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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
September 05 2018 13:05 GMT
#15341
On September 04 2018 13:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
Show nested quote +
For Zerg, a more recent map is Andromeda imo though some of the other ones mentioned are good. SK Terran is extremely difficult to play for a lower level player and it's a map where it's rough to play mech on or to mech switch to try and reduce the APM requirements. In short, I guess any maps that force SK Terran indirectly.


This makes me think of a game played on Andromeda. Sea vs Jaedong where Sea went sk terran the whole time. that game was awesome.

What are your favourite builds to use? Also, which ones do you love to watch?

I love seeing Bulldogging become re-popularized in PvT. In a recent unnamed game, a Protoss used up to six shuttles against Terran in the timing between early and mid game and it was awesome.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 06 2018 04:43 GMT
#15342
On September 04 2018 13:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
Show nested quote +
For Zerg, a more recent map is Andromeda imo though some of the other ones mentioned are good. SK Terran is extremely difficult to play for a lower level player and it's a map where it's rough to play mech on or to mech switch to try and reduce the APM requirements. In short, I guess any maps that force SK Terran indirectly.


This makes me think of a game played on Andromeda. Sea vs Jaedong where Sea went sk terran the whole time. that game was awesome.

What are your favourite builds to use? Also, which ones do you love to watch?

Just to make you rewatch such an awesome game, here's the link :D

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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10158 Posts
September 06 2018 05:37 GMT
#15343
On September 05 2018 22:05 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2018 13:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
For Zerg, a more recent map is Andromeda imo though some of the other ones mentioned are good. SK Terran is extremely difficult to play for a lower level player and it's a map where it's rough to play mech on or to mech switch to try and reduce the APM requirements. In short, I guess any maps that force SK Terran indirectly.


This makes me think of a game played on Andromeda. Sea vs Jaedong where Sea went sk terran the whole time. that game was awesome.

What are your favourite builds to use? Also, which ones do you love to watch?

I love seeing Bulldogging become re-popularized in PvT. In a recent unnamed game, a Protoss used up to six shuttles against Terran in the timing between early and mid game and it was awesome.

Isn't bulldog specifically a 2 (or 3) gate Shuttle timing? That's how the term was originally used back when it was popular, to my knowledge. Liquipedia seems to support this.

(Wiki)Bulldog (vs. Terran)

I was very confused when Tastosis called some 2 base Shuttle play "Bulldogging" when that term has never applied to that. 6 Shuttles is certainly far from the conventional definition.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
September 06 2018 15:43 GMT
#15344
On September 06 2018 14:37 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2018 22:05 BisuDagger wrote:
On September 04 2018 13:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
For Zerg, a more recent map is Andromeda imo though some of the other ones mentioned are good. SK Terran is extremely difficult to play for a lower level player and it's a map where it's rough to play mech on or to mech switch to try and reduce the APM requirements. In short, I guess any maps that force SK Terran indirectly.


This makes me think of a game played on Andromeda. Sea vs Jaedong where Sea went sk terran the whole time. that game was awesome.

What are your favourite builds to use? Also, which ones do you love to watch?

I love seeing Bulldogging become re-popularized in PvT. In a recent unnamed game, a Protoss used up to six shuttles against Terran in the timing between early and mid game and it was awesome.

Isn't bulldog specifically a 2 (or 3) gate Shuttle timing? That's how the term was originally used back when it was popular, to my knowledge. Liquipedia seems to support this.

(Wiki)Bulldog (vs. Terran)

I was very confused when Tastosis called some 2 base Shuttle play "Bulldogging" when that term has never applied to that. 6 Shuttles is certainly far from the conventional definition.

I see it as variations of what was originally bulldogging. The same way FFE for Bisu has multiple variations.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10168 Posts
September 06 2018 19:01 GMT
#15345
On September 04 2018 13:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
Show nested quote +
For Zerg, a more recent map is Andromeda imo though some of the other ones mentioned are good. SK Terran is extremely difficult to play for a lower level player and it's a map where it's rough to play mech on or to mech switch to try and reduce the APM requirements. In short, I guess any maps that force SK Terran indirectly.


This makes me think of a game played on Andromeda. Sea vs Jaedong where Sea went sk terran the whole time. that game was awesome.

What are your favourite builds to use? Also, which ones do you love to watch?

I've only really played Terran and Protoss so here's my list:
TvZ: 14CC -> +1 armor goliath timing. Always love this since goliaths just met muta/ling.

TvP: 4 fact aggression with 3rd base follow up. An aggressive but pretty middle of the road build that if micro-d right can crush greedier builds and is still safe to aggressive builds from Protoss.

PvP: proxy gate 2 dt rush. One gateway in main, one gateway proxied on the map, hide the DT tech at your proxied gateway, make 2 dts immediately. If he has obs, one hides near his base, the other defends so if he tries to push with his obs, you can run your other DT in. if he went DTs, you'll probably win because your DT is closer to his base and you can block your ramp with DTs while you make forge/cannons.

PvT: 28 nex to 2 base arbiter. Nothing crazy.

PvZ: 2 stargate opener. The joy of killing every overlord in sight is always my favorite part of PvZ. Too bad I have dohsair control and end up losing all of them to scourge.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
September 06 2018 19:09 GMT
#15346
On September 07 2018 04:01 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2018 13:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
For Zerg, a more recent map is Andromeda imo though some of the other ones mentioned are good. SK Terran is extremely difficult to play for a lower level player and it's a map where it's rough to play mech on or to mech switch to try and reduce the APM requirements. In short, I guess any maps that force SK Terran indirectly.


This makes me think of a game played on Andromeda. Sea vs Jaedong where Sea went sk terran the whole time. that game was awesome.

What are your favourite builds to use? Also, which ones do you love to watch?

I've only really played Terran and Protoss so here's my list:
TvZ: 14CC -> +1 armor goliath timing. Always love this since goliaths just met muta/ling.

TvP: 4 fact aggression with 3rd base follow up. An aggressive but pretty middle of the road build that if micro-d right can crush greedier builds and is still safe to aggressive builds from Protoss.

PvP: proxy gate 2 dt rush. One gateway in main, one gateway proxied on the map, hide the DT tech at your proxied gateway, make 2 dts immediately. If he has obs, one hides near his base, the other defends so if he tries to push with his obs, you can run your other DT in. if he went DTs, you'll probably win because your DT is closer to his base and you can block your ramp with DTs while you make forge/cannons.

PvT: 28 nex to 2 base arbiter. Nothing crazy.

PvZ: 2 stargate opener. The joy of killing every overlord in sight is always my favorite part of PvZ. Too bad I have dohsair control and end up losing all of them to scourge.

No TvT build?
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10168 Posts
September 09 2018 06:03 GMT
#15347
On September 07 2018 04:09 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2018 04:01 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 04 2018 13:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
For Zerg, a more recent map is Andromeda imo though some of the other ones mentioned are good. SK Terran is extremely difficult to play for a lower level player and it's a map where it's rough to play mech on or to mech switch to try and reduce the APM requirements. In short, I guess any maps that force SK Terran indirectly.


This makes me think of a game played on Andromeda. Sea vs Jaedong where Sea went sk terran the whole time. that game was awesome.

What are your favourite builds to use? Also, which ones do you love to watch?

I've only really played Terran and Protoss so here's my list:
TvZ: 14CC -> +1 armor goliath timing. Always love this since goliaths just met muta/ling.

TvP: 4 fact aggression with 3rd base follow up. An aggressive but pretty middle of the road build that if micro-d right can crush greedier builds and is still safe to aggressive builds from Protoss.

PvP: proxy gate 2 dt rush. One gateway in main, one gateway proxied on the map, hide the DT tech at your proxied gateway, make 2 dts immediately. If he has obs, one hides near his base, the other defends so if he tries to push with his obs, you can run your other DT in. if he went DTs, you'll probably win because your DT is closer to his base and you can block your ramp with DTs while you make forge/cannons.

PvT: 28 nex to 2 base arbiter. Nothing crazy.

PvZ: 2 stargate opener. The joy of killing every overlord in sight is always my favorite part of PvZ. Too bad I have dohsair control and end up losing all of them to scourge.

No TvT build?

i hate TvT with a passion and rarely ever play the matchup unless I queue as terran on ladder.

I guess it would be the 2 fact vulture drop build that FlaSh did to Last on andromeda. Very fun, super strong to catch someone off guard.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
September 12 2018 14:27 GMT
#15348
On September 04 2018 13:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
Show nested quote +
For Zerg, a more recent map is Andromeda imo though some of the other ones mentioned are good. SK Terran is extremely difficult to play for a lower level player and it's a map where it's rough to play mech on or to mech switch to try and reduce the APM requirements. In short, I guess any maps that force SK Terran indirectly.


This makes me think of a game played on Andromeda. Sea vs Jaedong where Sea went sk terran the whole time. that game was awesome.

What are your favourite builds to use? Also, which ones do you love to watch?


When I used to play, I was around a C+ Protoss who occasionally would take games off of B ranked players. My off races were worse, but generally around C- rank or so.

PvP: 3 gate goon obs or 2 gate reaver. I generally have quite good Reaver micro so I tended to go Reaver.
PvT: If it was a map without a ramp such as HBR or Medusa, I would do 10/15 goon rush, but I would place the two forward gates in my nat choke. It was very, very effective (I remember having like...a 9-1 record against Pokebunny at the time, including one game in which I gave him vision). Otherwise, Reavers into Carriers. Like a much, much, much, worse Snow. I hate using Arbiters.
PvZ: I did this weird 2/1 upgrade timed attack with ranged goons that skipped HTs and storm. It was very effective on the ladder. Instead of going for a third base, it was literally that attack or bust, since I would spend the gas on additional Dragoons and upgrades instead of HTs/storm. I'd move out at around 115 supply or so with 2/1 range goons with some Zealots and went straight for the Zerg nat/main. Have a bunch of illustrative replays somewhere on my old computer against C+ ish Zergs. Otherwise, I played standard FE at the time that rushed for 4 templar with storm or so (depending on Zerg build, ofc).

ZvP: There's a really disgusting 3 hat hydralisk cheese that cuts eco at 24 drones and hits with speed/range hydras before legs. The third hat is placed at a forward expansion to cut travel distance. I would almost exclusively use this build.
ZvT: 4 pool because I'm bad.
ZvZ: I'd always just try and swindle larva production with 12 hat. I have horrid muta micro so I honestly hate this match up and try to win on Zerglings.

TvP: Nada's old timing push that was pretty much prescribed until over 100 supply. I actually really enjoy this matchup.
TvT: altqq
TvZ: I like going mech. I have horrid marine control, so when mech became popular, it was great.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10168 Posts
September 15 2018 07:39 GMT
#15349
On September 12 2018 23:27 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2018 13:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
For Zerg, a more recent map is Andromeda imo though some of the other ones mentioned are good. SK Terran is extremely difficult to play for a lower level player and it's a map where it's rough to play mech on or to mech switch to try and reduce the APM requirements. In short, I guess any maps that force SK Terran indirectly.


This makes me think of a game played on Andromeda. Sea vs Jaedong where Sea went sk terran the whole time. that game was awesome.

What are your favourite builds to use? Also, which ones do you love to watch?

TvT: altqq

Yep, pretty much.
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 12:23:06
September 15 2018 12:22 GMT
#15350
Do any of you get the urge to sneeze when you face the sun or when a heat source hits your face/nose area? I've got this several times a day since I was really young.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19059 Posts
September 15 2018 15:56 GMT
#15351
yep, it's called the Photic Sneeze Reflex. I very predictably sneeze twice when going from dark to sunlight (eg leaving a movie theater)
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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4936 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 16:45:29
September 15 2018 16:45 GMT
#15352
same, almost always twice for me as well
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 15 2018 17:17 GMT
#15353
Yes, but for me it happens unpredictably.
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-16 22:06:33
September 16 2018 22:04 GMT
#15354
On September 16 2018 02:17 The_Templar wrote:
Yes, but for me it happens unpredictably.


I have exactly the same.



E: just FYI, that was not a reply to the previous question, just to show that I share Templar's pain of the randomly sneezing disease.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 17 2018 01:28 GMT
#15355
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10168 Posts
September 18 2018 21:12 GMT
#15356
On September 15 2018 21:22 NoS-Craig wrote:
Do any of you get the urge to sneeze when you face the sun or when a heat source hits your face/nose area? I've got this several times a day since I was really young.

Still have it today. You can probably even feel those areas tingle when you step out from the dark.

17-35% of people have this condition. Not harmful luckily, just annoying.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-22 13:31:21
September 22 2018 13:30 GMT
#15357
On September 17 2018 10:28 JimmiC wrote:
What are the best Bot names you have banned? I've been noticing some of them are pretty good handles.


I just banned a "SusanHunt," who sounds like a slightly clueless but ultimately good natured old lady who baked peanut butter cookies for a school bake sale even though the instructions explicitly told people not to because little Emily is deathly allergic to peanuts and now she's not allowed to sell them and she's mildly confused and mostly just sad because she really baked them with love and they're her grandson's favorite. Susan turned out to be hot fucking garbage.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
September 25 2018 01:35 GMT
#15358
What is the weirdest pet you have owned?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9655 Posts
September 25 2018 08:51 GMT
#15359
If you could add one 'niche' subforum to tlnet what would it be?
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
September 25 2018 12:18 GMT
#15360
On September 25 2018 17:51 Jockmcplop wrote:
If you could add one 'niche' subforum to tlnet what would it be?

A sub-forum for just anime/manga/manhwa. Anime/manga/manhwa is way too large and vast to be stuck in Media & Entertainment. It really needs it's own sub-forum. Imagine how many awesome discussions we could have if we had a whole sub-forum dedicated to just anime/manga/manhwa.
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