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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
June 20 2010 18:03 GMT
#1201
On June 20 2010 18:48 Stormer wrote:
If you want to bulk up you should be going with full fat milk. GOMAD supposedly works wonders when you want to gain weight.


Yeah it does...i put on ~10 pounds in ~6 weeks by slamming 3/4 to a gallon of 2% milk a day.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 20 2010 20:47 GMT
#1202
Oh yeah, FULL fat GOMAD is the way to go. It's healthier too.

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v64/n6/abs/ejcn201045a.html
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/dairy-for-children-extends-life.html
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/04/full-fat-dairy-for-cardiovascular.html

Although raw milk would probably be the healthiest... but there's regulations on that heh so most people can't get any unless they live near farms.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Finance
Profile Joined September 2009
United States15 Posts
June 20 2010 22:17 GMT
#1203
On June 20 2010 23:04 unknown.sam wrote:
if you can't hit the gym you should try getting a pair of dumbbells. you can do a ton of exercises (upper and lower body) at home just with dumbbells alone. it's not ideal but it's something you can do once the pushups and situps become easy/boring.

but first of all, what do you hope to achieve by working out? strength? endurance? general fitness? once that's been addressed i'm sure the mainstays here can figure out a decent routine that you could follow.


Thanks for the response. The difficult part of this relocation has been that before the move I had been hitting the gym a minimum of 2-3 times a week. So I can't help but feel that I am regressing and losing bulk/strength. The push-ups have become relatively easy quickly, because like I mentioned I was some-what of a gym rat before coming to Cairo. But with variations I can still feel a burn, however I feel like there are limitations to the push-up as far as developing a larger chest (I know this may be incorrect).

As far as what I am trying to achieve, definitely just general fitness and being healthy overall. But to be completely honest, aesthetics may be at the top of the list for right now . I will definitely pick up a pair of DBs next time I am out. Regarding that, I am not sure which weight I should purchase... Ones that I would curl with, triceps extensions, or something to hold while I do squats? What do u think? Thanks again for the help. If there is any other info you need, def let me know.


blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-21 00:42:19
June 20 2010 23:41 GMT
#1204
Name: Hersh V.
Age: 17 || Height: 5'10" || Weight: 138 lbs
Starting Date: June 22, 2010 || Goal Date: Early September 2010
Training goals -- be able to have a lot of flexibility/stretch far, be able to hold my body weight on my arms
Misc goals -- be able to do some power-moves in break-dancing (windmills, flare), basic freezes, basic flips, and handstands.

edit: im a dragoon now! its so cute! :D
2nd edit: completed an unfinished sentence =_=
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 21 2010 02:38 GMT
#1205
On June 21 2010 07:17 Finance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2010 23:04 unknown.sam wrote:
if you can't hit the gym you should try getting a pair of dumbbells. you can do a ton of exercises (upper and lower body) at home just with dumbbells alone. it's not ideal but it's something you can do once the pushups and situps become easy/boring.

but first of all, what do you hope to achieve by working out? strength? endurance? general fitness? once that's been addressed i'm sure the mainstays here can figure out a decent routine that you could follow.


Thanks for the response. The difficult part of this relocation has been that before the move I had been hitting the gym a minimum of 2-3 times a week. So I can't help but feel that I am regressing and losing bulk/strength. The push-ups have become relatively easy quickly, because like I mentioned I was some-what of a gym rat before coming to Cairo. But with variations I can still feel a burn, however I feel like there are limitations to the push-up as far as developing a larger chest (I know this may be incorrect).

As far as what I am trying to achieve, definitely just general fitness and being healthy overall. But to be completely honest, aesthetics may be at the top of the list for right now . I will definitely pick up a pair of DBs next time I am out. Regarding that, I am not sure which weight I should purchase... Ones that I would curl with, triceps extensions, or something to hold while I do squats? What do u think? Thanks again for the help. If there is any other info you need, def let me know.


Yoooo.....

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-training
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
matthewfoulkes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom246 Posts
June 21 2010 03:24 GMT
#1206
On June 20 2010 19:06 kainzero wrote:
whenever I do them, my ass hurts like a mofo. I love it.





.... i envy that you love this feeling.
Lies? I Dont Tell lies! Thats no lie!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
June 21 2010 04:14 GMT
#1207
On June 20 2010 23:39 unknown.sam wrote:
you might want to try dips instead and see how that feels. i've read that dips are a great way of maintaining bench strength if you have a shoulder injury, which is something the bench press aggravates but the dips don't.

Well, for now, BB bench aggravates something in my back/shoulder, but DB bench is fine. I don't really get it, but whatever...?
On June 21 2010 02:29 eshlow wrote:
kainzero:

what's the shoulder problem?

I have no idea. I went to my doctor who said everything was fine. The masseuse said that there was something wrong though. I'm pretty sure something in my back/shoulder is weak, upper traps, rhomboids, or maybe it's actually the serratus anterior, but I'm hoping that it goes away after training with pushups and chinups.

I can only describe it as a pinching feeling in my left shoulder blade when I unrack the BB from the bench.

On June 21 2010 12:24 matthewfoulkes wrote:
.... i envy that you love this feeling.

It's a mental thing. Tell yourself you enjoy it, the feeling of getting your ass kicked, and sooner or later you'll enjoy it.

Speaking of which, I woke up today and I was just dead. I think this is what it feels like to overtrain, time to move basketball and sprints to tomorrow.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
June 21 2010 05:09 GMT
#1208
Haha yeah i woke up today and my shoulders hips legs back were all fucking dead.

Eshlow/travis/other bodyweight peoples: How do you motivate yourself to continue, or at least begin progessions? When i go to the gym i have set numbers like weights sets reps which i know that i'm going to do and i get pumped up and i bang em out. I've tried a couple sets of the first step in the planche progression and i just get bored and usually dont do it again the next day.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
June 21 2010 07:21 GMT
#1209
alright this is me posting here i'm sucking it up and doing it. fuck it.

mOnion
Ht: 5'10''
Wt: 120
Starting Date: today?

Goal: get to 150 - 160

been trying to just gourge on protein, but that's not enough. not working out cuz i'm a lazy fuck, but ima go to Gold's tomorrow and get a membership and I'll start then.

sigh X_X
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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
June 21 2010 07:22 GMT
#1210
On June 21 2010 02:24 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2010 20:00 Finance wrote:
Hello everyone,

I'd like to start this comment out by stating how great this thread has been and how much it has helped me get back into shape and I'm sure it has helped countless others. I recently have been relocated to Cairo, Egypt for work and although it is a relatively modern society the access to a local gym is very limited and by that I mean nearly impossible. Thus, I'll have to resort to working-out in my home. I know there are many knowledgeable people following this thread and was hoping to get some insightful comments on how I can maximize my time while working out at home. I have done some research, found variations of push-ups, sit-ups, etc. But thought it would be nice to get input from the tl community. Appreciate your responses. Thanks in advance.


This may help you if you want to continue training strength:

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-training


I know I haven't posted in this thread in a really long time (and am probably forgotten) but thanks for the link!
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-21 07:27:51
June 21 2010 07:26 GMT
#1211
nvm i suck
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
June 21 2010 09:22 GMT
#1212
I started the Practical Programming Novice Program version of Starting Strength today. Its core lifts are squats, bench presses, presses, and deadlifts, while its assistance work is pull-ups and chin-ups. I originally wanted to do Madcow's 5x5, but after testing my 5RMs, I realized that I would be ultimately robbing myself of progress that I could be making on Rippetoe's. I am also starting and moving up a bit conservatively, with 15% taken off of my 5RMs, and only 2.5 kilo (5.4 pound) increases for my squats, benches, and presses. I have learned over time that weight lifting is not a sprint, but a marathon.

Plus, I'm still cutting (4.5% BF to go), and I want to make sure that I am not demanding something that I'm not giving my body the fuel to accomplish. While I am carb cycling, meaning that on Mondays and Fridays I get 3000 calories and 330 grams of carbohydrates (plenty to work with), no carb and low carb recovery periods will not be so easy.

Well, about a dozen hours of planning went into my plan (with Excel spreadsheets and research galore), so hopefully it will turn out well. My gym gave me a fit test today, and my current stats are as follows:

Height: 190 cm (6'3)
Weight: 89 kilograms (198 pounds)
Body fat percentage: 14.5%
Gunz: 16"
Waist: 32"
Chest: 42"
Thighs: 23"

I'll update again later.
Yesul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands50 Posts
June 21 2010 10:25 GMT
#1213
Age: 23
Height: 185 cm
Weight: 101.5 kg

Starting Date: 21-06-2010 || Goal Date: 01-10-2010

Weight goals:
95 kg

Training goals: lift 70 kgs 15 times in a row, 3 times with 5 minute breaks between

Nutrition goals: less bread / pasta, more fruit & vegetables

Misc goals:
- No more binging. I have a habit of eating decently all day long then when I am about to go to bed eat like 4 sandwiches or other stuff, I think this is the main problem I have with my weight (could be wrong tho).

- Drink more water, like 1 litre a day. I drink no water at all right now.

- Find a reliable partner to do the cycling part with

- Get into the habit of jogging to the friend I BP at (roughly 5 km) instead of cycling

Program:
- Go to a friend and BP 2 times a week, im doing decent at 60kg right now.
- Go cycling one time a week for at least 2 hours.
- Cycle to bus station every day I need to work, it’s 5km (3-4 days a week)
- Drink 3 bottles of water of 33cl a day.
- Monitor my eating patterns
- Try to drink water instead of binge before I go to bed.


I think that losing weight and gaining muscle is achievable since I am currently obese according to the BMI index.

The reason I started right now is because I just finished my school and have free time right now, instead of internship which takes like 50 hrs a week lol.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
June 21 2010 13:11 GMT
#1214
Try 4 litres a day
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4529 Posts
June 21 2010 13:14 GMT
#1215
as much water as you can take in, basically :p
Team Liquid
Yesul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands50 Posts
June 21 2010 13:34 GMT
#1216
On June 21 2010 22:14 ret wrote:
as much water as you can take in, basically :p


I'll try to take in more

Sidenote: I just cleaned my bedroom of everything eatable. I removed like 2 bars of chocolate, bag of candy, more chocolate stuff and a bottle of cola. And went cycling for 2 hours :p

Let's hope i have the strength to keep it up!
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4529 Posts
June 21 2010 14:09 GMT
#1217
If all that stuff was still 'there' and you managed to not eat it all at once, I dont think you'll have too much trouble

good luck
Team Liquid
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-21 16:36:59
June 21 2010 16:01 GMT
#1218
On June 21 2010 14:09 decafchicken wrote:
Haha yeah i woke up today and my shoulders hips legs back were all fucking dead.

Eshlow/travis/other bodyweight peoples: How do you motivate yourself to continue, or at least begin progessions? When i go to the gym i have set numbers like weights sets reps which i know that i'm going to do and i get pumped up and i bang em out. I've tried a couple sets of the first step in the planche progression and i just get bored and usually dont do it again the next day.


Well after long enough I don't have to motivate myself anymore because my body simply wants to do it. But for me it's a struggle with my psyche to put max effort in. I can compare results day to day, and every day I am looking for any sort of improvement in my holds and if I feel/observe any I consider it a victory. With 3 sets of 1 arm chin work, planche work, FL work, manna work - I generally have some sort of small gain that leaves me feeling victorious.

It's important to have your routine well programmed when you are first starting, just like with weight training. You need to know what your goals are. And when you first start the isometrics it's a little less intense than later on, it's almost more like prep work. But when you get to later holds it is a more direct challenge, more of a struggle to hold form each time. The farther you advance the more rewarding it will feel.
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
June 21 2010 20:31 GMT
#1219
About time to get some structure on something like this

Harry Lewis
Age: 20 || Height: 5'10 || Weight: 130lbs
Starting Date: 21 June '10 || Goal Date: None but will leave an update each month to monitor my progress
Weight goals -- Would be happy to gain a stone or two but not in any particular time line
Training goals -- To get a regular routine about 3 nights a week doings chest, ab, bicep ,tricep, shoulder and lat exercises
Nutrition goals -- Essentially to up my calorie intake to gain more weight but keep it as lean as possible to gain some muscle mass as well
Misc goals -- Drink (alittle) less and try to get a regular sleeping pattern
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
June 22 2010 01:39 GMT
#1220
Totally revamped my powercleaning form...so far i've basically just been getting it almost chest high then doing a 1/4 squat to get it up like this: + Show Spoiler +
. Today i started light at 135 and did sets of 3 going up 10-20 pounds with this form: + Show Spoiler +
Got up to about 205 before i couldn't do it anymore, where as i can get up to ~255 or so with my previous form. Basically i think i just have a shitty front squat so i want to work on that a lot! but i also squatted like 15-30 min before hand so that may have also hurt me.
Squat workout today went 10x210 8x310 6x330 4x355 2x380 1x405. Was by myself so i'm not 100% on my form but it felt pretty good and while it was difficult at 405 there was never any doubt i wouldn't get it up.
My final squat workout in the progression is 10x210 then something like 5x275 2x315 1x360 1x385 and then 1x415-430. Should i do 415 then 430 or just go for the 430?
My incline bench workout was depressing, took me like 3 sets to finish my final set of 8 My incline is 235 vs my bench at 275, is that fairly normal?
Also, got my chalk in! was great when i used it for cleans and pull ups, i'll test it out on deads on wednesday
Final question, (eshlow?) how often is it alright for me to throw back a ground sirloin burger? I get stacks of 18 of them from costco, just want to make sure that i'm not eating too much red meat (such a thing?)

/end rambling
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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