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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 22 2010 02:18 GMT
#281
On September 22 2010 11:15 Kennigit wrote:
I got warned for telling people to bunker rush in a warcraft 3 thread.

Wha you can totally do that choose orc!
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
September 22 2010 02:21 GMT
#282
On September 18 2010 00:02 Murderotica wrote:
No user is ever really changed at the core by bans, they just either

a. realize that being able to post on TL is worth more than voicing their opinions/bm

or

b. find more tactical ways of trolling/bming/upsetting people.


Hehe, A is what happened to me, and B is what I try to do. Got temp banned for shitting up the HoN/DotA thread, because that was what it was, until about the 980th page. Other bans other than ones from the HoN/DotA thread are pretty irrelevant/dumb though.
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
September 22 2010 02:43 GMT
#283
I have learned to never disrespect brood war pros even when they do things that I view as retarded (I said some things about nal-ra in regards to his TV series being ended by his mandatory military service).
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
September 22 2010 02:45 GMT
#284
I was set straight my EvilTeletubby's ban when I made one of the most worthless blog posts ever, in which he told me he was 'confused' when he saw the quality of my posts and the whole article I had just written recently. I figured I should clean my act up to match the quality of my hard work and so...I have not achieved that yet but hey at least I'm not geting banned for making terrible blogs now
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 03:04:23
September 22 2010 03:00 GMT
#285
On September 22 2010 11:43 Vei wrote:
I have learned to never disrespect brood war pros even when they do things that I view as retarded (I said some things about nal-ra in regards to his TV series being ended by his mandatory military service).

You just don't get how you're suppose to operate
On April 27 2008 19:30 ChaosKnight wrote:
Xellos is perfect, he must have lifted his CC to gain some sort of advantage. Layla, on the other hand, fucked up.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=70353&currentpage=4#71
Anyone who watched the series should get this quote in a second.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
September 22 2010 06:20 GMT
#286
On September 22 2010 11:45 Monokeros wrote:
I was set straight my EvilTeletubby's ban when I made one of the most worthless blog posts ever, in which he told me he was 'confused' when he saw the quality of my posts and the whole article I had just written recently. I figured I should clean my act up to match the quality of my hard work and so...I have not achieved that yet but hey at least I'm not geting banned for making terrible blogs now



Ooooh yeah, I remember that...

On October 04 2009 16:50 TL.net Bot wrote:
Monokeros was just temp banned for 1 week by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2005-11-01 18:04:25 and had 1182 posts.

The last page the Mod was looking at before this user was banned is here.

Reason: You're so inconsistent. You have the ability to create excellent posts, but you seem content to ruin it with awful threads, and just have terrible and annoying posting habits. I can't quite put my finger on it, but you have the uncanny ability to be just really, really annoying.

I suggest...

1) Never using your caps lock key again, ever,
2) Forget about using the "Fixed" editted reply comment... yours are overused and horrible
3) Drop da thug life yo attitude. It's what makes old guys like me hate kids like you.


Been pretty solid since, can't really complain about the results.




On September 22 2010 11:15 Kennigit wrote:
I got warned for telling people to bunker rush in a warcraft 3 thread.


ROFL, your info page is hilarious. Just reinforces why Sonuvbob is the funniest guy on TL.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Neo7
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States922 Posts
September 22 2010 06:26 GMT
#287
If I can remember correctly, I've only had one topic closure way way back in the day. Since then I entered into a super lurker kind of mode and slowly made a few replies. After seeing others putting up bad OPs and a general idea of what a good OP is, I don't think I'll be making any soon (I could make a good OP, but the problem is that I've got nothing).

Still...reading some of those bans in the Automated Ban List makes me really cautious and intimidated by TL's mods.
It takes an idiot to do cool things.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 22 2010 07:44 GMT
#288
On September 22 2010 11:18 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2010 11:15 Kennigit wrote:
I got warned for telling people to bunker rush in a warcraft 3 thread.

Wha you can totally do that choose orc!

yes but that doesn't mean that it's a good strategy or was appropriate if you consider a context.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 22 2010 08:10 GMT
#289
On September 21 2010 07:20 oo_xerox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 06:09 arb wrote:
After my first ban ive tried hard to not get banned again
its worked so far

though i deserved the first ban cause i called this dude a retarded fucking moron iirc


Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 07:16 arb wrote:
On September 18 2010 06:16 Pokebunny wrote:
I got banned for a meme in a friends blog, because he posted the same thing on my blog. He didn't get banned.

where friend = arb.

cool story bro

User was temp banned for this post.


Epic.

I learn how to behave in a forum here. Seriously.

EDIT: I couldnt resist sorry lol

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 05:51 heishe wrote:
On September 21 2010 05:19 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On September 20 2010 22:36 heishe wrote:
my first ban I got was for "ruining a good thread". I was banned by kennigit, and I remember being really really upset about it. Like genuinely sad / angry that I was banned for my post. I don't exactly remember the post in question, but it was a thread about something and I posted something in a calm and mannered fashion which was actually on topic as far as I remember, but Ken disagreed with me and banned me for two weeks. Yes, not one, but two weeks. And that was my first ban I ever got. I was like really close to never ever visiting this forum again. That really upset me a lot. Not in a "omg these forum moderators are idiots" way, but more in a way that made me supersad and disappointed.


Huh?

It was two days:

On May 12 2010 13:19 TL.net Bot wrote:
heishe was just temp banned for 2 days by Kennigit.

That account was created on 2009-06-29 18:10:03 and had 17 posts.

The last page the Mod was looking at before this user was banned is here.

Reason: Ruining a good thread.


And your "well thought out" post was this:

On May 09 2010 06:04 heishe wrote:
boni is perfectly correct you BARBARS!


....... ?



I swear I think there are some severe memory deficiencies going on with some of the repeat offenders here. Which would actually explain (quite well too) why they're repeat offenders.


yes, I've already replied again a few posts above you in which I've stated that my memory was totally off.

@chill
I wasn't lying. That's how it was in my memory. As I said I'm probably thinking about another ban and connected those two in some way (I also overlooked the fact that it was 2 days, not 2 weeks when I checked my PMs [they're still all there]).


Oh, that changes everything


I dont believe anyone understands exactly how hard i tried to resist posting that
>_>
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 10:56:18
September 22 2010 10:55 GMT
#290
On September 22 2010 15:26 Neo7 wrote:
If I can remember correctly, I've only had one topic closure way way back in the day. Since then I entered into a super lurker kind of mode and slowly made a few replies. After seeing others putting up bad OPs and a general idea of what a good OP is, I don't think I'll be making any soon (I could make a good OP, but the problem is that I've got nothing).

Still...reading some of those bans in the Automated Ban List makes me really cautious and intimidated by TL's mods.

Welcome to the club, afraid of posting most of the times, I remake my post and preview it like 5 times before even thinking about hitting that post button. Mods on TL can be very very scary : (


On September 22 2010 11:15 Kennigit wrote:
I got warned for telling people to bunker rush in a warcraft 3 thread.

Was this intentional ?:D
Yes I am
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
September 22 2010 12:16 GMT
#291
I wonder which mod actually has the highest warn or ban vs time as mod.

I tend to have this feeling that some mods are just way too trigger happy compared to others.
bisu fanboy
Carefoot
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 12:59:38
September 22 2010 12:58 GMT
#292
Temp-Banning people has the same learning effect as sending a guy to jail for breaking into your car. Hes not going to learn a lesson, he'll learn to make homemade wine with orange rinds in a toilet and not to let you live next time he steals your car. So your just breeding a more careful troll, capable of infiltrating the most serious stickies and evading the most power hungry of moderators.

Just make their signature forced to say they are below the average intelligence quotient or are full of shit. Or both.
The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 14:01:49
September 22 2010 13:53 GMT
#293
On September 18 2010 09:44 SonuvBob wrote:
This is one of the main reasons for the Report feature. You can vent about bad posts without derailing the thread.


My temp ban ended like 5 minutes ago.

I guess I was changed enough to want to know where the report button is, because I sure don't see one.

Being able to direct mods towards some jackasses would help with not turning into Internet Man, with the superpower of Angry Posting at people who are (gasp) wrong.

EDIT:

On September 22 2010 21:58 Carefoot wrote:
Temp-Banning people has the same learning effect as sending a guy to jail for breaking into your car. Hes not going to learn a lesson, he'll learn to make homemade wine with orange rinds in a toilet and not to let you live next time he steals your car.


People tend to get angry on the internet, tempers flare, and most of this medium is filled with places that have far more lax moderation. TL is obviously different. Doesn't mean we're all malicious /b/tards looking to get a rise out of people. And I'd imagine the majority of people who steal car stereos don't escalate to cold-blooded murder.
whatsgrackalackin420
Meiya
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia1169 Posts
September 22 2010 13:59 GMT
#294
On September 22 2010 21:58 Carefoot wrote:
Temp-Banning people has the same learning effect as sending a guy to jail for breaking into your car. Hes not going to learn a lesson, he'll learn to make homemade wine with orange rinds in a toilet and not to let you live next time he steals your car. So your just breeding a more careful troll, capable of infiltrating the most serious stickies and evading the most power hungry of moderators.

Just make their signature forced to say they are below the average intelligence quotient or are full of shit. Or both.


The idea is to give them a taste of where they're heading if they don't sort their life out. It works a whole lot better than letting crappy posters keep being crappy. Constructive criticism is essential in the development of a good poster :3
Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 14:02:15
September 22 2010 14:01 GMT
#295
I believe i have learned after these stupid things i did. Two smurf accounts, not the best idea. Glad ive grown up.

Ban List Please was just banned by pangshai.

That account was created on 2010-05-11 07:23:10 and had 2 posts.

Reason: You were probably looking for this anyway.


Love Trollin Nubs was just banned by RaGe.

That account was created on 2010-06-04 22:51:21 and had 8 posts.

Reason: Previously banned user.


Hiicantpk was just banned by RaGe.

That account was created on 2009-03-21 07:54:02 and had 72 posts.

Reason: Making 2 alts after getting banned and banbaiting.


I have learned not to be a retard on the internet, and control my urges to troll people.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 14:06:15
September 22 2010 14:05 GMT
#296
Ive never been banned but I'm not sure if I've been warned or not, I think not. I have however gotten my posts deleted.. which might be worse than getting warned ... its like " your post was so terrible I had to delete it, a warning wasnt enough".

So much for a flawless record :C
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
September 22 2010 14:11 GMT
#297
On September 22 2010 23:05 Senx wrote:
Ive never been banned but I'm not sure if I've been warned or not, I think not. I have however gotten my posts deleted.. which might be worse than getting warned ... its like " your post was so terrible I had to delete it, a warning wasnt enough".

So much for a flawless record :C


You will get a PM if you get banned or warned.
bisu fanboy
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 02:59:02
September 28 2010 02:54 GMT
#298
I've never been banned without reason, and looking back at my old old posts I can say that I really did improve over time. I still get banned for doing stupid things and even though I always drill into my head "just don't say things like that", I still lose it when I read some particularly offending posts. The last two times I got banned sticks out a lot to me in this, as the earlier one I was banned after losing it when a poster who's name I can't particularly remember was arguing with me about something, and suddenly in the middle of it he said something like "oh, I didn't actually read your posts and I just say things sometime" and I imploded. The more recent one being me replying with an irritated "you're an idiot" to someone that tried to equate Nada switching to SC2 to be a worse betrayal than Savior fixing games, which is just ridiculous. I wish I could find these threads. I remember the first one was in a blog, and the other was in some thread. But! Regardless of what I am replying to, it doesn't change my own words, and so I know that my bans are justified. I have gotten away with saying things sometime when I shouldn't have.

I still am who I am, and I have strong opinions on some things with obvious bias, and I still do berate people, but I feel that I hold myself back tons now. I can't even count the number of times I have written out posts and just delete it all after thinking "this isn't important enough". I'm not a perfect poster at all but I can honestly say that I have improved over time the past few years. And you know, I kinda just like to read more than actively participate now. I suppose the culmination of my time on this forum and the various things that have occurred in my life since I have found this site is that the main theme of person is not whether he is right or wrong, but rather as to how he approaches an event. It is the authenticity that defines the person. There will always be some event that cracks me so I will get banned sometime or another in the future. But I can honestly say that I have learned a little each time. It doesn't matter if the opponent is an imbecile - I shouldn't become an imbecile myself.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 14:49:22
October 04 2010 21:03 GMT
#299
I set myself straight 2 years ago, when I stopped looking at TL through Starcraft 2 forum.
I did it by making this account and there wasn't much to purge in the first place - I only got warned once on the old one for posting "1st" and got 1 topic closed. Yeah, keeping my insane emo side under control was the most important thing to do.
Changing my name to something I've been actually using anywhere else was a handy side effect.





So, during GSL final I got banned for 2 days:
beetlelisk was just temp banned for 2 days by Liquid`Nazgul.

That account was created on 2008-07-30 06:06:49 and had 1346 posts.

Reason:
I am actually thinking Rainbow sold his match, if the stadium is packed then there may be big amount of money in bets.

This is just beyond ridiculous. Use common sense first before you make statements like this.

I don't think I even read "any further stupid fucking comments" part of red warning boesthius placed in the live report thread. The only impression I got was "oh great, no mercy for balance whiners".
I didn't understand that warning meant purge aimed against "write no matter what you feel, post it and pretty much forget about it" kind of posts that create environment allowing balance whine to happen in the first place.

And that was that kind of post, I wasn't even serious.

Hype really made me pumped, it's effects wore off at last completely during Sunday. The next day
Nevermind that 1,5 beer, Cool the FruitDealer FruitDominator! is a zerg that FUCKING FINALLY made concepts like burrowing, especially banes, and dropping units, especially banes! on top of his opponent's units happen. After so much hypocritical bashing about SC2 for not having sophisticated micro and not being APM intensive enough, one guy used his brain and then his steel (watermelon?) balls, to use something at least sort of APM intensive.

But this, this wasn't enough yet to make me write what got me banned.
The last nail to the coffin was Tastosis saying "(...) this placed is packed, there are even people who are sitting [somewhere] (...)". That made me think there were at least 10 000 people sitting there and rather even more >_<.
That gave me fake impression, proof that wasn't there, that SC2 isn't just big in Korea already, it is huge.
And the truth was
On October 02 2010 22:22 Waxangel wrote:
(note: Fomos reports 3500 showed up)

On October 02 2010 22:43 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 22:36 Pervect wrote:
On October 02 2010 22:26 Zozo wrote:
3500, holy crap!


Now we can only hope it hits 100,000 one day like 2005 ProLeague Finals or whenever that was.


impossible logistically unless they can manage to find an open space to fit that many people.
(the stadium they used today maxes at 7000).

O_o
That's not huge, that's ok, that's big but not huge [edit] even for game so young.
I don't think I need elaborate more about this aspect of this ban.

There is another though - what I wrote could be understood as balance whine. Now, I don't think it was but I want write more about this because this is also the reason why I wrote that.
I could be saying "hey why Rainbow wasn't doing any early pressure openings, even all ins, preferably with Reapers?". Anything that really makes whiners whine.
His openings were most probably the best he could choose, he was hoping FD would be preparing against this sort of thing. However he didn't do anything until the late game, he was even waiting until ultras were out. And he was doing it against zerg, zerg that has macro mechanic considered the strongest in the game? What the hell? This is nonsense, this is qualifiers or maybe ro64 one sided rape.

I say this even though I UTTERLY DESPISE whine, I even showed it few hours before finals
On October 02 2010 10:31 beetlelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 05:25 Chill wrote:
My vote makes me sad.

Hey you are giving many, many idiots a reason to whine!

and during TvT semifinal B
On September 30 2010 18:15 beetlelisk wrote:
Let the really better one win so once Cool dominates him in the finals all of the whiners get slapped in the face that much stronger.


Hype made me even think about making a blog proposing extended ban durations for balance whine if once Cool wins.
Hell, if this would be the only reason I got banned, that would make me happy. That would make me feel delighted it wasn't 1 week.
wwww
Misca
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands605 Posts
October 04 2010 21:08 GMT
#300
The banhammer here is actually used properly. People get banned for being BM or not following the rules. There is a WoW forum called elitistjerks.com and if you even dare think of making a post there that either includes a typo or a question without being able to bring theorycrafting up to a higher level you get a 1 day ban . It's horrible, but just I suppose.
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