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gaijindash Japan376 Posts September 17 2015 23:53 GMT #1 I'm curious. So because of where I am, I ping 130-170 to SEA, and at times I can't tell whether I'm personally slow, or if the lag just makes the game much harder to play. Keeping in mind that I play against Singaporeans who get literally 5ms. Playing on Australia is 200 or higher sometimes it feels almost impossible. How much lag is too much lag to handle for you guys? >150? >200? Do you think it's hero dependant? What heroes do you guys on high ping play? ZA players I'm looking at you

Verniy Canada3360 Posts September 18 2015 00:04 GMT #2 when i lag it's usually just my internet being shit, so it gets as high as 500-1000ms that shit's unplayable

Erasme Bahamas15899 Posts September 18 2015 00:41 GMT #3 above 130 makes some heroes/moves unplayable

ykl Malaysia541 Posts September 18 2015 01:20 GMT #4 Above certain pings, you just gotta strike out heroes from stuff you can play. Like, anything that requires precise timing (Dazzle), heavy button mashing (Tinker), multi-unit micro (Meepo) is right out of what you can do. I'd say the hard limit is like 200 ping on the more fiddly heroes. Some people might be more picky than that depending on how spoilt you are by low pings. I've played up to 400 ping before and it was still playable going with armlet and blink on Skeleton King. SA server gud server. On USE, I've played on 300-350 ping and tend to just pick supports. It usually doesn't backfire, I tend to feed no matter what ping I'm on anyway.

the bear jew United States3674 Posts September 18 2015 03:30 GMT #5 I sometimes play on EU East when I'm queued with a Russian friend and I live east coast US and I get 140 ping. That's noticeable, EU west which is 100 to 110 is the same I get for queuing on US West so that's perfectly playable for me. Techies is pretty good for high ping, just set things up and suicide when necessary.

evanthebouncy! United States12796 Posts September 18 2015 15:57 GMT #6 It depends on the hero and the items. When you're disjoining projectiles with a blink, say a sniper's ultimate at a range of 1000 away, you have half a second, or 500ms worth of time to work with. A delay of 300 ms makes it difficult to dodge re-actively, but you need to do some tricks such as starting to blink before the ult finish channeling.

Deleted User 261926 960 Posts September 18 2015 15:58 GMT #7 Sometimes I get 170 constant ping (not spikes) and it makes playing ember frustrating.

evanthebouncy! United States12796 Posts September 18 2015 15:58 GMT #8 On high ping just play spirit breaker. Charge and shift-queue in the nether strike and the urn. Pop bkb on the way. Then just simply pray to lord gaben.

TechSc2 Netherlands554 Posts September 18 2015 16:13 GMT #9 Anything over 110 for me i too much to play, regardless of hero. I am a bit spoiled with 5-10 ms on either EU server so never really played with too much ping

njt7 Sweden769 Posts September 18 2015 16:14 GMT #10 Playing with 200+ is to anoying for me. Anything under is doable with some games acclimation. The real problem arise when you have unstable ping that fluctuates with more then ~50ms. Tldr I'd rather have 150ms stable ping. Then 5ms that spikes to 100.

Sn0_Man Tebellong44238 Posts September 18 2015 16:18 GMT #11 Dunno, I usually get 70 to USW these days, and 130 to USE. Its a very noticeable difference although east is playable. I get 230 to EU which SERIOUSLY impedes play on most heroes. I do notice when playing on local server though.

dfs Russian Federation4050 Posts September 18 2015 22:03 GMT #12 Personally: Anything up to ~170 has no effect on gameplay but might need some getting used to anyway if you didn't play on it before. 150-250 is ok, but it's better to avoid playing puck (to be fair it's better to always avoid playing puck) and other micro intensive stuff. 250-400 CrystalWaifu is playable, if you channel your inner Garena player.

FranzF1 Chile1710 Posts September 18 2015 22:11 GMT #13 I always play with 180-230 ping and I think it's not that bad... When I play with 100 or less ms it's strange for me. I know im not a good player but still, sometimes you are owned by that delay. But, I dont play with proplayers so whatever.

Belisarius Australia6233 Posts September 19 2015 00:28 GMT #14 I struggle much above 100, but it doesn't help that my favourite heroes are things like puck/ember/rubick/weaver. Normal ping is about 70. Bristleback and spirit breaker all day if Valve pushes me overseas.

Stancel Singapore15360 Posts September 19 2015 06:01 GMT #15 as one of the Singaporeans who play with literally 5ms (sometimes I even get 4ms on CSGO servers) and played on US East/EU West, there's a huge difference between playing on 200-300 ping for the first time and having played many times on that ping timing dependent heroes like puck, lina, etc are harder to play, but you'll get used to the delay when you play more when everything else fails and you still miss your skillshots, blame your ping

lxginverse Monaco1506 Posts September 19 2015 10:38 GMT #16 any ping above 100 i cry T_T

goody153 44247 Posts September 19 2015 12:31 GMT #17 Always played around 60-200 in sea ,, whenever i decide to play USE/USW it's around 300 and above. Around 300 it's still actually playable dodging skillshots and making ones are harder and notably you feel it's delayed. The truly unplayable is around 400 above that shit is unbearable. If you are used to 100-150 pretty sure you could play heroes like even storm/puck/etc

mRpolite 189 Posts September 19 2015 12:36 GMT #18 On September 19 2015 19:38 lxginverse wrote: any ping above 100 i cry T_T exactly plus the 100 ms is only between you and the server, it does not take into consideration the lag between the mouse (well nowadays is 1 ms) and the pc and between the pc and the monitor. when you do tracking in a music studio (recording musician's performance) you need as little lag as possible. if the musician is really good a 5 ms delay between him plucking a string and hearing it in his headphones is way too much and disorienting. i guess what i wanted to say is that gaming (because of video rendering) has still some way to go before we see people playing in "real-time" and showing what they really got.

Fleetfeet Canada2682 Posts September 19 2015 19:02 GMT #19 I've got ~70 ping on USW and ~120 ping on USE, flipping between them is painful but USE is still totally playable after the adjustment period. I'd probably list the breakpoint at 150+ ping before it felt too awful to play.

babysimba 10466 Posts September 19 2015 19:50 GMT #20 Below 130 you can play anything. Slightly above that you might need to tweak your hero pool. I'm SG and we don't play on 5ms. Valve servers are fucking shit. Average 60 on good days. Spiking to 300-500 ms during peak hours is pretty common for me, fuck valve really :D Servers were perfect in the past.

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