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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11367 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 01:29:49
September 02 2011 01:27 GMT
#121
On September 02 2011 02:09 stenole wrote:
Make posts that you yourself would haved enjoyed reading about. And if you are bold enough to make a new thread, make sure you babysit and nurture it. Update the OP if needed.


On September 02 2011 04:23 RoosterSamurai wrote:
4) Don't just start a thread because you're bored. Use the search function, and if it doesn't already exist, and you feel that it would contribute to the site either in helpfulness, or entertainment, then proceed in creating a detailed, and easily understandable thread.
5) Please don't just copy/paste links to news articles, and do nothing more than say "Thoughts?"


This is one of the big hang-ups for a newbie to TL I feel. They should be able to pick it up if they lurk, but warnings and rules are going up all over the place. However, one thing that may not be entirely obvious to a newbie is that creating a new thread on TL is a very big deal. Perhaps a bigger deal then the 10 Commandments would suggest.

It's kinda here:
4. THOU SHALL CONTRIBUTE TO THE SITE

Contribute to the site. Everyone should pitch in. Some people contribute by being helpful when someone posts a question. Some people contribute by writing interesting posts that stimulate discussion or by uploading relevant and useful facts and information. Some people contribute by posting news from the gaming world. Others contribute by providing resources allowing us all to enjoy this game. Still others contribute by simply making everyone laugh. Contribution can take many forms and there's no single prescribed way to go about it. But, like good micro, we know it when we see it. Many contributors will have stars or special icons by their name. It's not a license to do anything they want, but good contributors will always get favorable treatment.

For you this means, when you create a new thread, make sure to include content worth discussing in it. A link or youtube video is not enough. An opening post should set the tone for discussion by being thoughtful and well constructed. We will not hesitate to close threads that don't have enough OP content.


But it's kind of buried in the thou shalt contribute. I've had fully formed thread starters that I've permanently set aside because I'm afraid it kinda overlaps with another thread/topic and I don't want to make a redundant thread. Or else, I'm afraid there's not sufficient content and other times I'll sit on a thread idea for a month or so or use it up on a post when someone else creates the topic. I'm probably a little too cautious, but even if one had a healthier sense of caution, I don't think it may be the most intuitive thing the world to the new poster.

You come from all sorts of other forums where either the community is small, so anything to talk about is welcomed no matter how lame the op is. Or else forums so large, but with little quality control where thousands of threads are started and are answered by 1-2 posters to a pretty redundant post.

In contrast, TL places high value on solid op's with lots of information/ well-written, etc.
Before you create a new thread, make sure to use the search function to make sure there isn't already a thread about the topic.
This is only covers part of the problem with OP's. Low quality threads even though there is no other thread on the topic is just as much frowned upon. It certain sections *cough* SC2 Strategy *cough* this is heavily emphasized, but I wonder if it should be emphasized even more, like its own section on TL's 10 Commandments.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 02 2011 01:40 GMT
#122
I think the best advice for a new user would be "Read the ten commandments, and open your blog."

Blogs still can't be shit, but they can be a safer place for some things. I know I've used mine a lot for limited interest stuff that might even merit a real thread, but most people won't want cluttering the page.
Absolutionn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
September 02 2011 01:48 GMT
#123
For the love of god please read the forum rules!! This forum is very different from other forums and if you are used to something else you will be suprised what is/is not allowed on TL.
Jinro | Idra | Qxc | Select
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
September 02 2011 01:56 GMT
#124
I may be repeating some things that have been said but the following rules have helped me avoid being too douchebaggy
  • Read the Automated ban List as if it were your religious text.
  • Prepare to delete more text than you post
  • If you wouldn't say it to your mother, don't say it here
  • Perhaps most importantly, try and make newbies welcome

Simple really. Love this thread btw (sticky?).
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Keifru
Profile Joined November 2010
United States179 Posts
September 02 2011 03:39 GMT
#125
+ Show Spoiler [On 4chan Bashing] +
On September 02 2011 02:47 Arisen wrote:
This isn't 4chan, don't post you're memes as a response to a thread


On September 02 2011 04:23 RoosterSamurai wrote:
1) This is not 4chan

This does nothing. Anyone coming from 4chan knows this isn't 4chan; saying it isn't 4chan won't change them. They'll do what they do because its what they want to do; they get warned/banned as a result and life rolls on.
Contrary to popular opinion, being a channer doesn't actually reduce intelligence.

On September 02 2011 03:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
-This isn't 4chan. Posting stuff like "umad", "+1", "lol", or even just "I agree" isn't contributory. If you don't have anything to add to the discussion, then you don't have to post, just be content to read what others are saying. Two word replies just spam up any actual discussion and makes it harder to read.

-Play TL Mafia. It's probably the best thing you could do on this site. :p

+1 is a reddit 'thing'...

Most people from 4chan are probably on EpicMafia, as it crops up now and again. Also, bceause TL's forum-style doesn't lend itself well to forum-style mafia games. (and is pretty much why I stopped among other rasins 9_9)

On September 02 2011 06:03 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 23:41 Emporio wrote:
Don't post for about two weeks.


QFT. Lurking is an art-form that is sorely missing now-a-day.

Lurking is inherently anti-town, selfish, and should be policy-lynchabble material.

On a less Mafia-like note, its not so much Lurking but reading around and doing a little research. Actually bouncing around will also help tune posts as well, depending on the person.

~~~

Be confident in your posting. It goes miles.
Don't...bloody...use...a lot...of...ELLIPSIS...EVER
Think, then post. Think THEN post.
Conflict is the gadfly of thought. It stirs us to observation and memory. It instigates us to invention. It shocks us out of sheeplike passivity, and sets us at noting and contriving. - John Dewey
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
September 02 2011 03:51 GMT
#126
Don't listen to Plexa. The nydus network doesn't exist.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
September 02 2011 03:56 GMT
#127
Every time you start to reply to a thread, stop and think about it. You will probably end up deleting at least half the replies you write and moving on.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
September 02 2011 04:28 GMT
#128
never post reactively.... you will get warned and/or banned. ;-)
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
September 02 2011 04:49 GMT
#129
On September 02 2011 00:45 Chill wrote:
Try to be positive

Failing that, at least be neutral.

On September 02 2011 06:02 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 05:57 PenguinWithNuke wrote:
Be kind. Don't flame people. Let moderators deal with trolls/idiots/flamers/etc. They're really good at doing that.


Another good point: Don't be a backseat mod. It makes you look like stupid, telling a mod what do to basically. Stuff like "ooh he should be banned" or "why isn't he banned??" is ill-advised, especially when coming from new users.

The worst part is that these posts take up a lot of space and derail threads.

Someone posts a thread, 10 people say "this should be closed", and it's doomed from the beginning. =/
Administrator
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 05:50:55
September 02 2011 05:43 GMT
#130
Don't mess with R1CH
If you're good he gives you gifts. Like Santa. Only a wizard.
Nydus Network
+ Show Spoiler +
If you ever find yourself about to mess with R1CH and you aren't an admin just remove /NydusNetwork from that link. You'll see why it's a bad idea. nsfw
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
September 02 2011 05:48 GMT
#131
Deleted...
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
September 02 2011 06:00 GMT
#132
On September 01 2011 23:41 Emporio wrote:
Don't post for about two weeks.


2 months before posting in the BW section imo.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 06:17:59
September 02 2011 06:06 GMT
#133
On September 02 2011 15:00 shucklesors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 23:41 Emporio wrote:
Don't post for about two weeks.


2 months before posting in the BW section imo.


Questions are always good as long as they are good ones and you have searched before. Don't hesitate to ask for help, if you really need it.

Same goes with SC2 or any other game.


to add: these "minimum requirements" when to post are ridiculous. Just use your fucking brains and you can start posting pretty much immediately. It's not really that hard to read the rules and then think a little before you click the "post" button.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
September 02 2011 06:25 GMT
#134
Just be happy and don't flame and you'll be perfectly fine yo. Loving small furry animals is a bonus.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 02 2011 06:31 GMT
#135
Don't get on nyovne's bad side!!!

*shudder*
Sfumato
Profile Joined September 2011
Italy23 Posts
September 02 2011 06:33 GMT
#136
On September 02 2011 05:03 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 05:01 Milkis wrote:
??????


Perfect example of how NOT to post. Shame on you, Kelly.

Wait what? I thought this is clear already, and now I'm totally confused again.
Isn't Milkis of MLG different from the Singaporean kellymilkies???
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 02 2011 06:34 GMT
#137
Do not, under any circumstance, ask about your icon
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 02 2011 06:35 GMT
#138
On September 02 2011 15:33 Sfumato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 05:03 Serejai wrote:
On September 02 2011 05:01 Milkis wrote:
??????


Perfect example of how NOT to post. Shame on you, Kelly.

Wait what? I thought this is clear already, and now I'm totally confused again.
Isn't Milkis of MLG different from the Singaporean kellymilkies???


Yes they're different. We sometimes still call Milkis by KellyMilkies to annoy him.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19144 Posts
September 02 2011 06:42 GMT
#139
On September 02 2011 15:35 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 15:33 Sfumato wrote:
On September 02 2011 05:03 Serejai wrote:
On September 02 2011 05:01 Milkis wrote:
??????


Perfect example of how NOT to post. Shame on you, Kelly.

Wait what? I thought this is clear already, and now I'm totally confused again.
Isn't Milkis of MLG different from the Singaporean kellymilkies???


YesNo they're not different. We sometimes always still call Milkis by KellyMilkies to annoy himremind her we love her.

Always take time to correct other people's posts!
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
September 02 2011 06:42 GMT
#140
On September 02 2011 15:34 Chairman Ray wrote:
Do not, under any circumstance, ask about your icon


So very very true...

I'm still cleaning up that shit
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
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