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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
September 20 2010 20:43 GMT
#241
On September 21 2010 05:19 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2010 22:36 heishe wrote:
my first ban I got was for "ruining a good thread". I was banned by kennigit, and I remember being really really upset about it. Like genuinely sad / angry that I was banned for my post. I don't exactly remember the post in question, but it was a thread about something and I posted something in a calm and mannered fashion which was actually on topic as far as I remember, but Ken disagreed with me and banned me for two weeks. Yes, not one, but two weeks. And that was my first ban I ever got. I was like really close to never ever visiting this forum again. That really upset me a lot. Not in a "omg these forum moderators are idiots" way, but more in a way that made me supersad and disappointed.


Huh?

It was two days:

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 13:19 TL.net Bot wrote:
heishe was just temp banned for 2 days by Kennigit.

That account was created on 2009-06-29 18:10:03 and had 17 posts.

The last page the Mod was looking at before this user was banned is here.

Reason: Ruining a good thread.


And your "well thought out" post was this:

Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 06:04 heishe wrote:
boni is perfectly correct you BARBARS!


....... ?



I swear I think there are some severe memory deficiencies going on with some of the repeat offenders here. Which would actually explain (quite well too) why they're repeat offenders.

It's actually ridiculous. They make up these insane stories when you can just open their mod notes and it links directly to the post they are banned for. Why would you lie about this? It's completely insane.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 20 2010 20:50 GMT
#242
On September 21 2010 04:22 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 04:19 Jyvblamo wrote:
I was banned only once, waaay back in 2006 for making possibly one of the most retarded threads ever. Now I almost never make new threads haha.

My rule now to making threads is if you're not opening up an external text editor to make the thread you're probably not trying hard enough or the topic isn't good enough for a thread.

That's actually a pretty good rule. Here, have a ban for that.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
September 20 2010 20:51 GMT
#243
On September 21 2010 05:19 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2010 22:36 heishe wrote:
my first ban I got was for "ruining a good thread". I was banned by kennigit, and I remember being really really upset about it. Like genuinely sad / angry that I was banned for my post. I don't exactly remember the post in question, but it was a thread about something and I posted something in a calm and mannered fashion which was actually on topic as far as I remember, but Ken disagreed with me and banned me for two weeks. Yes, not one, but two weeks. And that was my first ban I ever got. I was like really close to never ever visiting this forum again. That really upset me a lot. Not in a "omg these forum moderators are idiots" way, but more in a way that made me supersad and disappointed.


Huh?

It was two days:

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 13:19 TL.net Bot wrote:
heishe was just temp banned for 2 days by Kennigit.

That account was created on 2009-06-29 18:10:03 and had 17 posts.

The last page the Mod was looking at before this user was banned is here.

Reason: Ruining a good thread.


And your "well thought out" post was this:

Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 06:04 heishe wrote:
boni is perfectly correct you BARBARS!


....... ?



I swear I think there are some severe memory deficiencies going on with some of the repeat offenders here. Which would actually explain (quite well too) why they're repeat offenders.


yes, I've already replied again a few posts above you in which I've stated that my memory was totally off.

@chill
I wasn't lying. That's how it was in my memory. As I said I'm probably thinking about another ban and connected those two in some way (I also overlooked the fact that it was 2 days, not 2 weeks when I checked my PMs [they're still all there]).
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 21:07:43
September 20 2010 21:03 GMT
#244
Yeah, my bad - I didn't see someone else had called you out and you had already replied when I constructed my reply. I was reading through the thread and always get interested when someone says "My ban wasn't fair because of XYZ..." because it's almost ALWAYS wrong and they get facts/details incorrect. Like in this case you were 'very upset' over it being two weeks and look.

But my specific comment wasn't just directed at you individually, I've noticed a LOT of people feel anger/frustration and they're SO FAR OFF BASE it's just ridiculous, and you wonder if they're a capable, functioning human being. Just take a look at the past couple pages or so here to see what I mean. In many cases, people don't even understand why an action was taken against them, but we've made it clear as day:

On September 21 2010 02:48 thespitfire wrote:
i got banned from brood war strat for bad gramma, surely that was unfair



From: TL.net Bot
Subject: Warning!

This is a Warning!

Please use more capitalization and punctuation in your posts so they are more easily readable.

Also, you have been Brood War Strategy Forum banned for this terrible post:

Show nested quote +
early lots to take out acedemy for comsat u get dts no detection good bye scvs


Thanks in advance for your cooperation,
The Mod Staff

(Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.)


It's like he didn't even read it.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 21:19:37
September 20 2010 21:18 GMT
#245
Seems like a decent thread for my question.

Why in the hell posts like these aren't instantly banned, but only warned?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154536#3

I don't want to whine, but cmon, get a grip with posts like these.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
September 20 2010 21:25 GMT
#246
On September 21 2010 04:00 Chill wrote:
An analogy:
a) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You don't respond and continue talking to your friends. He ends up looking stupid and everyone looks down on him.
b) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You respond in some equal fashion in line with his insult. People look up to you for defending yourself and he ends up looking stupid.
c) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You take a baseball bat out of your truck and chase him. You end up looking stupid and everyone looks down on you.


chill you may not know me but you are one of my favorite people across all the harsh internet wastelands.

give combat-ex a rematch in sc2??
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
September 20 2010 21:27 GMT
#247
heavenonearth dont be sad bro
i got tempd for a homework help thread also
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45888
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 22:11:31
September 20 2010 21:32 GMT
#248
my funniest ban was definitely my first account when i got banned for saying the WGT website had a terrible layout and coding, by klogon i believe
Brees on in
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 21:51:56
September 20 2010 21:37 GMT
#249
Man I was reading my old old old posts where I was a polarizing figure, mostly raging without using punctuations and frankly spelling anything correctly, some reason I felt quite sentimental to that rage era, almost feel like going back to that.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
September 20 2010 21:38 GMT
#250
On September 21 2010 06:18 Grettin wrote:
Seems like a decent thread for my question.

Why in the hell posts like these aren't instantly banned, but only warned?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154536#3

I don't want to whine, but cmon, get a grip with posts like these.


Actually, when I first saw that post, I thought a warning was appropriate. Low post count user, probably doesn't 'know the ropes', and we'd get as much mileage out of a warning than we would a ban TBH. In most cases, a warning is absolutely appropriate if it's the first offense.

In this case, this particular user has been warned about this exact same behavior before. I'm going to issue a ban. Thanks!
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
September 20 2010 21:44 GMT
#251
On September 21 2010 06:38 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 06:18 Grettin wrote:
Seems like a decent thread for my question.

Why in the hell posts like these aren't instantly banned, but only warned?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154536#3

I don't want to whine, but cmon, get a grip with posts like these.


Actually, when I first saw that post, I thought a warning was appropriate. Low post count user, probably doesn't 'know the ropes', and we'd get as much mileage out of a warning than we would a ban TBH. In most cases, a warning is absolutely appropriate if it's the first offense.

In this case, this particular user has been warned about this exact same behavior before. I'm going to issue a ban. Thanks!


Alrighty. Its good that at least one admin is checking people's 'background' in a cases like this.

Props to you!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
September 20 2010 21:46 GMT
#252
On September 21 2010 06:25 j4s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 04:00 Chill wrote:
An analogy:
a) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You don't respond and continue talking to your friends. He ends up looking stupid and everyone looks down on him.
b) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You respond in some equal fashion in line with his insult. People look up to you for defending yourself and he ends up looking stupid.
c) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You take a baseball bat out of your truck and chase him. You end up looking stupid and everyone looks down on you.


chill you may not know me but you are one of my favorite people across all the harsh internet wastelands.

give combat-ex a rematch in sc2??

No I already won! The score was settled!
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
September 20 2010 21:49 GMT
#253
On September 21 2010 06:44 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 06:38 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On September 21 2010 06:18 Grettin wrote:
Seems like a decent thread for my question.

Why in the hell posts like these aren't instantly banned, but only warned?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154536#3

I don't want to whine, but cmon, get a grip with posts like these.


Actually, when I first saw that post, I thought a warning was appropriate. Low post count user, probably doesn't 'know the ropes', and we'd get as much mileage out of a warning than we would a ban TBH. In most cases, a warning is absolutely appropriate if it's the first offense.

In this case, this particular user has been warned about this exact same behavior before. I'm going to issue a ban. Thanks!


Alrighty. Its good that at least one admin is checking people's 'background' in a cases like this.

Props to you!


Personally, and I know this is true for nearly everyone else on the moderation team as well, we typically assess the type of corrective action that is going to be taken based on a few factors:

1) A person's tenure, and prior contributions,
2) Past corrective action, including how recent as well as how relevant to the current infraction,
3) The severity of the current infraction
4) A person's posting history (ie, is this a trend, or a one-off from a normally good poster?)
5) The current flow of the thread, what caused them to act a certain way, etc.

All the while trying to make sure we're being fair and objective and not personally sucked in. Do we follow this 100% to the T? No, but we're pretty damn accurate with it, and mistakes are quickly pointed out and corrected. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better moderation team on the internet.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 20 2010 21:49 GMT
#254
On September 21 2010 06:46 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 06:25 j4s wrote:
On September 21 2010 04:00 Chill wrote:
An analogy:
a) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You don't respond and continue talking to your friends. He ends up looking stupid and everyone looks down on him.
b) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You respond in some equal fashion in line with his insult. People look up to you for defending yourself and he ends up looking stupid.
c) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You take a baseball bat out of your truck and chase him. You end up looking stupid and everyone looks down on you.


chill you may not know me but you are one of my favorite people across all the harsh internet wastelands.

give combat-ex a rematch in sc2??

No I already won! The score was settled!

Now i imagine chill has a corkboard with like I win on one side then they loose on the other side. And puts up a when he wins and the name of the person on the otherside.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
September 20 2010 21:55 GMT
#255
On September 21 2010 06:49 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 06:44 Grettin wrote:
On September 21 2010 06:38 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On September 21 2010 06:18 Grettin wrote:
Seems like a decent thread for my question.

Why in the hell posts like these aren't instantly banned, but only warned?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154536#3

I don't want to whine, but cmon, get a grip with posts like these.


Actually, when I first saw that post, I thought a warning was appropriate. Low post count user, probably doesn't 'know the ropes', and we'd get as much mileage out of a warning than we would a ban TBH. In most cases, a warning is absolutely appropriate if it's the first offense.

In this case, this particular user has been warned about this exact same behavior before. I'm going to issue a ban. Thanks!


Alrighty. Its good that at least one admin is checking people's 'background' in a cases like this.

Props to you!


Personally, and I know this is true for nearly everyone else on the moderation team as well, we typically assess the type of corrective action that is going to be taken based on a few factors:

1) A person's tenure, and prior contributions,
2) Past corrective action, including how recent as well as how relevant to the current infraction,
3) The severity of the current infraction
4) A person's posting history (ie, is this a trend, or a one-off from a normally good poster?)
5) The current flow of the thread, what caused them to act a certain way, etc.

All the while trying to make sure we're being fair and objective and not personally sucked in. Do we follow this 100% to the T? No, but we're pretty damn accurate with it, and mistakes are quickly pointed out and corrected. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better moderation team on the internet.


I'm glad to hear this, since i am enjoying this forum hella alot. Good work!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
September 20 2010 22:07 GMT
#256
ETT I am still very sad you never responded to my PM like 9 months ago about getting banned

Also why isn't there a show all posts feature of the automated ban list? That was useful for CTRL + Fing all my bans and laughing at the stupidity.
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 22:12:35
September 20 2010 22:10 GMT
#257
i kept this account trucking through some mean purges back in the day

banlings aint shit compared to rek

those where some scary times
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 20 2010 22:14 GMT
#258
On September 21 2010 07:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
ETT I am still very sad you never responded to my PM like 9 months ago about getting banned

Also why isn't there a show all posts feature of the automated ban list? That was useful for CTRL + Fing all my bans and laughing at the stupidity.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="RebirthOfLeGenD was just" "Automated Ban List" site:http://www.teamliquid.net/&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Getting good at search strings is quite useful
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 22:23:44
September 20 2010 22:20 GMT
#259
On September 18 2010 06:09 arb wrote:
After my first ban ive tried hard to not get banned again
its worked so far

though i deserved the first ban cause i called this dude a retarded fucking moron iirc


On September 18 2010 07:16 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 06:16 Pokebunny wrote:
I got banned for a meme in a friends blog, because he posted the same thing on my blog. He didn't get banned.

where friend = arb.

cool story bro

User was temp banned for this post.


Epic.

I learn how to behave in a forum here. Seriously.

EDIT: I couldnt resist sorry lol

On September 21 2010 05:51 heishe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 05:19 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On September 20 2010 22:36 heishe wrote:
my first ban I got was for "ruining a good thread". I was banned by kennigit, and I remember being really really upset about it. Like genuinely sad / angry that I was banned for my post. I don't exactly remember the post in question, but it was a thread about something and I posted something in a calm and mannered fashion which was actually on topic as far as I remember, but Ken disagreed with me and banned me for two weeks. Yes, not one, but two weeks. And that was my first ban I ever got. I was like really close to never ever visiting this forum again. That really upset me a lot. Not in a "omg these forum moderators are idiots" way, but more in a way that made me supersad and disappointed.


Huh?

It was two days:

On May 12 2010 13:19 TL.net Bot wrote:
heishe was just temp banned for 2 days by Kennigit.

That account was created on 2009-06-29 18:10:03 and had 17 posts.

The last page the Mod was looking at before this user was banned is here.

Reason: Ruining a good thread.


And your "well thought out" post was this:

On May 09 2010 06:04 heishe wrote:
boni is perfectly correct you BARBARS!


....... ?



I swear I think there are some severe memory deficiencies going on with some of the repeat offenders here. Which would actually explain (quite well too) why they're repeat offenders.


yes, I've already replied again a few posts above you in which I've stated that my memory was totally off.

@chill
I wasn't lying. That's how it was in my memory. As I said I'm probably thinking about another ban and connected those two in some way (I also overlooked the fact that it was 2 days, not 2 weeks when I checked my PMs [they're still all there]).


Oh, that changes everything

I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
September 20 2010 22:21 GMT
#260
On September 21 2010 07:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
ETT I am still very sad you never responded to my PM like 9 months ago about getting banned

Also why isn't there a show all posts feature of the automated ban list? That was useful for CTRL + Fing all my bans and laughing at the stupidity.

R1CH took it away because it was jamming the site down. He also took away our "View Post History" button because I was using it on 20,000+ post users and TL would stop loading for EVERYONE while I pressed it hahaha
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