance would give us space in exchange for blueing them and coming to their CTAs.
We spend a lot of time in 0.0 killing the fleets of the big alliances with highly mobile small gangs while they can do nothing to us. If the PvP between big alliances can be imagined as two men fighting then we are a disease those men catch. We course through their blood stream tiring them, slowing them down, draining them, breeding inside them and they can no more stop us than a man could punch the common cold. And that is why I expect to be able to recruit people.
Yeah but a large part of the game is held in the diplomacy and economics side of PvP.
Also 0.0 space is important so newbies can do PI/salvaging/ratting to get the money to afford ships for combat. Otherwise they would just be mooching off the plunder by flying frigates in gang fights and the entire corp would be operating under a sort of communist approach with giving ships out and sharing the spoils of war.
There's nothing wrong with that, but I think there is way more to the game than just being a de facto pirate corporation roaming space and setting up ganks/camps against 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies.
Pirates are cool. Down with the Empire >:O
I don't play EVE and I kinda want to join cause I hear great things about it and it sounds intriguing but I gotta study for LSATs first :[
On December 18 2011 11:24 adrenaLinG wrote: Do you guys have 0.0 space yet?
Nop and don't want/intend to.
... how do you expect to recruit people without 0.0 space >
By being good at this game, something not a single 0.0 alliance can offer. There is literally zero advantage to holding sov, the isk is pretty poor for your average alliance member, the PvP is boring (grinding down millions of hp on structures), the people are retarded and fleet fights become "who can bring more?". If you think holding sov is the endgame then that's just because you simply can't understand the awesomeness of what we do on a daily basis. We could walk into any alliance in eve and be their best PvPers. Any regular fleet member I've trained could be a paid smallgang FC in any alliance in eve. If we were willing to get involved in diplomacy pretty much any big alliance would give us space in exchange for blueing them and coming to their CTAs.
We spend a lot of time in 0.0 killing the fleets of the big alliances with highly mobile small gangs while they can do nothing to us. If the PvP between big alliances can be imagined as two men fighting then we are a disease those men catch. We course through their blood stream tiring them, slowing them down, draining them, breeding inside them and they can no more stop us than a man could punch the common cold. And that is why I expect to be able to recruit people.
Yeah but a large part of the game is held in the diplomacy and economics side of PvP.
Also 0.0 space is important so newbies can do PI/salvaging/ratting to get the money to afford ships for combat. Otherwise they would just be mooching off the plunder by flying frigates in gang fights and the entire corp would be operating under a sort of communist approach with giving ships out and sharing the spoils of war.
There's nothing wrong with that, but I think there is way more to the game than just being a de facto pirate corporation roaming space and setting up ganks/camps against 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies.
Pirates are cool. Down with the Empire >:O
I don't play EVE and I kinda want to join cause I hear great things about it and it sounds intriguing but I gotta study for LSATs first :[
No, you should play EVE there are no jobs in law and no one like lawyers
EvE does sound pretty cool and I've considered joining for a long time, but I'm pretty much done with paying a monthly subscription for anything since I quit WoW 5+ years ago. It also seems so damn complex that it would be quite a time commitment, and SC2 has a pretty solid monopoly on my somewhat limited gaming time.
On December 11 2011 14:17 Fealthas wrote: My break is coming up. I will be able to play about 3 hours a day maybe more. Is this enough to support myself ingame with out having to pay real USD money? Been wanting to try this game for a while.
Easily. Once you're set up you can make a plex (month game time) in a few hours. Getting in that position may take a month or so but you can salvage and make the money in 20 hours or so.
Whoa, what? Seems too good to be true. I wouldn't have thought they'd give up their subscription fee so easily.
On December 19 2011 10:57 3clipse wrote: EvE does sound pretty cool and I've considered joining for a long time, but I'm pretty much done with paying a monthly subscription for anything since I quit WoW 5+ years ago. It also seems so damn complex that it would be quite a time commitment, and SC2 has a pretty solid monopoly on my somewhat limited gaming time.
On December 11 2011 14:17 Fealthas wrote: My break is coming up. I will be able to play about 3 hours a day maybe more. Is this enough to support myself ingame with out having to pay real USD money? Been wanting to try this game for a while.
Easily. Once you're set up you can make a plex (month game time) in a few hours. Getting in that position may take a month or so but you can salvage and make the money in 20 hours or so.
Whoa, what? Seems too good to be true. I wouldn't have thought they'd give up their subscription fee so easily.
They don't give it up. Other players buy game time they don't want and then sell it to players who want game time for isk.
It actually massively increases their sales because it makes having alt accounts economically rational provided they make more than it costs. I myself have over 20 accounts.
Basically they've legalised RMT in their game as long as it goes through them. Also eve has a somewhat maturer demographic who have jobs and money and don't mind putting it into the game.
On December 18 2011 11:24 adrenaLinG wrote: Do you guys have 0.0 space yet?
Nop and don't want/intend to.
... how do you expect to recruit people without 0.0 space >
By being good at this game, something not a single 0.0 alliance can offer. There is literally zero advantage to holding sov, the isk is pretty poor for your average alliance member, the PvP is boring (grinding down millions of hp on structures), the people are retarded and fleet fights become "who can bring more?". If you think holding sov is the endgame then that's just because you simply can't understand the awesomeness of what we do on a daily basis. We could walk into any alliance in eve and be their best PvPers. Any regular fleet member I've trained could be a paid smallgang FC in any alliance in eve. If we were willing to get involved in diplomacy pretty much any big alliance would give us space in exchange for blueing them and coming to their CTAs.
We spend a lot of time in 0.0 killing the fleets of the big alliances with highly mobile small gangs while they can do nothing to us. If the PvP between big alliances can be imagined as two men fighting then we are a disease those men catch. We course through their blood stream tiring them, slowing them down, draining them, breeding inside them and they can no more stop us than a man could punch the common cold. And that is why I expect to be able to recruit people.
Yeah but a large part of the game is held in the diplomacy and economics side of PvP.
Also 0.0 space is important so newbies can do PI/salvaging/ratting to get the money to afford ships for combat. Otherwise they would just be mooching off the plunder by flying frigates in gang fights and the entire corp would be operating under a sort of communist approach with giving ships out and sharing the spoils of war.
There's nothing wrong with that, but I think there is way more to the game than just being a de facto pirate corporation roaming space and setting up ganks/camps against 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies.
On December 18 2011 11:24 adrenaLinG wrote: Do you guys have 0.0 space yet?
Nop and don't want/intend to.
... how do you expect to recruit people without 0.0 space >
By being good at this game, something not a single 0.0 alliance can offer. There is literally zero advantage to holding sov, the isk is pretty poor for your average alliance member, the PvP is boring (grinding down millions of hp on structures), the people are retarded and fleet fights become "who can bring more?". If you think holding sov is the endgame then that's just because you simply can't understand the awesomeness of what we do on a daily basis. We could walk into any alliance in eve and be their best PvPers. Any regular fleet member I've trained could be a paid smallgang FC in any alliance in eve. If we were willing to get involved in diplomacy pretty much any big alliance would give us space in exchange for blueing them and coming to their CTAs.
We spend a lot of time in 0.0 killing the fleets of the big alliances with highly mobile small gangs while they can do nothing to us. If the PvP between big alliances can be imagined as two men fighting then we are a disease those men catch. We course through their blood stream tiring them, slowing them down, draining them, breeding inside them and they can no more stop us than a man could punch the common cold. And that is why I expect to be able to recruit people.
Yeah but a large part of the game is held in the diplomacy and economics side of PvP.
Also 0.0 space is important so newbies can do PI/salvaging/ratting to get the money to afford ships for combat. Otherwise they would just be mooching off the plunder by flying frigates in gang fights and the entire corp would be operating under a sort of communist approach with giving ships out and sharing the spoils of war.
There's nothing wrong with that, but I think there is way more to the game than just being a de facto pirate corporation roaming space and setting up ganks/camps against 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies.
Ganks and camps? That's what you think we do? We go to VFK, the capital systems of goonfleet, and we chill out outside Mittanigrad with 6 or so guys until they undock 20 on us and then we kill them all without loss. In smaller, cheaper ships. On a regular basis. We're that good.
Unfortunately actually trying to explain the hatchery to an eve pubbie is like trying to explain the OSL to someone who played the bw campaign in 2001.
On December 18 2011 11:24 adrenaLinG wrote: Do you guys have 0.0 space yet?
Nop and don't want/intend to.
... how do you expect to recruit people without 0.0 space >
By being good at this game, something not a single 0.0 alliance can offer. There is literally zero advantage to holding sov, the isk is pretty poor for your average alliance member, the PvP is boring (grinding down millions of hp on structures), the people are retarded and fleet fights become "who can bring more?". If you think holding sov is the endgame then that's just because you simply can't understand the awesomeness of what we do on a daily basis. We could walk into any alliance in eve and be their best PvPers. Any regular fleet member I've trained could be a paid smallgang FC in any alliance in eve. If we were willing to get involved in diplomacy pretty much any big alliance would give us space in exchange for blueing them and coming to their CTAs.
We spend a lot of time in 0.0 killing the fleets of the big alliances with highly mobile small gangs while they can do nothing to us. If the PvP between big alliances can be imagined as two men fighting then we are a disease those men catch. We course through their blood stream tiring them, slowing them down, draining them, breeding inside them and they can no more stop us than a man could punch the common cold. And that is why I expect to be able to recruit people.
Yeah but a large part of the game is held in the diplomacy and economics side of PvP.
Also 0.0 space is important so newbies can do PI/salvaging/ratting to get the money to afford ships for combat. Otherwise they would just be mooching off the plunder by flying frigates in gang fights and the entire corp would be operating under a sort of communist approach with giving ships out and sharing the spoils of war.
There's nothing wrong with that, but I think there is way more to the game than just being a de facto pirate corporation roaming space and setting up ganks/camps against 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies.
On December 18 2011 11:24 adrenaLinG wrote: Do you guys have 0.0 space yet?
Nop and don't want/intend to.
... how do you expect to recruit people without 0.0 space >
By being good at this game, something not a single 0.0 alliance can offer. There is literally zero advantage to holding sov, the isk is pretty poor for your average alliance member, the PvP is boring (grinding down millions of hp on structures), the people are retarded and fleet fights become "who can bring more?". If you think holding sov is the endgame then that's just because you simply can't understand the awesomeness of what we do on a daily basis. We could walk into any alliance in eve and be their best PvPers. Any regular fleet member I've trained could be a paid smallgang FC in any alliance in eve. If we were willing to get involved in diplomacy pretty much any big alliance would give us space in exchange for blueing them and coming to their CTAs.
We spend a lot of time in 0.0 killing the fleets of the big alliances with highly mobile small gangs while they can do nothing to us. If the PvP between big alliances can be imagined as two men fighting then we are a disease those men catch. We course through their blood stream tiring them, slowing them down, draining them, breeding inside them and they can no more stop us than a man could punch the common cold. And that is why I expect to be able to recruit people.
Yeah but a large part of the game is held in the diplomacy and economics side of PvP.
Also 0.0 space is important so newbies can do PI/salvaging/ratting to get the money to afford ships for combat. Otherwise they would just be mooching off the plunder by flying frigates in gang fights and the entire corp would be operating under a sort of communist approach with giving ships out and sharing the spoils of war.
There's nothing wrong with that, but I think there is way more to the game than just being a de facto pirate corporation roaming space and setting up ganks/camps against 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies.
Ganks and camps? That's what you think we do? We go to VFK, the capital systems of goonfleet, and we chill out outside Mittanigrad with 6 or so guys until they undock 20 on us and then we kill them all without loss. In smaller, cheaper ships. On a regular basis. We're that good.
Unfortunately actually trying to explain the hatchery to an eve pubbie is like trying to explain the OSL to someone who played the bw campaign in 2001.
That's.. what a camp is.
And isn't this what this thread is supposed to do -- explain the hatchery to an "eve pubbie"?
I find it ironic you're insulting the very people you're trying to recruit and using BW references.
On December 18 2011 11:24 adrenaLinG wrote: Do you guys have 0.0 space yet?
Nop and don't want/intend to.
... how do you expect to recruit people without 0.0 space >
By being good at this game, something not a single 0.0 alliance can offer. There is literally zero advantage to holding sov, the isk is pretty poor for your average alliance member, the PvP is boring (grinding down millions of hp on structures), the people are retarded and fleet fights become "who can bring more?". If you think holding sov is the endgame then that's just because you simply can't understand the awesomeness of what we do on a daily basis. We could walk into any alliance in eve and be their best PvPers. Any regular fleet member I've trained could be a paid smallgang FC in any alliance in eve. If we were willing to get involved in diplomacy pretty much any big alliance would give us space in exchange for blueing them and coming to their CTAs.
We spend a lot of time in 0.0 killing the fleets of the big alliances with highly mobile small gangs while they can do nothing to us. If the PvP between big alliances can be imagined as two men fighting then we are a disease those men catch. We course through their blood stream tiring them, slowing them down, draining them, breeding inside them and they can no more stop us than a man could punch the common cold. And that is why I expect to be able to recruit people.
Yeah but a large part of the game is held in the diplomacy and economics side of PvP.
Also 0.0 space is important so newbies can do PI/salvaging/ratting to get the money to afford ships for combat. Otherwise they would just be mooching off the plunder by flying frigates in gang fights and the entire corp would be operating under a sort of communist approach with giving ships out and sharing the spoils of war.
There's nothing wrong with that, but I think there is way more to the game than just being a de facto pirate corporation roaming space and setting up ganks/camps against 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies.
On December 18 2011 11:24 adrenaLinG wrote: Do you guys have 0.0 space yet?
Nop and don't want/intend to.
... how do you expect to recruit people without 0.0 space >
By being good at this game, something not a single 0.0 alliance can offer. There is literally zero advantage to holding sov, the isk is pretty poor for your average alliance member, the PvP is boring (grinding down millions of hp on structures), the people are retarded and fleet fights become "who can bring more?". If you think holding sov is the endgame then that's just because you simply can't understand the awesomeness of what we do on a daily basis. We could walk into any alliance in eve and be their best PvPers. Any regular fleet member I've trained could be a paid smallgang FC in any alliance in eve. If we were willing to get involved in diplomacy pretty much any big alliance would give us space in exchange for blueing them and coming to their CTAs.
We spend a lot of time in 0.0 killing the fleets of the big alliances with highly mobile small gangs while they can do nothing to us. If the PvP between big alliances can be imagined as two men fighting then we are a disease those men catch. We course through their blood stream tiring them, slowing them down, draining them, breeding inside them and they can no more stop us than a man could punch the common cold. And that is why I expect to be able to recruit people.
Yeah but a large part of the game is held in the diplomacy and economics side of PvP.
Also 0.0 space is important so newbies can do PI/salvaging/ratting to get the money to afford ships for combat. Otherwise they would just be mooching off the plunder by flying frigates in gang fights and the entire corp would be operating under a sort of communist approach with giving ships out and sharing the spoils of war.
There's nothing wrong with that, but I think there is way more to the game than just being a de facto pirate corporation roaming space and setting up ganks/camps against 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies.
Ganks and camps? That's what you think we do? We go to VFK, the capital systems of goonfleet, and we chill out outside Mittanigrad with 6 or so guys until they undock 20 on us and then we kill them all without loss. In smaller, cheaper ships. On a regular basis. We're that good.
Unfortunately actually trying to explain the hatchery to an eve pubbie is like trying to explain the OSL to someone who played the bw campaign in 2001.
That's.. what a camp is.
And isn't this what this thread is supposed to do -- explain the hatchery to an "eve pubbie"?
I find it ironic you're insulting the very people you're trying to recruit and using BW references.
Camping is setting up an advantageous situation for yourself, often relying on surprise, to kill people who don't really want to fight. What we do is take a small gang into the heart of the biggest alliance we can find and take on whatever they muster to get rid of us. We then attack whatever they put together to clean us out and kill it with a smaller, inferior fleet by superior skill.
While eve pubbies should feel insulted by an accurate assessment of the difference in understanding between us and them that doesn't mean I'm trying to be offensive, it just means the average eve player is completely clueless.
We actually fly to their home, lighting up all their intel channels, and when we get there we say "come out and fight us". If they don't after a bit we go somewhere else. This is called a "roam".
If we were to go to their home and sit there for hours on end regardless of what they did, we'd be camping.
I also find your thought process rather typical of a null alliance member, ie: anyone in empire is bad and pros only live in null.
We prove that line of thought not just wrong, but outright retarded. Daily.
You guys just gave definitions of camping that just contradicted each other. It's not really a surprise/advantageous situation if you're going to their home and sitting there for hours. And even in "roams" you have intel and scouts ahead of the gang, so that in itself is an advantageous situation as well.
I never said anything about empire being bad and pros only living in 0.0. All corps start somewhere, even the hatchery started in empire. It's not an "outright retarded" line of thought to say that 0.0 has things that matter. You can be in low-sec space and have an amazing corporation with talented PvP pilots. And if you're killing larger gangs with a smaller gang of crappier ships, you are superior PvP pilots. But there's more to the game than that.
That's like spending your entire SC2 career on cheese and one base plays and all ins. Sure, you can be an excellent player and dominate to Grand Masters with that. But there's a little more that SC2 has to offer.
And I don't see the aversion to 0.0 space because holding space doesn't threaten any of your PvP objectives, especially if it helps newbies become independent and not have to mooch for spaceships and fittings constantly. PvP is fun, but I like other things, too.
But an elitist attitude to Eve about being superior pilots to "null alliance members" is certainly a thing to take away, like the TL posters from the BW era that complained about the flood of SC2 "newbies".
If we sov we suddenly have to defend something. We don't feel like having to be on at time X because a bunch of people shot our stuff and that's how much fuel we have. Our roams don't have intel, we have a scout jump through before our gang, and if it's clear we jump. Compared to owning and having people in every system around your home for 10 jumps in every direction, and then blues for 40 jumps after that, a scout is hardly advantageous.
And it is retarded. I'll quote you here: "against 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies". You just said only null players are pilots, and everyone else is bad. You keep talking like holding sov is endgame. What sov actually is is a giant pain in the ass.
We didn't contradict each other, actually. A camp is something someone jumps/undocks into unsuspectingly. When they know we've been moving and where we are headed half an hour in advance...we aren't camping.
Your quote is out of this context: "setting up ganks/camps against 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies." Nowhere did I say "Eve is made up of 0.0 pilots and low-sec empire pubbies." I never said holding sov is endgame. I said holding sov has obvious advantages.
On December 19 2011 12:25 adrenaLinG wrote: You guys just gave definitions of camping that just contradicted each other. It's not really a surprise/advantageous situation if you're going to their home and sitting there for hours.
We never do this. Except camping does actually happen...but more of a random occurrence that we're fighting on a gate, then slowly ships just jump into us continuously, and we might as well kill them as well
On December 19 2011 12:25 adrenaLinG wrote: And even in "roams" you have intel and scouts ahead of the gang, so that in itself is an advantageous situation as well.
Everyone attempting pvp in eve has scouts.
On December 19 2011 12:25 adrenaLinG wrote: I never said anything about empire being bad and pros only living in 0.0. All corps start somewhere, even the hatchery started in empire. It's not an "outright retarded" line of thought to say that 0.0 has things that matter. You can be in low-sec space and have an amazing corporation with talented PvP pilots. And if you're killing larger gangs with a smaller gang of crappier ships, you are superior PvP pilots. But there's more to the game than that.
This is true, we also do manufacturing, missioning, probing, playing the market, it all depends on what the players want to do. We want people to do things they want in the game, with their actual instruction in PvP coming from us.
On December 19 2011 12:25 adrenaLinG wrote: And I don't see the aversion to 0.0 space because holding space doesn't threaten any of your PvP objectives, especially if it helps newbies become independent and not have to mooch for spaceships and fittings constantly. PvP is fun, but I like other things, too.
0.0 Space is actually not good, any money generator in 0.0 can be matched and/or exceeded by lowsec and highsec. If you'd like an example, please ask.
On December 19 2011 12:25 adrenaLinG wrote: But an elitist attitude to Eve about being superior pilots to "null alliance members" is certainly a thing to take away, like the TL posters from the BW era that complained about the flood of SC2 "newbies".
That's not really a valid comparison to this situation. But I'll see if I can't tackle it. Let's say you're in a nullsec pvp group. I would postulate that the larger the group, the more pilots fall under the "target and f1, rely on logi pilots and maybe one or two guys that actually know what's going on"; our style forces each pilot to take care of themselves, while following orders. This gives our entire fleet the ability to fight larger fleets, as to quote 300: "I've brought more soldiers than you."
On December 19 2011 12:40 Body_Shield wrote: Does this help?
Yes. Your post was much more helpful than the other guys.
Questions:
What do you think about Pandemic Legion, who has a very similar approach to Eve?
How do you help new players to the game who want to be financially independent from the corp after starting out to eventually afford PLEX and not have to pay real money? Since being a tackler in a rifter is fun, but it doesn't get you money.
Also I wasn't really making a comparison, it was a way to say that the guys responding to my post and acting smug about Eve PvP are the same kind of BW posters that were the same when TL exploded after SC2 was released (and many still are today, if you read the BW threads).
On December 19 2011 12:51 adrenaLinG wrote: Yes. Your post was much more helpful than the other guys.
Questions:
What do you think about Pandemic Legion, who has a very similar approach to Eve?
PL certainly have more hardware and pilots than we do, but we haven't interacted with them enough for me to comment on them.
On December 19 2011 12:51 adrenaLinG wrote: How do you help new players to the game who want to be financially independent from the corp after starting out to eventually afford PLEX and not have to pay real money? Since being a tackler in a rifter is fun, but it doesn't get you money.
Well, there's only so much you can do as a new player, but we have some guides on a bunch of different things. Salvaging is a common start, a couple of the guys are big on site probing. Bunch of the new guys are into missioning now.
On December 19 2011 12:51 adrenaLinG wrote: Also I wasn't really making a comparison, it was a way to say that the guys responding to my post and acting smug about Eve PvP are the same kind of BW posters that were the same when TL exploded after SC2 was released (and many still are today, if you read the BW threads).
EVE is pretty adversarial, chock it up to a little bit of bitter vet syndrome. I can be the same way at times, aka after I did about 100 jumps flying stuff around for little to no reward. + Show Spoiler +
On December 19 2011 12:40 Body_Shield wrote: Does this help?
Yes. Your post was much more helpful than the other guys.
Questions:
What do you think about Pandemic Legion, who has a very similar approach to Eve?
How do you help new players to the game who want to be financially independent from the corp after starting out to eventually afford PLEX and not have to pay real money? Since being a tackler in a rifter is fun, but it doesn't get you money.
PL are, in general, no less terrible than any other big blob. Everyone in eve is terrible.
Tackle rifter is independent of PvE. Even the brand new Spawning Pool players can afford at least two accounts with plex. A guy called Tarias joined Spawning Pool about a month ago, has never put any real $ into the game and currently has 4 accounts including one he bought for 9b isk.
On December 19 2011 12:40 Body_Shield wrote: Does this help?
Yes. Your post was much more helpful than the other guys.
Questions:
What do you think about Pandemic Legion, who has a very similar approach to Eve?
How do you help new players to the game who want to be financially independent from the corp after starting out to eventually afford PLEX and not have to pay real money? Since being a tackler in a rifter is fun, but it doesn't get you money.
PL are, in general, no less terrible than any other big blob. Everyone in eve is terrible.
Tackle rifter is independent of PvE. Even the brand new Spawning Pool players can afford at least two accounts with plex. A guy called Tarias joined Spawning Pool about a month ago, has never put any real $ into the game and currently has 4 accounts including one he bought for 9b isk.
On December 19 2011 12:40 Body_Shield wrote: Does this help?
Yes. Your post was much more helpful than the other guys.
Questions:
What do you think about Pandemic Legion, who has a very similar approach to Eve?
How do you help new players to the game who want to be financially independent from the corp after starting out to eventually afford PLEX and not have to pay real money? Since being a tackler in a rifter is fun, but it doesn't get you money.
PL are, in general, no less terrible than any other big blob. Everyone in eve is terrible.
Tackle rifter is independent of PvE. Even the brand new Spawning Pool players can afford at least two accounts with plex. A guy called Tarias joined Spawning Pool about a month ago, has never put any real $ into the game and currently has 4 accounts including one he bought for 9b isk.
Actually I used some mturk money to subscribe my own account when I started out, so not entirely true there.
Now you might look at that battlereport and think it was an even fight, but alas, goons would never dare to engage in a 1:1 fight. It was more like
Actually, i c what u did there.
On December 20 2011 07:05 xeus wrote: E: anyone interested in joining goonwaffe, 0.0 multiple region alliance, feel fee to pm me.
aply join From: ..... To: Mara Myra INBOX yo, as i say i have problems with my recruit officer, i pay the colateral and now im w8 for code what i need 4 aply join in game. problem is i send him the money and on the web is still NOT PAYED but i have proof i pay, in my walet transaction, and atm he blocked me. tx for tryin help me. Bella Rugente
I just sent the PMs. Seems pretty cool, but being a noob in a well-established MMO means I'll probably be scammed and mugged within 5 minutes of joining.
On December 20 2011 08:30 Sard Caid wrote: This is a decent place to start in the game. Great FCs, great handle on establishing yourself in the game and teaching that to others.
On December 20 2011 08:30 Sard Caid wrote: This is a decent place to start in the game. Great FCs, great handle on establishing yourself in the game and teaching that to others.
On December 20 2011 08:30 Sard Caid wrote: This is a decent place to start in the game. Great FCs, great handle on establishing yourself in the game and teaching that to others.
Downloading the trial atm. I have tried this game before, but got bored of it after the 14 days due to being alone the entire time. But admittedly, its been a while. Does it matter at all what race I choose and so on?
Oh hey one question, how do you make an account? and is it free? because the only thing i see about it being free is the 14 day trial o.o (yes, im super stingy on video games :D )
On December 20 2011 11:39 LanTAs wrote: Oh hey one question, how do you make an account? and is it free? because the only thing i see about it being free is the 14 day trial o.o (yes, im super stingy on video games :D )
If I'm not entirely mistaken, the game itself is free, but you pay a monthly fee.
On December 20 2011 11:39 LanTAs wrote: Oh hey one question, how do you make an account? and is it free? because the only thing i see about it being free is the 14 day trial o.o (yes, im super stingy on video games :D )
You create a 14-day trial, log into the game, Talk to one of our recruitment people in the channel 'Hatchery Pub', they send you a 21-day trial. It's free if you make enough isk, which many of the new guys have done.
On December 20 2011 11:39 LanTAs wrote: Oh hey one question, how do you make an account? and is it free? because the only thing i see about it being free is the 14 day trial o.o (yes, im super stingy on video games :D )
You create a 14-day trial, log into the game, Talk to one of our recruitment people in the channel 'Hatchery Pub', they send you a 21-day trial. It's free if you make enough isk, which many of the new guys have done.
does the 21 day trial add on top of the 14, or you have to make a new account?
On December 20 2011 11:39 LanTAs wrote: Oh hey one question, how do you make an account? and is it free? because the only thing i see about it being free is the 14 day trial o.o (yes, im super stingy on video games :D )
You create a 14-day trial, log into the game, Talk to one of our recruitment people in the channel 'Hatchery Pub', they send you a 21-day trial. It's free if you make enough isk, which many of the new guys have done.
does the 21 day trial add on top of the 14, or you have to make a new account?
On December 20 2011 23:43 Excludos wrote: Seems the trial is extremely limited. I'm barely out of the training area and theres already a ship the game wont let me train to use >.<
Which is why you contact us and we get you a full account.
On December 20 2011 23:43 Excludos wrote: Seems the trial is extremely limited. I'm barely out of the training area and theres already a ship the game wont let me train to use >.<
Uhh, all i can think of that you could use to any decent level in the first 2 weeks would be basic industrials? If you are trying to train for a tech 2 ship, or for a battlecruiser "barely out of the training area" you are doing it wrong. The trial limitations are really not that harsh, the only thing that you could actuly fly effectively to any degree worth mentioning in the 14 day trial would be the hauler i think and it is limited so people dont make like 20 trial accounts for moving shit around and fucking with the economy, etc
On December 20 2011 23:43 Excludos wrote: Seems the trial is extremely limited. I'm barely out of the training area and theres already a ship the game wont let me train to use >.<
Uhh, all i can think of that you could use to any decent level in the first 2 weeks would be basic industrials? If you are trying to train for a tech 2 ship, or for a battlecruiser "barely out of the training area" you are doing it wrong. The trial limitations are really not that harsh, the only thing that you could actuly fly effectively to any degree worth mentioning in the 14 day trial would be the hauler i think and it is limited so people dont make like 20 trial accounts for moving shit around and fucking with the economy, etc
It wont let me train industrial lvl 1.. Which I require to handle a ship I've now gotten from the basic training twice. I think thats a tad too limiting tbh. I understand the fear of having people reg a huge amount of free trials and abuse it, but this is a tad too much I'd think. This is a 14 day free trial after all, and I've hit the border of whats allowed a few hours in..
On December 20 2011 23:43 Excludos wrote: Seems the trial is extremely limited. I'm barely out of the training area and theres already a ship the game wont let me train to use >.<
Uhh, all i can think of that you could use to any decent level in the first 2 weeks would be basic industrials? If you are trying to train for a tech 2 ship, or for a battlecruiser "barely out of the training area" you are doing it wrong. The trial limitations are really not that harsh, the only thing that you could actuly fly effectively to any degree worth mentioning in the 14 day trial would be the hauler i think and it is limited so people dont make like 20 trial accounts for moving shit around and fucking with the economy, etc
It wont let me train industrial lvl 1.. Which I require to handle a ship I've now gotten from the basic training twice. I think thats a tad too limiting tbh. I understand the fear of having people reg a huge amount of free trials and abuse it, but this is a tad too much I'd think. This is a 14 day free trial after all, and I've hit the border of whats allowed a few hours in..
Industrials are boring and there has to be a limitation on it to stop abuse. If not being able to fly a transport ship and move space goods around on a trial is too restricted, despite all the PvP being open to you, you're a strange person.
I wonder, what do you do except for PvP? I have played EvE for two years, a few months at a time, but actually never PvPed. Except those times I thought I should save some time to go through low sec and got killed by a gate camper. Or when I was exploring and got owned by a curse... But none that I picked myself. I am a bit intressted in EVE PvP but other then that, do you guys go WH exploring, missioning or anyting similar?
We PvP as a corp. We do anything else we want to do in our own spare time. There are some of us that mission, some of us that market pvp, some that watch the contract screen 24/7, some that scam, some that infiltrate other corps to steal their stuff, some that do exploration, etc etc. And we do most of it better than 95% of EVE.
On December 20 2011 23:43 Excludos wrote: Seems the trial is extremely limited. I'm barely out of the training area and theres already a ship the game wont let me train to use >.<
Uhh, all i can think of that you could use to any decent level in the first 2 weeks would be basic industrials? If you are trying to train for a tech 2 ship, or for a battlecruiser "barely out of the training area" you are doing it wrong. The trial limitations are really not that harsh, the only thing that you could actuly fly effectively to any degree worth mentioning in the 14 day trial would be the hauler i think and it is limited so people dont make like 20 trial accounts for moving shit around and fucking with the economy, etc
It wont let me train industrial lvl 1.. Which I require to handle a ship I've now gotten from the basic training twice. I think thats a tad too limiting tbh. I understand the fear of having people reg a huge amount of free trials and abuse it, but this is a tad too much I'd think. This is a 14 day free trial after all, and I've hit the border of whats allowed a few hours in..
Industrials are the only true limit to the trial, and it is mandatory to prevent abuse as someone said a few posts back.
The tutorials are relatively new, dont worry about them - It gave me a shield booster in like the second mission on my newer alt and told me to equip it even though i needed to buy the skill for more than ten times what i had in my wallet, and then train it for 20 minutes or so.
Shit like that happens when they constantly update the tutorials to keep newer players happy, but almost nobody wants to test them
On December 23 2011 00:52 101.blubb wrote: god, i wish i had the time for this...
You do have the time for it.
I'm working a full time job, a part time job, and I just started playing a month and a half ago. I just made accounts 2 and 3 today, because I actually need them to do what I want to do. And I can quite easily pay for them already (through the use of the market and industry), even though I'm still a month away from a decent ship capable of giving me a stable income from missioning.....
You'd be surprised how little time you actually need for this game. And all I've invested is just purchasing my first account (was sick of not being able to use industrials during the trial).
Eve is the one game that sounds really cool in concept to me, but when I play, I'm generally pretty bored. I do however, have a deep respect for ccp's ability to make clips on youtube, they have some gorgeous videos on their channel.
Wow I definitely have missed the last 5 pages of this thread O.o
There were like 3 chances to bash kwark too, I am very sad now.
And to answer a general question, yes, salvaging on the second day of your trial will make you more isk/hour than most people will be making in their 2nd-3rd month, maybe more, (if they do something besides mine) of playing. I think its pretty comparable to the best mining you could ever do.
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On December 26 2011 14:04 TBone- wrote: Eve is the one game that sounds really cool in concept to me, but when I play, I'm generally pretty bored. I do however, have a deep respect for ccp's ability to make clips on youtube, they have some gorgeous videos on their channel.
I tried playing this game using my 14 day trial, had no flippin clue on what to do LOL. Pity that was quite some time ago, and that time i didn't know about TL >.<
Is there an option/mod that lets you turn off all sound, but an alarm will go off if an enemy is within range? I find myself alt tabbing a lot in this game when farming, but it would be annoying if you alt tab back to suddenly find yourself dead..
On December 27 2011 05:21 Firebolt145 wrote: 'Within range'?
By the sound of it you don't think this is a problem. And I don't have any experience to tell otherwise. But I would think for instance, if you're mining in a low security area, someone else jumps in and frags you, and you don't even notice it because you're alt tabbed could be a problem?
Was trying to figure out what you meant by within range. Range could be on grid, on dscan, within 100km, wasn't sure.
But no, there is no such thing. Best you can do is set your shield alert sound to alarm at 95% so you can be alerted upon any damage. But by then you usually can't escape.
I am trying very hard not to roll my eyes at you but honestly best advice I can give is...don't mine in lowsec and don't alt-tab in lowsec.
On December 27 2011 05:53 Firebolt145 wrote: Was trying to figure out what you meant by within range. Range could be on grid, on dscan, within 100km, wasn't sure.
But no, there is no such thing. Best you can do is set your shield alert sound to alarm at 95% so you can be alerted upon any damage. But by then you usually can't escape.
I am trying very hard not to roll my eyes at you but honestly best advice I can give is...don't mine in lowsec and don't alt-tab in lowsec.
Its ok. I know I'm sounding like an extreme noob ^-^ (because I am)
On December 27 2011 02:48 Excludos wrote: Is there an option/mod that lets you turn off all sound, but an alarm will go off if an enemy is within range? I find myself alt tabbing a lot in this game when farming, but it would be annoying if you alt tab back to suddenly find yourself dead..
If you aren't Kwark, then you don't want to tab out in a case where there is a possibility of something suddenly happening before you will have tabbed back in. Usually you will be fine if you alt tab frequently, even in lowsec, as long as you check local and your dscan every time. If you are mining in lowsec (dont do that) you will want to be aligned, but really there's always the chance of suddenly rapier, or anything else cloaky, and if you arent tabbed in to hit the warp button before they can lock, you will die.
I've been playing Faction-mod minecraft for a while, and I've been looking for something more. Is it possible to be a merchant who rolls around in an apocalyptic battlecruiser, destroying all who buy my product from the wrong source with a fist of steel? Because that is what I wish to do.
On December 27 2011 07:30 GigaFlop wrote: I've been playing Faction-mod minecraft for a while, and I've been looking for something more. Is it possible to be a merchant who rolls around in an apocalyptic battlecruiser, destroying all who buy my product from the wrong source with a fist of steel? Because that is what I wish to do.
Personally I would rather kill those who bought from me, so that they have to buy even more from me.
On December 27 2011 07:30 GigaFlop wrote: I've been playing Faction-mod minecraft for a while, and I've been looking for something more. Is it possible to be a merchant who rolls around in an apocalyptic battlecruiser, destroying all who buy my product from the wrong source with a fist of steel? Because that is what I wish to do.
Personally I would rather kill those who bought from me, so that they have to buy even more from me.
That would not be beneficial to business... IF I were to do that, it could only be infrequently, and only on big-ticket deals, while also being done by mercenaries hired by a rival company who I would then attack. Is that how things work?
I tried out EVE about half a year ago - it didn't turn out to be my cup of tea, but the TL members were extremely helpful and (mostly) patient with getting newbies started. I'd highly recommend anyone interested in the game to take advantage of the opportunity these guys are offering, working through the steep learning curve and unforgiving nature of the game is way more enjoyable when you have help.
On December 27 2011 18:09 Firebolt145 wrote: Oh sure it's not like we hit them on the same alts that we sell to them on.
Is combat easy enough to get into?
Really really easy to learn, hard to master. There are a lot of mechanics that affect damage output in different ways and generally quite a bit of math in that respect, but you can fly reasonably well (80+% possible damage output) i think by just orbiting things and hitting f1 once in a while.
In terms of actual war, roaming, or finding pvp targets, things can get a whole lot more complicated though
On December 28 2011 08:34 KryptoStorm wrote: Can't help but feel like this is one of those schemes were we're playing just to benefit the higher few.
You mean you play to benefit us, the 'veterans'? Nope.
We don't gain much by have you join. It would take most of us only about an hour or two to 'farm' the money that we save by having you join via the buddy program. We are truly just trying to make more people aware of this game.
Sure we also love having more rifters with us, but we also train those rifters up. We fully expect every rifter pilot to be flying a drake or whatever (one of them bigger ships) by about two months after they start playing. That time frame is primarily because of the time taken to train the necessary skills to fly a proper drake, not because 'we want more suicide tackle'.
If you are proactive and looking for action, you will find plenty of action in your rifter. The Spawning Pool is great for that because they have so many new people that they regularly roam in their cheap ships and have great fun while doing so. Sometimes they kill shit, sometimes they don't. Who cares? They're learning while doing it and we give the ships out for free.
On December 27 2011 18:09 Firebolt145 wrote: Oh sure it's not like we hit them on the same alts that we sell to them on.
Is combat easy enough to get into?
Do you mean is it easy enough to learn? Technically combat could just involve clicking on a target and pressing f1. But it takes a while to figure out what is going on when the fleet commander is giving orders. At the beginning you may just feel 'lost' during fleet fights, without a clue what is going on. That is normal. Eventually though you'll get a hang for it. For me I'd say it took about a month and a half before I could get my head around all the fleet fights. That's why we put you in a rifter for that month and a half - gives you time to figure out shit before you start flying bigger and more expensive ships. That's not to say you don't have an important role - we still will order you to do things for us. Just that the first few times you try to do it you probably will screw up.
Or do you mean is it easy to find fights? Well, this is one of the differences of EVE. It's not like WOW where you can just queue up for a battleground or arena and start PvPing within a couple minutes. In EVE it varies. We could roam one day, come across another huge fleet and have an amazing fight. The next day we could roam in the same area at the same time, find absolutely nothing and go home feeling rather blue-balled. Up to you whether this is a plus or minus point.
I've played EVE for almost 9 years now, although unfortunately not with The Hatchery. [We've actually fought a couple of your fleets from time to time ] I started where anyone does, in a rifter tackling enemy battleships and dying a lot. From there, the sky is the limit - I've flown every class of ship in the game, from interceptors to titans, and fought in every region in the game. Every time something else gets in the way, it's never long before I'm back to EVE for something important.
The one thing I would stress about EVE as it compares to other MMO's is how much it relies on player interaction. There isn't a story, or a main quest line. There is an empty world, and there are hundreds of thousands of players who live in that world and create / drive the game to where it is today. There isn't any other game on the market that can drive people to set their alarm clock for the middle of the night, simply because that's when the fight will be; or get together with 1500 of their alliance mates and invade an entire regions worth of space some Sunday afternoon.
I highly encourage anyone who is interested to try it out - the first couple of weeks are by no means the most interesting or fun, but if you can find a gem or two of exciting combat in those first weeks you'll be hooked forever.
On December 28 2011 22:49 Zhent wrote: I've played EVE for almost 9 years now, although unfortunately not with The Hatchery. [We've actually fought a couple of your fleets from time to time ] I started where anyone does, in a rifter tackling enemy battleships and dying a lot. From there, the sky is the limit - I've flown every class of ship in the game, from interceptors to titans, and fought in every region in the game. Every time something else gets in the way, it's never long before I'm back to EVE for something important.
The one thing I would stress about EVE as it compares to other MMO's is how much it relies on player interaction. There isn't a story, or a main quest line. There is an empty world, and there are hundreds of thousands of players who live in that world and create / drive the game to where it is today. There isn't any other game on the market that can drive people to set their alarm clock for the middle of the night, simply because that's when the fight will be; or get together with 1500 of their alliance mates and invade an entire regions worth of space some Sunday afternoon.
I highly encourage anyone who is interested to try it out - the first couple of weeks are by no means the most interesting or fun, but if you can find a gem or two of exciting combat in those first weeks you'll be hooked forever.
Wow a titan pilot, that's something. How long did it take you to train the necessary skills?
Hey, this sounds really cool, i was wondering if you could talk a little more about the in-game game-time economey. How realistic is it that you will be able to pay your subscription with in game money? I dont have alot of money to spend, so if i can't support my account in game, i probably won't be able to play. How much time per week do you think you would have to spend to make enough to not pay the monthly fees?
I really appreciate you guys helping the community out like this, team liquid is really such a great site.
At the start you will need about 45hours per month to pay for the subscription. Of course this gets less and less as you get more skillpoints and are able to do better missions/exploration. I need 2 hours per month to pay for one account (i have 10 currently though )
This post was made in response to a new guy asking questions in our topic and I thought it worth quoting.
On January 12 2012 13:52 Reborn8u wrote: I'd like to take a minute to clear a few things up for new people. A lot of people who start out in eve are in for a culture shock. This game is not only incredibly complex, but incredibly unforgiving.
The people who have risen to the top, did so by being tough, thick skinned, and cruel. This is EVE, not WOW, not Mario Party, not any other noob friendly, hold your hand game. If you want swimming lessons go play another game, because in EVE and in the Hatchery, we are going to throw you into the deep end of the pool. If you start whining and complaining, "save me, save me, this is unfair" a bunch of people are going piss on your face when you come up for air, and laugh as you drown.
In EVE you will be punished severely for your mistakes by the games mechanics. When you do moronic things while flying with people that could possibly get them killed, you will get an ear full. If your feelings are going to get hurt when 1. people call you an idiot, 2. blast you for not thinking more than 1 step ahead of what was happening, 3. they ask you if you're "completely fucking retarded" because you have zero situational awareness, you will not make in this game or in our corp.
Hatchery has some of the best pilots and financial masterminds in all of EVE. They are only willing to help you, if you put forth the effort to help yourself. If you are willing to fuck up, take an ear full, learn from it and keep flying you could do well. If you will take just 5 minutes to look something up BEFORE asking for the answer to be handed to you, you may do well. If you aren't willing to take time to READ the information that has been provided and easily available with google, people will not bother trying to help you. No one is going to hold your hand and spoon feed you. Some will be more patient than others, some will be very rude. Deal with it. Wipe your own ass, we don't provide diapers.
The weak, the timid, the non-resilient, and the stupid will perish. No one will even flinch in remorse. Little kids don't play this game, it's too hard and takes too much dedication. I've yet to meet anyone in this game who wasn't at least 17. The vast majority of people who play eve are mid 20's college students. This game takes brains, patience, fortitude and attitude at the right times for the right reasons.
Try to realize that because of how unforgiving eve is and because of how sharp the learning curve is, the vast majority of people just give up after just 1 or 2 weeks. So if you try EVE and get the impressions that everyone is a major dick. This post will hopefully provide some context (if you even bothered to read it)
However, if you do have thick skin, if you are mentally tough, if you do listen to critisism (even when they are dicks about it) and keep going, keep learning, keep improving, keep researching, and keep asking the right questions ( the right question is something you have already looked up and still don't get), you will find that the hatchery is fucking awesome.
You will fly in fleets outnumbered 4 to 1 and crush your opponents. You will have more isk than you can keep track of, and you will have a great time tasting the delicious tears of the weak. You will learn more about this game in a few months than most of it's players have learned in years. Most of all you will make some great friends, spend a lot of timing laughing till you cry, and stand with those who were forged in fire and emerged as steel.
I've been stalking this game for like 2years. Reading some stories about it, seen funny videos and moments even rage (+ Show Spoiler +
) Tested free trial but I was inside of a nice community in another game at that time so no time. Atm I play osu and sc2 only. Those 2 and drawing my only hobbies so I'm thinking atm - how much time does this game take? Like it's more of an mmorpg and doesn't function like osu and sc2 where you don't have to play at all but in MMORPG you usually have to keep some sort of pace. In *** you were able to stack infinite money from AH and only log in to raid with guild. How does time consuming process go in this game?
How about finding other people and communities? Should I have IRL group of friends or does it matter at all? Is this game still worth investing time or 1.is it dying and 2.for reasons?
This game takes up exactly as much time as you want it to. Obviously the more you put in the more fun you'll have, and the more money you'll make. Some of our guys only play a few hours a week. Kwark plays more EVE than everyone else in corp combined.
I definitely want to play this game. But with work during the day and classes at night I would only have a night or 2 a week to play. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................................
Hey all i have been playing eve online for probably 2-3 years.. lost track XD. Its an outstanding game.. probably the most unique MMO in existence. Btw im in Rote Kapelle.
Just curious if there are any SC2 pro's that are playing eve right now.. that would be interesting.. cuz you can call me a EVE pro so to speak.. Cool
this looks like an interesting game, and am i correct in seeing that your clans can capture territory? or no.. anyways i wish the graphics were a little nicer but still cool.
On February 17 2012 15:16 Eclipse. wrote: Hey all i have been playing eve online for probably 2-3 years.. lost track XD. Its an outstanding game.. probably the most unique MMO in existence. Btw im in Rote Kapelle.
Just curious if there are any SC2 pro's that are playing eve right now.. that would be interesting.. cuz you can call me a EVE pro so to speak.. Cool
I will use this secret knowledge in ways unimagined by humans before.
Also, I wanted to check out eve for some time now - how many hours a week should I play eve to make it a worthwhile experience ? I cannot even play sc2 as much as I would like to due to university ..
I have that strong urge to play EVE again, but the problem always was that I never got to the point where I could just make enough ISK for PLEX. Otherwise I'd play this game to this day. It's a beautiful and complex game.
On February 20 2012 01:43 Avius wrote: I have that strong urge to play EVE again, but the problem always was that I never got to the point where I could just make enough ISK for PLEX. Otherwise I'd play this game to this day. It's a beautiful and complex game.
I miss it.
I think you'd be surprised how fast you can make isk in this game, if you know what you're doing/have the right connections. 5 hrs a week is more than enough to plex an account, even when you're relatively new. I know this because I'm plexing 3 accounts right now, and I'm terrible at eve.
Because we are the best players in eve. Kwark recently had a trading empire which earned him (personally) more than most big alliances, for instance. We have the know-how to win eve. This includes how to make stupid amounts of money very quickly and very easily. Also occasional highsec warlording (never again).
hey is the first post for longtime lurker still active? i would like to join the spawningpool, do i just start talking in hatchery pub or do i need to pm someone here? and do you have any active wardeccs or do i need to get my stuff together before i join?
On February 21 2012 09:38 Averen wrote: hey is the first post for longtime lurker still active? i would like to join the spawningpool, do i just start talking in hatchery pub or do i need to pm someone here? and do you have any active wardeccs or do i need to get my stuff together before i join?
We live in low/null so wardecs aren't really a huge problem.
On February 21 2012 09:58 Averen wrote: but im not in lowsec atm, would that be a problem?
If you want to live with us then yes, because we wouldn't all move to where you are. If you want to stay there and do your own thing separately then no.
there was a point onn time that the Dead Pod Society OWNED Genesis region... before the patch of the vaga nerf and quantum rise....those were the days...
Shamelessly copy/pasting my last post on the 999th page post as it is relevant to this thread.
On March 06 2012 18:07 Mandini wrote: Alright, screw it, I waited something like 13 hours to snipe page 1000, and it seems like no one is actually going to make the last post on 999, and I don't want to triple post because I'm not bbq :p.
I started my time in EVE around page 570, my first post was on 573 where I trolled kwark (badly, but very fitting if i might add). I started as a humble rifter pilot that was devastated when I lost my set of +3s because we didn't really have the salvaging network we do now, and I am now a space rich LP tycoon who can fly a plethora of ships (even though I'm still bad at EVE).
As Def stated in his write up it has definitely been a journey, I thought I knew a lot when I reached the peak of my WoW career leading a top 500 guild of 10 close knit guys, smashing all the content and raping in pvp. I learned just how wrong I was when I started EVE. I have learned so much just by talking to all the amazing people we have in the hatchery and even in spawning pool. Just the economics knowledge alone I have gained through the whole W&G incident as well as the LP business in general is going to help me for the rest of my life. The team liquid members who actually survive to become veterans are some of the most intelligent people in the world, and I am proud to count myself among their numbers. The type of person that actually thrives in EVE is just astounding to me. I'm going on and on about this, but I can't actually say it enough. Playing EVE is an experience that I think everyone, well at least all TL members, should have to go through. Its very humbling, and you learn so much. So if you are reading this and havent yet joined up, give it a try, its a wonderful game, and being in the TL alliance just makes it that much better.
I know that I have learned from EVE, but I like to tell myself that I have taught people as well and helped them through their EVE journey, and I hope that what I tell myself is true. That was one of my goals when I volunteered to lead Spawning Pool, even though that turned out to be not what I envisioned :s. Regardless I do my best, and will continue to do so as long as I am a member of the TL alliance.
I will do a proper history blog at some point in the future (soonTM), but for now I am happy to end the triple digit page number era, and welcome someone else to come along and snipe that 1000th page first post. o7
Also, one Defmatrixultra's post
On March 04 2012 08:32 DefMatrixUltra wrote: So today, DefMatrix Ultra marks the end of his 1st year in Hatchery.
My activity in terms of playing EVE has been irregular. I'd say that about 4 months of those 12 months, I had basically no activity. Despite that, I've done a lot of shit - so much that it's even hard to remember it all. Seems like years of my life happened in this game.
--EVE
EVE is a strange experience. If you come into it alone, with only yourself and the game, you won't get it. It's a sandbox, and you run out of guidance very quickly. In fact, I'd say that most people that have played EVE don't even understand where the game is, what to actually do to get at the meat of the game.
EVE is not your traditional MMO experience. EVE chews up and spits out traditional MMO audiences like a meat grinder. You'll find no warm, sunny beach with palm trees here. No rolling meadows with rabbits or whatever the fuck running around. In EVE, people are out for your blood. Nowhere is safe. Someone will find you buried in your hiding place, pummel you nearly to death. The next day they'll log onto their trade alt and scam you out of every penny you own. Many many people have ragequit this game, some with years of playtime behind them.
--Hatchery
Hatchery is very much the best corp in EVE. Like EVE, it is a meat grinder. But unlike EVE, it has a will and direction and a reason. Many do not make it far in EVE, even with the help of Hatchery. If you can't make it past the gauntlet of trolling, if you can't shoulder unreasonable responsibility, if you can't own up to mistakes you couldn't possibly comprehend fully - then you are just one of the unfortunate many. But Hatchery pulls its members from the TL community. And this community is about as badass and battle-hardened as you can get. So man up and stick with it. The rewards are uncountable.
The Hatchery philosophy is all about being the best. Besides being the best pvp corp in game, Hatchery has experts in every field of the game. Any facet of industry, market, pve, pvp, game mechanics - someone in Hatchery is the undisputed expert on the subject. That's what happens when you take in TL membership and you hammer them with responsibility and knowledge that no Random Joe can sustain - once the flames have died down, a Hatchery member steps from the smouldering ashes.
When I first joined up, I was clueless and poor. I made most of my ISK off pvp since Hatchery collected and sold loot and distributed prize ISK to the top ten pilots. But there is this awesome guy named Pufftrees who seemingly printed ISK at will. He did stuff with contracts and was nice enough to loan me 1b (1,000,000,000.00 ISK) for my first "serious" month of contracts. I paid him back easily and was very successful with contracts. I eventually went on to obsessively dip my hands in all kinds of cashflow all throughout EVE. Thanks to individuals like Pufftrees, Motbob, and KwarK and thanks to the Hatchery philosophy in general, I am obscenely wealthy in game today. In 1 year, I've made more than dozens of random EVE players will make in their entire EVE career.
Similarly, while I'm not the best in the game at pvp, I am steadily climbing my way up there. Through intensive study and with Hatchery-instilled mechanics and philosophy, I will one day be among the best pvpers in the game's history. Make a note.
--DefMatrix Ultra
I wouldn't call my career illustrious or any other such word. I'm a Hatchery member, so excellence is par for the course. I've had a lot of fun in pvp. My first few months, I flew nothing but Rifters and loved the shit out of it. There's really nothing like zooming around at 5 kilometers a second only to land the real killing blow on your enemy - the tackle. When you're zipping from victim to victim with 50 combat drones painting a target on your head, you feel truly alive.
In a time where everyone was training Drake or Hurricane, I decided that I disliked BCs, and to this day I have Battlecruiser II trained. I trained to a ship that I thought was unimaginably cool - an Imperial Navy Slicer. Within a few months, I had a nearly maxed Slicer, and I still love the ship to death today. I've done a ton of solo pvp (more than most Hatchery members) in my trusty Slicer. I could post a bunch of killmails, but solo pvp is so much more than just mails. You learn a lot of stuff about the game when you're all alone with no intel, no safety net, and a bit of bloodlust.
In EVE, killmails are publicly available records of fights. On each individual mail is the fit of the person that died, all the people that attacked that person, and how much damage each attacker did (and other info like the loot dropped etc.).
If you look at a bunch of mails all together, you can link many of them to the same event. If one guy dies and was killed by 20 other people, then you know that the 1 guy and the 20 other people were both there. Many times, people are on each other's mails and you can start to work out who all was involved in the battle. Thankfully killboards do this automatically in the form of battle reports (disclaimer, sometimes the software gets it wrong).
These are some of the cool fleet battles I've been in. Keep in mind, not only is this not every larger battle I've been in, it's not even close to every battle that Hatchery has been in. My activity was very much on/off depending on my RL situation at the time. At one point, I basically stopped playing the game for 3 months - logging in only to update skill queues.
Keep in mind that these range from my very beginnings up to now. In some of these battles, I have over 20m skillpoints, and others I'm a complete, utter noobie.
This guy is a complete douchebag. He is in an incredibly expensive and (at the time) overpowered ship and challenged our friend Emdar (Marvlyn) to a 1v1. Marvlyn is in a cheap-ass T1 non-combat ship. This fucker is basically going around preying on noobs and getting cheap kills with no risk to himself or his expensive ship.
We set up a trap where they would 1v1 at a planet. This planet was very close to a gate to another system. In that system - on the other side of the gate - was everyone else was waiting patiently. ShoreTay was on the planet watching the duel happen in a cloaked ship, waiting to decloak and lock down the target.
Everything went well, and the guy got trapped and didn't even manage to kill the crappy non-combat ship. As a bonus, we podded him too ( http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9897952 ) back in a time when pods did not show implant losses.
This massive clusterfuck of a fight started with a friendly Thanatos missioning as bait. He was attacked and had 5 carriers dropped on him. We took the opportunity to batphone in as much help as possible. All in all, I believe this fight took about 2 hours. We first landed on the field in a few BCs just to hold point while reinforcements arrived.
This was a guy we jumped in Delve. He was ratting but not being careful enough. This one is notable to me as this guy died in under 4 minutes instead of the 20-40 I was used to for killing a carrier. Hatchery used to be just a bunch of guys in BCs and Rifters, but we are fielding more serious hardware with each passing day.
Some bros come and go. But Hatchery are bros for life. Every loss is a shared loss, and every victory a shared victory. When one of us makes a mistake, we're all pissed, and when we pull incredible shit off we know it was all of us.
SW:TOR was a let down for me in terms of end game content, so I'm currently in MMO deadspace. Debating Runescape which has been my go-to game when big MMO's fail me, its graphics and gameplay suck but the amount of stuff to do is huge (plus I have a really good character on it).
However I'm also debating EVE Online, which I have played before. I got to an active tank missile boat Tengu when I last left, few hundred million ISK left over. My only issue is, I have quit EVE online twice now (thats not huge, I quit WoW like 10 times over its 2005-2011 run) due to running out of stuff to do. I enjoy combat and haven't put time into industry related skills. Solo mission running is what bored me out of the game on both occasions, most people I played with were in US time zones (I'm EU) and I could rarely go to any group operations. I could solo level 4's but solo as I said is boring.
My ending question is: If I re-joined, would I be of any use to PvE group operations and would I be able to do much in EU times? I am willing to stay up later than some EU people probably are but not crazy. I also had 0 experience in PvP, I'd be willing to try depending on the costs of it. Your answers may sway my choice of MMO. Thanks.
We don't do any pve group operations at all. We have a lot of people from the EU tz and we do lots of pvp during those hours. We are happy to teach you to pvp from the basics (you will be in a rifter for at least some weeks when you start flying with us during which we will teach you everything). Said rifters are given to you for free so there is no cost involved.
Like I said, we don't do any group pve operations, but we know how to pve better than 95% of eve, if not more. We will teach you how to make isk efficiently.
We don't do any pve group operations at all. We have a lot of people from the EU tz and we do lots of pvp during those hours. We are happy to teach you to pvp from the basics (you will be in a rifter for at least some weeks when you start flying with us during which we will teach you everything). Said rifters are given to you for free so there is no cost involved.
Like I said, we don't do any group pve operations, but we know how to pve better than 95% of eve, if not more. We will teach you how to make isk efficiently.
No PvE? :/ I do enjoy PvP but historically in MMORPG's I've preferred PvE. But having said that I have no EVE PVP experience like I said. All my effort has gone into PvE, I loved my Tengu, could active tank indefinitely and deliver amazing missile punishment. Before that I spent an awful long time in a passive tank Drake.
We don't do any pve group operations at all. We have a lot of people from the EU tz and we do lots of pvp during those hours. We are happy to teach you to pvp from the basics (you will be in a rifter for at least some weeks when you start flying with us during which we will teach you everything). Said rifters are given to you for free so there is no cost involved.
Like I said, we don't do any group pve operations, but we know how to pve better than 95% of eve, if not more. We will teach you how to make isk efficiently.
No PvE? :/ I do enjoy PvP but historically in MMORPG's I've preferred PvE. But having said that I have no EVE PVP experience like I said. All my effort has gone into PvE, I loved my Tengu, could active tank indefinitely and deliver amazing missile punishment. Before that I spent an awful long time in a passive tank Drake.
Mate, after reading your posts (and I mean this in the nicest way possible), it is clear that you have a LOT to learn. :D
We don't do any pve group operations at all. We have a lot of people from the EU tz and we do lots of pvp during those hours. We are happy to teach you to pvp from the basics (you will be in a rifter for at least some weeks when you start flying with us during which we will teach you everything). Said rifters are given to you for free so there is no cost involved.
Like I said, we don't do any group pve operations, but we know how to pve better than 95% of eve, if not more. We will teach you how to make isk efficiently.
No PvE? :/ I do enjoy PvP but historically in MMORPG's I've preferred PvE. But having said that I have no EVE PVP experience like I said. All my effort has gone into PvE, I loved my Tengu, could active tank indefinitely and deliver amazing missile punishment. Before that I spent an awful long time in a passive tank Drake.
We PvE to fund our accounts and our PvP efforts. What this means is that we've learned to be very, very good at it so we can do the minimum required. Group PvE may fulfil your needs for roleplaying and pimping a tengu may give you a sense of satisfaction that no amount of empty sex with drunk girls can rival but for making isk, it's very suboptimal.
We don't do any pve group operations at all. We have a lot of people from the EU tz and we do lots of pvp during those hours. We are happy to teach you to pvp from the basics (you will be in a rifter for at least some weeks when you start flying with us during which we will teach you everything). Said rifters are given to you for free so there is no cost involved.
Like I said, we don't do any group pve operations, but we know how to pve better than 95% of eve, if not more. We will teach you how to make isk efficiently.
No PvE? :/ I do enjoy PvP but historically in MMORPG's I've preferred PvE. But having said that I have no EVE PVP experience like I said. All my effort has gone into PvE, I loved my Tengu, could active tank indefinitely and deliver amazing missile punishment. Before that I spent an awful long time in a passive tank Drake.
Mate, after reading your posts (and I mean this in the nicest way possible), it is clear that you have a LOT to learn. :D
I know ;P I realise I never hit the deep parts of this game, though I was never sure how to get there lol. It just felt like endless PvE mission running and quite lonely as well, despite being in a Corp.
We don't do any pve group operations at all. We have a lot of people from the EU tz and we do lots of pvp during those hours. We are happy to teach you to pvp from the basics (you will be in a rifter for at least some weeks when you start flying with us during which we will teach you everything). Said rifters are given to you for free so there is no cost involved.
Like I said, we don't do any group pve operations, but we know how to pve better than 95% of eve, if not more. We will teach you how to make isk efficiently.
No PvE? :/ I do enjoy PvP but historically in MMORPG's I've preferred PvE. But having said that I have no EVE PVP experience like I said. All my effort has gone into PvE, I loved my Tengu, could active tank indefinitely and deliver amazing missile punishment. Before that I spent an awful long time in a passive tank Drake.
We PvE to fund our accounts and our PvP efforts. What this means is that we've learned to be very, very good at it so we can do the minimum required. Group PvE may fulfil your needs for roleplaying and pimping a tengu may give you a sense of satisfaction that no amount of empty sex with drunk girls can rival but for making isk, it's very suboptimal.
My Tengu was fun, and its animation flew backwards when I last used it lol. Still debating whether I'd want to rejoin or not, do you guys just group PvP almost, if not, every day?
So I opened the map of all the starsystems on a whim, and thought I was looking at the Inner Sphere. Seriously. It couldn't look more like it if it tried. Link for reference
We don't do any pve group operations at all. We have a lot of people from the EU tz and we do lots of pvp during those hours. We are happy to teach you to pvp from the basics (you will be in a rifter for at least some weeks when you start flying with us during which we will teach you everything). Said rifters are given to you for free so there is no cost involved.
Like I said, we don't do any group pve operations, but we know how to pve better than 95% of eve, if not more. We will teach you how to make isk efficiently.
No PvE? :/ I do enjoy PvP but historically in MMORPG's I've preferred PvE. But having said that I have no EVE PVP experience like I said. All my effort has gone into PvE, I loved my Tengu, could active tank indefinitely and deliver amazing missile punishment. Before that I spent an awful long time in a passive tank Drake.
Mate, after reading your posts (and I mean this in the nicest way possible), it is clear that you have a LOT to learn. :D
I know ;P I realise I never hit the deep parts of this game, though I was never sure how to get there lol. It just felt like endless PvE mission running and quite lonely as well, despite being in a Corp.
We don't do any pve group operations at all. We have a lot of people from the EU tz and we do lots of pvp during those hours. We are happy to teach you to pvp from the basics (you will be in a rifter for at least some weeks when you start flying with us during which we will teach you everything). Said rifters are given to you for free so there is no cost involved.
Like I said, we don't do any group pve operations, but we know how to pve better than 95% of eve, if not more. We will teach you how to make isk efficiently.
No PvE? :/ I do enjoy PvP but historically in MMORPG's I've preferred PvE. But having said that I have no EVE PVP experience like I said. All my effort has gone into PvE, I loved my Tengu, could active tank indefinitely and deliver amazing missile punishment. Before that I spent an awful long time in a passive tank Drake.
We PvE to fund our accounts and our PvP efforts. What this means is that we've learned to be very, very good at it so we can do the minimum required. Group PvE may fulfil your needs for roleplaying and pimping a tengu may give you a sense of satisfaction that no amount of empty sex with drunk girls can rival but for making isk, it's very suboptimal.
My Tengu was fun, and its animation flew backwards when I last used it lol. Still debating whether I'd want to rejoin or not, do you guys just group PvP almost, if not, every day?
Hey I have an EVE account already because I played the 14 day trial a couple years ago, but I couldn't really get into it because I didn't know anyone else who was playing at the time. I recently came across this thread and have been considering giving EVE another try. Any way someone can hook me up with a 21 day trial?
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