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On June 15 2010 17:21 Slithe wrote:
What kind of thumb injury are we looking at here? Does it still give you problems if you're doing a pulling motion with your hand (i.e. pull ups)? The bench might be questionable, but I think you'll probably be fine with the squat, deadlift, and pull ups.
Another alternative for upper body exercises if you can't do the bench is the planche progressions. I believe it's been mentioned multiple times before on this thread.
I broke (tore?) the tendon in my right thumb. Specifically right at the knuckle. Basically I can't thumbs up at the moment t.t. At the moment, it's in a little splint keeping it hyper extended at all times. Functionally gripping is fine, though it's a bit off. I grip more with the other fingers and try and minimize the amount of pressure on the thumb. I.e. Dumbell curls cause no problems, but I've had some issues with doing a peck fly with dumbells.
Squats have been perfectly fine. Dips have been alright.
Think I will try those planche progressions and report back how that all works out. Thanks again guys.
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Alright, so i've been getting a little overweight. I went from 93kg (at 197cm) to 97kg. Needless to say i need to lose weight. I've been kind of neglecting my cardio lately, only running a mile or two every week, and have been mostly focusing on weight lifting because it's easier.
So i plan on: Getting up to 3 or 4 miles per week
Eating less, and trying to get down to 93kg again.
Wish me luck TL.
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animal fat is amazing lol
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On June 15 2010 17:47 Robinsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 10:50 unknown.sam wrote:On June 14 2010 05:31 decafchicken wrote:No offense, but i would probably scrap that whole thing. And you should probably go 4 times a week instead of 6. Stick to the core lifts, squats, dead lifts,bench, and then pull ups for back. Use freeweights where possible instead of machines. You have a lot of stuff thrown in that you dont need and in the wrong order. Try a routine like 5x5 http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/and for protein, make sure you're getting 1-1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight. I usually have a whey protein shake within 30 minutes of working out. second this. decaf basically has everything down. altho i would try out SS instead of stronglifts. a weightlifter friend of mind said the 5x5 was a good program but didn't seem the best for novice/beginners. so yeah i'm just being biased here  Well it all depends on what kinds of muscles you want to build. If you want those disgusting weightlifter muscles (short and bulky) you should go for heavier/fewer repetionts while if you want a nice body (in my opinion ofcourse) you should go for lighter training with more repetitions. My workout mainly consists of running and some excercises without and some with light weights. Again, decide what you want to achive with the training - then set up the program for getting there.
Stop posting. You're reciting oprah pop-fitness myths. If anything, Myofibrilliar muscular tissue will appear much smaller than sarcoplasmic tissue normally associated with high reps. Why do you think powerlifters and olympic lifters, who train in low rep ranges, look much less bulky and muscular than bodybuilders despite being stronger? That doesn't matter for a novice trainee anyway as they'll experience both types of hypertrophy but will also make much faster strength gains using low rep ranges. I think this has been discussed tons of times in the thread already.
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On June 16 2010 01:19 travis wrote:
Eshlow, I have a question about Dorsal Pushups. I've seen them mentioned on gymnasticbodies multiple times. now with dorsal pushups you're supposed to turn your hands inwards as far as you can, with the goal being getting your hands pointing directly backwards. now, unsurprisingly, I can't go that far. my question is, how do I develop the sort of flexibility that would allow me to do that.
Stretch 'em everyday.
The thing about the wrist pushups is that if you're having problems you can start from your knees (no shame in that) or start by doing them against the wall.
Once you hit the limit ofyour flexibility you're supposed to use your extensors to "pop" yourself back up to the fist on the ground position.
It should slowly stretch them out over time if you incoporate them in your routine in the beginning/end for a couple sets of 10-15.
Or you can straight up stretch them but that tends to make them sore from what I've seen.
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Anyone have any recommendations for weight lifting gloves? I just started lifting with a friend and he doesn't use any and his hands have some pretty nasty calluses on them. I definitely would like to prevent that as much as possible.
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On June 17 2010 12:07 Bosu wrote:
Anyone have any recommendations for weight lifting gloves? I just started lifting with a friend and he doesn't use any and his hands have some pretty nasty calluses on them. I definitely would like to prevent that as much as possible.
You dont wear weightlifting gloves, just get a callus remover.
http://beautymarts.com/images/NAL/NALJ60B/NALJ60B.JPG
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On June 17 2010 12:07 Bosu wrote:
Anyone have any recommendations for weight lifting gloves? I just started lifting with a friend and he doesn't use any and his hands have some pretty nasty calluses on them. I definitely would like to prevent that as much as possible.
My first question is: why do you care about calluses? they're your bodies natural defense mechanism against repeated skin abrasion.
My second question is: do you not have calluses from your everyday life anyway?
Any pair of gloves will work but make sure they aren't really slippery. Seriously though, the calluses you get are generally pretty big from lifts where you have a bar exerting pressure on your hand: bench press etc, but lat pulldowns are the worst. They will be really big right after you lift, but normally get smaller after a few hours.
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Uh. Girls don't like calluses. Pretty good reason not to have them. And no I really don't have any calluses. Maybe two areas on my hands are very slightly callused.
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Andy / Roadkill
Age: 19 || Height: 6'2 || Weight: 170 pounds
Starting Date: 4/1/10 || Goal Date: 8/16/10
Weight goals -- gain 10 pounds
Training goals -- be able to bench my own weight
Nutrition goals -- eat a lot of protein and get in good shape
Misc goals -- bench more than my buddy at school
on a serious note, I'm considering steroids, from what I hear, theyre not as bad as what the public is told I saw a documentary on them and it looks like a possible experiment... thoughts?
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http://stronglifts.com/why-you-shouldnt-use-lifting-gloves/
"Gloves are used by serious lifters only in the event of a skin injury to the palm of the hand that a glove would allow to be trained around. Under no other circumstances do I want to see "weightlifting" gloves on anybody, not even a maxillofacial surgeon or a church organist. Not even a lawyer. Gloves add a layer of unstable material between the bar and the hand, destabalize the grip, prevent necessary callus formation, and actually make gripping harder due to the effective increase in diameter of the bar being held. Fat bars are used for this reason to work the grip, but gloves are not.
Gloves are annoying. Inexperienced, non-serious people think they are supposed to wear them because they see them in the fitness magazines. Cindy Crawford wears them. Richard Simmons wears them. I'm sorry, I just can't talk about this anymore."
"If you insist on wearing weightlifting gloves, make sure they match your purse."
- Mark Rippetoe
http://www.crossfitpurgatorytucson.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87:615-workout-of-the-day-and-hand-care&catid=2:wods
From reading stronglifts, I have a pretty bad case of pompholyx since I have a really bad case of eczema. I didn't realize it was caused by sweating.
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Okay cool. So any weight lifting glove recommendations? If they come in multiple colors so I can be stylin thats totally a plus.
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On June 17 2010 12:26 Andyl194 wrote:
Andy / Roadkill
Age: 19 || Height: 6'2 || Weight: 170 pounds
Starting Date: 4/1/10 || Goal Date: 8/16/10
Weight goals -- gain 10 pounds
Training goals -- be able to bench my own weight
Nutrition goals -- eat a lot of protein and get in good shape
Misc goals -- bench more than my buddy at school
on a serious note, I'm considering steroids, from what I hear, theyre not as bad as what the public is told I saw a documentary on them and it looks like a possible experiment... thoughts?
Don't use steroids.
Look in the OP and do Starting Strength and eat a crapton.
Your goals should be EASY to achieve at your weight. If you want to use at least first fixyour training, diet and sleep to optimal and work HARD. You will be surprised what you ca accomplish by doing this without steroid use.
On June 17 2010 12:21 Bosu wrote:
Uh. Girls don't like calluses. Pretty good reason not to have them. And no I really don't have any calluses. Maybe two areas on my hands are very slightly callused.
Shave the calluses down or scratch them off in the shower when they turn white. I use nail clippers sometimes.
Girls don't like calluses, eh? One would think girls would appreciate the hard work it takes to be physically fit, and have a nice body... but won't like that your hands are rough? I wonder how people did it in the olden days when they had to manual labor, eh?
I don't really buy this argument too much. Especially when you can shave your calluses down, and moisturize which makes them soft regardless.
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Okay. I guess thats a better response.
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To be honest, if you care that much about not getting calluses then don't bother lifting heavy.
btw did you even bother looking at the links I gave you?
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On June 17 2010 12:45 AoN.DimSum wrote:
To be honest, if you care that much about not getting calluses then don't bother lifting heavy.
btw did you even bother looking at the links I gave you?
Yes.
Is there something wrong with not wanting my hands to feel like sand paper? Fuck. Honestly the last few lines about Richard simmons and wearing a purse pretty much make the whole thing sound retarded. I definitely don't care if some dude thinks I am a sissy for wearing gloves. The other reasons not to use them may be valid. And I am sure I could go find articles in 2 minutes about why I should wear gloves as well. However, I will probably just llift without them for a while and see how it goes. Shave them down and moisturize them if necessary as the poster said above and see how that works out. I don't see anything manly about having rough callused hands, but if its safer and better to go without then I will continue to do so.
Still, if anyone does use gloves. Any recommendations?
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On June 17 2010 12:53 Bosu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2010 12:45 AoN.DimSum wrote:
To be honest, if you care that much about not getting calluses then don't bother lifting heavy.
btw did you even bother looking at the links I gave you? Yes. Is there something wrong with not wanting my hands to feel like sand paper? Fuck. Honestly the last few lines about Richard simmons and wearing a purse pretty much make the whole thing sound retarded. I definitely don't care if some dude thinks I am a sissy for wearing gloves. The other reasons not to use them may be valid. And I am sure I could go find articles in 2 minutes about why I should wear gloves as well. However, I will probably just llift without them for a while and see how it goes. Still, if anyone does use gloves. Any recommendations?
I only put the Rippletoe quote is because he is a respected coach. If you seen the other links, gloves hurt your form. If you take care of your hands, it won't feel like sandpaper. I lift 5 days a week and my hands are fine.
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On June 16 2010 02:21 Stormer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2010 01:19 travis wrote:
what's the problem with your attitude?
sounds like you already have an idea of your problems, I would keep at it and work on fixing those problems. Well I get lazy at times, so I stop working out for a week or 2. It's not really that much of a problem, I just think my body might already be adapted to doing the same exercises so it stops making gains. I'm still pretty much a noob regarding adaptation but since my gains have slowed I feel I might need to mix it up a bit. That's why I came here to ask about it cause I don't know if thats just normal, having plateaus here and there for a bit or if I need to switch up exercises/sets/reps Considering my attitude, the main problem is if i skip once I'll skip the whole week, but this stopped occuring and I'm pretty much regular now, usually 3x, rarely 2x gym visits a week.
Yes plateuas are normal. Get yourself motivated to get in the gym and something that should help a ton is CHANGE IT UP. When i'm trying to break through a plateau i'll switch from say 5x5 to 10 8 6 4 2, 5x10, etc. You should be able to snap through the plateau by keeping your workouts changing every 4 weeks or so. And a lot of it can be mental, it's great to have a spotter who can coach you through it. I had a friend who could rep 185 easy but couldn't get past 225 to save his life so next time he did it i spotted him and yelled at him n shit and he was able to get 225...then 245 after that. Find out what motivates you and use it to get past your mental barriers.
On June 17 2010 12:12 ghermination wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2010 12:07 Bosu wrote:
Anyone have any recommendations for weight lifting gloves? I just started lifting with a friend and he doesn't use any and his hands have some pretty nasty calluses on them. I definitely would like to prevent that as much as possible. My first question is: why do you care about calluses? they're your bodies natural defense mechanism against repeated skin abrasion. My second question is: do you not have calluses from your everyday life anyway? Any pair of gloves will work but make sure they aren't really slippery. Seriously though, the calluses you get are generally pretty big from lifts where you have a bar exerting pressure on your hand: bench press etc, but lat pulldowns are the worst. They will be really big right after you lift, but normally get smaller after a few hours.
Erm...if you're getting calluses from bench pressing, or any pressing motion in general you are doing something very very wrong. You get them from shit like deadlifts and pull ups
On June 17 2010 12:53 Bosu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2010 12:45 AoN.DimSum wrote:
To be honest, if you care that much about not getting calluses then don't bother lifting heavy.
btw did you even bother looking at the links I gave you? Yes. Is there something wrong with not wanting my hands to feel like sand paper? Fuck. Honestly the last few lines about Richard simmons and wearing a purse pretty much make the whole thing sound retarded. I definitely don't care if some dude thinks I am a sissy for wearing gloves. The other reasons not to use them may be valid. And I am sure I could go find articles in 2 minutes about why I should wear gloves as well. However, I will probably just llift without them for a while and see how it goes. Shave them down and moisturize them if necessary as the poster said above and see how that works out. I don't see anything manly about having rough callused hands, but if its safer and better to go without then I will continue to do so. Still, if anyone does use gloves. Any recommendations?
First off, all pulling motions should be done with the bar starting in your fingers not your actual palm which drastically reduced my callus formation.
Second, don't use gloves for all the above mentioned reasons
Third, my last girlfriend and most girls i meet don't mind calluses, and when they ask how i got them and i'm like "just picked up 400 pounds a few times SUP" its more of a turn on than turn off
Fourth, CHALK > everything. Just ordered some for the summer cant wait for it. Using chalk will significantly help your grip and reduce calluses. In the meantime till i get my chalk i've just been wrapping a piece of cloth from a torn up t-shirt around the bar which works fine.
Fifth, and totally unrelated to above glove talk, squat workout today was 10x200 8x295 6x315 4x345 2x370 2x395...One of my old middle school teachers was there cuz he coaches at the high school and was just like "wow...you used to be tiny and now you're just straight badass" lol makes me feel good when i see people i havent seen in a while and they're impressed with how much i've changed. Also, couldn't find my mp3 player and wow does music help me a lot. I was able to get through it all but when i listen to music i just zone in and blackout before i know it my reps are done ezpz. Will probably take it ez on the legs cuz i'm going to chicago for a rugby tournament this weekend, prob just do powercleans on friday and then its time to deadlift 410x2 on monday. closing in on the max out workouts cant wait to see what i can put up paowiejf
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The only girls I have met who actually mind calluses are too prissy for a LTR anyway...
Like I said, normally most girls will be appreciative that you're in shape, and are discipined (althoguh it's not really discipline  ) to lift weights/exercise
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first muscles will react regardless to an increase overload.
your goal is to always maximize the muscle stimulation and through nutrition you manipulate your fat sells , for the muscles to show.
2 kinds of hypetrophy yes , the latest research favors time under tention as a measurement over to classic rep count
you need 30 to 50 seconds for the optimal muscle gains , thats around 10-12 repetitions with a tempo of 3x1x1 - thus 3 seconds for the eccentric part (lowering ) , 0 to 1 sec pausing and 1 second to lift .
How much you bench with ur actuall chest size dont go hand to hand .
If it was the case powerlifters will be bigger than bodybuilders. Strength is a side effect when you train for hypetrophy and size when you train for strength .
If you dont wanna end up with pattern overload syndrome , forget smith and machines and use free weights or cables .
Now a newb to weight lifts will always have a hypetrophy no matter what hell do , for the intermidiate is another story .
Cardio trainning , treadmill and such are a joke srsly , you burn way too low calories plus ur body will adapt to it and burn even less in the process. It was good for jein fonda at the 80's suck for modern days .
You do plenty of "cardio " by lifting weights since ur heartbeat can spike up to 180 and such.
however if u like to run do split runs , like 200 meters run - 300 walk and so on , is much better for fat burn.
short sprints also are anabolic since they use atp anyway and they have a good effect on ur steroid hormones .
About sups , dont fall into the supplement hype most are usuless , , well protein is consider food , multivitamin depends from ur veggy intake , fish oils are must , bcaa you dont need them every modern protein is full in brand chain aminos anyway , creatine ... unless ur pro or vegan eater you dont need this, fatburners are a joke just drink a coffee b4 exerise etc.
Steroids do work wonders btw but unless ur 30+ , or a pro dont use them just for have a beach body , is lame imo but most do anyway .
As for nutrition
the best you can do is to rotate ur simple carb intake and have 4to 6 meals a day with lots of protein and vegetables and lots of water.
for example 3 days on to low carb 1 moderate and 1 refill works wonders.
Eat a lot of proteins , and good fats o3 especially since modern nutrition is full of o6s anyway and you dont want that
thats some short answers for natural guys under 30
some good sites
Tmuscle.com ( read older articles , the newest ones are overhyped seelling supplement ones )
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/category/blogy
http://www.simplyshredded.com/
ps for the guy that wants gloves , buy straps are much better cause you can isolate your lat training much better .
/more to come
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