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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
July 05 2012 13:28 GMT
#1381
On July 05 2012 21:11 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:36 CubEdIn wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:18 EmilA wrote:
Unrelated. Two of my friends lost a 1v4 game (his entire team left after 6-7 minutes) - anti mage solo won a 40 minute game. This was in high skill bracket as well.

Not surprising. If you fuck about and give him a couple of kills, you add that up with the free gold he gets from team-mates who left, and he can roflstomp 2-3 people during bkb time alone. Then what?


He didn't even make bkb. They had a tinker, though. Permahex+refresh ghost scepter should be plenty. Or just coordinated split pushing.

I suppose you're talking about this game?

http://stats.dota2.be/match/24159946
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AbuseYouMerc
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands171 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 13:45:57
July 05 2012 13:45 GMT
#1382
On July 05 2012 22:21 EchoZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:11 Heh_ wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:55 Dead9 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:35 Heh_ wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 Dead9 wrote:
but what if u already have phase boots and euls and jango and manta doesn't put u at max
what then huh

Pick up haste rune.

Who the fuck needs permanent 522 movespeed lol.

when is max movespeed bad man

When you don't get proper items that your hero needs.


I cant wait for nerub assasin to come out. Man, that shit is good.



LOL! NA = so much win... I think i had about 90% win rate whenever i played this dude.. XD

Oh: on topic flame: The new MM system sucks even harder balls... wtf is up with total noobs
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
July 05 2012 14:51 GMT
#1383
On July 05 2012 22:45 AbuseYouMerc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:21 EchoZ wrote:
On July 05 2012 22:11 Heh_ wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:55 Dead9 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:35 Heh_ wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 Dead9 wrote:
but what if u already have phase boots and euls and jango and manta doesn't put u at max
what then huh

Pick up haste rune.

Who the fuck needs permanent 522 movespeed lol.

when is max movespeed bad man

When you don't get proper items that your hero needs.


I cant wait for nerub assasin to come out. Man, that shit is good.



LOL! NA = so much win... I think i had about 90% win rate whenever i played this dude.. XD

Oh: on topic flame: The new MM system sucks even harder balls... wtf is up with total noobs

I didn't think it was too bad until I noticed in the last game I played my team, other than me, had about 20 wins put together, and the enemy had 100-150 each for the most part.
I was not too pleased by that revelation.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
July 05 2012 16:15 GMT
#1384
On July 05 2012 22:11 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:55 Dead9 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:35 Heh_ wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 Dead9 wrote:
but what if u already have phase boots and euls and jango and manta doesn't put u at max
what then huh

Pick up haste rune.

Who the fuck needs permanent 522 movespeed lol.

when is max movespeed bad man

When you don't get proper items that your hero needs.

phase+jango+euls+sny/manta works pretty well on a lot of heroes
dp, invoker, enchant (need aghs tho), lina, etc
even more if you skip euls
razor, ck, sniper, etc
the lists go on and on but i'll stop there
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 05 2012 16:56 GMT
#1385
On July 05 2012 22:28 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 21:11 EmilA wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:36 CubEdIn wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:18 EmilA wrote:
Unrelated. Two of my friends lost a 1v4 game (his entire team left after 6-7 minutes) - anti mage solo won a 40 minute game. This was in high skill bracket as well.

Not surprising. If you fuck about and give him a couple of kills, you add that up with the free gold he gets from team-mates who left, and he can roflstomp 2-3 people during bkb time alone. Then what?


He didn't even make bkb. They had a tinker, though. Permahex+refresh ghost scepter should be plenty. Or just coordinated split pushing.

I suppose you're talking about this game?

http://stats.dota2.be/match/24159946


Exactly lol
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 05 2012 16:57 GMT
#1386
On July 05 2012 22:26 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:21 EchoZ wrote:
On July 05 2012 22:11 Heh_ wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:55 Dead9 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:35 Heh_ wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 Dead9 wrote:
but what if u already have phase boots and euls and jango and manta doesn't put u at max
what then huh

Pick up haste rune.

Who the fuck needs permanent 522 movespeed lol.

when is max movespeed bad man

When you don't get proper items that your hero needs.


I cant wait for nerub assasin to come out. Man, that shit is good.

I'm actually waiting for techies.


I hope they don't port him at all. A non techie specialist randoms him --> 80 % chance of game lost ._.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
July 05 2012 17:20 GMT
#1387
tinker vs 5 heart of tarrasque on the opposing side

fml
castled
Profile Joined March 2011
United States322 Posts
July 05 2012 22:14 GMT
#1388
So I'm going to QQ about dota streamers for a moment.

I'm really impressed by some of the play from dota pros. They have awesome awareness, pull off sick plays, and last hit amazingly. BUT, they seem to go on tilt SO easily. If one unlucky thing happens to them, they'll often start making really dumb/greedy decisions that just get them killed again and again. Plus they start making dumb excuses and blaming the game when they clearly made mistakes the average player would know to avoid.

I know they're just pub games so the pro's don't really care about the outcomes. But they get pretty angry about it nonetheless, which seems weird. And yes it can be frustrating when your teammates aren't great or you run into some bad luck, but I guess I expected pros to have more composure and put more effort into something that should be practice for their job. The thing is, I don't see pro SC2 streamers raging and going on tilt nearly as much as dota streamers.
Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
July 05 2012 22:40 GMT
#1389
its because all pros think there are something special because they are good in a game. it was the same in war3.
a 'nomal' person couldnt even speak with a semipro because they all thought they are some kind of super humans.
SDMF
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
July 05 2012 22:52 GMT
#1390
On July 06 2012 07:14 castled wrote:
So I'm going to QQ about dota streamers for a moment.

I'm really impressed by some of the play from dota pros. They have awesome awareness, pull off sick plays, and last hit amazingly. BUT, they seem to go on tilt SO easily. If one unlucky thing happens to them, they'll often start making really dumb/greedy decisions that just get them killed again and again. Plus they start making dumb excuses and blaming the game when they clearly made mistakes the average player would know to avoid.

I know they're just pub games so the pro's don't really care about the outcomes. But they get pretty angry about it nonetheless, which seems weird. And yes it can be frustrating when your teammates aren't great or you run into some bad luck, but I guess I expected pros to have more composure and put more effort into something that should be practice for their job. The thing is, I don't see pro SC2 streamers raging and going on tilt nearly as much as dota streamers.

Pro sc2 streamers dont partially on others to win.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
July 05 2012 23:00 GMT
#1391
And by partially you mean depend?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
castled
Profile Joined March 2011
United States322 Posts
July 05 2012 23:41 GMT
#1392
On July 06 2012 07:52 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:14 castled wrote:
So I'm going to QQ about dota streamers for a moment.

I'm really impressed by some of the play from dota pros. They have awesome awareness, pull off sick plays, and last hit amazingly. BUT, they seem to go on tilt SO easily. If one unlucky thing happens to them, they'll often start making really dumb/greedy decisions that just get them killed again and again. Plus they start making dumb excuses and blaming the game when they clearly made mistakes the average player would know to avoid.

I know they're just pub games so the pro's don't really care about the outcomes. But they get pretty angry about it nonetheless, which seems weird. And yes it can be frustrating when your teammates aren't great or you run into some bad luck, but I guess I expected pros to have more composure and put more effort into something that should be practice for their job. The thing is, I don't see pro SC2 streamers raging and going on tilt nearly as much as dota streamers.

Pro sc2 streamers dont partially on others to win.

Assuming you meant "depend" on others to win, yes this is true. However I actually find this makes Dota less rage-inducing personally. In SC2, you can only blame yourself, and the only way to win more is to put more effort into your whole game. Dota seems more chill to me, in that really you don't have to be focused on the game 100% of the time to play well, and you don't just have yourself to blame for losing.

Maybe it's just me but I actually feel worse blaming myself for losses than feeling that other people let down the team.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
July 05 2012 23:46 GMT
#1393
Fuck match making so hard. I was high pre patch then put into low with a bunch of idiots and trash talkers I'm forced to play carry/mids every game to win finally get put into Medium mmr and go 12-5-17 as invoker and then I'm back in low with our carry getting a 30 minute battlefury....

Its fucking doing my head in.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 05 2012 23:59 GMT
#1394
On July 06 2012 08:46 Benjef wrote:
Fuck match making so hard. I was high pre patch then put into low with a bunch of idiots and trash talkers I'm forced to play carry/mids every game to win finally get put into Medium mmr and go 12-5-17 as invoker and then I'm back in low with our carry getting a 30 minute battlefury....

Its fucking doing my head in.


I don't think anything changed about your MMR. It's only a change on which parts of the matchmaking each rank covers, if before it was 33% low, 33% mid and 33% high, now it may be 70% normal 20% high and 10% very high, for example. That's what I've been hearing about it at least.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
July 06 2012 00:13 GMT
#1395
On July 06 2012 08:59 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:46 Benjef wrote:
Fuck match making so hard. I was high pre patch then put into low with a bunch of idiots and trash talkers I'm forced to play carry/mids every game to win finally get put into Medium mmr and go 12-5-17 as invoker and then I'm back in low with our carry getting a 30 minute battlefury....

Its fucking doing my head in.


I don't think anything changed about your MMR. It's only a change on which parts of the matchmaking each rank covers, if before it was 33% low, 33% mid and 33% high, now it may be 70% normal 20% high and 10% very high, for example. That's what I've been hearing about it at least.

Ugh but everyone I play with is suddenly sooooo much worse ><.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 06 2012 00:21 GMT
#1396
On July 06 2012 01:57 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:26 Heh_ wrote:
On July 05 2012 22:21 EchoZ wrote:
On July 05 2012 22:11 Heh_ wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:55 Dead9 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:35 Heh_ wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 Dead9 wrote:
but what if u already have phase boots and euls and jango and manta doesn't put u at max
what then huh

Pick up haste rune.

Who the fuck needs permanent 522 movespeed lol.

when is max movespeed bad man

When you don't get proper items that your hero needs.


I cant wait for nerub assasin to come out. Man, that shit is good.

I'm actually waiting for techies.


I hope they don't port him at all. A non techie specialist randoms him --> 80 % chance of game lost ._.

That is true... I've seen all kinds of fail techies: stuck at lvl7 after 30 minutes, mass suicide, planting mines in front of the enemy... the list goes on.
=Þ
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
July 06 2012 01:54 GMT
#1397
Please dont bring techies ever.It s pub ruiner.You cant even move around map if you dont have gem in average pub game.I hate him so much.
日本語が上手ですね
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 06 2012 02:57 GMT
#1398
On July 06 2012 10:54 Silentenigma wrote:
Please dont bring techies ever.It s pub ruiner.You cant even move around map if you dont have gem in average pub game.I hate him so much.

Isn't that the idea?

Actually that's a pretty noob style. Techies is a crazy pusher, and you can't gank him because there's traps everywhere.
=Þ
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
July 06 2012 04:55 GMT
#1399
"Hey, new Dota2 player, to practice you should play with bots! And if you're just trying to learn the heroes and how to farm, don't bother with co-op bot games, just play with bots on your team so you won't bug anyone!"

If any of you have ever gotten that advice, don't follow it. And if you've given that advice, stop. Practicing against bots is fine but never ever play with them and assume they'll do anything but feed. In the hope of staying positive I'm taking it as a sign that I should exclusively start playing real games now. I'm 1-0 against real people. Guess it's time to change that.

[BOTS ARE SO FRUSTRATING!]
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
July 06 2012 05:35 GMT
#1400
I dislike it when opposing team purposely picks:

Nighstalker
Lycan
Nature's Prophet

I also dislike it when my team purposely picks:

Anti-mage
Sniper
Drow Ranger
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