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Zurich15365 Posts
On March 28 2011 19:39 Atlare wrote:
Serious question: Could you name a few really stand-out posters who have not yet received a star (which seems to be out of fashion nowadays), blue fill for strategy forums or any sort of staff privileges? I'm not talking progamers who post every now and then I mean that one random guy who just posts solid gold all the time!
My personal favorite was DefMatrixUltra, but it seems he has left us for LoL or something. A sad loss.
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On March 29 2011 20:57 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 19:39 Atlare wrote:
Serious question: Could you name a few really stand-out posters who have not yet received a star (which seems to be out of fashion nowadays), blue fill for strategy forums or any sort of staff privileges? I'm not talking progamers who post every now and then I mean that one random guy who just posts solid gold all the time! My personal favorite was DefMatrixUltra, but it seems he has left us for LoL or something. A sad loss.
Did no one tell him about the subforum?
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I got a few questions:
1) How did Physician Ragnar Birko get his star?
2) Has there ever been anyone in TL history who was offered a position on the staff, but turned the offer down? If so, what reason was given for the declination?
3) How big a party are you planning to throw once the TSL is over? Specifically, how much alcohol will each staff member imbibe?
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On March 29 2011 23:24 Aeres wrote:
I got a few questions:
3) How big a party are you planning to throw once the TSL is over? Specifically, how much alcohol will each staff member imbibe?
Well, take all the alcohol consumed during SOTG episode 24, multiply that by the number of ALLCAPS posts about the White-Ra vs MC game coming up in the Ro16, and divide by the total number of staff members. That will give you approx how much alcohol will be served.
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On March 29 2011 23:24 Aeres wrote:
3) How big a party are you planning to throw once the TSL is over? Specifically, how much alcohol will each staff member imbibe?
If you thought Bob was a heavy drinker, you've yet to meet SonuvBob.
Helluvason, Hellauvson
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United States44012 Posts
On March 29 2011 20:57 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 19:39 Atlare wrote:
Serious question: Could you name a few really stand-out posters who have not yet received a star (which seems to be out of fashion nowadays), blue fill for strategy forums or any sort of staff privileges? I'm not talking progamers who post every now and then I mean that one random guy who just posts solid gold all the time! My personal favorite was DefMatrixUltra, but it seems he has left us for LoL or something. A sad loss.
eve :D
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On March 29 2011 20:26 FranzP wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 19:36 Qzy wrote:
My question: Why wont you allow re-streamers of GOM.tv's stream? Their software is utterly bugged, impossible to get working - please allow restreamers so we can watch Gomtv and spread the e-sports love.
I know you've been asked not to allow restreamers, but consider allowing it for non-featured streams - they are loosing viewers big time. I'm not TL staff but the answer is I think fairly simple : because it's illegal. So if the owner of the copyright comes and says "don't allow restream", teamliquid remove the stream, because it's illegal. So yeah they could say "fuck that, we're so hardcore ! We don't care about GOMTV", but I don't think they want to fight against one of the most important actor of SC2, that would be bad for esports and sc2 which is not the goal of TL i think.
Then we come down to what's profitable and what's functional. Sure it's illegal for the streamer, but it's not illegal to show where people are streaming illegal stuff + it would be beneficial for soooo many people, spreading the esports knowledge and love.
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On March 30 2011 06:03 Qzy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 20:26 FranzP wrote:On March 29 2011 19:36 Qzy wrote:
My question: Why wont you allow re-streamers of GOM.tv's stream? Their software is utterly bugged, impossible to get working - please allow restreamers so we can watch Gomtv and spread the e-sports love.
I know you've been asked not to allow restreamers, but consider allowing it for non-featured streams - they are loosing viewers big time. I'm not TL staff but the answer is I think fairly simple : because it's illegal. So if the owner of the copyright comes and says "don't allow restream", teamliquid remove the stream, because it's illegal. So yeah they could say "fuck that, we're so hardcore ! We don't care about GOMTV", but I don't think they want to fight against one of the most important actor of SC2, that would be bad for esports and sc2 which is not the goal of TL i think. Then we come down to what's profitable and what's functional. Sure it's illegal for the streamer, but it's not illegal to show where people are streaming illegal stuff + it would be beneficial for soooo many people, spreading the esports knowledge and love. No one is arguing that it wouldn't be beneficial to be able to provide re-stream but the fact of the matter is, it's illegal to do so. It's illegal for TL to hold re-streams AND show where people are streaming it. If TL showed where people are streaming it then it would mean they support re-streams and it defeats the purpose yes? To me, re-stream is like shooting someone, and then providing where the re-streams are is like giving that guy the gun to do the shooting, both is wrong.
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On March 30 2011 06:03 Qzy wrote:
Then we come down to what's profitable and what's functional. Sure it's illegal for the streamer, but it's not illegal to show where people are streaming illegal stuff + it would be beneficial for soooo many people, spreading the esports knowledge and love.
Maybe in Denmark it isn't illegal, but that is an open question in the US. Or at least one that hasn't been fully hashed out in the courts yet. TL.net has no reason to open themselves up to potential liability, especially when they have been requested to not allow such streams by the content holders themselves. I don't think there is much of a chance for this at all.
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On March 29 2011 23:24 Aeres wrote:
I got a few questions:
1) How did Physician Ragnar Birko get his star?
2) Has there ever been anyone in TL history who was offered a position on the staff, but turned the offer down? If so, what reason was given for the declination?
3) How big a party are you planning to throw once the TSL is over? Specifically, how much alcohol will each staff member imbibe?
1. No one knows.
2. I did, but it didn't work. And I'm not the only one. You don't say no to Manifesto7, unless you want to wake up next to a severed pony head.
3. It'll be huge. So big we'll have to plan it for at least a few months. But we should probably finalize plans for the TSL1 party first.
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Why can't we respond to the really shitty threads with image macros? It takes more thought and effort to find the appropriate one and post it than the thought and effort put into a lot of threads.
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On March 30 2011 07:01 Geovu wrote:
Why can't we respond to the really shitty threads with image macros? It takes more thought and effort to find the appropriate one and post it than the thought and effort put into a lot of threads. 2 Wrongs don't make a right?
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Korea (South)11597 Posts
On March 30 2011 06:03 Qzy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 20:26 FranzP wrote:On March 29 2011 19:36 Qzy wrote:
My question: Why wont you allow re-streamers of GOM.tv's stream? Their software is utterly bugged, impossible to get working - please allow restreamers so we can watch Gomtv and spread the e-sports love.
I know you've been asked not to allow restreamers, but consider allowing it for non-featured streams - they are loosing viewers big time. I'm not TL staff but the answer is I think fairly simple : because it's illegal. So if the owner of the copyright comes and says "don't allow restream", teamliquid remove the stream, because it's illegal. So yeah they could say "fuck that, we're so hardcore ! We don't care about GOMTV", but I don't think they want to fight against one of the most important actor of SC2, that would be bad for esports and sc2 which is not the goal of TL i think. Then we come down to what's profitable and what's functional. Sure it's illegal for the streamer, but it's not illegal to show where people are streaming illegal stuff + it would be beneficial for soooo many people, spreading the esports knowledge and love.
Not to mention, that Artosis and Tasteless (MyLostTemple on TL) are both TeamLiquid members and respected members of the community. If we re-stream GOMTV's streams, not only will GOM lose money, but as would Tasteless & Artosis. Plus it would look bad in the eyes of the professional world and it would be hard to take us seriously if we act like rebelling 15 year old kids. Plus $10 is really cheap. If you want to watch the VODs then I'm sure you can ask for mommy or daddy's credit card, or use your allowance money.
If you REALLY want to be a rebel you can just stay up late and sleep in school because you want to watch it live like what I did when I was in high school (for the OSL,MSL & Proleague).
And the community isn't even that poor as we have paid for Tasteless to fly to WCG to commentate before
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58683
and
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=59201
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On March 30 2011 07:14 CaucasianAsian wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2011 06:03 Qzy wrote:On March 29 2011 20:26 FranzP wrote:On March 29 2011 19:36 Qzy wrote:
My question: Why wont you allow re-streamers of GOM.tv's stream? Their software is utterly bugged, impossible to get working - please allow restreamers so we can watch Gomtv and spread the e-sports love.
I know you've been asked not to allow restreamers, but consider allowing it for non-featured streams - they are loosing viewers big time. I'm not TL staff but the answer is I think fairly simple : because it's illegal. So if the owner of the copyright comes and says "don't allow restream", teamliquid remove the stream, because it's illegal. So yeah they could say "fuck that, we're so hardcore ! We don't care about GOMTV", but I don't think they want to fight against one of the most important actor of SC2, that would be bad for esports and sc2 which is not the goal of TL i think. Then we come down to what's profitable and what's functional. Sure it's illegal for the streamer, but it's not illegal to show where people are streaming illegal stuff + it would be beneficial for soooo many people, spreading the esports knowledge and love. Not to mention, that Artosis and Tasteless (MyLostTemple on TL) are both TeamLiquid members and respected members of the community. If we re-stream GOMTV's streams, not only will GOM lose money, but as would Tasteless & Artosis. Plus it would look bad in the eyes of the professional world and it would be hard to take us seriously if we act like rebelling 15 year old kids. Plus $10 is really cheap. If you want to watch the VODs then I'm sure you can ask for mommy or daddy's credit card, or use your allowance money. If you REALLY want to be a rebel you can just stay up late and sleep in school because you want to watch it live like what I did when I was in high school (for the OSL,MSL & Proleague). And the community isn't even that poor as we have paid for Tasteless to fly to WCG to commentate before http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58683 and http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=59201
Or you could be Australian and only lose sleep when the TSL is on since the GSL starts at 8pm here :D
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On March 30 2011 07:01 Geovu wrote:
Why can't we respond to the really shitty threads with image macros? It takes more thought and effort to find the appropriate one and post it than the thought and effort put into a lot of threads.
You shouldn't be posting in crappy threads at all. Simply ignore them and/or hit the report button in hopes that they either get closed very quickly (very likely), or wait until the thread drowns below other threads and until the OP undoubtedly gets temp banned 1 hour later for bumping his crappy thread.
In general when you post you should do it from a perspective of strictly contributing something meaningful to the discussion or the community in general. If the topic is crappy, there's nothing worthwile to be contributed and as such you shouldn't post just to raise your post count.
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United States22883 Posts
On March 29 2011 07:08 TheKing. wrote:
Alright, this may have been posted earlier, i am about 1/2 way through this thread, very insightful, and i wanted to know, What streams (not tournaments) do you/would you if you had the time, watch, and which are your favorite/s?
Lately I've been watching Fargo, Tyler, White_Ra and Kolll, whenever he's on.
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To any staff that cares to answer:
What would you say is the biggest difference between a high-quality (possibly featured) and a low-quality run-of-the-mill SC2 stream? What is some general advice you would give to a caster or streamer looking to improve the quality of their content?
Thanks.
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Hey I was wondering if you guys will ever add a delete your own post feature? I come across several instances where I post something and someone else posts it right before me. I know I can edit but then I just have a random stupid post sitting there saying nothing. I think people should be able to delete their own posts.
I recall posting in a thread recently. Wasn't a very popular one, but it was about the world championships and I had to just change my post to <3 HuK. Now as much as HuK is awesome, I would rather not have this random post that contributes nothing to the thread there.
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United States22883 Posts
On March 30 2011 08:22 HardCorey wrote:
To any staff that cares to answer:
What would you say is the biggest difference between a high-quality (possibly featured) and a low-quality run-of-the-mill SC2 stream? What is some general advice you would give to a caster or streamer looking to improve the quality of their content?
Thanks.
The easiest thing right off the bat is how you handle yourself. That includes viewer involvement, stuff to improve the community like rep packs, explanations, coaching, etc. and simply being a good person. Skill is obviously important, but I try to reward the good guys first.
As far as playing goes, the big characteristic I look for is mechanics.
If you're a caster, it's a bit more tricky because you can always attach yourself to calender events which puts you above the Featured streams. For casters, it's about good casting, longevity and consistency. If you can do something else to benefit the community too, that's always appreciated too.
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@ Chill:
Just saw you reached 19996 posts. Can we expect anything special for your 20k mark?
edit: even though your neutral commentary was already spot on! 
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