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That's great. Too bad I for one don't care all that much for what Mr. Garfield has to say.
The criteria he outlined should be a no brainer to anyone who has managed or recruited players before. Show matches should definitely be taken with a grain of salt. With that said, if he truly used this criteria to rate his players then a lot of them would score relatively low points as well. Guys like Machine, Strifeco, axslav have been around for a long time during the BW days, but never really amounted to anything other than playing for their nations. Their results mostly come from clan wars and nation wars.
With that said, Destiny has made some strides, but he still has a long way to go and yes winning a tournament with good prize money will definitely put the spotlight on you (come on now). There's nothing really new here. Destiny has a few perks that could rub people the wrong way, but he still has a big fan base. I would rate him no higher or lower than a few members on the EG team atm to be honest.
I can see why many companies would pass on him due to his image and personality. Furthermore, I don't really see him as a team player. This is very detrimental to any pro team.
Left out a few things when it comes to recruitment as well:
- Coach ability and growth. This ties into being a team player.
- Motivation and persistence.
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so watching a game that's all about killing units is ok, but sayin fuck is not ok?
seems pretty weird
but yeah i guess thats america =)
<3
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I know a big fanbase and popularity all around can bring revenue in some way to a team, but picking up a player that doesn't show consistent results (in tourneys) tarnishes the reputation a lot. Most teams want their name to be associate with the best of the best and picking up a player solely on his/her fanbase is not the way to do it.
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No. Saying words that have no meaning to you is in fact meaningless and low-brow comedy (if you can even call it that) at it's finest. It's as if you have Tourette's Syndrome while having no tolerance towards others and it embraces silly stereotypes. When people get mad, they say all sorts of stuff they don't necessarily mean. Hence T.S. They cannot really hold it back. -.-
This has been addressed many times including from S.B. himself. He does it for himself and whomever cares to watch him, which is fine.
I can understand why some companies would stray away from him however. I'm sure he'll have no problems finding sponsorship, even if it's something similar to what Grubby has going for him (in the form of personal sponsorship).
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Imo he's maybe good enough for a team like Sixjax, but he's not good enough for a major team like dignitas or EG. And when all your practice comes from laddering, and all you do is making infestors, you probably won't get far. Maybe he has the potential though.
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well not all of EG's players r better than destiny imo
u sound like EG would be winning everything
but they get dominated by the koreans like everyone else so i see no reason why he couldnt join EG
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If anything, I think it should be
TwitchtvDestiny
Given the amount of viewers he brings in for Twitch/Justin, they should approach him and workout some sponsorship with them so they can take a fraction of all the ad revenue he generates between tournaments and help him with travel expenses.
I'm sure the cost of helping 1 person travel is well within the budget of JustinTV
1) He won't really have any clanmates, he is still good friends with a lot of ROOT it seems, and i regularly see Complexity members playing alongside him. I'm sure he can get practice partners for specific matchups before tournaments if he wants/needs to.
2) He has said he doesn't like to lie for products in a recent interview, and gave his keyboard as an example vs. IdrA, rest of EG and their constant praising of Kingston HyperX memory allows them to play SC2. But he can, and I surely can guess that he can attribute his monthly income to Justin.tv.
3) Win-win for JustinTv/Destiny
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I really don't care about him being bm on stream, it goes with his enthousiasm of winning the game.
As a long time gamer, i know that i've been yelling shit about my opponents almost each time i won a hard game. Playing wow arenas, when you managed to kill the healer, all your team would start bitching about the dead healer because you've been spending your last 20 minutes trying to kill him, that's part of the winning process imo 
But what is less nice is bming the other player, as long as you only talk to yourself out loud it's np!
More on the topic, destiny could be a great player, waiting for his results, but idc about his bm as long as it doesn't affect the other player
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I disagree with EG's original assessment. Destiny is popular because of his personality; criteria 3&4 are connected in that regard. That is moot however, because Destiny has stated he does not want to be on a team.
I feel bad for incontrol after losing to a player he said was one fifth of Huk's skill.
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well if u consider incontrol a good player then u dont understand the game anyway imo
he does a lot for the community but he's far away from being a top player
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I honestly think Destiny is good enough to do decently on any team. Outside of HuK/IdrA, Destiny is easily as good as every other EG member. Literally any foreigner team could legitimately throw him on their team. Even though Destiny hasn't posted any major tournament wins or placements, such as MLG I don't think that necessarily matters.
How many of the EG players would be placing high at MLG if they didn't get their top placements before Koreans started showing up? iNcontroL has gotten crushed every tourney since Dallas (no Korean players). If he hadn't gotten top 4 before the best players in the world started showing up then I doubt he would have any impressive results to speak of either. Perhaps if Destiny was as good back then as he is now then he could have also gotten a free ride to the pool play for the rest of the MLG season.
Anyways, I think the bigger issue for Destiny is the way he carries himself. He doesn't want to censor himself and for better or worse that makes it difficult for a team to want to pick him up. He's more of a liability than an asset from that perspective. I wish him all the luck in the world and hope that he does well in tournaments going forward so some of the haters shut up but at the same time I don't think that winning an MLG or two would magically make teams want to pick him up unless he can change his perspective on how he handles himself in the public eye when he's representing an entity larger than himself.
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On August 23 2011 00:32 Hollow27 wrote:
I disagree with EG's original assessment. Destiny is popular because of his personality; criteria 3&4 are connected in that regard. That is moot however, because Destiny has stated he does not want to be on a team.
I feel bad for incontrol after losing to a player he said was one fifth of Huk's skill.
He's just going to say "lol infestor op" like he has been saying.
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On August 23 2011 00:40 Cudaflu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 00:32 Hollow27 wrote:
I disagree with EG's original assessment. Destiny is popular because of his personality; criteria 3&4 are connected in that regard. That is moot however, because Destiny has stated he does not want to be on a team.
I feel bad for incontrol after losing to a player he said was one fifth of Huk's skill. He's just going to say "lol infestor op" like he has been saying.
but when protoss is imba he tells idra to shut up :DDD
back to the topic. ye i do feel alex under valued destiny, especially since this is the team with idra on it :D i dont think calling someone a nigger is any worse than calling someone a waste of life, but there you go.
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someone tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't artosis the recruiter for sixjax?
If so, I can't quite see Artosis recruiting Destiny.
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On August 23 2011 00:25 rawrss wrote:
If anything, I think it should be
TwitchtvDestiny
Given the amount of viewers he brings in for Twitch/Justin, they should approach him and workout some sponsorship with them so they can take a fraction of all the ad revenue he generates between tournaments and help him with travel expenses.
I'm sure the cost of helping 1 person travel is well within the budget of JustinTV
1) He won't really have any clanmates, he is still good friends with a lot of ROOT it seems, and i regularly see Complexity members playing alongside him. I'm sure he can get practice partners for specific matchups before tournaments if he wants/needs to.
2) He has said he doesn't like to lie for products in a recent interview, and gave his keyboard as an example vs. IdrA, rest of EG and their constant praising of Kingston HyperX memory allows them to play SC2. But he can, and I surely can guess that he can attribute his monthly income to Justin.tv.
3) Win-win for JustinTv/Destiny
They already take a fraction of his ad revenue, its how justin.tv/twitch.tv makes money. Not to mention he already gets payed a fairly decent wage from them.
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On August 23 2011 00:15 drlame wrote:
I know a big fanbase and popularity all around can bring revenue in some way to a team, but picking up a player that doesn't show consistent results (in tourneys) tarnishes the reputation a lot. Most teams want their name to be associate with the best of the best and picking up a player solely on his/her fanbase is not the way to do it.
Then I guess, EG should get rid of most of their team and Liquid could say thank you to Tyler and Haypro...
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On August 23 2011 00:51 CampinSam wrote:
someone tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't artosis the recruiter for sixjax?
If so, I can't quite see Artosis recruiting Destiny.
Yes that is Artosis' team. I believe it was on State of the Game though that he already stated he's not interested in picking up Destiny.
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On August 23 2011 00:53 Achaia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 00:51 CampinSam wrote:
someone tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't artosis the recruiter for sixjax?
If so, I can't quite see Artosis recruiting Destiny. Yes that is Artosis' team. I believe it was on State of the Game though that he already stated he's not interested in picking up Destiny.
Yes, in fact, I think Artosis kind of laughed when someone asked about Destiny and sixjax. Shame I cant remember which show/interview this was.
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On August 23 2011 01:05 Psychobabas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 00:53 Achaia wrote:On August 23 2011 00:51 CampinSam wrote:
someone tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't artosis the recruiter for sixjax?
If so, I can't quite see Artosis recruiting Destiny. Yes that is Artosis' team. I believe it was on State of the Game though that he already stated he's not interested in picking up Destiny. Yes, in fact, I think Artosis kind of laughed when someone asked about Destiny and sixjax. Shame I cant remember which show/interview this was.
I remember that as well, it was in a SoTG episode, 1 or 2 before MLG Anaheim. Indeed, Artosis laughed and said something like "Hum...no thanks !!".
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On August 23 2011 01:05 Psychobabas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 00:53 Achaia wrote:On August 23 2011 00:51 CampinSam wrote:
someone tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't artosis the recruiter for sixjax?
If so, I can't quite see Artosis recruiting Destiny. Yes that is Artosis' team. I believe it was on State of the Game though that he already stated he's not interested in picking up Destiny. Yes, in fact, I think Artosis kind of laughed when someone asked about Destiny and sixjax. Shame I cant remember which show/interview this was.
It was on a SoTG, he didn't laugh at all (you people make shit up a lot), just said that he wouldn't be interested in having him on SixJax
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