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Lalalaland34491 Posts
On July 05 2012 21:11 EmilA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:36 CubEdIn wrote:On July 05 2012 20:18 EmilA wrote: Unrelated. Two of my friends lost a 1v4 game (his entire team left after 6-7 minutes) - anti mage solo won a 40 minute game. This was in high skill bracket as well. Not surprising. If you fuck about and give him a couple of kills, you add that up with the free gold he gets from team-mates who left, and he can roflstomp 2-3 people during bkb time alone. Then what? He didn't even make bkb. They had a tinker, though. Permahex+refresh ghost scepter should be plenty. Or just coordinated split pushing. I suppose you're talking about this game?
http://stats.dota2.be/match/24159946
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On July 05 2012 22:21 EchoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 22:11 Heh_ wrote:On July 05 2012 20:55 Dead9 wrote:On July 05 2012 20:35 Heh_ wrote:On July 05 2012 20:34 Dead9 wrote: but what if u already have phase boots and euls and jango and manta doesn't put u at max what then huh Pick up haste rune. Who the fuck needs permanent 522 movespeed lol. when is max movespeed bad man When you don't get proper items that your hero needs. I cant wait for nerub assasin to come out. Man, that shit is good.
LOL! NA = so much win... I think i had about 90% win rate whenever i played this dude.. XD
Oh: on topic flame: The new MM system sucks even harder balls... wtf is up with total noobs
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On July 05 2012 22:45 AbuseYouMerc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 22:21 EchoZ wrote:On July 05 2012 22:11 Heh_ wrote:On July 05 2012 20:55 Dead9 wrote:On July 05 2012 20:35 Heh_ wrote:On July 05 2012 20:34 Dead9 wrote: but what if u already have phase boots and euls and jango and manta doesn't put u at max what then huh Pick up haste rune. Who the fuck needs permanent 522 movespeed lol. when is max movespeed bad man When you don't get proper items that your hero needs. I cant wait for nerub assasin to come out. Man, that shit is good. LOL! NA = so much win... I think i had about 90% win rate whenever i played this dude.. XD Oh: on topic flame: The new MM system sucks even harder balls... wtf is up with total noobs  I didn't think it was too bad until I noticed in the last game I played my team, other than me, had about 20 wins put together, and the enemy had 100-150 each for the most part. I was not too pleased by that revelation.
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On July 05 2012 22:11 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:55 Dead9 wrote:On July 05 2012 20:35 Heh_ wrote:On July 05 2012 20:34 Dead9 wrote: but what if u already have phase boots and euls and jango and manta doesn't put u at max what then huh Pick up haste rune. Who the fuck needs permanent 522 movespeed lol. when is max movespeed bad man When you don't get proper items that your hero needs. phase+jango+euls+sny/manta works pretty well on a lot of heroes dp, invoker, enchant (need aghs tho), lina, etc even more if you skip euls razor, ck, sniper, etc the lists go on and on but i'll stop there
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On July 05 2012 22:28 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 21:11 EmilA wrote:On July 05 2012 20:36 CubEdIn wrote:On July 05 2012 20:18 EmilA wrote: Unrelated. Two of my friends lost a 1v4 game (his entire team left after 6-7 minutes) - anti mage solo won a 40 minute game. This was in high skill bracket as well. Not surprising. If you fuck about and give him a couple of kills, you add that up with the free gold he gets from team-mates who left, and he can roflstomp 2-3 people during bkb time alone. Then what? He didn't even make bkb. They had a tinker, though. Permahex+refresh ghost scepter should be plenty. Or just coordinated split pushing. I suppose you're talking about this game? http://stats.dota2.be/match/24159946
Exactly lol
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On July 05 2012 22:26 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 22:21 EchoZ wrote:On July 05 2012 22:11 Heh_ wrote:On July 05 2012 20:55 Dead9 wrote:On July 05 2012 20:35 Heh_ wrote:On July 05 2012 20:34 Dead9 wrote: but what if u already have phase boots and euls and jango and manta doesn't put u at max what then huh Pick up haste rune. Who the fuck needs permanent 522 movespeed lol. when is max movespeed bad man When you don't get proper items that your hero needs. I cant wait for nerub assasin to come out. Man, that shit is good. I'm actually waiting for techies.
I hope they don't port him at all. A non techie specialist randoms him --> 80 % chance of game lost ._.
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tinker vs 5 heart of tarrasque on the opposing side
fml
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So I'm going to QQ about dota streamers for a moment.
I'm really impressed by some of the play from dota pros. They have awesome awareness, pull off sick plays, and last hit amazingly. BUT, they seem to go on tilt SO easily. If one unlucky thing happens to them, they'll often start making really dumb/greedy decisions that just get them killed again and again. Plus they start making dumb excuses and blaming the game when they clearly made mistakes the average player would know to avoid.
I know they're just pub games so the pro's don't really care about the outcomes. But they get pretty angry about it nonetheless, which seems weird. And yes it can be frustrating when your teammates aren't great or you run into some bad luck, but I guess I expected pros to have more composure and put more effort into something that should be practice for their job. The thing is, I don't see pro SC2 streamers raging and going on tilt nearly as much as dota streamers.
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its because all pros think there are something special because they are good in a game. it was the same in war3. a 'nomal' person couldnt even speak with a semipro because they all thought they are some kind of super humans.
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On July 06 2012 07:14 castled wrote: So I'm going to QQ about dota streamers for a moment.
I'm really impressed by some of the play from dota pros. They have awesome awareness, pull off sick plays, and last hit amazingly. BUT, they seem to go on tilt SO easily. If one unlucky thing happens to them, they'll often start making really dumb/greedy decisions that just get them killed again and again. Plus they start making dumb excuses and blaming the game when they clearly made mistakes the average player would know to avoid.
I know they're just pub games so the pro's don't really care about the outcomes. But they get pretty angry about it nonetheless, which seems weird. And yes it can be frustrating when your teammates aren't great or you run into some bad luck, but I guess I expected pros to have more composure and put more effort into something that should be practice for their job. The thing is, I don't see pro SC2 streamers raging and going on tilt nearly as much as dota streamers. Pro sc2 streamers dont partially on others to win.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
And by partially you mean depend?
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On July 06 2012 07:52 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 07:14 castled wrote: So I'm going to QQ about dota streamers for a moment.
I'm really impressed by some of the play from dota pros. They have awesome awareness, pull off sick plays, and last hit amazingly. BUT, they seem to go on tilt SO easily. If one unlucky thing happens to them, they'll often start making really dumb/greedy decisions that just get them killed again and again. Plus they start making dumb excuses and blaming the game when they clearly made mistakes the average player would know to avoid.
I know they're just pub games so the pro's don't really care about the outcomes. But they get pretty angry about it nonetheless, which seems weird. And yes it can be frustrating when your teammates aren't great or you run into some bad luck, but I guess I expected pros to have more composure and put more effort into something that should be practice for their job. The thing is, I don't see pro SC2 streamers raging and going on tilt nearly as much as dota streamers. Pro sc2 streamers dont partially on others to win. Assuming you meant "depend" on others to win, yes this is true. However I actually find this makes Dota less rage-inducing personally. In SC2, you can only blame yourself, and the only way to win more is to put more effort into your whole game. Dota seems more chill to me, in that really you don't have to be focused on the game 100% of the time to play well, and you don't just have yourself to blame for losing.
Maybe it's just me but I actually feel worse blaming myself for losses than feeling that other people let down the team.
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Fuck match making so hard. I was high pre patch then put into low with a bunch of idiots and trash talkers I'm forced to play carry/mids every game to win finally get put into Medium mmr and go 12-5-17 as invoker and then I'm back in low with our carry getting a 30 minute battlefury....
Its fucking doing my head in.
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On July 06 2012 08:46 Benjef wrote: Fuck match making so hard. I was high pre patch then put into low with a bunch of idiots and trash talkers I'm forced to play carry/mids every game to win finally get put into Medium mmr and go 12-5-17 as invoker and then I'm back in low with our carry getting a 30 minute battlefury....
Its fucking doing my head in.
I don't think anything changed about your MMR. It's only a change on which parts of the matchmaking each rank covers, if before it was 33% low, 33% mid and 33% high, now it may be 70% normal 20% high and 10% very high, for example. That's what I've been hearing about it at least.
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On July 06 2012 08:59 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 08:46 Benjef wrote: Fuck match making so hard. I was high pre patch then put into low with a bunch of idiots and trash talkers I'm forced to play carry/mids every game to win finally get put into Medium mmr and go 12-5-17 as invoker and then I'm back in low with our carry getting a 30 minute battlefury....
Its fucking doing my head in. I don't think anything changed about your MMR. It's only a change on which parts of the matchmaking each rank covers, if before it was 33% low, 33% mid and 33% high, now it may be 70% normal 20% high and 10% very high, for example. That's what I've been hearing about it at least. Ugh but everyone I play with is suddenly sooooo much worse ><.
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On July 06 2012 01:57 EmilA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 22:26 Heh_ wrote:On July 05 2012 22:21 EchoZ wrote:On July 05 2012 22:11 Heh_ wrote:On July 05 2012 20:55 Dead9 wrote:On July 05 2012 20:35 Heh_ wrote:On July 05 2012 20:34 Dead9 wrote: but what if u already have phase boots and euls and jango and manta doesn't put u at max what then huh Pick up haste rune. Who the fuck needs permanent 522 movespeed lol. when is max movespeed bad man When you don't get proper items that your hero needs. I cant wait for nerub assasin to come out. Man, that shit is good. I'm actually waiting for techies. I hope they don't port him at all. A non techie specialist randoms him --> 80 % chance of game lost ._. That is true... I've seen all kinds of fail techies: stuck at lvl7 after 30 minutes, mass suicide, planting mines in front of the enemy... the list goes on.
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Please dont bring techies ever.It s pub ruiner.You cant even move around map if you dont have gem in average pub game.I hate him so much.
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On July 06 2012 10:54 Silentenigma wrote: Please dont bring techies ever.It s pub ruiner.You cant even move around map if you dont have gem in average pub game.I hate him so much. Isn't that the idea?
Actually that's a pretty noob style. Techies is a crazy pusher, and you can't gank him because there's traps everywhere.
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"Hey, new Dota2 player, to practice you should play with bots! And if you're just trying to learn the heroes and how to farm, don't bother with co-op bot games, just play with bots on your team so you won't bug anyone!"
If any of you have ever gotten that advice, don't follow it. And if you've given that advice, stop. Practicing against bots is fine but never ever play with them and assume they'll do anything but feed. In the hope of staying positive I'm taking it as a sign that I should exclusively start playing real games now. I'm 1-0 against real people. Guess it's time to change that.
[BOTS ARE SO FRUSTRATING!]
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I dislike it when opposing team purposely picks:
Nighstalker Lycan Nature's Prophet
I also dislike it when my team purposely picks:
Anti-mage Sniper Drow Ranger
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