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On September 18 2010 00:02 Murderotica wrote: No user is ever really changed at the core by bans, they just either
a. realize that being able to post on TL is worth more than voicing their opinions/bm
or
b. find more tactical ways of trolling/bming/upsetting people.
yeah and sometimes they fail to do b and get banned again for the 10th time
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On September 20 2010 10:41 FALAPARK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2010 10:29 Ojahh wrote:On September 20 2010 09:50 FALAPARK wrote: what i learned from bans is that TL MODS are very sensitive o.o ima get warned for this watch! I dont get you people, if you think you're post is probably gone get you banned/warned, then don't post it, whatever it is. I can slightly understand it if somebody has written a, in his mind, well argumented long text and thinks well it might piss people of, but I want this opinion out there, but only a few words to take a swing at the mods? its technically none of my business, but there is few more of these posts in this thread, and right now I fell the urge task you why you would do something like that, it boggles my mind. yea u are right, but u i like having fun, i take TL very siriously though. i dont really expect to get banned or warn, but i'd laugh if i do because i didnt offend anyone i just spoke my mind, and this is america right?
nudge, nudge, hint, hint, blink
This is their house.
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On September 20 2010 15:19 boesthius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2010 15:16 Melancholia wrote:On September 20 2010 09:50 FALAPARK wrote: what i learned from bans is that TL MODS are very sensitive o.o ima get warned for this watch!
User was temp banned for this post. See, now, I'm not sure if this was for insulting the mods, or just as a joke to mess with him. I'm very confused. naw it was just for being a martyr. we don't take too kindly to martyr's 'round these parts. fastest way to get banned is to say.
Watch imma get banned for this.
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Like they actually follow most of the commandments...they're more like guidelines.
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On September 20 2010 15:36 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2010 15:19 boesthius wrote:On September 20 2010 15:16 Melancholia wrote:On September 20 2010 09:50 FALAPARK wrote: what i learned from bans is that TL MODS are very sensitive o.o ima get warned for this watch!
User was temp banned for this post. See, now, I'm not sure if this was for insulting the mods, or just as a joke to mess with him. I'm very confused. naw it was just for being a martyr. we don't take too kindly to martyr's 'round these parts. fastest way to get banned is to say. Watch imma get banned for this. Yeah I can hardly imagine a post that would fly when prefaced by 'watch imma get banned for this'
You could be posting a final edit quality thing about how Reach is cool and still get banned.
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i always log on and get super excited when i see the little yellow NEW icon at top cause someone on tl.net sent me a pm yay! and then find out its tl.net bot telling me im a crappy poster.
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Baltimore, USA22250 Posts
On September 20 2010 09:10 HeavOnEarth wrote: Lawl. i got banned for not knowing homework threads are allowed. YET having previous homework threads with no warning AND having posted in seveeral homework threads AFTER my temp ban was over, and they weren't closed or anything. So still pissed off about that.
Actually, you had created several homework threads that were closed BEFORE you were banned.
And if something remained open, it could be that it was different than yours and not just a generic homework help thread, or that it was missed. Don't go all "well why can HE get away with it!" on us, you're not fucking 12 (I hope).
Not to mention you've had a few other warnings/bans as well. Usually our trigger fingers are a bit itchier on people with a bad record.
So, yeah. Yours was pretty justified whether you believe so or not.
On September 18 2010 03:11 mOnion wrote: ETT banned me twice, once for a week and the other was for 3 months I think.
been good ever since ^_^
It was 30 days, plus we spoke on iccup like right after I think. And yeah, your posting improved a LOT after that I think (although you still managed to get a couple warnings ^^)
On September 18 2010 03:52 WiljushkA wrote: dunno if it set me straight, but i learned that some people have no idea what's 4chan, and sometimes wont tell you what post they banned you for.
Sometimes we'll say "4chan" as the ban reason, but we're really refering to overused/irritating/annoying memes (which usually gain popularity on 4chan). That's what happened in your case.
On September 18 2010 06:22 CheeseGrater wrote: Or the mod is biased and in a bad mood and they never deserved the temp ban in the first place
Yeah, because you DEFINITELY weren't out of line after a mod simply closed your thread:
----------------------------------------- Original Message: You really had to close the thread about the deaf man in the mall? This video should be as public as possible, you are not doing anything to help the situation by lowering the amount of people that see it. Just because people are having a heated discussion is no reason to close a thread. Stop abusing your mod powers and get a clue. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Ending a repeal for a thread-closure with an insult is a very effective tactic. I will certainly reconsider closing that garbage thread. Thanks for your feedback. ----------------------------------------- Garbage thread? Just because people were correcting a bigot making fun of the handicapped in the comments? You deserve to be insulted because its a terrible decision. Have fun being a dick mod in the future.
As usual, this ban was 100% warranted/justified. Get off the high horse. IF a ban is made that isn't justified, other mods/admins will generally jump on it immediately, the person will be unbanned, and an apology made. This happens very rarely because, to be honest, most bans are spot-on.
On September 18 2010 08:42 tomatriedes wrote: I wish I could see my mod notes. Somehow I get the feeling that one or two mods must have come really close to (at least) temp-banning me at some point. ;;
You're clean, no notes. 
On September 20 2010 15:52 Melancholia wrote:Like they actually follow most of the commandments...they're more like guidelines.
Guidelines you should definitely heed.
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Hey ETT, any notes on me?
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I know I got a warning for posting an image macro... R1CH does have an EXCELLENT system to actually detect all of those... but what I want to ask; why do some posts with macros get away with them? I've seen a couple over the past month that did not have an auto-warn.
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On September 20 2010 16:01 Coagulation wrote: i always log on and get super excited when i see the little yellow NEW icon at top cause someone on tl.net sent me a pm yay! and then find out its tl.net bot telling me im a crappy poster.
Yeah that happened to me like three times in 4 days..
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On September 18 2010 07:16 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2010 06:16 Pokebunny wrote:I got banned for a meme in a friends blog, because he posted the same thing on my blog. He didn't get banned.  where friend = arb. cool story bro User was temp banned for this post.
Wanted to bring this post back up, I laughed so hard.
I've never been banned from a forum but I did get kicked from chat during Day9's launch party. The mod that kicked me has not been a mod since, so I think my beef with him was justified. But at any rate, I try to play nice in all of the threads in which I feel confident enough to post. Any time I feel the need to post a rebuttal, I really think about what I'll say. Then I tend to post Smilies to soften the blow. This behavior travels with me to all forums I use.
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Banning promotes sychophantic behaviour amongst those who have never been, and never wish to be banned (read: teachers pet)
while those of us with the dubious distinction of being banned are either A: noobish B: Have noobish opinions C: Have good opinions that are expressed in a noobish manner D: All of the above (is that possible?)
But, that said, we, also hold a place in the mod's hearts since collectivley, we are that 'rebellious child' which the teacher secretly admires, and we post noobishly sometimes to dilute the monotony of the sycophants!!
Yes this is a biased opinion Yes I HAVE been temp banned
Side note: being a fairly new poster, and experienced lurker, why do i see so many ppl being ressurected from permabans?
EDIT: Glaring example of sychophantic behaviour mentioned above http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154429
I being a cynic personally find it slightly insincere, or if sincere then very very sickly
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sometimes I got banned for really stupid reasons I think. I don't remember exactly. But I got banned a couple of times for one post where I used too many foul words or for QQing too much. What upset me most about that was that I was basically banned when I had one big post where I QQed a lot, but most of my other posts are usually pretty large and I try to contribute a lot and actually bring arguments tot he table instead of just baseless QQing, whereas others just have no idea how discussion works and just hammer you down with their silly points and logical fallacies and endless QQing, yet none of them get banned.
my first ban I got was for "ruining a good thread". I was banned by kennigit, and I remember being really really upset about it. Like genuinely sad / angry that I was banned for my post. I don't exactly remember the post in question, but it was a thread about something and I posted something in a calm and mannered fashion which was actually on topic as far as I remember, but Ken disagreed with me and banned me for two weeks. Yes, not one, but two weeks. And that was my first ban I ever got. I was like really close to never ever visiting this forum again. That really upset me a lot. Not in a "omg these forum moderators are idiots" way, but more in a way that made me supersad and disappointed.
in short, sometimes I feel like being honest and not idiotic/hypocritical like a lot of people here can really bite you in the ass. you can get banned for simply stating your honest opinion, even if you don't flame others etc. in the progress and try to argue reasonably.
I also got banned for literally calling someone a "fucking idiot" or something like that, and I totally understand that since I asked for the ban in the post (but that guy deserved it, and I think I never did it again after that). But then sometimes I really don't understand why I was banned instead of warned. Or when I was banned not for one or two days, no, like a week or two. That just really hurts. Like, it doesn't make you angry or something, it's just like a mod is trying to tell me: "Please get the fuck out of our forums, we don't like you, we don't want you here". Especially when you get banned for a post which intended no harm.
edit: oops I forgot a part of my post.
So in terms of "getting set straight". Well, I think more active about my choice of words right now and also I have some occasions where I write some lengthy post, like at least 1000 words+, then read through it and I'm like "better not post that, some moderator might read something into my post which I didn't intend" and just delete the post and leave it at that. That's not exaggerating or something, but sometimes I really get worried that I'm going to be banned again lol.
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Actually, you had created several homework threads that were closed BEFORE you were banned.
And if something remained open, it could be that it was different than yours and not just a generic homework help thread, or that it was missed. Don't go all "well why can HE get away with it!" on us, you're not fucking 12 (I hope).
Not to mention you've had a few other warnings/bans as well. Usually our trigger fingers are a bit itchier on people with a bad record.
So, yeah. Yours was pretty justified whether you believe so or not.
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=87622 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=81080 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=79163 Previous warnings about other things 0 bans.
Im not dropping this until at least one mod takes the time and effort to actually look into my history. Look-
You've closed ONE thread of mine (which wasn't homework), the one about programming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94180 which i assumed was for my behavior in the thread, which is understandable and i agree with that - my behavior was bad. you never said you closed it because it was a "homework thread", which it wasn't. and quote Also, let it be known, some moderater changed the thread to "Homework thread" to spite me, it was never a homework assignment.
Furthermore, this was the thread i got banned for, the only thread that was closed and im supposedly supposed to know they aren't allowed.
And if something remained open, it could be that it was different than yours and not just a generic homework help thread, or that it was missed. Don't go all "well why can HE get away with it!" on us, you're not fucking 12 (I hope).
No? I can list dozens of homework help threads that mods have POSTED in that weren't closed. How the fuck am i supposed to know. (if u want me to literally spend hours lookin them all up I don't mind at all.)
You have been temp banned for 2 weeks by Hot_Bid.
Reason: 3800+ posts and you still copy/paste a homework thread. You've made several homework threads before, and we've closed them all. Hopefully you learn in these two weeks not to do this again. Next time it's 30 days.
Do not attempt to circumvent this ban by making a new account, or your ban duration will be increased.
My actual ban warning No, i NEVER knew that homework threads were not allowed. IF you had banned me for being a martyr or being BM in the last thread, sure i dont't care at all, but you(mods) specifically banned me for something i honestly didn't know, and how was i expected to know.
Don't go all "well why can HE get away with it!" on us, you're not fucking 12 (I hope).
you missed my point ENTIRELY. i used it as an example of why i didn't know homework threads weren't allowed.
+ Show Spoiler [my reply over a year ago] +Original Message: HeavOnEarth was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Hot_Bid. That account was created on 2008-03-03 15:36:23 and had 3830 posts. Reason: 3800+ posts and you still copy/paste a homework thread. You've made several homework threads before, and we've closed them all. Hopefully you learn in these two weeks not to do this again. Next time it's 30 days. No? All of my homework threads thus far have never been closed, so i don't know where your several homework threads came from to be honest. (these are from my blogs) http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=79163http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=81080http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=87622However, Manifesto told me (before you promptly banned me) , no more homework threads, which i pm'd him back, Ok , i didn't know homework threads weren't allowed and that was the end of that. You've closed ONE thread of mine (which wasn't homework), the one about programming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94180which i assumed was for my behavior in the thread, which is understandable and i agree with that - my behavior was bad. you never said you closed it because it was a "homework thread", which it wasn't. and quote Also, let it be known, some moderater changed the thread to "Homework thread" to spite me, it was never a homework assignment. You have been temp banned for 2 weeks by Hot_Bid. Reason: I know you were warned, but your behavior in that thread is too bad for me to ignore. The previous ban you gave me, says absolutely nothing about homework, so yes, excuse me for not knowing that homework threads aren't allowed. I mean i literally post and help people from dozens of homework threads, check my posting history of you want or u can simply just type in "homework" in the sesarch function and see that nearly all of them are still open. Did i anger you in the past or something? I know im on shaky ground with Chill and a Rage, but i doubt i ever said anything to you, and if i did i apologize- it wasn't intentional. So to sum it up, i think a 2 week ban is a bit much, and hopefully i've convinced you i honestly- did not know homework threads were not allowed- as i've seen several open, and all of my homework threads thus far have never been closed. Also, thanks for reducing the ban, although i don't think it does any good, this mafia game was very few people and will probably end shortly, but i do appeiciate the sentiment. my reply to hot_bid which he ignored, skimmed over or didn't care about.
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I dont even know how long its been(2 years?) since that ban but im still FURIOUS over it, and i never knew until i posted in this thread that i was still steaming over it. That alone might tell you something about me @ rage Fuck you @ chill Thanks for your understanding of me throughout the years i've posted. Even though you probably hated me as a poster you always acted objectively. I can completely understand you taking your friends side (rage) in the thread i got banned and to be honest i've always thought of you as somewhat of an internet father figure. @ hot_bid, the guy who banned me Im not sure why you didn't look this over thoroughly, but it was just i held such high standards of you as a poster/moderator , quite frankly im envious of you as a person, so it was to my huge disappointment/confusion that you didn't see or even attempt to see any of my points.
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United States22883 Posts
I had completely forgotten who you are until now. You probably shouldn't have included that for everyone to see.
EDIT: Oh, no wonder you got so high without exposing your crap elsewhere. LoL kid.
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Calgary25963 Posts
On September 20 2010 23:33 HeavOnEarth wrote: @ chill Thanks for your understanding of me throughout the years i've posted. Even though you probably hated me as a poster you always acted objectively. I can completely understand you taking your friends side (rage) in the thread i got banned and to be honest i've always thought of you as somewhat of an internet father figure. All of Team Liquid are my children. Except Shauni. And micronesia is only a step child.
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Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 20 2010 23:33 HeavOnEarth wrote: I dont even know how long its been(2 years?) since that ban but im still FURIOUS over it, and i never knew until i posted in this thread that i was still steaming over it. That alone might tell you something about me @ rage Fuck you @ chill Thanks for your understanding of me throughout the years i've posted. Even though you probably hated me as a poster you always acted objectively. I can completely understand you taking your friends side (rage) in the thread i got banned and to be honest i've always thought of you as somewhat of an internet father figure. @ hot_bid, the guy who banned me Im not sure why you didn't look this over thoroughly, but it was just i held such high standards of you as a poster/moderator , quite frankly im envious of you as a person, so it was to my huge disappointment/confusion that you didn't see or even attempt to see any of my points. So what you are saying is that you are in fact 12?
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FuDDx
United States5007 Posts
I wonder what my mod notes are? I guess they would be notes of mine if I knew... Ive never been banned(please do not start now) as to how close Ive come, No clue there at all. I do not post so much as Ive been here 8 years in a few weeks OO 8 years!!!
This IS the best community ever!!
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I got ban for making Fantasy TL group "big penis owners", and I think it was retarded as this is a medical and not pejorative term, and I will not remake that group, even if the fact remains unquestioned that if I had remade it I would have still belonged.
I used to be dickhead messing around on forums, used to be a mod too, think this changed coz of age, not coz of amount of bans I got/given. I just can't put up with argueing with people over the internet anymore.
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