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Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
March 30 2011 00:14 GMT
#2561
On March 30 2011 07:14 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 06:03 Qzy wrote:
On March 29 2011 20:26 FranzP wrote:
On March 29 2011 19:36 Qzy wrote:
My question: Why wont you allow re-streamers of GOM.tv's stream? Their software is utterly bugged, impossible to get working - please allow restreamers so we can watch Gomtv and spread the e-sports love.

I know you've been asked not to allow restreamers, but consider allowing it for non-featured streams - they are loosing viewers big time.


I'm not TL staff but the answer is I think fairly simple : because it's illegal. So if the owner of the copyright comes and says "don't allow restream", teamliquid remove the stream, because it's illegal.

So yeah they could say "fuck that, we're so hardcore ! We don't care about GOMTV", but I don't think they want to fight against one of the most important actor of SC2, that would be bad for esports and sc2 which is not the goal of TL i think.


Then we come down to what's profitable and what's functional. Sure it's illegal for the streamer, but it's not illegal to show where people are streaming illegal stuff + it would be beneficial for soooo many people, spreading the esports knowledge and love.


Not to mention, that Artosis and Tasteless (MyLostTemple on TL) are both TeamLiquid members and respected members of the community. If we re-stream GOMTV's streams, not only will GOM lose money, but as would Tasteless & Artosis. Plus it would look bad in the eyes of the professional world and it would be hard to take us seriously if we act like rebelling 15 year old kids. Plus $10 is really cheap. If you want to watch the VODs then I'm sure you can ask for mommy or daddy's credit card, or use your allowance money.

If you REALLY want to be a rebel you can just stay up late and sleep in school because you want to watch it live like what I did when I was in high school (for the OSL,MSL & Proleague).

And the community isn't even that poor as we have paid for Tasteless to fly to WCG to commentate before
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58683
and
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=59201



Problem is, I wont support a company which can't make a proper piece of software - ever.
TG Sambo... Intel classic! Life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 00:16:22
March 30 2011 00:14 GMT
#2562
@ McKTenor13
On March 21 2011 11:28 adso wrote:
Deleting post is like rewritting history... only admins/mods are allowed to do it.

There is a trial period when you can't post threads. It's another way to say "work on your thread before posting it"

have a good tl


It may answer your question. Although you are right .. it also happens a lot to me. I write something and those ninjas just ninja right in
Where is my ACE flair
Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 01:49:56
March 30 2011 01:44 GMT
#2563
On March 30 2011 09:14 Qzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 07:14 CaucasianAsian wrote:
On March 30 2011 06:03 Qzy wrote:
On March 29 2011 20:26 FranzP wrote:
On March 29 2011 19:36 Qzy wrote:
My question: Why wont you allow re-streamers of GOM.tv's stream? Their software is utterly bugged, impossible to get working - please allow restreamers so we can watch Gomtv and spread the e-sports love.

I know you've been asked not to allow restreamers, but consider allowing it for non-featured streams - they are loosing viewers big time.


I'm not TL staff but the answer is I think fairly simple : because it's illegal. So if the owner of the copyright comes and says "don't allow restream", teamliquid remove the stream, because it's illegal.

So yeah they could say "fuck that, we're so hardcore ! We don't care about GOMTV", but I don't think they want to fight against one of the most important actor of SC2, that would be bad for esports and sc2 which is not the goal of TL i think.


Then we come down to what's profitable and what's functional. Sure it's illegal for the streamer, but it's not illegal to show where people are streaming illegal stuff + it would be beneficial for soooo many people, spreading the esports knowledge and love.


Not to mention, that Artosis and Tasteless (MyLostTemple on TL) are both TeamLiquid members and respected members of the community. If we re-stream GOMTV's streams, not only will GOM lose money, but as would Tasteless & Artosis. Plus it would look bad in the eyes of the professional world and it would be hard to take us seriously if we act like rebelling 15 year old kids. Plus $10 is really cheap. If you want to watch the VODs then I'm sure you can ask for mommy or daddy's credit card, or use your allowance money.

If you REALLY want to be a rebel you can just stay up late and sleep in school because you want to watch it live like what I did when I was in high school (for the OSL,MSL & Proleague).

And the community isn't even that poor as we have paid for Tasteless to fly to WCG to commentate before
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58683
and
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=59201



Problem is, I wont support a company which can't make a proper piece of software - ever.

Well then you must have serious problems with Apple, Microsoft (for Internet Explorer and Vista), Blizzard (who decided to skip on chat channels for 9 months) and basically any other software company that has made a mistake before.

Its copywrighted material, why would you condone restreaming? Surely its not hard to pay $10 to watch it whenever you want?

EDIT: to un-derail
Q: To any staff members, what is your favourite movie? (or a list of a few movies that contend for the title)
Considering learning BW
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
March 30 2011 01:48 GMT
#2564
On March 30 2011 09:12 Spekulatius wrote:
@ Chill:

Just saw you reached 19996 posts. Can we expect anything special for your 20k mark?

edit: even though your neutral commentary was already spot on!


I'm going to try to snipe his 20k with my 15k.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
March 30 2011 02:10 GMT
#2565
Why do people do the things they do?

more reasonable question:
Pretty sure it doesn't need to be asked. But for fun is Carnac the creator of the wonderful Carnac's Maul for warcraft 3.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 30 2011 02:23 GMT
#2566
On March 30 2011 11:10 evantrees wrote:
Why do people do the things they do?

Because they want to.
Administrator
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 03:56:13
March 30 2011 03:55 GMT
#2567
A few questions, possibly been answered, but I'm not all the way through reading this.

1. What's the most posts someone has every had before a warning/temp ban? (I just got my first, was really trying to never get one. You get lazy when you're tired )

2. Who has the most posts here on TL, out of all users?

I can probably search for #2.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
March 30 2011 04:09 GMT
#2568
On March 30 2011 12:55 Dalguno wrote:
2. Who has the most posts here on TL, out of all users?

I can probably search for #2.

Haji's post count is so high, it started going backwards.
Liquipedia
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
March 30 2011 04:09 GMT
#2569
On March 30 2011 12:55 Dalguno wrote:
A few questions, possibly been answered, but I'm not all the way through reading this.

1. What's the most posts someone has every had before a warning/temp ban? (I just got my first, was really trying to never get one. You get lazy when you're tired )

2. Who has the most posts here on TL, out of all users?

I can probably search for #2.

I recently found out that Kennigit has only ever received a warning once which is pretty gosu..
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51476 Posts
March 30 2011 04:27 GMT
#2570
well myself and jinro were given non-serious warnings from other staff as a joke so i guess that doesn't count towards 'most posts before a warning'?
Commentator
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
March 30 2011 04:41 GMT
#2571
On March 30 2011 13:27 GTR wrote:
well myself and jinro were given non-serious warnings from other staff as a joke so i guess that doesn't count towards 'most posts before a warning'?


I'm 99% certain Jinro said he was temp banned (when he was frozenarbiter) before.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
March 30 2011 05:36 GMT
#2572
On March 30 2011 13:41 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 13:27 GTR wrote:
well myself and jinro were given non-serious warnings from other staff as a joke so i guess that doesn't count towards 'most posts before a warning'?


I'm 99% certain Jinro said he was temp banned (when he was frozenarbiter) before.


You are 100% wrong.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
mormonaculous
Profile Joined January 2011
United States33 Posts
March 30 2011 06:08 GMT
#2573
Hey, sorry if this has already been posted relatively recently, but about how many hits a day does TL get? And is there a count of how many members exist?

(I'm trying to write a college research paper on competitive Starcraft, TL stats would be valuable ^^)
Alton Brown is my homeboy
Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
March 30 2011 06:32 GMT
#2574
Has there ever been a mod/banling that has been demoted for bad conduct or something similar?
Is day[9]'s mother the only account to get a star with <20 posts (or so)..
(the reference is in a thread I can't find where Day[9]'s mother signed up to TL.net and posted so someone could tell Shaun/Nick some stuff while they were at a tournament)
Considering learning BW
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
March 30 2011 06:35 GMT
#2575
On March 30 2011 15:32 Atlare wrote:
Has there ever been a mod/banling that has been demoted for bad conduct or something similar?
Is day[9]'s mother the only account to get a star with <20 posts (or so)..
(the reference is in a thread I can't find where Day[9]'s mother signed up to TL.net and posted so someone could tell Shaun/Nick some stuff while they were at a tournament)


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80119
"The zoo could not confirm that Binky was the attacker, but only Binky had blood on his face following the incident"
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
March 30 2011 06:37 GMT
#2576
On March 30 2011 15:08 mormonaculous wrote:
Hey, sorry if this has already been posted relatively recently, but about how many hits a day does TL get? And is there a count of how many members exist?

(I'm trying to write a college research paper on competitive Starcraft, TL stats would be valuable ^^)



Around 150k-200k unique hits per day.

As of me posting this, there are 164888 accounts registered on TL.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
March 30 2011 06:46 GMT
#2577
On March 30 2011 15:35 Binky1842 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 15:32 Atlare wrote:
Has there ever been a mod/banling that has been demoted for bad conduct or something similar?
Is day[9]'s mother the only account to get a star with <20 posts (or so)..
(the reference is in a thread I can't find where Day[9]'s mother signed up to TL.net and posted so someone could tell Shaun/Nick some stuff while they were at a tournament)


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80119


Thats the thread! God it never stops been funny
Considering learning BW
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 30 2011 06:47 GMT
#2578
Who is the most nerd-baller staff member?
On a scale of jobber to tastosis.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
adso
Profile Joined March 2011
718 Posts
March 30 2011 08:36 GMT
#2579
On March 30 2011 15:08 mormonaculous wrote:
Hey, sorry if this has already been posted relatively recently, but about how many hits a day does TL get? And is there a count of how many members exist?
(I'm trying to write a college research paper on competitive Starcraft, TL stats would be valuable ^^)

If you are serious about research (good at it too?), i suggest reading the threads through and through (200 pages "pillar" threads take no more than 1/2 hours to read decently, however, that's just like finding the treasure map, not the treasure itself.. finding the treasures/rewards takes more like a year or two)

Best links are hidden in a sea of posts...
(feel the american lawyers' influence in tl shaping method?)

i'd also suggest reading all the ops with more than 20000 hits...

tl is a rare example of a "working" forum (well several actually, just disregard the strategy forums, you'll get enough data about it from tlbot and its cousin )
and
although the statistics have radically changed "recently" (as in "since sc2 came out"), the data is ready to speak volumes... about sociology, psychology, also art and crafts... politics, religion, ethics, dreams, love, anger, mash potatoes... you name it it's there...

i for one, sure am curious to know what data you would choose to use
roCh
Profile Joined October 2002
Sweden870 Posts
March 30 2011 08:47 GMT
#2580
Don't really post much here.

But, who was mensrea?
roCh - pronouced rock - comes in all sizes
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