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Ill try to make it, Im about an hour away. Will be fun to see those guys. Just not sure If I can get off work yet, so count me in as a maybe
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Not likely but, anyone in Surprise heading up there?
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I'm coming from scottsdale, if anybody needs a ride. I'd do it for e-sports.
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On August 20 2011 19:25 nastyyy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2011 10:03 StarStruck wrote:
Too hot to visit my summer home in Scottsdale man. Some other time. ...So do you ever visit your summer home in Scottsdale?
Winter home is probably a more appropriate term. It probably feels like 150 F there right now.
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if anyone in Phoenix or glendale/peoria needs a ride let me know I can hook it up!
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His first response would be "why it's so fucking hot?"
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Phoenix is supposed to be 105-110 degrees F in the next couple of days, Seoul is in the 80s
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What flight # is he? A lot of my friends work at the airport and they work at the terminal and gates PuMa's arriving at.
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On August 21 2011 12:57 3xiLe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 12:54 Xplitcit wrote:
His first response would be "why it's so fucking hot?" Koreas pretty hot itself, aint it? I think it's probably even more. Excuse my ignorance. However, thefuckingweather.com says Seoul is currently hotter, so he should be fine :3.
lol are u joking? Phoenix is the hottest metropolis in the US. Average temp during summer is 105-112. Forecast for Monday is 110.
I hope he doesn't find it too discomforting tho haha. and shit i didnt even think about the parking ticket... weak.
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After the atrocious way PuMa was treated by the crowd during IEM, I really hope he sees this greet and realises most of us are actually very welcoming to the korean players.
I just wish I was able to attend as well. =(
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On August 21 2011 16:16 Sarang wrote:
After the atrocious way PuMa was treated by the crowd during IEM, I really hope he sees this greet and realises most of us are actually very welcoming to the korean players.
I just wish I was able to attend as well. =(
What happened in IEM?
EDIT: I'll take a guess it has something to do with being an EG and going up against EU players. If that is the case, then we wouldn't have any koreans coming back by the end of the year at MLG!
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On August 21 2011 16:27 spybreak wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 16:16 Sarang wrote:
After the atrocious way PuMa was treated by the crowd during IEM, I really hope he sees this greet and realises most of us are actually very welcoming to the korean players.
I just wish I was able to attend as well. =( What happened in IEM? EDIT: I'll take a guess it has something to do with being an EG and going up against EU players. If that is the case, then we wouldn't have any koreans coming back by the end of the year at MLG!
It was discussed in the LR thread for Day 4 of the event, here's the main post about it by someone who attended the event
+ Show Spoiler +On August 21 2011 06:39 chocopaw wrote:
I was there today and enjoyed the good games. What I did not enjoy was the following. I'm not sure if the incident has been mentioned before.
If you watched the stream you probably saw how enthusiastically Socke was greeted by the fans. The crowd got heated up by Take even more.
Don't get me wrong, while I wouldn't call myself a fan I have nothing against Socke, I enjoyed quite a few games of him. But as an anti-nationalist I don't see why I should root for him because of where he was born.
When Puma entered the stage there were quite a few "boo"-shouters. I don't know if they did it because of the EG "scandal", because he is Korean or simply because he was Sockes opponent and they would have done it against anyone else.
When I cheered for Puma after good actions by him, showcasing his superior play, I in fact earned angry reactions. Just because I was for the wrong player. Again, this might have been anti-EG, it might have been anti-Socke's opponent, but the point is, it doesn't really matter.
I don't know if the following was on the stream:
In the commercial break between the second and third match Take entered the stage to announce that there had been attempts of glaring Puma with a laser pointer while the second match was going on. Take said that if they were continued they would send everyone away and let the players end the series backstage to assure the matches could be played under fair conditions. They actually had an IEM guy stand in front of Puma in the third match to prevent further incidents.
Now, while I am a political person, I usually try to not let that interfere with my hobby. If people have to root for a player because of his home country I let them have their fun, as long as they don't hop on the "No Koreans at MLG!"-bandwagon or shit like that. But today a line was crossed for me when I experienced hostility because I rooted for the "wrong" player. The laser pointer act might have been executed by a stupid troll, but it might as well have been a overzealous Socke fan.
My point is: I am disgusted by even the possibility of this being a trend in the esports community. What if that weren't just a few stupid individuals? I hope that every esports fan who witnesses behavious similar to what I described in this post distances him- or herself from it and feels ashamed if people not related to esports see them as representatives of our hobby and scene. Please do everything to keep esports positive, international and open to everybody, and first of all: keep it revolving around the fun!
TL:DR - PuMa was boo'ed by the crowd, people who cheered for him got "angry reactions" from other people in the crowd, and worst of all he had a laser pointer aimed at his face when he was playing.
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Sorry, didn't get the whole drama on the stream and missed it in the live thread. Wow that really sucks what a terrible crowd.
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On August 21 2011 16:47 Sarang wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 16:27 spybreak wrote:On August 21 2011 16:16 Sarang wrote:
After the atrocious way PuMa was treated by the crowd during IEM, I really hope he sees this greet and realises most of us are actually very welcoming to the korean players.
I just wish I was able to attend as well. =( What happened in IEM? EDIT: I'll take a guess it has something to do with being an EG and going up against EU players. If that is the case, then we wouldn't have any koreans coming back by the end of the year at MLG! It was discussed in the LR thread for Day 4 of the event, here's the main post about it by someone who attended the event + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2011 06:39 chocopaw wrote:
I was there today and enjoyed the good games. What I did not enjoy was the following. I'm not sure if the incident has been mentioned before.
If you watched the stream you probably saw how enthusiastically Socke was greeted by the fans. The crowd got heated up by Take even more.
Don't get me wrong, while I wouldn't call myself a fan I have nothing against Socke, I enjoyed quite a few games of him. But as an anti-nationalist I don't see why I should root for him because of where he was born.
When Puma entered the stage there were quite a few "boo"-shouters. I don't know if they did it because of the EG "scandal", because he is Korean or simply because he was Sockes opponent and they would have done it against anyone else.
When I cheered for Puma after good actions by him, showcasing his superior play, I in fact earned angry reactions. Just because I was for the wrong player. Again, this might have been anti-EG, it might have been anti-Socke's opponent, but the point is, it doesn't really matter.
I don't know if the following was on the stream:
In the commercial break between the second and third match Take entered the stage to announce that there had been attempts of glaring Puma with a laser pointer while the second match was going on. Take said that if they were continued they would send everyone away and let the players end the series backstage to assure the matches could be played under fair conditions. They actually had an IEM guy stand in front of Puma in the third match to prevent further incidents.
Now, while I am a political person, I usually try to not let that interfere with my hobby. If people have to root for a player because of his home country I let them have their fun, as long as they don't hop on the "No Koreans at MLG!"-bandwagon or shit like that. But today a line was crossed for me when I experienced hostility because I rooted for the "wrong" player. The laser pointer act might have been executed by a stupid troll, but it might as well have been a overzealous Socke fan.
My point is: I am disgusted by even the possibility of this being a trend in the esports community. What if that weren't just a few stupid individuals? I hope that every esports fan who witnesses behavious similar to what I described in this post distances him- or herself from it and feels ashamed if people not related to esports see them as representatives of our hobby and scene. Please do everything to keep esports positive, international and open to everybody, and first of all: keep it revolving around the fun! TL:DR - PuMa was boo'ed by the crowd, people who cheered for him got "angry reactions" from other people in the crowd, and worst of all he had a laser pointer aimed at his face when he was playing.
Thanks Germany - FOR RUINING E-SPORTS
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On August 21 2011 19:33 Netsky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 16:47 Sarang wrote:On August 21 2011 16:27 spybreak wrote:On August 21 2011 16:16 Sarang wrote:
After the atrocious way PuMa was treated by the crowd during IEM, I really hope he sees this greet and realises most of us are actually very welcoming to the korean players.
I just wish I was able to attend as well. =( What happened in IEM? EDIT: I'll take a guess it has something to do with being an EG and going up against EU players. If that is the case, then we wouldn't have any koreans coming back by the end of the year at MLG! It was discussed in the LR thread for Day 4 of the event, here's the main post about it by someone who attended the event + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2011 06:39 chocopaw wrote:
I was there today and enjoyed the good games. What I did not enjoy was the following. I'm not sure if the incident has been mentioned before.
If you watched the stream you probably saw how enthusiastically Socke was greeted by the fans. The crowd got heated up by Take even more.
Don't get me wrong, while I wouldn't call myself a fan I have nothing against Socke, I enjoyed quite a few games of him. But as an anti-nationalist I don't see why I should root for him because of where he was born.
When Puma entered the stage there were quite a few "boo"-shouters. I don't know if they did it because of the EG "scandal", because he is Korean or simply because he was Sockes opponent and they would have done it against anyone else.
When I cheered for Puma after good actions by him, showcasing his superior play, I in fact earned angry reactions. Just because I was for the wrong player. Again, this might have been anti-EG, it might have been anti-Socke's opponent, but the point is, it doesn't really matter.
I don't know if the following was on the stream:
In the commercial break between the second and third match Take entered the stage to announce that there had been attempts of glaring Puma with a laser pointer while the second match was going on. Take said that if they were continued they would send everyone away and let the players end the series backstage to assure the matches could be played under fair conditions. They actually had an IEM guy stand in front of Puma in the third match to prevent further incidents.
Now, while I am a political person, I usually try to not let that interfere with my hobby. If people have to root for a player because of his home country I let them have their fun, as long as they don't hop on the "No Koreans at MLG!"-bandwagon or shit like that. But today a line was crossed for me when I experienced hostility because I rooted for the "wrong" player. The laser pointer act might have been executed by a stupid troll, but it might as well have been a overzealous Socke fan.
My point is: I am disgusted by even the possibility of this being a trend in the esports community. What if that weren't just a few stupid individuals? I hope that every esports fan who witnesses behavious similar to what I described in this post distances him- or herself from it and feels ashamed if people not related to esports see them as representatives of our hobby and scene. Please do everything to keep esports positive, international and open to everybody, and first of all: keep it revolving around the fun! TL:DR - PuMa was boo'ed by the crowd, people who cheered for him got "angry reactions" from other people in the crowd, and worst of all he had a laser pointer aimed at his face when he was playing. Thanks Germany - FOR RUINING E-SPORTS
Please don't blame a whole nation for the childish behaviour of some jerks who don't understand that esports is a real buisness. in the midst of thousands of people they probably felt anonym and cool to do some shitty things. in real sports such stuff happens all the time. as i heard in here ESL had good reactions though.
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On August 21 2011 19:45 seenster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 19:33 Netsky wrote:On August 21 2011 16:47 Sarang wrote:On August 21 2011 16:27 spybreak wrote:On August 21 2011 16:16 Sarang wrote:
After the atrocious way PuMa was treated by the crowd during IEM, I really hope he sees this greet and realises most of us are actually very welcoming to the korean players.
I just wish I was able to attend as well. =( What happened in IEM? EDIT: I'll take a guess it has something to do with being an EG and going up against EU players. If that is the case, then we wouldn't have any koreans coming back by the end of the year at MLG! It was discussed in the LR thread for Day 4 of the event, here's the main post about it by someone who attended the event + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2011 06:39 chocopaw wrote:
I was there today and enjoyed the good games. What I did not enjoy was the following. I'm not sure if the incident has been mentioned before.
If you watched the stream you probably saw how enthusiastically Socke was greeted by the fans. The crowd got heated up by Take even more.
Don't get me wrong, while I wouldn't call myself a fan I have nothing against Socke, I enjoyed quite a few games of him. But as an anti-nationalist I don't see why I should root for him because of where he was born.
When Puma entered the stage there were quite a few "boo"-shouters. I don't know if they did it because of the EG "scandal", because he is Korean or simply because he was Sockes opponent and they would have done it against anyone else.
When I cheered for Puma after good actions by him, showcasing his superior play, I in fact earned angry reactions. Just because I was for the wrong player. Again, this might have been anti-EG, it might have been anti-Socke's opponent, but the point is, it doesn't really matter.
I don't know if the following was on the stream:
In the commercial break between the second and third match Take entered the stage to announce that there had been attempts of glaring Puma with a laser pointer while the second match was going on. Take said that if they were continued they would send everyone away and let the players end the series backstage to assure the matches could be played under fair conditions. They actually had an IEM guy stand in front of Puma in the third match to prevent further incidents.
Now, while I am a political person, I usually try to not let that interfere with my hobby. If people have to root for a player because of his home country I let them have their fun, as long as they don't hop on the "No Koreans at MLG!"-bandwagon or shit like that. But today a line was crossed for me when I experienced hostility because I rooted for the "wrong" player. The laser pointer act might have been executed by a stupid troll, but it might as well have been a overzealous Socke fan.
My point is: I am disgusted by even the possibility of this being a trend in the esports community. What if that weren't just a few stupid individuals? I hope that every esports fan who witnesses behavious similar to what I described in this post distances him- or herself from it and feels ashamed if people not related to esports see them as representatives of our hobby and scene. Please do everything to keep esports positive, international and open to everybody, and first of all: keep it revolving around the fun! TL:DR - PuMa was boo'ed by the crowd, people who cheered for him got "angry reactions" from other people in the crowd, and worst of all he had a laser pointer aimed at his face when he was playing. Thanks Germany - FOR RUINING E-SPORTS Please don't blame a whole nation for the childish behaviour of some jerks who don't understand that esports is a real buisness. in the midst of thousands of people they probably felt anonym and cool to do some shitty things. in real sports such stuff happens all the time. as i heard in here ESL had good reactions though.
I don't know if you know this but in day 1 some guy threw some sort of object at Mr. BItter and Socke while they were casting a game in the main stage... I don't know what's wrong with people.
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On August 21 2011 23:02 eunao2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 19:45 seenster wrote:On August 21 2011 19:33 Netsky wrote:On August 21 2011 16:47 Sarang wrote:On August 21 2011 16:27 spybreak wrote:On August 21 2011 16:16 Sarang wrote:
After the atrocious way PuMa was treated by the crowd during IEM, I really hope he sees this greet and realises most of us are actually very welcoming to the korean players.
I just wish I was able to attend as well. =( What happened in IEM? EDIT: I'll take a guess it has something to do with being an EG and going up against EU players. If that is the case, then we wouldn't have any koreans coming back by the end of the year at MLG! It was discussed in the LR thread for Day 4 of the event, here's the main post about it by someone who attended the event + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2011 06:39 chocopaw wrote:
I was there today and enjoyed the good games. What I did not enjoy was the following. I'm not sure if the incident has been mentioned before.
If you watched the stream you probably saw how enthusiastically Socke was greeted by the fans. The crowd got heated up by Take even more.
Don't get me wrong, while I wouldn't call myself a fan I have nothing against Socke, I enjoyed quite a few games of him. But as an anti-nationalist I don't see why I should root for him because of where he was born.
When Puma entered the stage there were quite a few "boo"-shouters. I don't know if they did it because of the EG "scandal", because he is Korean or simply because he was Sockes opponent and they would have done it against anyone else.
When I cheered for Puma after good actions by him, showcasing his superior play, I in fact earned angry reactions. Just because I was for the wrong player. Again, this might have been anti-EG, it might have been anti-Socke's opponent, but the point is, it doesn't really matter.
I don't know if the following was on the stream:
In the commercial break between the second and third match Take entered the stage to announce that there had been attempts of glaring Puma with a laser pointer while the second match was going on. Take said that if they were continued they would send everyone away and let the players end the series backstage to assure the matches could be played under fair conditions. They actually had an IEM guy stand in front of Puma in the third match to prevent further incidents.
Now, while I am a political person, I usually try to not let that interfere with my hobby. If people have to root for a player because of his home country I let them have their fun, as long as they don't hop on the "No Koreans at MLG!"-bandwagon or shit like that. But today a line was crossed for me when I experienced hostility because I rooted for the "wrong" player. The laser pointer act might have been executed by a stupid troll, but it might as well have been a overzealous Socke fan.
My point is: I am disgusted by even the possibility of this being a trend in the esports community. What if that weren't just a few stupid individuals? I hope that every esports fan who witnesses behavious similar to what I described in this post distances him- or herself from it and feels ashamed if people not related to esports see them as representatives of our hobby and scene. Please do everything to keep esports positive, international and open to everybody, and first of all: keep it revolving around the fun! TL:DR - PuMa was boo'ed by the crowd, people who cheered for him got "angry reactions" from other people in the crowd, and worst of all he had a laser pointer aimed at his face when he was playing. Thanks Germany - FOR RUINING E-SPORTS Please don't blame a whole nation for the childish behaviour of some jerks who don't understand that esports is a real buisness. in the midst of thousands of people they probably felt anonym and cool to do some shitty things. in real sports such stuff happens all the time. as i heard in here ESL had good reactions though. I don't know if you know this but in day 1 some guy threw some sort of object at Mr. BItter and Socke while they were casting a game in the main stage... I don't know what's wrong with people.
yesterday i sat in the front of the xmg series stage and some guys threw stuff on the stage. you allways gonna face people retarted like this. but please do not generalize. the behaviour of a few doesn't say anything about a whole country. it's just people beeing stupid.
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On August 21 2011 23:23 seenster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 23:02 eunao2 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:45 seenster wrote:On August 21 2011 19:33 Netsky wrote:On August 21 2011 16:47 Sarang wrote:On August 21 2011 16:27 spybreak wrote:On August 21 2011 16:16 Sarang wrote:
After the atrocious way PuMa was treated by the crowd during IEM, I really hope he sees this greet and realises most of us are actually very welcoming to the korean players.
I just wish I was able to attend as well. =( What happened in IEM? EDIT: I'll take a guess it has something to do with being an EG and going up against EU players. If that is the case, then we wouldn't have any koreans coming back by the end of the year at MLG! It was discussed in the LR thread for Day 4 of the event, here's the main post about it by someone who attended the event + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2011 06:39 chocopaw wrote:
I was there today and enjoyed the good games. What I did not enjoy was the following. I'm not sure if the incident has been mentioned before.
If you watched the stream you probably saw how enthusiastically Socke was greeted by the fans. The crowd got heated up by Take even more.
Don't get me wrong, while I wouldn't call myself a fan I have nothing against Socke, I enjoyed quite a few games of him. But as an anti-nationalist I don't see why I should root for him because of where he was born.
When Puma entered the stage there were quite a few "boo"-shouters. I don't know if they did it because of the EG "scandal", because he is Korean or simply because he was Sockes opponent and they would have done it against anyone else.
When I cheered for Puma after good actions by him, showcasing his superior play, I in fact earned angry reactions. Just because I was for the wrong player. Again, this might have been anti-EG, it might have been anti-Socke's opponent, but the point is, it doesn't really matter.
I don't know if the following was on the stream:
In the commercial break between the second and third match Take entered the stage to announce that there had been attempts of glaring Puma with a laser pointer while the second match was going on. Take said that if they were continued they would send everyone away and let the players end the series backstage to assure the matches could be played under fair conditions. They actually had an IEM guy stand in front of Puma in the third match to prevent further incidents.
Now, while I am a political person, I usually try to not let that interfere with my hobby. If people have to root for a player because of his home country I let them have their fun, as long as they don't hop on the "No Koreans at MLG!"-bandwagon or shit like that. But today a line was crossed for me when I experienced hostility because I rooted for the "wrong" player. The laser pointer act might have been executed by a stupid troll, but it might as well have been a overzealous Socke fan.
My point is: I am disgusted by even the possibility of this being a trend in the esports community. What if that weren't just a few stupid individuals? I hope that every esports fan who witnesses behavious similar to what I described in this post distances him- or herself from it and feels ashamed if people not related to esports see them as representatives of our hobby and scene. Please do everything to keep esports positive, international and open to everybody, and first of all: keep it revolving around the fun! TL:DR - PuMa was boo'ed by the crowd, people who cheered for him got "angry reactions" from other people in the crowd, and worst of all he had a laser pointer aimed at his face when he was playing. Thanks Germany - FOR RUINING E-SPORTS Please don't blame a whole nation for the childish behaviour of some jerks who don't understand that esports is a real buisness. in the midst of thousands of people they probably felt anonym and cool to do some shitty things. in real sports such stuff happens all the time. as i heard in here ESL had good reactions though. I don't know if you know this but in day 1 some guy threw some sort of object at Mr. BItter and Socke while they were casting a game in the main stage... I don't know what's wrong with people. yesterday i sat in the front of the xmg series stage and some guys threw stuff on the stage. you allways gonna face people retarted like this. but please do not generalize. the behaviour of a few doesn't say anything about a whole country. it's just people beeing stupid.
I completetly agree I just don't understand why iem hasn't done anything to prevent such incidents.
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